They're getting ready for something

[lordofangels]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vu7m_ZOxM9o/RYHDfuYuPZI/AAAAAAAAAKo/l7HtTfNCcx8/DSC04907.JPG
There getting ready for something, two of these Unmanned Predator Drones(or the uk's equivelent) flying with their distinctive low buzz sound over NorthEast England at 0645 this morning.

[cruise4]

Yes... that must be what I heard yesterday night. I wondered what on earth it was and went outside and couldn't see anything, but it sounded like a small plane and really buzzy motor and took a while to fly over. This was Powys area.

[angeldust]

we had a similar thing in the south west last week a Chinook was flying quite close to the house (although we live next to a navy training base) but it was at 12 45 in the morning??) very loud.

[informationx]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vu7m_ZOxM9o/RYHDfuYuPZI/AAAAAAAAAKo/l7HtTfNCcx8/DSC04907.JPG
There getting ready for something, two of these Unmanned Predator Drones(or the uk's equivelent) flying with their distinctive low buzz sound over NorthEast England at 0645 this morning.

Check out this story

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/29/politics.usa

[lordofangels]

Informationx thanks for that,Very interesting, i thought it was quite rare to see these over uk not been that close to an airforce base, but it all makes sense now, its either practice runs or dummy runs, either way somethings happening and happening soon. Unless there spying on the uk population with these(a bit pricey mind).
Has anyone else seen Predators over Uk?

[informationx]

Informationx thanks for that,Very interesting, i thought it was quite rare to see these over uk not been that close to an airforce base, but it all makes sense now, its either practice runs or dummy runs, either way somethings happening and happening soon. Unless there spying on the uk population with these(a bit pricey mind).
Has anyone else seen Predators over Uk?

More here lordofangels


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/11/uk_imports_israeli_spy_drones/

[lilavati]

sorry are you talking about birds or airoplanes?:confused:

[duckingdafta]

I'm in north east and there is an unusual amount of flyovers today... and without chemtrails too... I keep hearing the jets fly over my house, but have only managed to actually see one...as though the rest are invisible.!!!.

[krakhead]

sorry are you talking about birds or airoplanes?:confused:

Follow the links..................

[marpat]

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_vu7m_ZOxM9o/RYHDfuYuPZI/AAAAAAAAAKo/l7HtTfNCcx8/DSC04907.JPG
There getting ready for something, two of these Unmanned Predator Drones(or the uk's equivelent) flying with their distinctive low buzz sound over NorthEast England at 0645 this morning.

Where exactly though? could be just a training exercise or people being taught how to sue these aircraft.

Why does there have to be something going on? did you actually see these aircraft?

[marpat]

I'm in north east and there is an unusual amount of flyovers today... and without chemtrails too... I keep hearing the jets fly over my house, but have only managed to actually see one...as though the rest are invisible.!!!.

The fact that a number of military flying stations exist in the north east would explain this.

As flying and training does not happen at a constant rate due to weather and other factors there will be peaks and troughs in aircraft activity.

[marpat]

we had a similar thing in the south west last week a Chinook was flying quite close to the house (although we live next to a navy training base) but it was at 12 45 in the morning??) very loud.

Night training does happen. It is not unusual for navy aircraft to use RAF bases so why would there be anything odd the other way round?

[marpat]

Informationx thanks for that,Very interesting, i thought it was quite rare to see these over uk not been that close to an airforce base, but it all makes sense now, its either practice runs or dummy runs, either way somethings happening and happening soon. Unless there spying on the uk population with these(a bit pricey mind).
Has anyone else seen Predators over Uk?

That sort of method would be absolutely pointless for spying on a population due to costs, etc.

[duckingdafta]

The fact that a number of military flying stations exist in the north east would explain this.

As flying and training does not happen at a constant rate due to weather and other factors there will be peaks and troughs in aircraft activity.

you're totally wrong... for one training exercises happen often around here in all weathers and at all times upto 3am.. yes there are a lot of bases around here, along with a lot of high security prisons too... but all exercises are published when training, the only ones that aren't advertised are the transports that take place.. and we are now getting heavy artillery getting flown around... this you can tell with the type of craft used..

[duckingdafta]

Where exactly though? could be just a training exercise or people being taught how to sue these aircraft.

Why does there have to be something going on? did you actually see these aircraft?

sue them or use them??.. is this just a typo?...
and are you working for the military making sure info doesn't get out... so cynical, without evidence all anyone can do is speculate, yet you have answers..how does that work?

[marpat]

you're totally wrong... for one training exercises happen often around here in all weathers and at all times upto 3am.. yes there are a lot of bases around here, along with a lot of high security prisons too... but all exercises are published when training, the only ones that aren't advertised are the transports that take place.. and we are now getting heavy artillery getting flown around... this you can tell with the type of craft used..

The fact is just because they don't publish every little detail of what they are doing this does not mean that something is going on.

So you say they are flying artillery about. Firstly if it is within an aircraft then how do you know it's artillery? transport planes can carry a wide variety of assets so it could be anything. If it under a helicopter then so what, they carry it like that. What aircraft was it then?

[marpat]

sue them or use them??.. is this just a typo?...
and are you working for the military making sure info doesn't get out... so cynical, without evidence all anyone can do is speculate, yet you have answers..how does that work?

