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[beldazar]

thanks reicdubay, I will do that when I get a bit more of a positive feeling. I signed up to a local forum and it got a bit heavy there, Im still reeling from it.
So glad you guys are here.......:)

[devanshoom]

i just watched the eric dubay video.....excellent. i would like to download it and add it to my collection......burn burn burn....then distribute. But i can only download stuff from you tube.

[frankanne]

Is it the Esoteric Agenda Video?

If so, you can find it on youtube

Just go to the youtube site and in the seach box type in 'esoteric agenda'.

[devanshoom]

yes it was the esoteric one......its quite good in the sense that it covers much of what Icke does, including the more spiritual side of things, but has way more visuals than david icke seminars and talk. This kind of thing is better suited to holding the attention of people with short attention spans....such as me. Its a movie.

yeah i will grab that while its still there....youtube I mean. gotta hand it to youtube really...they have some white hot material on there. I would hazard a guess they are not owned by ruport murdoch. Perhaps we could do something to show appreciation to the manging director of youtube. Like knock him up a t-shirt and on the front emblazened the words "alex collier rocks" or something

[nugget]

Last friday I had a chat with Rik on facebook again... conversation took up most of the afternoon.

Obviously as it was chat over the net I cant be 100% sure it was him. Although he seemed 'genuine'.

I said I wouldnt pass on the full details of what happened to him, but it does seem he was in a bad way. A situation which messed his head up a bit... and if true then I can fully understand.

He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him. He did say he had much more info to put out there, so hopefully I can get him to pass some of this stuff on.

He also said the reason he didnt post on the forum was because it had already blown up on here and thought that nobody would belive him even if he did explain.

We talked about Crop circles, Music, Ayaushca... Alsorts.

Dont get me wrong, im still skeptical as I am with everything. But the conversation did clear a few things up for me.

hmmm who knows. I will see if he wants to chat on the phone at some point so we can be sure.

Anyway... I have put parts 1 & 2 of his redice interview on my blog for those who have not heard it yet.
http://justinstephens.info

:)

[ericdubay]

I said I wouldnt pass on the full details of what happened to him, but it does seem he was in a bad way. A situation which messed his head up a bit... and if true then I can fully understand. He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him.


Can you pass on any more details than this about the situation? And if not, can you say why you can't pass on more details? Thanks

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

[nugget]

Well he just asked me not to. Thats the only reason why.
To be fair if it was me id probably say to put peoples minds at rest. But its his private life so ill respect that.
Like I said I cant be 100% sure its him.... but it very well could be, so I have to respect that I guess.

I can only be sure once I have had a vocal chat with him.... If he will chat that is.

....also, he said hes been occasionally reading this thread. So he knows whats being said.

hmm makes it sound even more suss now :S

[qasrose]

What's his facebook then? if you really had a conversation with him?

[nugget]

Mate please! You think im making stuff up now?

I dont know what you mean by 'whats his facebook' but just lookup his name up there if you want to add him. As he did to add me.

[jojo]

Last friday I had a chat with Rik on facebook again... conversation took up most of the afternoon.

Obviously as it was chat over the net I cant be 100% sure it was him. Although he seemed 'genuine'.

I said I wouldnt pass on the full details of what happened to him, but it does seem he was in a bad way. A situation which messed his head up a bit... and if true then I can fully understand.

He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him. He did say he had much more info to put out there, so hopefully I can get him to pass some of this stuff on.

He also said the reason he didnt post on the forum was because it had already blown up on here and thought that nobody would belive him even if he did explain.

We talked about Crop circles, Music, Ayaushca... Alsorts.

Dont get me wrong, im still skeptical as I am with everything. But the conversation did clear a few things up for me.

hmmm who knows. I will see if he wants to chat on the phone at some point so we can be sure.

Anyway... I have put parts 1 & 2 of his redice interview on my blog for those who have not heard it yet.
http://justinstephens.info

:)

well that understandable. If as you put it "He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him" It messes with all our heads at times, this info. Lets face it there are threads on here about "Knowledge ruined my life" etc.

So if what you say is true then I want to wish rik a speedy return to good health with a intact conection to what he has learned. I wish you good physical health and excellent mental health. In truth I send rik love in whatever state he may be.

glad to hear he has other things to say... waiting with baited breath

[frankanne]

Last friday I had a chat with Rik on facebook again... conversation took up most of the afternoon.

Obviously as it was chat over the net I cant be 100% sure it was him. Although he seemed 'genuine'.

I said I wouldnt pass on the full details of what happened to him, but it does seem he was in a bad way. A situation which messed his head up a bit... and if true then I can fully understand.

He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him. He did say he had much more info to put out there, so hopefully I can get him to pass some of this stuff on.

He also said the reason he didnt post on the forum was because it had already blown up on here and thought that nobody would belive him even if he did explain.

We talked about Crop circles, Music, Ayaushca... Alsorts.

Dont get me wrong, im still skeptical as I am with everything. But the conversation did clear a few things up for me.

hmmm who knows. I will see if he wants to chat on the phone at some point so we can be sure.

Anyway... I have put parts 1 & 2 of his redice interview on my blog for those who have not heard it yet.
http://justinstephens.info

:)

Thanks for that justin. I wish Rik all the best and sending healing thoughts his way.

[qasrose]

Mate please! You think im making stuff up now?

I dont know what you mean by 'whats his facebook' but just lookup his name up there if you want to add him. As he did to add me.

I do not think your making stuff up, If he watch's this thread, don't you think he would have contacted us lot to say he was alright?.

I don't believe that it's Rik replying to your messages, He might seem reliable yes but did you know anyone can create a profile and pretend to be someone else??. I was only asking for his face book. And why would he just respond to your questions? Can you not just post the full facebook address or send me a pm so I can check it out?. Again I wasn't saying you where making anything up mate. I was just asking. :D

Hope you have a good day mate, Be Well :)

[americana]

I do not think your making stuff up, If he watch's this thread, don't you think he would have contacted us lot to say he was alright?.

I don't believe that it's Rik replying to your messages, He might seem reliable yes but did you know anyone can create a profile and pretend to be someone else??. I was only asking for his face book. And why would he just respond to your questions? Can you not just post the full facebook address or send me a pm so I can check it out?. Again I wasn't saying you where making anything up mate. I was just asking. :D

Hope you have a good day mate, Be Well :)


In essence, though, if Rik continues his blog himself, he has a certain style of writing. If you study very closely how he writes, you will know. And you will sense if it's someone pretending to be Rik.

[seeker1111]

I do not think your making stuff up, If he watch's this thread, don't you think he would have contacted us lot to say he was alright?.

I don't believe that it's Rik replying to your messages, He might seem reliable yes but did you know anyone can create a profile and pretend to be someone else??. I was only asking for his face book. And why would he just respond to your questions? Can you not just post the full facebook address or send me a pm so I can check it out?. Again I wasn't saying you where making anything up mate. I was just asking. :D

Hope you have a good day mate, Be Well :)

You can just type in Rik Clay on facebook, there's only two of them there and one of them isn't him :D

[qasrose]

You can just type in Rik Clay on facebook, there's only two of them there and one of them isn't him :D

Thanks man, I'll check that out. Peace :D

[nugget]

Yeh I understand that anyone can just create a profile on facebook. But the fact its full of friends/messages etc shows that it is/was his account.

He or whoever is watching this forum as I was added on facebook. I was messaged about the info on my blog, which my name and blog address can only have been seen on here as I dont post on any other forums regarding this stuff.

[qasrose]

Yeh I understand that anyone can just create a profile on facebook. But the fact its full of friends/messages etc shows that it is/was his account.

He or whoever is watching this forum as I was added on facebook. I was messaged about the info on my blog, which my name and blog address can only have been seen on here as I dont post on any other forums regarding this stuff.

:D cool man, I've added him, hope he adds me :).

[jojo]

Any more news on Rik?

[romas]

This whole deal is really weird, has anyone actually talked to him face to face?

[simplify]

This whole deal is really weird, has anyone actually talked to him face to face?

I have had a bad feeling about Rik right from the beginning. Something is not right here....can anyone do remote viewing.....maybe we could zero in to see if he is still alive? Or a fantastic psychic who could try to hone in on him using a picture.....its worth a try..........also is there any way to check with the office where deaths are recorded to see if he shows up there. I guess I'm thinking if someone is dead, what records would show that????? Has anyone thought to do a search to see where his parents are or other family members....one has to play the detective on this one:cool:

[jock1056]

[QUOTE=nugget;447431]Mate please! You think im making stuff up now?

I do.

[frankanne]

I have had a bad feeling about Rik right from the beginning. Something is not right here....can anyone do remote viewing.....maybe we could zero in to see if he is still alive? Or a fantastic psychic who could try to hone in on him using a picture.....its worth a try..........also is there any way to check with the office where deaths are recorded to see if he shows up there. I guess I'm thinking if someone is dead, what records would show that????? Has anyone thought to do a search to see where his parents are or other family members....one has to play the detective on this one:cool:

Rik has a CV online with two addressess. I have written to both asking Rik to please come on the David Icke Forum and let us know he is well. I've sent him a private message from this forum and I've actually phoned him. If you look back on this thread, it is all there.

Whenever I've suggested getting the police involved, there have been 'friends' of Riks who have posted, saying he doesn't want to be disturbed, he has decided to take a break because he has problems.

Anyone who wants to know how this all started and how it has progressed can read this thread.

I still say we should get the police involved.

What do others think?

[beldazar]

Can somebody not just go knock on his door? If I lived nearby I would have no qualms doing it.
I think calling the police is a bit extreme, perhaps that should come in after somebody has tried to find him thrugh his addresses

[jos08]

what a mystery !!!! why don;t people just go and knock on his door to see how he is or just sorry mate wrong house, what is going on ? it looks like people want to speculate rather than finding out the truth.

[nugget]

[QUOTE=nugget;447431]Mate please! You think im making stuff up now?

I do.

Well thats your problem mate.
We are here trying to get to the bottom of this, while people like you are making this situation harder.

Can I ask... You are doubting what I said based on what excatly?

[nugget]

what a mystery !!!! why don;t people just go and knock on his door to see how he is or just sorry mate wrong house, what is going on ? it looks like people want to speculate rather than finding out the truth.

Exactly!
I said before why dont we.. or someone that actually lives up near that way get up and just see him for themselves.
Rather than pointing the finger, speculating this and that.

Ive said countless times that im suspicious, but with all this mis information how is anyone to tell what the truth is.

Nothing will clarify this situation other than a face to face with the man himself.

[ericdubay]

Who among our British Icke forums members is going to take action? Lots of talk. No one's knocking on his door (myself included, but I'm abroad)

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

[jos08]

Exactly!
I said before why dont we.. or someone that actually lives up near that way get up and just see him for themselves.
Rather than pointing the finger, speculating this and that.

Ive said countless times that im suspicious, but with all this mis information how is anyone to tell what the truth is.

Nothing will clarify this situation other than a face to face with the man himself.
ok then .. why don you make a thread about anyone who lives in yorkshire, leeds to take up a task of finding out the truth and then we can establish together where he exactly lives. there are several ways in which we could find his address lets see who is going to visit him and make sure he is ok and for the sake of everyone on this forum take a photo together so all the speculation can go away forever.
here is an idea that i just stated so why don't you guys just think of some idea similar and take care of this whole mystery.

