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loderlive
18-06-2008, 10:58 AM
Can someone please justify to me why my cats have to kill birds? Whats the difference between the killing of a human in war and that of a bird in nature.....
mondo23
18-06-2008, 11:14 AM
Can someone please justify to me why my cats have to kill birds? Whats the difference between the killing of a human in war and that of a bird in nature.....
Are you serious?
Im pretty certain it has to do with instinct to survive rather than cold blooded murder.
Nature can be ugly....in our eyes.
loderlive
18-06-2008, 11:20 AM
Are you serious?
Im pretty certain it has to do with instinct to survive rather than cold blooded murder.
Nature can be ugly....in our eyes.
Some would argue war is an instinct to survival and a domesticated pet has no need to kill.
boots
18-06-2008, 11:21 AM
It distresses me when I see that my cats have killed a bird or mouse.
Just the other day the tabby had a little bird in its mouth (still alive) so I chased and caught her opened up her mouth and took the bird away nursed it for a bit and it flew away alive and well.
I've done this with with mice as well. So it made me think that they were not truly hungry but were operating on instinct. There nature to survive.
But with us humans we dont need to eat other humans, and I've never seen another cat chowing down on another cat.
I dont think humans really want to kill other humans, only that the PTB have condition people to think that way, by appealing to the reptilian part of the brain and a inbuilt desire to follow a leader.
loderlive
18-06-2008, 11:25 AM
It distresses me when I see that my cats have killed a bird or mouse.
Just the other day the tabby had a little bird in its mouth (still alive) so I chased and caught her opened up her mouth and took the bird away nursed it for a bit and it flew away alive and well.
lol i did initially but now it's too many, i can see a couple in the garden which made me think.
loderlive
18-06-2008, 11:26 AM
It distresses me when I see that my cats have killed a bird or mouse.
Just the other day the tabby had a little bird in its mouth (still alive) so I chased and caught her opened up her mouth and took the bird away nursed it for a bit and it flew away alive and well.
I've done this with with mice as well. So it made me think that they were not truly hungry but were operating on instinct. There nature to survive.
But with us humans we dont need to eat other humans, and I've never seen another cat chowing down on another cat.
I dont think humans really want to kill other humans, only that the PTB have condition people to think that way, by appealing to the reptilian part of the brain and a inbuilt desire to follow a leader.
I agree with us humans it's a result of conditioning not instinct, so I should not be so hard on my cats.
mondo23
18-06-2008, 11:34 AM
Dont be hard on your cats if they kill something but dont praise them either. Theyre not bringing you a present or trying to teach you how to hunt, they are just following an old programme that they no longer need. Most cats dont seem to follow through with the killing and they just toy with their pray leaving you with an injured mouse running around or a distressed bird stuck in your lampshade.
I watched Bill Oddy on Springwatch last night and he was talking about cats and their hunting habits and how theyre actually not that good at it anymore.
Bless Bill...I love his love for nature..:)
jimmi
18-06-2008, 11:39 AM
I was once told (by an impeccably reliable source down the pub) that cats were the devil's attempt to make his own version of us godproduced humans, when he saw the result of his labour (an ugly scrawny little thing) he covered it with fur to hide the evidence of his labour.
I now,through experience, know this to be the absolute truth.
mercuryrapids
18-06-2008, 11:39 AM
When the moggies start cluster bombing your back garden is when you need to start worrying...
boots
18-06-2008, 11:40 AM
I agree with us humans it's a result of conditioning not instinct, so I should not be so hard on my cats.
No we should be hard on them. They can't help it it's up to us to try and restrict there outdoor movements, as best as we can.
There smarter than us humans, we fall for the bull, when we have "self directed awareness" and animals dont.
lottie
18-06-2008, 11:41 AM
Its a programme...the 'nature programme'.....but at least animals dont 'murder' each other like we do!! :)
jimmi
18-06-2008, 11:49 AM
I used to believe that cats were the only creatures, apart from us humans, that killed for pleasure, then I saw the film of the killer whales playing happy slap with seals. I wonder how many more species have members who behave that way?