That is a typo.

The fact is that you are speculating without any real evidence. A few flights here and there proves nothing.

How can I ensure answers don't get out by going onto a forum? if it was a perfectly innocent exercise there will be people would still believe something was going on.

[steevo]

The fact is just because they don't publish every little detail of what they are doing this does not mean that something is going on.

So you say they are flying artillery about. Firstly if it is within an aircraft then how do you know it's artillery? transport planes can carry a wide variety of assets so it could be anything. If it under a helicopter then so what, they carry it like that. What aircraft was it then?

Are you just here to try TO CONVINCE US that we dont know what we are talking about ? WHY ARE YOU ON THIS FORUM MARPAT ?

[marpat]

Are you just here to try TO CONVINCE US that we dont know what we are talking about ? WHY ARE YOU ON THIS FORUM MARPAT ?


Not at all. I think it is best to eliminate the obvious answers first then look at other things. The problem in this forum is that people go straight into conspiracy mode without looking at answers that are often right in front of them.

If somebody states that you can tell artillery is being flown around and you can tell by the aircraft then I would be interested in hearing what the aircraft is.

Do I need your permission to post in here? I think it is improper of you ask why I am here in such a rude manner.

[steevo]

Not at all. I think it is best to eliminate the obvious answers first then look at other things. The problem in this forum is that people go straight into conspiracy mode without looking at answers that are often right in front of them.

If somebody states that you can tell artillery is being flown around and you can tell by the aircraft then I would be interested in hearing what the aircraft is.

But why are you so concerned about what WE think ? You have already mentioned in lots of threads that you believe in the current "system" that we have at the moment so get ON with it and live your life stop WASTING your time on here. WHY are you here ? YOU will not convince us of any of that BULLSHIT that you talk. Are you PAID to try to make us think differently ? If not, then go and live your life, why waste your time here ????? :confused::confused::confused:

[marpat]

But why are you so concerned about what WE think ? You have already mentioned in lots of threads that you believe in the current "system" that we have at the moment so get ON with it and live your life stop WASTING your time on here. WHY are you here ? YOU will not convince us of any of that BULLSHIT that you talk. Are you PAID to try to make us think differently ? If not, then go and live your life, why waste your time here ????? :confused::confused::confused:

No need to be negative. This is a forum and the idea of a forum is to exchange views, not all believe the same thing. I don't care what you think or believe as that is up to you, not me.

Do you think that my life is being wasted in here? you think this place is a waste of time?

Why is it that when people disagree they get accused of being paid to come in here? that is really paranoid and a little childish really.

I am not trying to convince you of anything, merely point out that there could be pretty innocent answers to what people claim to see in this thread.

It seems obvious to me that you don't believe in freedom of speech and expression. When you say 'US' do you speak for the others? have you appointed yourself as their spokesperson

[steevo]

No need to be negative. This is a forum and the idea of a forum is to exchange views, not all believe the same thing. I don't care what you think or believe as that is up to you, not me.

Do you think that my life is being wasted in here? you think this place is a waste of time?

Why is it that when people disagree they get accused of being paid to come in here? that is really paranoid and a little childish really.

I am not trying to convince you of anything, merely point out that there could be pretty innocent answers to what people claim to see in this thread.

It seems obvious to me that you don't believe in freedom of speech and expression.

You are literally wasting your time here yes. Unless you can explain to me what it is you are doing here. It appears to me that you spend tons of time on here in the company of people who dont really want to talk to you. I believe in free speech and that is why I'm on this forum. I want to discuss how we can stop the NWO who wish to silence anyone who speaks out. You are not on here to SPEAK OUT are you, you are here TO CONVINCE US not to speak out and to feel that we incorrect in our thinking. YOU COWPAT do NOT ever speak out against the system because you are part of it and wish to remain part of it even if it mean the destruction of everyone and everything around you including your family (and friends which I'm sure you have none). YOU are very naive to believe taht when "they" have finished with you that they are gonna let you live a nice life separate to people like me. You Cowpat are NOTHING to them and you know it deep down. The money that you are paid is PEANUTS and your love for money/power (of which you have virtually NONE I'm sure) is gonna make you deeply unhappy because you are a loser who is gonna switch sides when the going gets tough. Any of us on here could do what you do but we choose not to be manipulated into whoring ourselves.

[Mo0n5tar]

Could be something to do with this?
http://www.fco.gov.uk/resources/en/pdf/pdf4/fco_cm5539_openskies

I had a peruse and glad I did as now I am aware that:

The Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation group of States Parties shall have the right to conduct three observation flights over the territory of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and four observation flights
over the territory of the United States of America;

[marpat]

You are literally wasting your time here yes. Unless you can explain to me what it is you are doing here. It appears to me that you spend tons of time on here in the company of people who dont really want to talk to you. I believe in free speech and that is why I'm on this forum. I want to discuss how we can stop the NWO who wish to silence anyone who speaks out. You are not on here to SPEAK OUT are you, you are here TO CONVINCE US not to speak out and to feel that we incorrect in our thinking. YOU COWPART do NOT ever speak out against the system because you are part of it and wish to remain part of it even if it mean the destruction of everyone and everything around you including your family (and friends which I'm sure you have none). YOU are very naive to believe taht when "they" have finished with you that they are gonna let you live a nice life separate to people like me. You Cowpat are NOTHING to them and you know it deep down. The money that you are paid is PEANUTS and you love for money/power (of which you have virtually NONE I'm sure) is gonna make you deeply unhappy because you are a loser who is gonna switch sides when the going gets tough. Any of us on here could do what you do but we choose not to be manipulated into whoring ourselves.