[lightgiver]

This is turning into a cosmic mind blog conspiracy;)
Does anyone know where RIK is???:confused:

[free canada]

sorry i haven't been posting lately as i have been going through my own life changes recently.

i have thought from the beginning that rik was silenced because of his work and that his research has hit the nail on the head regarding his theory of the false flag alien invasion during the 2012 olympics.

if you just take a step back as icke likes to say and look at the whole situation you will see it as plain as day.

i really can't be of much help not being in that part of the world and have tried my best to keep this thread going to help rik and his message to get out. i feel as though we are at the point where we need to get someone to go and try to make contact directly like you are saying.

his info is out there for all to see and maybe if we can't get to him we all need to spread his research as much as possible to help as many people as possible about this information. we all are members of multiple forums and most of us have editing skills etc.

lets make videos and write blogs etc to get this info out there. most of us that have read riks work agree that he was streaming very esoteric information. lets get motivated and get something done before its too late.

i am not trying to attack anyone here i just would like for us to get organized enough to do something instead of writing each other back and forth and procrastinating (myself included).


just my 2 cents

peace love

[simplify]

Surely it can't be this complicated to track someone. Think like a detective!
First, where are his parents home....look up the family name in the phone book in that area where he lives, & if there is 200 Clay names then call them all, you will at least start a process of elimination. Of course Rik may not even be at his parents home, but its a place to start. Are there any references on his resume that is posted on the web....perhaps contact some of them for info......if I lived in England.....this is what I would be doing.... I posted a reply already with some other ideas but got no reply on it as to what you folks thought. Personally, I believe Rik is worth every effort we can all put into this. He is a shining star, amongst us, and his efforts were for our benefit. Can we now summon up some courage for him.....please. I also believe contacting the police directly would be a dangerous move, since they probably are in cohoots with the powers that be, & such contact might put Rik at greater risk.

[frankanne]

It's all here. two addresses in West Yorkshire. and his phone number

http://www.rikjclay.co.uk/2007rikclayresume.pdf

I'm in London, so miles away.

[free canada]

here is his dad's city council info

john clay in leeds

Leeds City Council Election 2004

(Map coming soon)

Metropolitan district in West Yorkshire. Whole council up for election on new ward boundaries.

Results will be cleaned up soon.



CITY AND HUNSLET [3]
Elizabeth Nash Lab 1,651
Patrick Davey Lab 1,611
Mohammed Iqbal Lab 1,578
James Monaghan LD 879
Abul Kalam LD 839
John Clay LD 826

[free canada]

more

__________________________________________________ __________________

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:iFQ497R4CcQJ:www.rikjclay.co.uk/+site:www.rikjclay.co.uk+rik+clay&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=ca

[free canada]

his parents company

john and jill clay

http://www.stuntedrecords.co.uk/default.asp

[free canada]

Contact
John / Jill Clay
Stunted Records & Management
6 Cliff Gardens
Scunthorpe
North Lincolnshire
DN15 7PJ
United Kingdom

Tel: +44 (0)1724 358 966
Tel/Fax/Answerphone: +44 (0)1724 358 966
Mobile ( John ) : 07930 271 317

Email: john@stuntedrecords.co.uk
Email: jill@stuntedrecords.co.uk

[free canada]

riks band

FULC

myspace website




http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=7147235

[free canada]

rik clay torrents

http://www.torrentreactor.net/find/rik-clay


rik clay video interview

http://video.google.ca/videosearch?hl=en&newwindow=1&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&num=100&lr=&as_filetype=&ft=i&as_sitesearch=&as_qdr=all&as_rights=&as_occt=any&cr=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&safe=off&q=rik%20clay&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#

[free canada]

more rik clay material


http://indigochild-thirdeyeopen.blogspot.com/2008/08/rik-clay.html


http://adamdodson.org/taxonomy/term/252/0



band dates

http://www.pogomotion.co.uk/roster/fulc/fulc_gigs.htm


http://www.bbc.co.uk/leeds/content/articles/2005/01/19/local_bands_fulc_feature.shtml

[free canada]

only takes a few minutes to get research done now we just have to follow through.

[jos08]

thanks free canada for the info ,,, now we just need someone who lives in leeds to contact him and see him in person. the address is there in the cv and its all you need ... i will be travelling to leeds for xmas but thats months away ,,, but surely one of the members here is from leeds or anywhere around west yorkshire all those towns are close to leeds.

[free canada]

riks dads email

john.clay@ntlworld.com

his moms at there business

jill@stuntedrecords.co.uk

lets do some mass emails to them to get some more answers

[jock1056]

[QUOTE=jock1056;455410]

Well thats your problem mate.
We are here trying to get to the bottom of this, while people like you are making this situation harder.

Can I ask... You are doubting what I said based on what excatly?
Making situations harder= Changing names. + You facebooked Rik most of the afternoon tell us what he said that might help us get to the bottom of this .

[nugget]

Changing my name which was quite clearly me as I stated within minutes of yet more speculation... so not really relevant.

I basicly went through all that was said in the coversation apart from actually saying the details of what 'happened' to him. Something I was asked not to do.
And being the person I am I dont think its right of me to blurt that out to complete strangers....bar the few I have more contact with on these forums.

so again... your point is not relevant.

Please put as much effort into helping/finding rik rather than making rash comments towards me.

Thankyou.

...Canada good work with the info.

[nugget]

Can I also make the point that I spent hours adding all his info to my blog.... something I didnt do for no reason.

But lets get back on track.....
I will send an email to his parents address...and phone them if needs be. Im sure many of you have already? Let us know of the outcome if you have.

Cheers

[free canada]

Childhood's End

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Childhood's End is a science fiction novel by Sir Arthur C. Clarke, dealing with the role of Mind in the cosmos, and the plausible implications of that role for the evolution of the human race. It was originally published in 1953. The story first appeared as a short story titled "Guardian Angel" which Clarke published in 1950 for the Famous Fantastic Mysteries magazine, which is basically the novel's section after the prologue, Earth and the Overlords, with some different text in certain places. A new first chapter was substituted in 1990 due to anachronisms in the opening scene (Clarke wrongly assumed the "Moon Race" would take place in the late-1970s), but editions since have appeared with the original opening, or containing both alternatives.

Plot summary

Childhood's End is about humanity's transformation and integration to an interstellar "hive mind", the Overmind. It also touches upon such matters as cruelty to animals, man's inability to live in a utopian society, and the idea of being "The Last Man on Earth". The 1953 edition of the story begins at the height of the cold war some thirty years after the fall of the Third Reich, with attempts by both the U.S. and the Soviet Union to launch nuclear rockets into space for military purposes, threatening imminent doom.

The humans' arms race is brought to a halt by the sudden appearance of mysterious spaceships above all the Earth's great cities. After a week of silence and resultant increasing tension, the aliens, who become known as the Overlords, announce by world-wide broadcast that they have benign intentions and desire to help humanity, but that they will henceforth assume the minimum amount of control which will achieve their aims. As the enforcers of peace, they bring salvation and life, and yet also the death of some dreams, as humanity is no longer completely independent, nor may it pursue certain scientific explorations, such as space.

The humans remain suspicious, as the Overlords never appear in person. The Overlords' representative, Karellen, does speak with the Secretary General of the United Nations Rikki Stormgren, but is always hidden behind a pane of one way glass. The two develop a great deal of respect for one another, though it is clear they are not equals. To allay the inevitable suspicions of some, Karellen promises the Overlords will reveal themselves physically in fifty years, after humanity has matured and become comfortable with their presence.

Under the (mild) domination of the Overlords, Mankind enters a golden age of the greatest peace and prosperity ever known, albeit at the expense of some creativity and freedom. Not every Earthling is content with the bargain, nor accepts the beneficence of the Overlords' long-term intentions. Stormgren, with Karellen's help, survives a kidnap attempt by subversive humans suspicious of the Overlords. Stormgren secretly harbours lingering curiosity about the real Overlord nature and smuggles a device aboard Karellen's spaceship to see behind the one-way screen that separates them. Years later he tells a questioning reporter the device failed. The novel strongly hints that the device did indeed capture an image of the Overlords, which Stormgren saw, but that Stormgren agrees with the Overlords: mankind is unready for what that image revealed.

True to their word, fifty years after arrival, the Overlords appear in person. They resemble the traditional human folklore image of demons: bipeds with large wings, horned heads, and tails. The Overlords are taller than humans and of proportionally more massive bodies covered with a hard, black armor shell. The light from Earth's sun is too harsh for them, because their planet's sun has a dimmer redder light, and, though they can breathe Earth's atmosphere, the mix of gases in their own atmosphere is more comfortable. Humankind has, however, grown accustomed to the Overlords by this time and accepts them with open arms, and with their help, creates a utopian world.

Although humanity and the Overlords have developed peaceful and even friendly relations by now, the spread of equal goods and the ban on building space ships capable of traveling past the Earth's moon causes some sects to believe their innovation and independence is being suppressed and that culture is becoming stagnant. In response, those sects establish "New Athens", an island colony.
1968 edition of Childhood's End.
1968 edition of Childhood's End.

Some ten years after the Overlords revealed themselves to humanity, human children (starting in New Athens) begin displaying telepathic and telekinetic abilities and as a result, become estranged from their parents. Karellen then reveals the true purpose of why the Overlords came to Earth. They are in service to the Overmind, a cosmic mind amalgamated from ancient galactic civilizations, freed from the limitations of ordinary matter. The Overlords are not themselves capable of joining the Overmind, but the Overmind has charged them with the duty of fostering humanity's transition to a higher plane of existence and merger with the Overmind. The Overlords' resemblance to the devil of human folklore is later explained by a form of racial memory: humans fear the Overlords because we fear the end of our species as we know it. Karellen expresses an envy of humanity; his race is trapped as they are, as they are not now capable of joining the Overmind, though he hopes they will eventually learn how to do so.

Karellen announces that the children with psychic powers will be segregated from the rest of humanity on a continent of their own, and only these children will merge with the Overmind. No more children are born; the narration subtly hints that most of the parents commit suicide, while their children evolve towards merging with the Overmind. New Athens is then destroyed by the leaders detonating a nuclear bomb on it.

The last man alive is Jan Rodricks, a physicist, who will witness mankind's final evolutionary transformation. He stowed away on an Overlord supply ship earlier in the story in a successful attempt to travel to the Overlord home planet, which he correctly guessed orbits a star of the Carina constellation. As a physicist, Rodricks knows of the relativistic twin paradox effect: the Overlords' ships travel at a significant fraction of the speed of light, and as a result, the trip to the Overlord planet and back to Earth will only take four months in his subjective, personal time-frame, but the amount of elapsed 'objective' time will be, at minimum, 80 years, or the length of time light would take to make the similar journey, although the actual trip takes much longer. (The Overlord star system – known as NGS 549672 to astronomers on Earth – is forty light-years distant from Earth.)

When Rodricks returns from the Overlord home world, he expects no one on Earth will remember him, nevertheless, he is unprepared for the return: mankind, as he knew it, died. About three hundred million naked young beings, physically human but otherwise with nothing common to Man, remain on the quarantined continent. They are the final, physical form of human evolution before merging with the Overmind. Life — not only human life, but all other forms on the planet — was exterminated by them, and the vast cities that Jan remembers are all dark.

Some Overlords remain on Earth, studying the evolved children. It also is revealed here that the Overlords have met and conditioned other races for the Overmind, and that humanity is the fifth race the Overmind will collect.

When the evolved children have grown strong enough to mentally alter the Earth's rotation and affect other planetary adjustments, it becomes too dangerous to remain and the Overlords prepare to leave. They offer Rodricks the opportunity of leaving with them, but he chooses to remain as witness to Earth's dissolution; mankind's offspring evolved to a higher existence, requiring neither a body nor a place, so ends mankind's childhood.

The story's last scene details Karellen's final backward look at the Solar System, which becomes no more noticeable among the stars as it recedes than the loss of one small planet in the system. He is emotionally depressed, having seen yet another race evolve to the beyond, while he and his race must remain behind, limited to their current form. Despite that, he renders a final salute to mankind, considering whether or not conditioning them for the Overmind helped his goal of deciphering the evolutionary secret for his race to merge with the Overmind. He then turns away from the view, the reader presumes, to await the Overmind's next order.