So why do I need to explain myself here? hark at you, dictating how I should behave in a public forum.

I probably get paid more than you.

Like I said I am not trying to convince you of anything. Look at my posts do I say, 'this is the truth, believe this!!!!' or do I just put forward simple explanations so that people can decide for themselves?

[steevo]

i Probably Get Paid More Than You.


That Says It All !! :D

[marpat]

Could be something to do with this?
http://www.fco.gov.uk/resources/en/pdf/pdf4/fco_cm5539_openskies

I had a peruse and glad I did as now I am aware that:

We are obliged to let these countries have some access so that they can see if we are infringing some of the nuclear treaties we signed as a result of the cold war.

[marpat]

That Says It All !! :D


Well if I am on peanuts then you have a real problem, but this forum is not about me nor about how much we get paid so why don't you get back on topic and argue some real points.

I like how you actually altered the text

[cruise4]

Re. Increased Activity.... Yes I think there's been more stuff going over in general over the last week.

If you ignore someone do their posts within threads disappear?

[marpat]

Re. Increased Activity.... Yes I think there's been more stuff going over in general over the last week.

If you ignore someone do their posts within threads disappear?

If you set somebody to ignore the posts remain, you just cant see them yourself. Only an admin can delete posts and it needs a good reason, not just that fact that people disagree with you.

[informationx]

I think marpat has eminently reasonable points, and so does the original poster of the thread. What ever the truth its interesting to see one of these deadly machines operating over civilian airspace.

[marpat]

I think marpat has eminently reasonable points, and so does the original poster of the thread. What ever the truth its interesting to see one of these deadly machines operating over civilian airspace.

The are not all deadly. Some of them only carry sensors. I think all of the armed ones would be needed abroad at the moment.

[duckingdafta]

That is a typo.

The fact is that you are speculating without any real evidence. A few flights here and there proves nothing.

How can I ensure answers don't get out by going onto a forum? if it was a perfectly innocent exercise there will be people would still believe something was going on.

you start the statement off with The Fact!.. and yet there aren't any... and I do work in the military and have a good idea what it used to carry what... and you can also tell on how the vehicle is handling depending on the type as to what it MAY be carrying... I am admittedly speculating whilst you claim to have the truths.. and there isn't ANY 'perfectly innocent exercises' as you put it,.. victims are innocent not the causes...a little thinking before putting brain into engage might not go amiss

[informationx]

The are not all deadly. Some of them only carry sensors. I think all of the armed ones would be needed abroad at the moment.

Yes it was a figure of speech lol.

[marpat]

you start the statement off with The Fact!.. and yet there aren't any... and I do work in the military and have a good idea what it used to carry what... and you can also tell on how the vehicle is handling depending on the type as to what it MAY be carrying... I am admittedly speculating whilst you claim to have the truths.. and there isn't ANY 'perfectly innocent exercises' as you put it,.. victims are innocent not the causes...a little thinking before putting brain into engage might not go amiss


For a military person you display attitudes that should be considered subversive. I think you are lying. If you really are military then you are really ignorant of military activity.

Do you get victims in exercises? perhaps you need to engage your brain before posting. I would have thought victims are the result of wars myself.

So what aircraft did you see? you fail to mention it.

[steevo]

Marpat, didnt we have a discussion before about you using the word "FACT" all the time when in fact your facts arent facts at all are they.

[marpat]

Marpat, didnt we have a discussion before about you using the word "FACT" all the time when in fact your facts arent facts at all are they.

I think you are just confused and have nothing to contribute. By all means try posting something pertinant to the thread otherwise it will get boring.

I did say that it is a fact that people are speculating though.

[duckingdafta]

For a military person you display attitudes that should be considered subversive. I think you are lying. If you really are military then you are really ignorant of military activity.

Do you get victims in exercises? perhaps you need to engage your brain before posting. I would have thought victims are the result of wars myself.

So what aircraft did you see? you fail to mention it.

you really haven't a clue have you...so because of this I Am Lying!!.. seems weird logic, but if it works for you...good luck!.. I suppose you'd want name, rank, number to prove anything as if you were worthy of proving anything to, get off the high and mighty of knowing all and accept you don't... none of us do and we all speculate, yes, even those whom are members of the armed forces do as to what our orders might be for..this unfortunately doesn't make all not follow orders..in fact, it makes you follow them to the letter in case you get it wrong....ignorance and not telling the truth are different things..learn this.

[jack5]

Nothing new here folks!US have had this type of drone aircraft since the 1950s.Read the chapter in David Ickes new book entitled the miracle factory.Global conspiracy pulls together in short chapters all of Ickes work over the last 20 odd years.

[sharpiesix]

Sure its not just the google earth lads taking photos or something. Why does everything have to be sinister? I'm not paranoid but I know you all think I am.
Maybe I'll eat my words tho :confused:

[marpat]

you really haven't a clue have you...so because of this I Am Lying!!.. seems weird logic, but if it works for you...good luck!.. I suppose you'd want name, rank, number to prove anything as if you were worthy of proving anything to, get off the high and mighty of knowing all and accept you don't... none of us do and we all speculate, yes, even those whom are members of the armed forces do as to what our orders might be for..this unfortunately doesn't make all not follow orders..in fact, it makes you follow them to the letter in case you get it wrong....ignorance and not telling the truth are different things..learn this.

The fact is that I am in the forces so I do have some idea.

[truthseeker1980]

The fact is that I am in the forces so I do have some idea.

Has Marpat just dropped a big one there, I have thought you were on their books for quite sometime and you have just let the cat out of the bag.

You seem to be on here far to much to be in the forces, unless of course the forces you are employed by are Mi5 or similar spying or monitoring MoD offices.

You have posted more than me and iam civillian in a not so pressured job and I dont even have the time to post as much as you.

Marpat just exposed himself, hahahaha.

[boots]

The fact is that I am in the forces so I do have some idea.

Your a paid dis info agent and you come into all the threads and derail them as you have done with this one.

I thought there was something in the guidelines against trolling threads off topic.

You have been outed yet again.

It amazes me how you keep getting away with it.

DON'T BOTHER POSTING ANY OF YOUR BULLSHIT ANSWERS.

[truthseeker1980]

He cant get out of that one anyway.

heh:D

[lookfar]

Guys can we please try to remain on topic here or else I'm gonna have to move this to rant. Cheers:)

[truthseeker1980]

Sorry.

Anyway, yes I noticed two Chinooks flying over North London this week, so it seems they are training or mobilising for something, but after the last two weeks acceleration by tptb with taking our civil liberties away, i wasn't suprised, I reckon we are going to see a lot more over the next few months leading up to when Bush doesn't resign.

[lookfar]

Sorry.

Anyway, yes I noticed two Chinooks flying over North London this week, so it seems they are training or mobilising for something, but after the last two weeks acceleration by tptb with taking our civil liberties away, i wasn't suprised, I reckon we are going to see a lot more over the next few months leading up to when Bush doesn't resign.

Thanks hun:)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4411/kisssmoochun9.gif

[informationx]

Thanks hun:)
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/4411/kisssmoochun9.gif

I have AH-64's, and Chinooks flying my way on quite a regular basis. I need a decent cam to get some footage of them.

I know where they are based, and its easy to see why they fly this way from the base location etc.

[eyepod]

Sorry.

Anyway, yes I noticed two Chinooks flying over North London this week, so it seems they are training or mobilising for something, but after the last two weeks acceleration by tptb with taking our civil liberties away, i wasn't suprised, I reckon we are going to see a lot more over the next few months leading up to when Bush doesn't resign.

I wouldn't necessarily assume seeing the Chinooks means too much. Usually everyday I see 1 or 2 of them fly towards central London along the river Thames (been doing it at least since last summer). They come back of an evening time. Helicopters seem to use the Thames as a flight path into London presumably in case they have to ditch. You see quite abit of military helicopter activity up and down the river and civilian stuff.

[duckingdafta]

well I stand corrected, even though I too have some IDEA.. that's all it is..speculative ideas, I never realized that you were an dis info agent for some org. & privy to insider information...so maybe all you say ARE facts.
either that or some 12 yr old snotty nosed kid on his dads PC making out he has read a book once on SAS survival techniques.
would be nice to get some insider info form more than those following orders so if you're higher up the ladder, this is a truth site, tell us some! and help us stop speculating as to what some peoples plans are...can you fly a C-5 or a C-17.

Chinook are common over here, but when there's a few & escorted by planes it looks more like an air show..which is also common at this time of year, I still have my suspicions there is more happening as it's not just the armed forces acting weird in this area, also the police and councils seem to be up to something..

[boots]

They might use the Thames as a fight path. Sure. What would be interesting is are the flights around London increasing?


IMO, this is part of a Phys-op's to get people used to seeing military personnel and aircraft as a everyday occurrence for bringing in marshal law?

[marpat]

Has Marpat just dropped a big one there, I have thought you were on their books for quite sometime and you have just let the cat out of the bag.

You seem to be on here far to much to be in the forces, unless of course the forces you are employed by are Mi5 or similar spying or monitoring MoD offices.

You have posted more than me and iam civillian in a not so pressured job and I dont even have the time to post as much as you.

Marpat just exposed himself, hahahaha.

Actually I have admitted it openly in other threads so it's hardly me exposing myself.

Bit sad that instead of debating the topic you try and make out that I am in here for some suspicious reason. I think you are too paranoid.

[marpat]

Your a paid dis info agent and you come into all the threads and derail them as you have done with this one.

I thought there was something in the guidelines against trolling threads off topic.

You have been outed yet again.

It amazes me how you keep getting away with it.

DON'T BOTHER POSTING ANY OF YOUR BULLSHIT ANSWERS.

Outed again? please explain as that sounds ridiculous.

I think you will find that I was not the person taking the thread off tpoic, I was just asking for details of what people saw as well as giving suggestions to what may be happening.