[edit] Similar themes in other literature
1956 edition of Childhood's End.
1956 edition of Childhood's End.

The idea of humanity reaching an end point through transformation to a higher form of existence is the main idea behind the concept of the Omega Point and of the technological singularity. The idea of self-transcendence appealed to devotees of psychedelic mind expansion, too, and Tom Wolfe would offer a quote from the novel at the conclusion of his LSD-soaked memoir The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test.

It is also reminiscent of the belief held by some Christians in the "Rapture", and has been used in a number of science fiction works written since Childhood's End, the most famous being Clarke's 2001: A Space Odyssey. Other examples include Blood Music, Darwin's Radio, and its sequel Darwin's Children by Greg Bear, Sideshow by Sheri S. Tepper, the Vernor Vinge novels incorporating the "Singularity", Olaf Stapledon's Star Maker and, in Iain M Banks' "Culture" novels, the "sublimation" which advanced civilizations may undergo.

[edit] Translations

* Russian: "Конец детства" ("Childhood's End"), 1988, 1991, 1998, 1999, 2002, 2003.
* Czech: "Konec dětství" ("Childhood's End"), 1992, 2005.
* Hungarian: "A gyermekkor vége" ("Childhood's End"), 1990, 2008.
* Estonian: "Lapsepõlve lõpp" ("Childhood's End"), 1999.
* Norwegian: "Skygger fra fremtiden" ("Shadows from the future"), 1971.
* Spanish: "El Fin de la Infancia" ("The End of Childhood"), 2000, 2008.
* Serbian: "Kraj detinjstva" ("Childhood's End"), 1976.
* Hebrew: "Ketz Hayaldoot"‎ ("Childhood's End"), 1985.
* Greek: "Οι Επικυρίαρχοι" ("The Overlords"), 1978.
* Italian: "Le guide del tramonto" ("The guides of the sunset"), 1967.
* Croatian: "Kraj djetinjstva" ("Childhood's End"), 1996.
* French: "Les enfants d'Icare" ("Icarus' children"), 1978.
* Finnish: "Lapsuuden loppu" ("Childhood's End"), 1973.
* Portuguese: "O Fim da Infância" ("Childhood's End"), 1979.
* Japanese: 「幼年期の終わり」 "Yōnenki no Owari" ("Childhood's End")
* German: "Die letzte Generation" ("The Last Generation").

[jos08]

anyone received any news from him.. is he ok?
I don't know the guy but I was struck by the things he said on the radio show.. he triggered something and that is why his blog was gone.

[truthcommission]

Childhood's End

WTF has this got to do with Cosmic Mind blog?

Honestly some people have too much time on their hands. At least he is sure of eager buyers when his book comes out.

[free canada]

it has everything to do with the blog being shut down

read the plot summary

Childhood's End is about humanity's transformation and integration to an interstellar "hive mind", the Overmind. It also touches upon such matters as cruelty to animals, man's inability to live in a utopian society, and the idea of being "The Last Man on Earth". The 1953 edition of the story begins at the height of the cold war some thirty years after the fall of the Third Reich, with attempts by both the U.S. and the Soviet Union to launch nuclear rockets into space for military purposes, threatening imminent doom.

The humans' arms race is brought to a halt by the sudden appearance of mysterious spaceships above all the Earth's great cities. After a week of silence and resultant increasing tension, the aliens, who become known as the Overlords, announce by world-wide broadcast that they have benign intentions and desire to help humanity, but that they will henceforth assume the minimum amount of control which will achieve their aims. As the enforcers of peace, they bring salvation and life, and yet also the death of some dreams, as humanity is no longer completely independent, nor may it pursue certain scientific explorations, such as space.

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riks work was related to this very senerio. london olympics and a false falg alien invasion

read and learn

[kerravon]

Saw this over the weekend, and straight away thought of Rik and talking about the number 11.

Venus - Morning Star/Lucifer
Eleven - The number 11
Logo is 11-11
Winning plate (looks like a sun) symbolically being held over her head.

Just seems like a few too many coincidences to me.


http://209.200.113.194/venus%20-%20eleven.jpg

[jos08]

Saw this over the weekend, and straight away thought of Rik and talking about the number 11.

Venus - Morning Star/Lucifer
Eleven - The number 11
Logo is 11-11
Winning plate (looks like a sun) symbolically being held over her head.

Just seems like a few too many coincidences to me.

nice post ... yeah its very creepy .,.. all these number 11s coming up everywhere. Rik knew something and that is why his blog went down. I believe he did it because he found something else much sinister than we think or maybe he was just frightened and told to take it off.

[frankanne]

There's another thread on this forum about the Olympic handover to London ceremony and the Visit London video.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33987

The sick sick bastards of visit london (Howie has done some amazing research). Read the thread and Howie's posts to find out all the symbolism and joining of the dots. Rothschild is involved in Visit London. The artist of the evil portrait of Myra Hindley that was done by children's handprints, Marcus Harvey, (same initials as Myra Hindley) grew up, get this, in Moortown Leeds, Yorkshire, 1963. And Myra Hindley's portrait is used, can you believe this, in the promotional video of Visit London.

The handover ceremony uses a London Bus and as the bus comes into the arena, the first few bars of 'JERUSALEM' is played. Rik spoke about the Olympic site being ZION, JERUSALEM, and here we have the song Jerusalem being played, just the first few bars. Here's the link to the ceremonial hand-over video with the bus:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olym...12/7577999.stm

The Jerusalem music starts at 1.26.

The bus EXPLODES, all the people fall down, a little muslim girl walks all over them. How blatant can they get? 7/7 london bombing.

Howie found out a whole load of other symbolism.

Thank you so much to Rik and Howie and all the others helping us to join the dots.

[frankanne]

Saw this over the weekend, and straight away thought of Rik and talking about the number 11.

Venus - Morning Star/Lucifer
Eleven - The number 11
Logo is 11-11
Winning plate (looks like a sun) symbolically being held over her head.

Just seems like a few too many coincidences to me.


http://209.200.113.194/venus%20-%20eleven.jpg

Good find kerravon. Yes, there does seem to be symbolism here.

[beldazar]

Just clicked on your link and says page has been removed or seleted....deleted no doubt

[frankanne]

How weird is that? My link doesn't work, but Mercuryrapid's one does. If you go to the 'Hindley Image in Olympic video' thread, page 2, post 13. There's a link and that one works.

Weird.

[beldazar]

thanks frankanne, Ive just watched it, these people are laughing at us! :mad:

[frankanne]

thanks frankanne, Ive just watched it, these people are laughing at us! :mad:

I know. It has made me so angry. How they can be so blatant and use such a terrible tragic event such as the london bombings, and we all applaud and clap and give praise. ooooohhhhhh my blood pressure is raising again.

[kerravon]

frankanne, your link is bad because "pics/london_20" has been replaced with "...". You must have copied and pasted mercury rapid's link which was truncated by the forum.

The full link is:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/london_2012/7577999.stm

Also, It seems you can't even view the video outside of the UK. I'm in the USA and I get an error "Cannot play media. Sorry, this media is not available in your territory."

[frankanne]

frankanne, your link is bad because "pics/london_20" has been replaced with "...". You must have copied and pasted mercury rapid's link which was truncated by the forum.

The full link is:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/olympics/london_2012/7577999.stm

Also, It seems you can't even view the video outside of the UK. I'm in the USA and I get an error "Cannot play media. Sorry, this media is not available in your territory."

Thanks for that kerravon. It's a shame you can't get it.

There's an 'international version' option on the link and this is what it says:

BBC UK and International versions
The UK version gives prominence to the breadth and depth of BBC content in the UK including news, sport and weather along with UK radio and TV. You may prefer this version if you live in the UK.
The International version gives prominence to world news, sport and weather along with the BBC's international radio and TV services. You may prefer this version if you live outside the UK.
You can change your version at any time

[free canada]

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hartandhuntingtontattoo.com/store/hartandhuntingtontattoo/images/items/HHMetallicSkull.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hartandhuntingtontattoo.com/cgi-bin/hartandhuntingtontattoo/HH306.html&h=470&w=500&sz=20&hl=en&start=5&um=1&usg=__gwRh0JT1P43HV_OiiIQuBcDtt_4=&tbnid=46t1NNugk4HfvM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHart%2B%2526%2BHuntington%26um%3D1%26 hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa% 3DN%26as_qdr%3Dall


check out the logo for inked on A@E

11|11

all over again

[rich157]

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.hartandhuntingtontattoo.com/store/hartandhuntingtontattoo/images/items/HHMetallicSkull.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.hartandhuntingtontattoo.com/cgi-bin/hartandhuntingtontattoo/HH306.html&h=470&w=500&sz=20&hl=en&start=5&um=1&usg=__gwRh0JT1P43HV_OiiIQuBcDtt_4=&tbnid=46t1NNugk4HfvM:&tbnh=122&tbnw=130&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHart%2B%2526%2BHuntington%26um%3D1%26 hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26newwindow%3D1%26safe%3Doff%26sa% 3DN%26as_qdr%3Dall


check out the logo for inked on A@E

11|11

all over again

+ It has the skull & bones in the background.

[qeiii]

I want to send a link to someone about the zion street plan for the London Olympics. I have been on the cosmicreturns blog spot but can only find the map. I would really like the explanation as well. Can anybody help?
Thanks

[kerravon]

I want to send a link to someone about the zion street plan for the London Olympics. I have been on the cosmicreturns blog spot but can only find the map. I would really like the explanation as well. Can anybody help?
Thanks

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_QiZluUixU0o/SKhs3GcP7VI/AAAAAAAAAK0/gbkTEXkdAyw/s1600-h/olympicsroads.jpg

The only description I know about is in the RedIce interviews

[phonicboom]

I want to send a link to someone about the zion street plan for the London Olympics. I have been on the cosmicreturns blog spot but can only find the map. I would really like the explanation as well. Can anybody help?
Thanks

go to page 9 of this thread for a copy of it, plus page 12 and some earlier than 9 too, scan back, a lot was posted in this thread (not too well formatted but info is there) :) around the page 9 mark ..

[qeiii]

go to page 9 of this thread for a copy of it, plus page 12 and some earlier than 9 too, scan back, a lot was posted in this thread (not too well formatted but info is there) :) around the page 9 mark ..

Thanks for that and for kerravons large scale map. Unfortunately there is no
explanation of the street map there either. I'm beginning to think I have imagined reading it!! I'm sure there was something about the site been left derelict for so long etc etc.

Will re-read the thread again in case I missed it. Thanks for all your help anyway.

[frankanne]

Thanks for that and for kerravons large scale map. Unfortunately there is no
explanation of the street map there either. I'm beginning to think I have imagined reading it!! I'm sure there was something about the site been left derelict for so long etc etc.

Will re-read the thread again in case I missed it. Thanks for all your help anyway.

It was this thread queii:

London Olympics 2012 : Zion : Biblical Street Map, by Rik Clay

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26695

post 8 has the street layout

The Olympic hand over ceremony featured a London Bus exploding (London Bombings) and as the bus entered the arena, The Tune 'JERUSALEM' is playing. Just the first few bars, but definitely JERUSALEM

When when those feet
In ancient times
Walk upon Englands
Mountain
Green.

[qeiii]

It was this thread queii:

London Olympics 2012 : Zion : Biblical Street Map, by Rik Clay

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26695

post 8 has the street layout

The Olympic hand over ceremony featured a London Bus exploding (London Bombings) and as the bus entered the arena, The Tune 'JERUSALEM' is playing. Just the first few bars, but definitely JERUSALEM

When when those feet
In ancient times
Walk upon Englands
Mountain
Green.


Thank you frankanne. That is what I was thinking of. I thought it was part of the original blog - had forgotten it was somebody else's contribution. This forum is great. Thanks for all your help everyone. :D

[qeiii]

Eureka!