Do you really think people would be paid to come into a place like this and spread dis-info? I think people use that far to much to attack people who just have different ideas. It also makes you feel that you must be onto something if people are trying to lead you away from the topic, which I was not doing. Maybe you should stop watching the x-files and applying the script to this forum.

What do I get away with? maybe nothing has happened because I am doing nothing wrong. Can you comprehend that?

So are you going to get back on topic boots or do you have nothing to contribute again?

[marpat]

Sorry.

Anyway, yes I noticed two Chinooks flying over North London this week, so it seems they are training or mobilising for something, but after the last two weeks acceleration by tptb with taking our civil liberties away, i wasn't suprised, I reckon we are going to see a lot more over the next few months leading up to when Bush doesn't resign.


Why should it be significant that chinooks fly over London?

It could be just a training flight or just flying practice, or anything for that matter.

[the seeker]

I live about 30 miles from an Air Force base (U.S.) and I occasionally see military planes, almost always at night. I know a guy who is in the National Guard and he goes there regularly for training flights in refueling tankers (really large planes). I can't imagine what one would find sinister in this, unless the idea of the military is sinister to you in general. They are always "getting ready for something."

[marpat]

well I stand corrected, even though I too have some IDEA.. that's all it is..speculative ideas, I never realized that you were an dis info agent for some org. & privy to insider information...so maybe all you say ARE facts.
either that or some 12 yr old snotty nosed kid on his dads PC making out he has read a book once on SAS survival techniques.
would be nice to get some insider info form more than those following orders so if you're higher up the ladder, this is a truth site, tell us some! and help us stop speculating as to what some peoples plans are...can you fly a C-5 or a C-17.

Chinook are common over here, but when there's a few & escorted by planes it looks more like an air show..which is also common at this time of year, I still have my suspicions there is more happening as it's not just the armed forces acting weird in this area, also the police and councils seem to be up to something..


I seriously doubt you are in the forces purely because of what you post. If the forces are up to something wierd then why don't you leave? we all have that option.

This is a truth site? this is a forum where people debate ideas. You don't get much truth in here but you do get lots of speculation and paranoia.

Not the dis-info acusation again. Why is it that when people don't agree with all the paranoid ideas that get expressed, or have their own ideas and experience that contradicts those conspiracy theories, that they are accused of dis-info?

[marpat]

I live about 30 miles from an Air Force base (U.S.) and I occasionally see military planes, almost always at night. I know a guy who is in the National Guard and he goes there regularly for training flights in refueling tankers (really large planes). I can't imagine what one would find sinister in this, unless the idea of the military is sinister to you in general. They are always "getting ready for something."


Right on the money there!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[marpat]

They might use the Thames as a fight path. Sure. What would be interesting is are the flights around London increasing?


IMO, this is part of a Phys-op's to get people used to seeing military personnel and aircraft as a everyday occurrence for bringing in marshal law?

I respect your right to an opinion but what you state there is rubbish. If they stopped flying you would be saying that there is something wierd going on because nobody is flying.

The reality is that flight plans will not be the same all the time. There will be aircraft flying at various times so you are going to get times when there is more activity just because thats the way it is.

[lost_in_translation]

WOW cant we all just get along in here. I realize some people in here want to be heard but to what extent. fighting. finger pointing, name calling. is this how the enlightend population gets ready. its same way my daughter gets ready for life while attending kindergarten. the problem with the main population is they dont care about our theories. because we have so many of them on the same subject. just go online and google something like 2012. or 911. and you will see evidence until you go mad. he is right.. no she is right.. no im right. who is right.

for those who want to shut down other people in here for pointing out facts about the threads even if it goes in a diff direction than someones beliefs I ask why. NO ONE IN HERE KNOWS IT ALL.. facts are facts. and when facts are being overlooked then we are not doing our job. even if the facts point another way. we are here to learn from each other. but all I see is arguing when people disagree. then name calling. and then someone gets called "The Man" more name calling and secrete agent stuff. wow wake up.. if we cant get it together then how can we expect to free someone elses mind. man.. other than that i luv all yall.
and dont be to concerened with fly overs. unless they stop in your yard or beam you up..lol.. the military conducts training . thats what they do. is it a good thing or a bad thing.. well i think its just a thing. but ill prob be called a paid agent working for project X now that i said that. you should be more worried about the things you dont see or hear.

[duckingdafta]

I seriously doubt you are in the forces purely because of what you post. If the forces are up to something wierd then why don't you leave? we all have that option.

This is a truth site? this is a forum where people debate ideas. You don't get much truth in here but you do get lots of speculation and paranoia.

Not the dis-info acusation again. Why is it that when people don't agree with all the paranoid ideas that get expressed, or have their own ideas and experience that contradicts those conspiracy theories, that they are accused of dis-info?

so this time you only doubt is were as last time I was a lying.. seems you are correct in stating the paranoia, but hey, you'll get over it one day....btw, are you on home leave or a civvy?... read what I wrote, I said and I do work in the military, I didn't say I was a soldier and since when did you have the option to just LEAVE the forces.. when did that rule apply?

unless you're talking about either AWOL or 'The Unknown Soldier' Theory.
growing up may help you, it's not the disagreeing with the subject that seems the problem, it's your attitude in assuming your right all else are wrong and at the same time call people you don't know liars...get over yourself and please stop trying to disrupt a thread which may turn out interesting.

[marpat]

so this time you only doubt is were as last time I was a lying.. seems you are correct in stating the paranoia, but hey, you'll get over it one day....btw, are you on home leave or a civvy?

You don't make much sense do you and instead of staying on topic you just fire petty posts in my direction. I guess you have nothing to add to the thread then.

Did I not say before that I was in the forces? you must be confused, but yes I have took a few days off.

You can easily apply to leave now and are not bound to the years you sign up for and you don't have to pay to leave. I know that because I am in, whereas you are obviously unaware of because you are not in.

[nessa felagund]

WOW cant we all just get along in here. I realize some people in here want to be heard but to what extent. fighting. finger pointing, name calling. is this how the enlightend population gets ready. its same way my daughter gets ready for life while attending kindergarten. the problem with the main population is they dont care about our theories. because we have so many of them on the same subject. just go online and google something like 2012. or 911. and you will see evidence until you go mad. he is right.. no she is right.. no im right. who is right.

for those who want to shut down other people in here for pointing out facts about the threads even if it goes in a diff direction than someones beliefs I ask why. NO ONE IN HERE KNOWS IT ALL.. facts are facts. and when facts are being overlooked then we are not doing our job. even if the facts point another way. we are here to learn from each other. but all I see is arguing when people disagree. then name calling. and then someone gets called "The Man" more name calling and secrete agent stuff. wow wake up.. if we cant get it together then how can we expect to free someone elses mind. man.. other than that i luv all yall.
and dont be to concerened with fly overs. unless they stop in your yard or beam you up..lol.. the military conducts training . thats what they do. is it a good thing or a bad thing.. well i think its just a thing. but ill prob be called a paid agent working for project X now that i said that. you should be more worried about the things you dont see or hear.

In case you weren't listening--

good post lost in translation :)

[duckingdafta]

You don't make much sense do you and instead of staying on topic you just fire petty posts in my direction. I guess you have nothing to add to the thread then.

Did I not say before that I was in the forces? you must be confused, but yes I have took a few days off.

You can easily apply to leave now and are not bound to the years you sign up for and you don't have to pay to leave. I know that because I am in, whereas you are obviously unaware of because you are not in.

will you just over yourself as the all high and mighty know it all..haven't you realized yo accuse others of what you are suffering from. {you didn't say apply to leave you said 'you could just leave'...like you would in any normal working environment}.. and exactly what have you added to this thread as you seem so eager to pass the shit caused onto others!.

[marpat]

will you just over yourself as the all high and mighty know it all..haven't you realized yo accuse others of what you are suffering from. {you didn't say apply to leave you said 'you could just leave'...like you would in any normal working environment}.. and exactly what have you added to this thread as you seem so eager to pass the shit caused onto others!.

Er, if you look back I was just sharing my opinions but certain people didn't like what I was saying.

Are you going to get back on topic?

[Ian2day]

What is the date again of the election Icke is going to stand in? I feel that something very BIG is being planned by them. It could all be fear induced from paranoia. I just have this nagging doubt that the Icke election is a part of a false flag attack by tptb. Near to me in September of last year there was a lot of activity taking place.

[Ian2day]

There is something up. It could all be paranoid delusions as a consequence of what has been done to me. Even false memories being triggered with physical cues and words or phrases said to me. So as to discredit the real true information I have.

The way I feel is that I need and have to go around shouting out that there is to be a massive false flag attack at the moment. Maybe even in several places at the same time in the UK. Hence why the elite have moved to Austrailia. Now what would cause them to want to move to Aus.

This could all just be scaremongering on my part. Which leads me to believe that it is false information my head has been filled with. So that any thing I say is discredited.

The link below is to cross reference two threads. Which may very well be related in tptb desired outcome for us here in the UK.

http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=394377&posted=1#post394377

[jimmi]

didn't the Mayan calendar recently shift up a gear? Fuel....excuse to practice quick shutdown to us? Food....the shelves round here aren't kept as well stocked as they used to be. Lucifer Project....nuke Saturn July(7?) and turn it into a star????? U.F.O. sightings jumping through the roof.....are the neighbours gonna show up at last? They are definitely getting ready for something.....WE've got to be ready for anything and everything!

[saab1981]

I have noticed these aswell. I live in the north east UK countryside, and i spotted a craft shaped like a coke can making a 45 degree descent into the sky. I looked away to put something down, and about 5 seconds later when i looked up, it had vanished. There was not a single cloud in the sky at the time, not one. This is all very mysterious, like it was cloaked in invisibility. I have seen dozens of bizarre shaped planes, at all hours of the day, every day of the week, and on random flight paths. I have even had dreams of weird planes in the sky. Something is up, it really is. The words manhatten project and blue beam keep cropping up in my mind too, like flashing in lights.

[ownedtbh]

i have to agree with marpat here just because theres a few military craft flying around doesnt mean something big is about to happen altho i could be wrong. but yes there is alot of paranoia on this forum i remember i posted a thread about a flood in my road last month and people started accusing me of faking them and stuff abit ridiculous really.

[diamondgeezer]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/6676809.stm

^Thread reminded me of this news article from a year or so ago, Merseyside police's new 'pilotless cctv drone'. The link has a good pic of the nasty thing.