Just remembered I emailed the entire article to someone when it first came out. This might be of interest to those who are keeping Riks work up to date.
Have copied page in entirety so there is extraneous stuff as well.

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Tuesday, 20 May 2008
London Olympics 2012 : Zion : Street Plan
Posted by Rik at 21:17

For background reading please read my previous posts:

1) London Olympics 2012 : Zion (The New Jerusalem)

2) London Olympics 2012 : The Logo's Creator


I shall start by stating my intentions. With my research, I do not intend to cause panic or fear, or to create a platform for prejudice and hate. As a spiritual person, I publish these views in order to simply raise awareness. To raise awareness on the grounds, that if indeed something does transpire during the London Olympics 2012, you can observe the event with a critical eye. It is my intention to ensure we shall not be duped!

Following my two previous articles concerning the Olympics 2012, I decided to cast my eyes into the air and look down again. You guessed it, out came Google Maps.

Here's a satellite view of the Olympics 2012 Site:



Stratford in London, is to become host to the Olympic village, which is undergoing massive regeneration due to the project. The site was claimed to be the last area of suitable waste land in London. Pretty lucky eh? Or maybe it was left alone for years for this very reason! I choose the latter.

And so... to the point. Take a look at the Olympic site with the Google Maps road view. On a first glance it looks like any other map view, but persevere... take a closer look at the road names (click to enlarge):



You will find that the entire site of the Olympic Village is surrounded by somewhat biblical and mystical road names. The New Jerusalem you ask?


The Roads

1. East Cross Route (actually the A12 or A'20'12) : ref. "The Eastern Cross"

The Eastern Orthodox cross (also known as Crux Orthodoxa, the Byzantine cross, the Eastern cross, and the "Russian" cross) can be considered a modified version of the Patriarchal cross, having two smaller crossbeams, one at the top and one near the bottom, in addition to the longer crossbeam.


Notice how the East Cross Route is also an A road - numbered A12.

Given the UK has hundreds of A roads, what's the likelihood that of all roads, the A'20'12 intersects the Olympic site?

Pause for a second and think about the shape of the letter A... yes it's a pyramid with a capstone. So symbolically the only major road which 'crosses' the Olympic site, is the A(Pyramid) (20)12.


2. Carpenter's Road : ref. "Joseph"

Joseph's profession is described in the Gospels as a τεκτων, a Greek word for a variety of skilled craftsmen, but Christian tradition has him as a "carpenter".

3. Great Eastern Road : ref. Eastern Star

The Order of the Eastern Star is the largest fraternal organization in the world that both men and women can join. It was established in 1850 by Rob Morris, a lawyer and educator who had been an official with the Freemasons.




As you can see the emblem for the "Order Of The Eastern Star" is a pentagram - similar to that found on the UK Passport. An acknowledgement of the pagan deity Satan / Saturn.

4. Angel Lane : ref. Angel Gabriel / The Holy Spirit

Angels visit Joseph and Mary. Angels announced Christ's birth to Mary and Joseph. The angel Gabriel visited Mary in Nazareth. She was engaged to Joseph. Gabriel told Mary she would give birth to the Son of God. Mary was a virgin. Gabriel told her God's power would make the conception possible. Gabriel said, "Nothing will be impossible with God".

5. Temple Mills Lane

Temple Mills were water mills belonging to the Knights Templar - "The Poor Fellow-Soldiers of Christ and of the Temple of Solomon".




6. Church Road (Update)

Although not shown on the above map (but please do look in Google), the road on the north east perimeter of the complex takes it's name from the Christian place of worship, a church.



The Location - Ley Lines

The Olympics 2012 site is situated between Leyton and Leytonestone. The "Ley" found in their names originates from the term 'Ley lines'.

For those who are in the dark:

Ley lines, or Leys, are alignments of ancient sites stretching across the landscape. Ancient sites or holy places may be situated in a straight line ranging from one or two to several miles in length. A ley may be identified simply by an aligned placing of marker sites, or it might be visible on the ground for all or part of its length by the remnants of an old straight track.

Our ancestors knew that ley lines, earth grids and vortexes were energy sources and centers that were to be considered holy.

A "Ley Line" is one a number of lines which form part of an energy grid which cross the Earth. The energy - metaphysical in nature.

So is there any documentary proof that 'Ley lines' cross near Leyton and Leytonestone? You bet there is...

The bender site, and the old yew tree in it, were the short-lived heart of Leytonstonia, decorated with a kerb-henge, a replica of Stonehenge made with kerbstones. (Some talked of the significance of the names Leyton and Leytonstone, of their relation to ley lines more generally, as though this might explain the energy of the protest sites. A brickhenge was made at Clarement Road, halfway between Leyton and Leytonstone.)

The Olympics site lies in an area synonymous with mystical - metaphysical - earth energy. Is this yet another coincidence or part of a plan for the 2012 Olympics which was put into motion way before the event was officially finalised?


Conclusions
It seems the Olympics 2012 site was picked for reasons which go far beyond that of 'spare waste land'.

The roads which encompass the site, contain biblical and Masonic references, lying dormant for years, as if to become part of some majestic ritual.

And if that wasn't enough, a new construction intersecting 'Angel Lane' looks to be forming a grand procession.

In the BBC interview "It will be a lasting legacy" with Jean Pickering, the former Olympic bronze medallist was quoted as saying:

I remember running along Angel Lane to get the train to work and hearing all the market stall holders cheering me on. That's true East End spirit.

References to 'lasting legacy', 'Angel Lane', and 'true spirit' sound ominous to me, given our 'Zion' street map.

Britain's spiritual landmarks - Stonehenge, Glastonbury Tor and Avebury, all rest upon 'ley lines' (areas of intense earth energy). Could it be any more bewildering that they have chosen such a site for our Olympic games? And that it just so happened to be vacant for the occasion?

To close I would like to end with a reference from the Bible. Note the chapter and verse numbers.


Mark 11:11
Then Jesus went into Jerusalem and into the temple and looked around at everything. Since it was already late, he went out with his twelve disciples to Bethany.


At 11:11 (find out more here), Jesus enters Jerusalem, or should that be the New Jerusalem - Zion!






Labels: 11:11, 2012, Esotericism, Freemasonry, Olympics, Project Blue Beam, Religion, Royalty, Satanism, Sprituality, Symbology
10 comments:
lewis said...
good stuff as usual rik. i'm fully hooked on this site...

21 May 2008 15:37
Rik said...
much appreciated :)

21 May 2008 16:15
Anonymous said...
They might be looking to open sort of a Stargate ,utilising the energy emanating from the euphoric spectators.

23 May 2008 16:49
Rik said...
The ley line connections could certainly insinuate something along these lines...

27 May 2008 10:37
Henrik Palmgren said...
Check out Dr. Who (the latest incarnation) the episode on 2012 and the Olympic's. It's called: "Fear Her"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MONQ77AGaRI&search=fear%20her

27 May 2008 14:03
Rik said...
hey henrik, thanks for the post.

i've seen the wiki episode guides to both Fear Her and Dalek (set in 2012), and from what I can see they both contain more than enough symbology.

Potentially enough for a new post in the future :)

The character, Rose = "England's Rose" perhaps?

27 May 2008 14:14
Steph said...
Hey! In the big image of the WolffOlins website... look at the 3rd image of the 3rd row. You can read somthing like "Saint-Etienne" and "Provokate" (without the "e" at the end)

And the hand points toward "Saint-Etienne"

And I don't know if you have seen the PDF on that website... juste in case it could help you in any way, in the newpaper that the boy is holding, you can see a big ad "We're proud to be the firste official partner of the London 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games

In the last lettre (N) or number (2) of the logo, it says "Official banking and insurance partner"
The company is "Lloyds TSB | for the journey..."
Under, you can see the address "www.lloydstsb.com/london2012" that redirects to http://www.lloydstsblondon2012.co.uk/

29 May 2008 22:37
Steph said...
OH! I just saw... look at the Beijing logo... you can spell zion with it as well.

Left leg : Z
Arms : I
Body : O
Right Leg : N

:)

29 May 2008 22:50
Rik said...
Sssh Steph :)

I haven't had chance to cover this yet... Olympics 2008 coming soon!

30 May 2008 11:53
openingminds@hush.com said...
I'd suggest people keep an eye on what is actually being built on that site. There's more there than meets the eye.

06 June 2008 10:55
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[free canada]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29101


here it all is formated and everything

[kerravon]

The character, Rose = "England's Rose" perhaps?

Probably a reference to Rosecrucian.

[jojo]

Any news on Rik, nugget?

Just keeping this thread going. Still sending Rik love and hope wherever he might be in body and spirit.

[qasrose]

Any news on Rik nugget?

Just keeping this thread going. Still sending Rik love and hope wherever he might be in body and spirit.

His name is Ric Clay not Nugget, shows you how much respect you have for him.

[jojo]

His name is Ric Clay not Nugget, shows you how much respect you have for him.

Lol, i know i was asking the poster on here called "nugget"... you dumbo!

[qasrose]

Lol, i know i was asking the poster on here called "nugget"... you dumbo!

Sorry I miss understood you,

[jojo]

Sorry I miss understood you,

Its ok, if it keeps this thread in the new post sections then its worth it. :)

[qasrose]

Its ok, if it keeps this thread in the new post sections then its worth it. :)

:) it sure will.

[jos08]

after hearing about his blog and listening to him on redicecreation radio, I became interested in him.

he thinks that the cosmic mind is hijacked by somebody and is using it for their benefit through all these numerology and geometric messages (which I think is very interesting).

[free canada]

http://thecosmicreturns.blogspot.com/


rik clay might be dead. still trying to confirm this

[realitycheck]

Lol, i know i was asking the poster on here called "nugget"... you dumbo!


lol

chicken nuggets?

[jos08]

Any news on Rik, nugget?

Just keeping this thread going. Still sending Rik love and hope wherever he might be in body and spirit.
yeah that what I thought.. he seemed to know more than anyone and I think that he said he had contacted him as well.
his profile
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/member.php?u=13009
I hope he is ok.

[kingmonkey]

Has everyone subscribed to this thread seen this:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34587


He's dead. :(

[jock1056]

Well he just asked me not to. Thats the only reason why.
To be fair if it was me id probably say to put peoples minds at rest. But its his private life so ill respect that.
Like I said I cant be 100% sure its him.... but it very well could be, so I have to respect that I guess.

I can only be sure once I have had a vocal chat with him.... If he will chat that is.

....also, he said hes been occasionally reading this thread. So he knows whats being said.

hmm makes it sound even more suss now :S

you can tell us every thing now .

[synergy777]

rik was onto something and had great insight. he was a good soul, and now is in a better place.

the problem with seeing the truth/red pill is that once you start seeing it, it gets too much and becomes a great burden. a burden which you can only share with a few, as most do not see it or will resort to ridiculing and persecuting you.

i have posted his stuff on myspace and my myspace blog, long live rik.

when this stuff happens, it should strengthen our resolve, and make us continue the fight, as we cannot give up.

we have to improve constantly.

[synergy777]

rik was onto something and had great insight. he was a good soul, and now is in a better place.

the problem with seeing the truth/red pill is that once you start seeing it, it gets too much and becomes a great burden. a burden which you can only share with a few, as most do not see it or will resort to ridiculing and persecuting you.

i have posted his stuff on myspace and my myspace blog, long live rik.

when this stuff happens, it should strengthen our resolve, and make us continue the fight, as we cannot give up.

we have to improve constantly.

[synergy777]

rik was onto something and had great insight. he was a good soul, and now is in a better place.

the problem with seeing the truth/red pill is that once you start seeing it, it gets too much and becomes a great burden. a burden which you can only share with a few, as most do not see it or will resort to ridiculing and persecuting you.

i have posted his stuff on myspace and my myspace blog, long live rik.

when this stuff happens, it should strengthen our resolve, and make us continue the fight, as we cannot give up.

we have to improve constantly.

[uloodara]

:( Wow.

I don't believe that he took his own life, considering the interview ect.
I was wondering for ages what ever happend to his blog, and now this :confused:. He definitely was onto something deep in exposing the 2012 olympics...it led everything in a hole different direction.

Peace to Rik and his family. :(

We need more soldiers in the war for truth...:mad:

Thank You Rik!

WuN

[1freethinker]

WTF?...all this stuff exists as facts, and nothing gets done!?!?!?! WTF? im ready to fight right fn now!!! sorry!!! thats how i feel !!!!

[frankanne]

WTF?...all this stuff exists as facts, and nothing gets done!?!?!?! WTF? im ready to fight right fn now!!! sorry!!! thats how i feel !!!!

I know how you feel freethinker. I feel the same. However, we have been 'told off' by someone purporting to be a friend of his, saying how our speculating that Rik may have been killed is disrespectful and hurtful to Rik's friends and family.

We are in a difficult positon.

My heart goes out to Rik's family and would never want to add to their grief.

My heart aches too with the sadness of losing Rik. Not just his 'research work', but for the person that Rik was. A wonderful young man, the same age as my oldest son, and even though I never met him personally, I read his research work, I heard him speak in the Red Ice interview, I spoke to him even on the phone when he went missing. He sounded very faint and said he was with his family. I do feel personally affected.

I'm not even sure how he supposedly died. Maybe we should all wait until we hear what actually happened, and maybe after the funeral, as a mark of respect to Rik's family.

[1freethinker]

beleave me i understand having respect for the family. But wouldnt it be disrespectful to rik, for his parents to not let his peers question things. Giving what rik was into while he was here?

[frankanne]

beleave me i understand having respect for the family. But wouldnt it be disrespectful to rik, for his parents to not let his peers question things. Giving what rik was into while he was here?

I agree with you. In fact, if it were my son (I do have a similar situation) I would be proud and comforted that people wanted to get to the truth of the matter.

However, I have always been outnumbered in my opinions - anything else new? - so I can never relate MY feelings to others.

There seems to be the view that it is unseemly to discuss his death before his funeral. I never could grasp the socially acceptable, etiquette stuff that others seem to find so easy. I never have.

[squalorada]

Considering the thread has been closed, maybe just to me or maybe in general, i wanted to post in publice a response to the post you made.

- I'm not against anything that is being spoken about on this forum.
- I truly believe in intelligence, free thinkers, and free speach

- you censored our private messages in your post, that makes you as politcally rubbish as most.

- they were private, becuase i had thought in your support of rik you would have the respect to give me a couple of answers as I grieve.

- I have no doubt that some people who new him direct aren't as touched as some people who knew hime online, but my point was that it is too early to be posting online about foul play... especially him faking his own facebook death as I know, his family are reading this.

- My point was that some people really know the facts, and speculation from people who don't is gonne be raw to understand on a lot of peoples minds.

- Talk about his theories, talk about how much you'll miss him, get his research out there. but don't, within a few days, ina public space, state you know its foul play when you know nothing as a fact.

Thats all i have to say.
Im genuine.
Yes i came here since his passing, but it doesn't mean i've never had a thought.
If someone now wants to shut this or delete it... do it.
It will as free_canada has made me feel, make me laugh at how contradictory you all are.

[duckingdafta]

I feel I recognize these writings.. how weird is that.. and I'm not usually wrong with this line.
I will react in thought.

[free canada]

Considering the thread has been closed, maybe just to me or maybe in general, i wanted to post in publice a response to the post you made.

- I'm not against anything that is being spoken about on this forum.
- I truly believe in intelligence, free thinkers, and free speach

- you censored our private messages in your post, that makes you as politcally rubbish as most.

- they were private, becuase i had thought in your support of rik you would have the respect to give me a couple of answers as I grieve.

- I have no doubt that some people who new him direct aren't as touched as some people who knew hime online, but my point was that it is too early to be posting online about foul play... especially him faking his own facebook death as I know, his family are reading this.

- My point was that some people really know the facts, and speculation from people who don't is gonne be raw to understand on a lot of peoples minds.

- Talk about his theories, talk about how much you'll miss him, get his research out there. but don't, within a few days, ina public space, state you know its foul play when you know nothing as a fact.

Thats all i have to say.
Im genuine.
Yes i came here since his passing, but it doesn't mean i've never had a thought.
If someone now wants to shut this or delete it... do it.
It will as free_canada has made me feel, make me laugh at how contradictory you all are.



hello squalorada

well shocked i am

"you censored our private messages in your post, that makes you as politcally rubbish as most."

how did i do this. i posted our message to clear up the how rik passed debate. so that people stopped fighting over what happened. and you said that you knew him for 10 years and that he hadtaken his own life. wasn't trying to cause any problems just clearing things up. why can't someone just post the details and be done with it anyway?

"they were private, becuase i had thought in your support of rik you would have the respect to give me a couple of answers as I grieve."

i am sorry i should not have writen your private message to me then sorry for that. i just wanted to clear up the confusion. and as i wrote i had no answers just questions for you.

I have no doubt that some people who new him direct aren't as touched as some people who knew hime online, but my point was that it is too early to be posting online about foul play... especially him faking his own facebook death as I know, his family are reading this.

sorry people are suspisious about what happened, but considering riks research it is warented especialy on a forum like this that deals with real world problems and things that are not know to the general public.


- "My point was that some people really know the facts, and speculation from people who don't is gonne be raw to understand on a lot of peoples minds."

why don't you fill us in with the facts so that people stop specilating then

"Talk about his theories, talk about how much you'll miss him, get his research out there. but don't, within a few days, ina public space, state you know its foul play when you know nothing as a fact."

i never stated that it was foul play ever. some people may have and that is there right. maybe not apropriate, but some people may not have the fortitude that you apairently have.


"Thats all i have to say.
Im genuine.
Yes i came here since his passing, but it doesn't mean i've never had a thought.
If someone now wants to shut this or delete it... do it.
It will as free_canada has made me feel, make me laugh at how contradictory you all are."

you seems to be trying to start a debate on who cares more and seems to be a little contradictory yourself.

well i never wanted this kind of stuff to happen, but you can't control what people think.

i hope this clears up this rediculiuos problem

[scandal girl]

why don't you fill us in with the facts so that people stop specilating then



well, i did, but my all posts removed , here you said rick died on friday:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=482876#post482876

and a lasting tributes site as the date as (28.08.2008) which was thursday

http://lastingtribute.thisisscunthorpe.co.uk/similardeathnotices/clay/2894557

how this could happended? this is only question i have (all else is speculation)

[free canada]

i was told friday by squalor and squalor said they knew rik for 10 years and took that as an indicator that it was someone close.

sorry i will not trust people so easily in the future until i get more info on them

[squalorada]

hoooray for free speach

the title has been changed.
some replys have been deleted.

Awesome.

Canada -
I'm not gonna fill anyone on the internet i dont know with any facts.
Its probably gonna be discussed amongst friends on friday.
I'm really not starting a debate.
As i said, put his research out there, its good to let people think.
He was an amazingly intelligent guy, so why not.
All i ask, is respect for the friends and family that aren't into his beliefs to be able to grieve
You can "google" his name and this is one of the first things that pops up.
Thats gonna be hard.
Friday is gonna be about celebrating 26 years of an awesome guy.

[free canada]

really don't know why you are being so wierd

most people who are grieving from him that don't share his ideas or research passion won't be on here anyway. you can barely get people to stop using fluoride let along get on a computer and start to find out what the real world is like so i don't think people specilating on the internet about his life are really going to effect anything.

just my 2 cents

[rjl9332]

has no one noticed the backup Rik Clay site has been removed too??

http://thecosmicreturns.blogspot.com/

btw I got an email from his mum, she said it was suicide. :confused:

[scandal girl]

btw I got an email from his mum, she said it was suicide. :confused:

how you know you spoken to "his mum" ?

[deafbred]

"let the dead burry their dead"

we got a life to lead and live

[deafbred]

the guy wouldn't commit suicide

he would want to see what happens on 2012

[alexph777]

has no one noticed the backup Rik Clay site has been removed too??

http://thecosmicreturns.blogspot.com/


Son of a bitch....they've removed this too!!! What goes on??? Who's doing this?! :mad:

Maybe try to use a different company next time, that hosts the blog or use myspace, etc.

So grateful and thank you to "free canada" for having the info available here. Is there any info that was on the back up site that is not on these forums?

Look likes we have to save everything to our hardisks these days or better still print on paper.

[deafbred]

"HELL force"

[free canada]

hello everyone

i will be taking a break from the forum for a little bit to concentrate on some personal matters,work etc, so if you don't see me posting that why.

keep up the work everyone...

[deafbred]

hello everyone

i will be taking a break from the forum for a little bit to concentrate on some personal matters,work etc, so if you don't see me posting that why.

keep up the work everyone...

awe come on don't serve the death spirit

if you feel a positive posting of progress is needed than keep on a truckin

just because other's wheels have stopped doesn't mean you have to idle

don't let burdens be put on you

you know THE NOW is all that matters

don't let them use the past against you

you shouldn't have to explain yourself either

(now I know what 'bump'is) thanks to you

if we're going to be "fools" for TRUTH good



somethings got a grip on us all..

the stage of the game waiting for the final credits so we can see what work has been done by who


if you need a 'break' do what you u feel you should, EITHER WAY! ---im sure people can relate through the understand

[free canada]

hello again everyone

to be honest i am a little concerned with all this happenings surrounding riks research that "TPTB" the powers that be", are watching this forum and i am sure know exactly who i am by now. I don't want to put anyone close to me in any physical danger. i know that spiritually TPTB can't touch us, but i am a little scared. sorry for being dramatic, but it seems warented seeing how things are going these days in the world.

anyone have any words of advice?

i really think riks work was special and hope that his information and research get out to the masses to help all tose who need it.

[qasrose]

The condolences thread can be found http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34587
please use this ONLY if you wish to leave your condolences.

His research work can be found
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34593

If you want to talk about Rik then please feel free to use this thread ONLY.

Remember please keep this discussion to a minimum level

[claymoremind]

I only knew Rik thru his work and interviews, but I grieve to see the passing of such a talent and light.

Still, his work is saved and will reappear. Hardcopy and backup everything. Rik was close - very close. Rik got a lance into the dragon. It is up to us to get even closer, in his memory.

[americana]

If you read the Facebook comments, you will see that Rik's sister says she knows what she has to do . . . .which I found to be very interesting.

I thought that in the pix on the upper right hand corner, 1st page of the Facebook tribute, he looks very thin. He is normally a thin guy, it's just his body type/ metabolism, I guess, but he looks like he'd lost a lot of weight . . .


He sounds like he lit up everyone's life and was a joy to be around.

A truly beautiful person, and I hope he has found peace.

Much love to you, Rik.

[frankanne]

hello again everyone

to be honest i am a little concerned with all this happenings surrounding riks research that "TPTB" the powers that be", are watching this forum and i am sure know exactly who i am by now. I don't want to put anyone close to me in any physical danger. i know that spiritually TPTB can't touch us, but i am a little scared. sorry for being dramatic, but it seems warented seeing how things are going these days in the world.

anyone have any words of advice?

i really think riks work was special and hope that his information and research get out to the masses to help all tose who need it.

Hi FreeCanada,

I can't give you any advice. I'll miss your posts on the forum if you do decide to leave for a while, but obviously, you have to follow your own feelings on this.

You did so much to keep Rik's work alive. Much thanks and gratitude for that.

The cosmicmindreturns blog, which qasrose set up, has been taken down. Did you know? I'm feeling very angry about it all. I also feel like we have been gagged. Not allowed to say anything. I suppose it is understandable for the time being, but I'm sure Rik would want the truth to come out, rather than this gagged silence.