[frosty]

have a look at this link and you will see the spy planes that are flying over us:Dhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan-turnbull/cia-rendition.htm

[marpat]

have a look at this link and you will see the spy planes that are flying over us:Dhttp://homepage.ntlworld.com/alan-turnbull/cia-rendition.htm


I don't think this relates to the original post. How do you know those aircraft are doing rendition flights or that they belong to the CIA? US aircraft might use that base anyway if they are taking people to London for any reason.

[frosty]

Marpet the original post was about military planes etc flying over us. My link is merely a link to a reputable website that shows planes that are used for spying from an airport that has been accused of being used for extrordinary rendition. This is entirely relevant in my opinion. :)

All you seem to do is try to stir up people and turn a post into a "rant", maybe this is what you want;)

You are the person that is taking things off topic, not me. Go and have a "chota peg".;)

[frosty]

How do you know those aircraft are doing rendition flights or that they belong to the CIA? US aircraft might use that base anyway if they are taking people to London for any reason.

where did I say that?:confused:

[marpat]

where did I say that?:confused:

Oh sorry that is what I thought the link referred to, after all it is about rendition flights. If you don't know what is in your link then maybe you shouldn't use it.

[marpat]

Marpet the original post was about military planes etc flying over us. My link is merely a link to a reputable website that shows planes that are used for spying from an airport that has been accused of being used for extrordinary rendition. This is entirely relevant in my opinion. :)

All you seem to do is try to stir up people and turn a post into a "rant", maybe this is what you want;)

You are the person that is taking things off topic, not me. Go and have a "chota peg".;)

Grow up will you. Since when is it wrong to have your own thoughts on anything.

I didn't realise that was a reputable website.

Who are you to tell people how to behave in here, you are not a moderator, just another user. The reality is that if people start ranting just because they disagree with my views then that is the issue. If you read the full thread perhaps you would see this.

Don't forget you are in a forum, a place in which ideas can be debated. It is not a place of enforced belief where everybody has to hold the same ideas and this is why things turn into rants, because people do not want to hear other peoples ideas if they disagree.

[frosty]

marpat."Oh sorry that is what I thought the link referred to.

Apology accepted

[frosty]

Marpit "If you don't know what is in your link then maybe you shouldn't use it".

I know exactly what it says and explains, you didn't

[frosty]

Grow up will you. Since when is it wrong to have your own thoughts on anything.

I didn't realise that was a reputable website.

Who are you to tell people how to behave in here, you are not a moderator, just another user. The reality is that if people start ranting just because they disagree with my views then that is the issue. If you read the full thread perhaps you would see this.

Don't forget you are in a forum, a place in which ideas can be debated. It is not a place of enforced belief where everybody has to hold the same ideas and this is why things turn into rants, because people do not want to hear other peoples ideas if they disagree.

arhhh his crying

[frosty]

I didn't realise that was a reputable website.


Some comments about the site.
What the experts said about "www.secret-bases.co.uk"


An intelligent and innocuous guide to using the web resources already online ...
... you've used them better than others I've seen – well done!
(June 2004)

Duncan Campbell – Author, Investigative Journalist and TV Producer: IPTV Limited


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A very interesting and useful compilation ...
... it does not add to the danger to national security.
(February 2004)

You are republishing open source material already widely in the public domain and not
therefore increasing the danger to sensitive sites. These sites should already not only
be aware of what is public, but also have taken security measures accordingly.
(September 2004)

Rear Admiral Nick Wilkinson – Secretary (1999-2004): Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory (D-Notice) Committee


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I've always been very supportive of your website ...
... I have no intention of writing anything against it.
(June 2004)

We need websites like this, if only to test the pronouncements
that come out of Whitehall about 'open government'.
(September 2004)

Nick Fielding – Author on Intelligence & Terrorism issues and former Senior Investigative Journalist at The Sunday Times


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A thoroughly well-researched website ...
... a near one-stop solution for researchers and students alike.
(December 2004)

Mark Birdsall – Managing Editor: Eye Spy Publishing Limited


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Your 'Secret Base' site is an excellent example of what can be achieved
by painstaking, forensic research of what is available from open sources
and the Internet. Whatever might be deemed to be 'sensitive' has usually been
known to the 'opposition' for years and it is only the general public who are
denied their 'right to know' by officious, blinkered, low-level bureaucrats.
(January 2005)

Glenmore S. Trenear-Harvey – Intelligence Analyst: Sky News TV


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Your website contains a vast amount of first class, eye-opening information,
based on original research. It's an exemplary example of how forensic analysis of
open source data can produce powerful results. I admire your investigative prowess
and wish you well in further testing the boundaries of 'freedom of information'.
(May 2005)

Neil Doyle – Investigative Journalist and Author: "Terror Tracker" and "Terror Base UK"

I have no wish to stop you [or anyone in fact] from debating anything, however; your latin quotes, avatar and general posts[that I have read], lead me to believe that your sole intention is to wind people up, it is you who needs to "grow up" and start putting something decent into a debate, not just your snide comments.

[marpat]

Some comments about the site.
What the experts said about "www.secret-bases.co.uk"


An intelligent and innocuous guide to using the web resources already online ...
... you've used them better than others I've seen – well done!
(June 2004)

Duncan Campbell – Author, Investigative Journalist and TV Producer: IPTV Limited


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A very interesting and useful compilation ...
... it does not add to the danger to national security.
(February 2004)

You are republishing open source material already widely in the public domain and not
therefore increasing the danger to sensitive sites. These sites should already not only
be aware of what is public, but also have taken security measures accordingly.
(September 2004)

Rear Admiral Nick Wilkinson – Secretary (1999-2004): Defence, Press and Broadcasting Advisory (D-Notice) Committee


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I've always been very supportive of your website ...
... I have no intention of writing anything against it.
(June 2004)

We need websites like this, if only to test the pronouncements
that come out of Whitehall about 'open government'.
(September 2004)

Nick Fielding – Author on Intelligence & Terrorism issues and former Senior Investigative Journalist at The Sunday Times


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

A thoroughly well-researched website ...
... a near one-stop solution for researchers and students alike.
(December 2004)

Mark Birdsall – Managing Editor: Eye Spy Publishing Limited


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your 'Secret Base' site is an excellent example of what can be achieved
by painstaking, forensic research of what is available from open sources
and the Internet. Whatever might be deemed to be 'sensitive' has usually been
known to the 'opposition' for years and it is only the general public who are
denied their 'right to know' by officious, blinkered, low-level bureaucrats.
(January 2005)

Glenmore S. Trenear-Harvey – Intelligence Analyst: Sky News TV


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Your website contains a vast amount of first class, eye-opening information,
based on original research. It's an exemplary example of how forensic analysis of
open source data can produce powerful results. I admire your investigative prowess
and wish you well in further testing the boundaries of 'freedom of information'.
(May 2005)

Neil Doyle – Investigative Journalist and Author: "Terror Tracker" and "Terror Base UK"

I have no wish to stop you [or anyone in fact] from debating anything, however; your latin quotes, avatar and general posts[that I have read], lead me to believe that your sole intention is to wind people up, it is you who needs to "grow up" and start putting something decent into a debate, not just your snide comments.


So you dictate what quotes I use and what avatar I like? who are you to judge me? the irony is that you come into this thread claiming I am winding people up when it is you who have chosen to get personal.

Perhaps you should just focus on the topic instead of moaning about my profile. I gave my opinions before, you don't have to like them.

For somebody who doesn't want to get in the way of debate you sure seem keen in keeping off the subject.

[neil]

They might use the Thames as a fight path. Sure. What would be interesting is are the flights around London increasing?


IMO, this is part of a Phys-op's to get people used to seeing military personnel and aircraft as a everyday occurrence for bringing in marshal law?

I see what you mean. But people living in certain parts of the country with busy airbases will see military flights, often low-flying, many times daily, and will have done so since WW2.

Nothing new here except the technology.

But something is certainly up.

We're at war and we're being exposed to massive economic meltdown, the cure for which is... more war. Meanwhile, the enemies of freedom are touted as climate change (formerly 'global warming': anyone remember that?), terrorism (the only thing new about which is that our lot aren't entirely in control of it. Or are they? Given collusion in Northern Ireland and elsewhere, who knows?) and whatever else it is this week.

Keep watching the skies, by all means. But perhaps good to also broaden our view a bit.

[frosty]

So you dictate what quotes I use and what avatar I like? who are you to judge me? the irony is that you come into this thread claiming I am winding people up when it is you who have chosen to get personal.

Perhaps you should just focus on the topic instead of moaning about my profile. I gave my opinions before, you don't have to like them.

For somebody who doesn't want to get in the way of debate you sure seem keen in keeping off the subject.

change the record:rolleyes:

[edit]

http://www.davidicke.com/:cool:All times are GMT -7. The time now is 04:04 PM.

[the itinerant shrubber]

Cant hold back any longer... It's "They're" not There; as in " They're up to something".

[lookfar]

Cant hold back any longer... It's "They're" not There; as in " They're up to something".

Lol, it was bugging me too so I'll edit the title:)

[duckingdafta]

change the record :rolleyes:

you'll get into trouble for actually causing this shite and ruining threads... it's a trick used often by dis informants; 'pass the buck', I was also a victim ...seems you can be insulted and abused but NOT allowed to defend yourself and call the person back as this makes you into a liar or troll...bow out gracefully would be my advice...there seems to be an agenda on this site to discredit any number of posts by a select few...just because of not agreeing

It's a shame about this thread, would have been good to share so opinions as to what MIGHT be happening...

[krakhead]

Lol, it was bugging me too so I'll edit the title:)

Thank fuck for that! It was winding me up a treat!! ;)

[lordofangels]

i think the tread is more important than the spelling, sorry for my error.could someone please edit this if i spelt something wrong

[duckingdafta]

along with the suspicion of these flights and activities taking place, consider the lack of chemtrails the last few weeks in some areas usually covered with them and certain websites with info disappearing and altered {bluebeam!} and political unrest.. weird weather events, all seems ingredients for anarchy and confusion on a mass scale.. the grid seems to be falling upon us and getting prepared for a switch on... though I have been reading some weird books lately.. this won't help with clear thought as I'm finding most fiction books aren't exactly that fictional.