Oh, it's just my feelings of sadness, anger, frustration, and now oppression.

FreeCanada, take care. You've been a force for good and for truthseeking.

Sending you loving thoughts. A true 'comrade truthseeker'.

Bye for now.

Frankie (I won't put the kiss cross. Remembering what Rik pointed out that it meant).

[qasrose]

A lot of you are probably wondering what happened to my blog which was a back up of all Riks work. I decided to delete it. As you'll find that there are other websites out there that have started to continue his work already.

I just wanted to clear that up, before you all start saying that it was a conspiracy, Thanks

Lee

[jojo]

A lot of you are probably wondering what happened to my blog which was a back up of all Riks work. I decided to delete it. As you'll find that there are other websites out there that have started to continue his work already.

I just wanted to clear that up, before you all start saying that it was a conspiracy, Thanks

Lee

I clicked on it a little while ago and noticed it had been pulled. dont you think that the more sites with his work on the better though? There is a link to your site on matthew delooze and I know i have saved it in my favorites.

I know you have your reasons, but please put it back up gasrose. :)

[qasrose]

I clicked on it a little while ago and noticed it had been pulled. dont you think that the more sites with his work on the better though? There is a link to your site on matthew delooze and I know i have saved it in my favorites.

I know you have your reasons, but please put it back up gasrose. :)

Nope don't think it will get put back up sorry, I have my reasons, which are just that I just feel it's the best for my self to leave it closed.

[jojo]

Nope don't think it will get put back up sorry, I have my reasons, which are just that I just feel it's the best for my self to leave it closed.

ok, fair enough. Im sure your reasons are valid.

You mention that other sites are carrying on his work, Could you post some links please.

[qasrose]

ok, fair enough. Im sure your reasons are valid.

You mention that other sites are carrying on his work, Could you post some links please.

I don't know where the thread is but someone on here, started a blog with hsi work, best search the genera or the todays news section :).

[zeptepi]

These are the only other links with Rik's research that I know of...

http://justinstephens.blogspot.com/ (http://justinstephens.blogspot.com/)

http://actionhumanity.org/tribute/rik-clay/2006-08-01/
http://actionhumanity.org/tribute/rik-clay/2006-08-02/
http://actionhumanity.org/tribute/rik-clay/2008-04-05/
http://actionhumanity.org/tribute/rik-clay/2008-04-18/
http://actionhumanity.org/tribute/rik-clay/2008-05-17/
http://actionhumanity.org/tribute/rik-clay/2008-05-28/

His blog was backed up and you can download it here at megaupload...
http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=V8E13RCE
password: tcm

[zeptepi]

His blog was backed up and you can download it here at megaupload...
http://www.megaupload.com/nl/?d=V8E13RCE
password: tcm

After you unzip, you will have 5 directories, each for one page. Open the "index.html" in the current directory with your browser.

[kerravon]

I have to ask, what happened to nugget??

He claimed to have a long Facebook conversation with Rik the other week, and has not been on here since Rik died.

[jock1056]

I have to ask, what happened to nugget??

He claimed to have a long Facebook conversation with Rik the other week, and has not been on here since Rik died.

or justinlight.??

[kerravon]

justinstephens.blogspot.com (nugget's blog) has not been updated in a month. Hope he's okay too. Just thinking he could shed some light on all this, since he talked to Rik.

[frankanne]

Also Eric DuBays blog has Rik's stuff, I think. I'll try to find the link.

[frankanne]

ok, fair enough. Im sure your reasons are valid.

You mention that other sites are carrying on his work, Could you post some links please.

You'll find Riks work in the 'Rik Clay - his research will live on' thread. It's a sticky in the Today section.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34593

Also Justin's site, screen name 'Nugget'

http://www.justinstephens.info/

[jos08]

I think we need (nugget) justin to tell us what happened .. because he spoke to him and he said that he can't reveal what they talked about but now he can since all these speculations and conspiracies are coming up.

[frankanne]

I think we need (nugget) justin to tell us what happened .. because he spoke to him and he said that he can't reveal what they talked about but now he can since all these speculations and conspiracies are coming up.

Yes, I agree. I think I'll send him a private message and ask him to come on the forum.

[zeptepi]

the German version is down...


http://thecosmicmindgerman.blogspot.com (http://thecosmicmindgerman.blogspot.com)

[strt]

the German version is down...


http://thecosmicmindgerman.blogspot.com (http://thecosmicmindgerman.blogspot.com)

This is happening so fast :( Time to download and print all data you want to keep guys.

[frankanne]

http://www.rediceforum.com/openforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=0f925b72fbe4cd07617b662a03c99b b3&topic=341.27

There’s an interesting post on the Red Ice Forum from a poster called RichyRich. He’s a newbey with 3 posts.

With the greatest amount of respect to his family, this reply was from his mother to me, when I emailed Jill Clay to express my condolences. I think it may be of some help for people to find answers.

Rik was undoubtedly a very, very connected man, he saw things no-one else could - i think we can all agree on that - perhaps there he saw something which was too much for him to take. Either way - the answer is below.

Dear Gill

I am sorry for your families loss, Rik was a very intelligent guy who had alot of energy about him. People have said it was suicide, but he did not seem like a sad guy or depressed, though when he stopped emailing me I asked him if he was ok, and he replied just once, saying "everythings ok, just sorting my head out. no need to worry, thanks"

So I did wonder, was he Ok?
Im sorry if this is painful for you and I do hope you understand my concern. I had a friend commit suicide when I was younger and it has dredged up old feeelings in me too, my thoughts go out to you and yours.

Loving thoughts
Richard
________________________________________

Hi Richard,

Thanks for getting in touch - its very comforting to us to talk to people who knew and connected with Rik.

Rik did take his own life - and I suppose the answer to the question why, is that he felt he could do no more here - his work was done and he was ready to move on - A decision I totally respect - we had talked the day before about self responsibility (although not in the context of death but health decisons - he wanted to fix himself and the world) and I know this was entirely his decision and no one coudl have done more to change that - he knew he was loved very much by lots of people - he died very peacefully and is no doubt now making the most of his new situation (probably talking the hind legs of any passing angel).

I was strugglingto understand as well and felt Rik would have left me a clue somewhere as he adamantly denied that he had ever felt suicidal - I Found all the answers in his web history which stored all his google questions for the last 2 yrs minute by minute hour by hour and day by day.

I have always been very connected with Rik in a spiritual way and now something beautiful will now come of this - I will use all the energy from my grief to make sure Riks message of free thinking love, peace and community is spread far and wide.

I am very proud that my Son was such a loving light on this earth, I'm sure he will continue to shine.

Jill

x
----

So there you have it. Apologies if Jill reads this - i did ask her to come on these forums but obviously she probably has more important things to do right now, which i can totally understand.

peace
posted by Richyrich

[bombtrack]

the German version is down...


http://thecosmicmindgerman.blogspot.com (http://thecosmicmindgerman.blogspot.com)

Sorry about that. I have take it down by myself, because there was no response on that and for some personal reasons. At this time i´m a bit confused and i have some feels of senselessness of all about live.
Maybe i put it back another time, maybe not...

Rik´s dead shocked me so much and that by the fact, that i don´t know him well - i hope he´s well on the place where ever he is and i´m sure he is! ;):p

All good to you Rik and your Family, and all good to you at this Forum.

Bye

[frankanne]

Coast To Coast AM - Jun 09 2008 - Hour 1

Jordan Maxwell -

"I've never been this frightened"

"I'm really scared"

"I am now living in fear"

"I don't know what I'm going to do"

"Yes, I believe in God"

Worth listening to it all but if you are impatient FFWD to 35 Mins.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9TWVYQZ5


I've tried listening to this, but can't seem to be able to get it. I've downloaded the magaupload stuff, but no good. Do you have to be a subscriber to listen to this? Or is there another link to hear the interview?

Cheers, anyone.

[zeptepi]

I've tried listening to this, but can't seem to be able to get it. I've downloaded the magaupload stuff, but no good. Do you have to be a subscriber to listen to this? Or is there another link to hear the interview?

Cheers, anyone.
It works ok for me. You don't have to be a subscriber to listen.
Just go to MegaUpload, enter the 3 letter code, wait 45 secs, click on the Free Download, then click Save to Disk when prompted & Bob's yer Uncle, the mp3 is ready to be listened to from wherever you saved it on your Hard Drive.
Hope that helps! [& sorry if I'm stating the obvious.] It is a very interesting interview.

[frankanne]

It works ok for me. You don't have to be a subscriber to listen.
Just go to MegaUpload, enter the 3 letter code, wait 45 secs, click on the Free Download, then click Save to Disk when prompted & Bob's yer Uncle, the mp3 is ready to be listened to from wherever you saved it on your Hard Drive.
Hope that helps! [& sorry if I'm stating the obvious.] It is a very interesting interview.

Thank you zeptepi. And no, you are not stating the obvious, not to me anyway. Total download idiot that I am.

Trouble is my computer has hardly any memory, or hard-drive capacity. So I've been told. It's very slow, so I don't really want to download stuff. Is there anyway of just listening, without downloading? You know, like on youtube? I don't have to download to listen to some things.

[zeptepi]

Thank you zeptepi. And no, you are not stating the obvious, not to me anyway. Total download idiot that I am.

Trouble is my computer has hardly any memory, or hard-drive capacity. So I've been told. It's very slow, so I don't really want to download stuff. Is there anyway of just listening, without downloading? You know, like on youtube? I don't have to download to listen to some things.

You can only download from Megaupload and not stream unfortunately. :(
But it is up on youtube! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6aUQ5v28c

[frankanne]

You can only download from Megaupload and not stream unfortunately. :(
But it is up on youtube! :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl6aUQ5v28c

Thank you zeptepi, much appreciated.

[lostinstrangeworld]

I don't know much about Rik Clay, but this sounds fascinating. I'm listening to an interview here:

http://odeo.com/episodes/19401263-Rik-Clay-The-Cosmic-Mind-Q-A

[blondina1]

Noticing that so many of you have closed down your blogs/websites. If any of you wish to write/publish but anonymously we're (justonemind.com) willing to post it.

[1freethinker]

makes no sense for me...he has nothing and now hes scared. Had everything 40 years ago and didnt care? talking about Jordan obviously...

[synergy777]

http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=4789

Rik Clay’s interviews on Red Ice Creations – All Four Segments
2008 09 12

By Henrik Palmgren | redicecreations.com

Here we make available all the four segments of radio interviews that Red Ice Creations did with Rik Clay back in June 2008.

Rik Clay took his own life on August the 28th. His remains was scattered Thursday, September the 11th and now when things have settled down a little bit, it’s a good time to make these interviews available for everyone who haven’t yet been able to hear them.


Rik Clay - The Cosmic Mind: Zion 2012 Olympics
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/06jun/RICR-080608.php

Researcher Rik Clay who is behind the blog "The Cosmic Mind" joins us to discuss his findings about the Zion Olympics in London leading up to the end game year 2012. Rik presents his thesis in this very interesting two segment program. We begin to discuss how RIk got into the subject matter and then go into the connection with numerology and synchronicity. Topics Discussed: 11:11, pyramid numerology, Solar Eclipse, September Eleventh, The Birth of Christ, Zion, Summer Olympics 1972 Münich, 1984 Los Angeles, Eye Symbolism, Corporate Symbolism, Joining of Islam and Christianity, Angel Gabriel, William Blake, Wally Olins and much more. Join us in the members section as we continue our discussion with Rik about the 2012 Olympics and how this event in a ritualistic way is connect with zion and the "end game messiah".

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Rik Clay - The Cosmic Mind: The End Game Messiah of 2012
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/06jun/RICR-080608-SUB.php

We continue our fascinating discussion with Rik Clay about his thesis on the 2012 Zion Olympics and how this connects with the trinity of the "new age" and how an "end game messiah" will be presented to us around 2012. Topics Discussed: Precession, Astrological Ages, Religion, Transition of the Ages, A Trinity Event, Osiris-Isis-Horus, New World Order of the Ages, Diana, Galadriel, Ritual Murder of Diana, Prince William as the new Sun King, Haiti Massacre, Port-au-Prince, Olympics Rings, Atlantis, Religion of the New World Order, the significance of 7, Chakra System, New Spirituality, Egyptian Roots of Star Religion, the End of the World and much more

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Rik Clay - The Cosmic Mind: Q & A
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/06jun/RICR-080612.php

We invite Rik Clay from "The Cosmic Mind" back to the program to follow up on the show did last Sunday. This time we have a questions and answers session. We begin to talk about the some feedback on the last program we did and about "rules" and restrictions you have to adjust to when you're making the kind of connections that Rik is making. We discuss the Greek origins of the Olympic games, the opening ceremonies and the symbolism involved in the games. Topics Discussed: Tibet, Dalai Lama, The Orange, Rose and Saffron Revolution, Rituals, Ley lines, Energy, TV coverage, Age of Aquarious, Water, Global Warming, "X Marks the spot", 666 and XXX, Nazi Olympics 1936, Alien Contact, Movies, Diana, Project Bluebeam and much more. Join us in our second segment as we'll discuss more about project Bluebeam, the fake alien invasion, technological advancement, mind control and the different levels of reality. Don't miss our excellent continuation of this program with Rik Clay

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Rik Clay - The Cosmic Mind: Q & A Continued
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/06jun/RICR-080612-SUB.php

We continue our interesting questions and answers session with Rik Clay and talk more about project Blue beam, the fake alien invasion, how technological advancement varies in different fields, mind control technology, cell phone and tetra masts and the different levels of reality. Topics Discussed: 11, The Oscars, I am Legend, Ben Hur, Charlton Heston, Omega Man, Blood, Bloodline, The Knights Templar, Composite Characters, Lily Wave, Prince William, The "merger" of empires though marriage, Alien Technology, Flying Saucers, Airline Technology, Loose Change, 9/11, Different levels of Reality, Consciousness, The News, Georgia Guide stones, Depopulation and much more

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A lot can be learned both from Rik’s research but also from his journey and this tragedy. We encourage you to listen to the two-hour program that Henrik Palmgren & Ian Crane did about Rik Clay’s death and the surrounding circumstances. This program was recorded the same day as Rik’s ashes was scattered. You can tune in to this program here:


Ian Crane - Rik Clay, Integration, Conspiracy & Spirituality
http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2008/09sep/RICR-080911.php

Ian Crane - Rik Clay, Integration, Conspiracy & Spirituality
September 11, 2008

We have Ian Crane back on the program for a two-hour special to discuss the passing of Rik Clay, Integration, Information, Awakening, Spirituality, Conspiracy and much more. We begin to discuss Rik Clay, we talk about what we so far know happened to him and how he passed away. We talk about the rumors of Rik being murdered, we talk about paranoia and premature conclusions in the "conspiracy movement". We move on to discuss the importance of a careful approach to esoteric, occult and conspiratorial subject matters and the important of integration of knowledge about the conspiracy as well as the spiritual side to all of this. Topics discussed: Transpersonal State, Awakening Process, Change, Research, Internet, Communication, Soul Returning, Healthy Balance, Messiah Complex, Midlife Opportunity, Drugs, Shamanic Journey, Alcohol, Spiritual Entities, Temporary possession, Geopolitics, The Journey vs. Speed, Gurdjieff, Terrence McKenna, Time wave Zero, Jose Arguelles, 2012, Jeff Stray, Destruction of Knowledge, Christianity, Renaissance and much more

[friendsinthesky]

Can someone with time and creativity, grab Rik's redice interviews and turn them into youtube clips with respective images as the topic/s discuss...

[zeptepi]

There's a post on the Red Ice Forum from sweatyk regarding his correspondence with Rik's father for those interested...
http://www.rediceforum.com/openforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=351726f98eeb49cb77b20c8611e48d e1&topic=341.54

[frankanne]

There's a post on the Red Ice Forum from sweatyk regarding his correspondence with Rik's father for those interested...
http://www.rediceforum.com/openforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=351726f98eeb49cb77b20c8611e48d e1&topic=341.54

Thanks for that zeptepi. I've posted on that forum, basically Rik's timeline to when his blog got pulled down.

So the timeline goes like this:

12th June 2008, Rik does the Redice interview. He's upbeat, happy, looking forward to revealing more stuff.

13th June 2008. 8.24am he's posting, happily

9.51am, he's posting again happily, promising 'full expose of the music industry coming soon'.

His father said that he suddenly came down with adrenal problems? and
"it's total shutdown and he doesn't have the capacity to even contemplate going on the web.."

Yet Rik's blog came down on the 13th June 2008. So if Rik suddenly became so ill that day, after posting that he was going to reveal stuff, so ill that he didn't have the capacity to contemplate going on the web - then who took down his blog?

[synergy777]

the work rik published in the public forum was not enough to send him over the edge, it wasn't deep occult etc, it was critical/creative thought. so henrik with his analysis is wrong imho. why rik committed suicide we might not ever know. he seemed a talented man, he had a good job, good friends, and a good social life. the real reasons are not known to us, thus speculation to me, seems like people like henrik are gloating over his death eg he couldn't handle the truth, unlike us professional researchers etc. personally, rik done more work than henrik and crane. i mean come on what half these researchers do is pure theatre, they are living in fantasy land, crop cirlces, channeled information, ripping old vedic concepts and passing it of as there own.

how many of them offer pragmatic and intelligent discourse?

the thing is rik's work resonated with the average person/common man. we could see his work and relate to it. that is what i am, i am a common man, average bloke, the masses, a sheep etc. all these researchers are frankly up their own arseholes and are detached from the reality of the masses. they pontificate about how they know the truth and they don't know much. i have connected more dots than most of the researchers, and yet most don't even see the connections, not even the famous researchers. see the thing is what we do, is for all of us, its about bringing the info to everyone, not being snobby and saying the sheep do not know this, they cannot handle the truth, that is bullshit to be frank. do not underestimate the intelligence and compassion of the masses, we are the masses, we are not seperate from them. too many researchers sell out, get all elitest and look down onto the masses/amateur researchers like me, rik, us etc.

i like red ice, but too much worshipping of false idols eg researchers with flashy websites is going on. trust in ourselves and our own ability, respect yourself and eachother. half of these reserachers are disinfo, payrolled to keep us apart and in conflict with eachother.

has henrik, ian crane etc pointed out the mistakes in riks work, have they given us a critical analysis, no. judge them by their fruits/works/actions. they all say this is wrong etc, but what do they offer?

i didn't know rik that well, but someone has to defend his honour from these snobby slandering researchers, they are acting like vultures, there time is over.

[synergy777]

we should share openly, treat everyone the same. some researchers do not, some do but most i think are like, how can i say it. this stuff is their last chance at being someone, a type of conspiracy culture celeb. they pretend they do not believe in fame, power, etc, but they love it. snobbery comes from arrogance/insecurity. everybody to a degree loves to be loved, famous, its an ego trip.

me i am too stubborn, single minded to give a hoot, lol, as long as the job gets done, who cares about the fame/credit, its all about results, eg us the people winning, and liberating ourselves, and living in peace. everything else is secondary, the main objective is winning.

to be honest this stuff comes easy to me, hence sometimes i am right, sometimes i am wrong. but we need to all contribute, thus helping eachother to improve, to fine tune our data, to increase its accuracy. it should be inclusive not exclusive.

its a team effort this time, not a mission for one poor soul. its too big, too much responsibility to expect one person to have all the answers, do everything. we have to help aswell. think about, all the previous times, krishna, buddha, yashuah, were on solo missions, and the elite beat them.

this time we cannot fail, failure is not an option. thus we must take collective responsibility and unite, we have the power, we just don't have the self belief, self confidence in ourselves. we don't have trust in ourselves and we don't trust eachother.

we must change this.

[goldman]

@synergy777

I read your post 3 times now :confused:

[synergy777]

i just posted it to give a more balanced view, sorry.

[goldman]

Oh I thought it was some bug in the forum ;):D

[edelweiss pirate]

As a reader of Rik's Blog and his posts on here, I'm a bit worried, his site http://thecosmicmind.blogspot.com/ (http://thecosmicmind.blogspot.com/) is down, and he's not posted here for a while. Let us know your ok Rik. This is worring me because of the bloggers getting arrested http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7456357.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7456357.stm)


Did he post here? What was his tag?

Does anyone know if Rik went through a Kundalini enlightenment? I nearly threw myself out of my bedroom window when I went through mine....

Does anyone know what he was going through?

[simplify]

i just posted it to give a more balanced view, sorry.

Thank you synergy: very well said & with great insight. Seems like many people would like to sweep Rik's life & work under the rug....hmmmmmmmmmm:rolleyes:

[lordofangels]

Did he post here? What was his tag?

Does anyone know if Rik went through a Kundalini enlightenment? I nearly threw myself out of my bedroom window when I went through mine....

Does anyone know what he was going through?



Best advice i can give is read every post of Rik's, follow the full story,
then see what your own conclusion is to his apparent suicide.

[edelweiss pirate]

Best advice i can give is read every post of Rik's, follow the full story,
then see what your own conclusion is to his apparent suicide.

I'm going to listen to his red ice shows and see if I can tell where he was at.....

Any clues would be nice? Anyone? Any evidence one way or another?

[jock1056]

Theres still a few questions to be answered on thread . Ps nugget justinlight or whoever you are was? Were are you?

[americana]

Best advice i can give is read every post of Rik's, follow the full story,
then see what your own conclusion is to his apparent suicide.

Yes, right. But when someone is dead, it's hard to be cool and detached about it, which is what MAY be needed for textual analysis.

HOW he presented his work is maybe just as important here as the meaning of the words themselves.

His "titles" of posts here are attention-grabbers. Words like "porn" are also used to get people to read them. I am not saying anything against Rik, I am just stating this. Then there are links to his blog in each post. You MIGHT think, initially, that he was here simply to drive traffic to his blog.

In his posts, he also thanks people for their comments, which speaks well to me about the sort of person he is/ was.

I'll have to read his "blog" again . . . but my first thought is that it's pretty damn well laid out. Leads from one point to the other, clearly. The expository style is excellent.

Perhaps you've had an experience where words just flowed as you wrote or typed. Jacques Lacan would have it that we don't speak, we are spoken. In essence, we don't write, we are WRITTEN.

I would be very interested in knowing what Rik Clay's "typical" style of writing was. I am by no means saying that Rik did not write his blog. I am just wondering if or how it was similar/ different to his school essays, college essays, other writing.

Okay, last weekend I read an article in The New York Review of Books concerning a "memoir" written by the father of a young woman who is manic depressive.

Please don't jump to conclusions that what I am saying here is at all negative when it comes to Rik. I am not trying to diagnose him or to make any implications about his state of mind.

HOWEVER, just in reading this review and one in Time magazine, I was struck by some thoughts regarding Rik.

This young woman, 15 at the time of her first episode, was staying up all night and writing all over poems by Shakespeare. She was seeing so many meanings and linkages. She began to have amazing insights about people each having their own brand of genius which is often repressed. Then, one fatal day, she began approaching individuals on the street, feeling a need to speak to them about her ideas. She apparantly tried to run into traffic and a friend stopped her.

She was institutionalized for a time. Medicated . . .. and you just know the story from here.

In any case, it would seem that in a very short period of time, a girl who before seemed not really that exceptional, according to her father, became the medium, the means for some extroardinary insights.

And the kibosh was put on it, post-haste.

I'd like to read the book itself to find out more, but I was intrigued by parallels I saw, just generally, in the situation.

[frankanne]

It was on the 5th August that Nugget said:

Last friday I had a chat with Rik on facebook again... conversation took up most of the afternoon.

Obviously as it was chat over the net I cant be 100% sure it was him. Although he seemed 'genuine'.

I said I wouldnt pass on the full details of what happened to him, but it does seem he was in a bad way. A situation which messed his head up a bit... and if true then I can fully understand.

He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him. He did say he had much more info to put out there, so hopefully I can get him to pass some of this stuff on.

He also said the reason he didnt post on the forum was because it had already blown up on here and thought that nobody would belive him even if he did explain.

We talked about Crop circles, Music, Ayaushca... Alsorts.

Dont get me wrong, im still skeptical as I am with everything. But the conversation did clear a few things up for me.

hmmm who knows. I will see if he wants to chat on the phone at some point so we can be sure.

Anyway... I have put parts 1 & 2 of his redice interview on my blog for those who have not heard it yet.
http://justinstephens.info
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Nugget, Justin, has been sort of 'missing' since then. strange eh?

[pri01]

I'm sorry but I never read his blogg so I don't have an idea of his thoughts. How can I access the blogg if it has been removed?

[titan]

It was on the 5th August that Nugget said:

Last friday I had a chat with Rik on facebook again... conversation took up most of the afternoon.

Obviously as it was chat over the net I cant be 100% sure it was him. Although he seemed 'genuine'.

I said I wouldnt pass on the full details of what happened to him, but it does seem he was in a bad way. A situation which messed his head up a bit... and if true then I can fully understand.

He said it feels like hes lost his perception of things at the moment and only time will tell if this all comes back to him. He did say he had much more info to put out there, so hopefully I can get him to pass some of this stuff on.

He also said the reason he didnt post on the forum was because it had already blown up on here and thought that nobody would belive him even if he did explain.

We talked about Crop circles, Music, Ayaushca... Alsorts.

Dont get me wrong, im still skeptical as I am with everything. But the conversation did clear a few things up for me.

hmmm who knows. I will see if he wants to chat on the phone at some point so we can be sure.

Anyway... I have put parts 1 & 2 of his redice interview on my blog for those who have not heard it yet.
http://justinstephens.info
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Nugget, Justin, has been sort of 'missing' since then. strange eh?

It is frankanne. Not a good feeling about this. I cannot access Justin's work on Rik Clay either.

[americana]

I went to Red Ice to listen to Rik's interview, but I would have to download it first?!! Does anyone know of any Internet sites that have his Red Ice interview, but I can just play it?


Any word from NUGGET?

[frankanne]

I went to Red Ice to listen to Rik's interview, but I would have to download it first?!! Does anyone know of any Internet sites that have his Red Ice interview, but I can just play it?


Any word from NUGGET?


there's no word from Nugget as far as I can tell.

I wanted to get the police involved for Rik, but was told NO.

Shall we get the police involved with Nugget?

[frankanne]

And another thing. Why are we hidden away, - UNDER THE RANT ROOM NO LESS.

Like we are being hidden in a cellar somewhere.

Who did this?

Who did this to Rik?

Who did this to the people who want to highlight and bring into the open what happened to him?

Who hid us away in the cellar?

Mods? Was it you? Or were you under orders?

[frankanne]

Don't you realise what you do to people when you hide them away?

Don't you know that is ABUSE?

[friendsinthesky]

And another thing. Why are we hidden away, - UNDER THE RANT ROOM NO LESS.

Like we are being hidden in a cellar somewhere.

Who did this?

Who did this to Rik?

Who did this to the people who want to highlight and bring into the open what happened to him?

Who hid us away in the cellar?

Mods? Was it you? Or were you under orders?

Yeah fuck it! I thought it was obvious but this shit has gotta stop! Do you think Icke would be placed under the rant room? Do you think whom ever put this under the rant room would want the same for themself? Further more, how do "they" think Rik would be feeling - knowing what the mods think of his work? Disgusting behaviour!

[london_lad_84]

I understand and respect rick clays family to state there was no suspiscious activitiy surrounding his death, they do not want any further trouble from illuminati lackies after ricks murder.

Anyone who listens to rick clays interview on red ice, or views his many photos can see he is a bubbly character who appears to live life to the maximum. He was attuned to reiki and looked like a healthy 26 year old.

It is suspicious when the above type person becomes stressed, very ill and commits suicde soon after revealing publicly new information about illuminati plans. A man who is intelligent, charasmatic, who has an ability to connect and deliver fantastic research while engaging interest from viewers is a dangerous threat to the supression of facts that the illuminati have an instinctual desire to do.

I read on another thread that the podcast by rik clay was available without the discussion about Diana representing a new world Isis and William doing the same with Horus in the Trinity. This was removed because it is the most revealing information rik clay spoke of in public and was probably a main reason for his execution.

This single case of a public speaker revealing esoteric knowledge is suspect, however when combined with several others who have done similar things and died soon afterwards... As rik so graciously put it during the red ice interview "What is this thing called chance?".

Rik you were and always will be an inspirition.

[london_lad_84]

Why has rik clays work been removed twice by the website host?

On a redice interview on september 11, the presenter said a friend of riks told him that rik began to lose his mind in june which led to him commiting suicide in august.

That information does not remove the gut feeling i have that rik was murdered.

[titan]

I understand and respect rick clays family to state there was no suspiscious activitiy surrounding his death, they do not want any further trouble from illuminati lackies after ricks murder.

Anyone who listens to rick clays interview on red ice, or views his many photos can see he is a bubbly character who appears to live life to the maximum. He was attuned to reiki and looked like a healthy 26 year old.

It is suspicious when the above type person becomes stressed, very ill and commits suicde soon after revealing publicly new information about illuminati plans. A man who is intelligent, charasmatic, who has an ability to connect and deliver fantastic research while engaging interest from viewers is a dangerous threat to the supression of facts that the illuminati have an instinctual desire to do.

I read on another thread that the podcast by rik clay was available without the discussion about Diana representing a new world Isis and William doing the same with Horus in the Trinity. This was removed because it is the most revealing information rik clay spoke of in public and was probably a main reason for his execution.

This single case of a public speaker revealing esoteric knowledge is suspect, however when combined with several others who have done similar things and died soon afterwards... As rik so graciously put it during the red ice interview "What is this thing called chance?".

Rik you were and always will be an inspirition.


well said ...

also, i did not know that the Trinity stuff had been removed....hmm

[jock1056]

Free canada are you o.k

[le chuck]

Just read all this about Ric , i will do my best to keep his work going in other forums and phone in radio shows, i will print as many copys as possible to pass around and post, it's the least i can do for a great man who was Ric Clay.


1 by 1 the Good die young.:(

[susano]

Two nights ago, after following a link from GLP, I sat and read this whole thread. It was like a page turner book that I couldn't put down. I have not read any of the other threads, so I don't know any further details than what is posted here.

I just wanted to say how impressed I was by a handful of posters who pressed so hard to follow up on the whereabouts and well being of this amazing young man. The poster "Free Canada" especially comes to mind.

I look forward to reading more, here.

[humito]

does anyone think that rik was targetted by some sort of emf ? this could explain his mental state and be instrumental in his death . RIP RIK...............here is a link for riks research on SCRIBD...........

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7656562/The-NWO-Zion-Plans

[indigochild2012]

http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=136700249685397

If anyone still checks this thread... I hope you do!
This is a facebook group based on Riks work and for continuing it... I believe it was of huge significance and importance. <3

[verndewd]

http://www.rediceforum.com/openforum/index.php?PHPSESSID=0f925b72fbe4cd07617b662a03c99b b3&topic=341.27

There’s an interesting post on the Red Ice Forum from a poster called RichyRich. He’s a newbey with 3 posts.

With the greatest amount of respect to his family, this reply was from his mother to me, when I emailed Jill Clay to express my condolences. I think it may be of some help for people to find answers.

Rik was undoubtedly a very, very connected man, he saw things no-one else could - i think we can all agree on that - perhaps there he saw something which was too much for him to take. Either way - the answer is below.

Dear Gill

I am sorry for your families loss, Rik was a very intelligent guy who had alot of energy about him. People have said it was suicide, but he did not seem like a sad guy or depressed, though when he stopped emailing me I asked him if he was ok, and he replied just once, saying "everythings ok, just sorting my head out. no need to worry, thanks"

So I did wonder, was he Ok?
Im sorry if this is painful for you and I do hope you understand my concern. I had a friend commit suicide when I was younger and it has dredged up old feeelings in me too, my thoughts go out to you and yours.

Loving thoughts
Richard
________________________________________

Hi Richard,

Thanks for getting in touch - its very comforting to us to talk to people who knew and connected with Rik.

Rik did take his own life - and I suppose the answer to the question why, is that he felt he could do no more here - his work was done and he was ready to move on - A decision I totally respect - we had talked the day before about self responsibility (although not in the context of death but health decisons - he wanted to fix himself and the world) and I know this was entirely his decision and no one coudl have done more to change that - he knew he was loved very much by lots of people - he died very peacefully and is no doubt now making the most of his new situation (probably talking the hind legs of any passing angel).

I was strugglingto understand as well and felt Rik would have left me a clue somewhere as he adamantly denied that he had ever felt suicidal - I Found all the answers in his web history which stored all his google questions for the last 2 yrs minute by minute hour by hour and day by day.

I have always been very connected with Rik in a spiritual way and now something beautiful will now come of this - I will use all the energy from my grief to make sure Riks message of free thinking love, peace and community is spread far and wide.

I am very proud that my Son was such a loving light on this earth, I'm sure he will continue to shine.

Jill

x
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So there you have it. Apologies if Jill reads this - i did ask her to come on these forums but obviously she probably has more important things to do right now, which i can totally understand.

peace
posted by Richyrich

no body questioned the mothers odd reaction? As far as I know acceptance isnt the first reaction for the suicide of such a young bright kid.

that reply stinks to high hell. Sorry for drudging up old posts , but NO ONE thought the alleged moms reaction was out of place.

Just all of the sudden a vehemently anti suicide mind decides suicide is acceptable? if I was his dad I would have been consumed with all the opportunities hed missed to figure his way out of suicide.

But mom says it was ok because he went peacefully? Do people actually buy that story?

[indigochild2012]

I dont buy it, I believe there was suspicious circumstances around Riks death, even some kind of messing with his mind remotely. Perhaps a Kundalini awakening someone suggested. He practiced Reiki and yoga? This can be a powerful experience.
Who knows. It seems anyone who makes a claim or sees things differently and goes public suddenly dies. And then nothing is ever done or investigated.
Makes me sick.

[kimone]

Why has rik clays work been removed twice by the website host?

On a redice interview on september 11, the presenter said a friend of riks told him that rik began to lose his mind in june which led to him commiting suicide in august.

That information does not remove the gut feeling i have that rik was murdered.

just like dr kelly..i dont know much about rik clay so i had better start looking at his work.

[photovoltaik]

I hope he is allright. Be think positive.......http://sunrent.de/smileynormal.ico

[beldazar]

I hope he is allright. Be think positive.......http://sunrent.de/smileynormal.ico

Who Rik? Bit late for that sadly :(

[jock1056]

No way this thread should be on page 2 if anyone believes ricks death was suspect they should this thread .so bump

[twelve]

This thread is creepy for me because for ages I was having weird dreams about the Olympics, to the point I stopped drinking any tea, coffee, anything which would make my heart race before bed, they still happened but less often, haven't had one since Jan,

Anyway, been doing a bit of research and cannot get away from July 22nd being significant, but would they do something 5 days before the launch?

Perhaps, gives reason to the name "The peace games" I came across a few times.

July 22nd in the past;

Norway attacks
Jean Charles de Menezes Killed.
Uday and Qusay Hussein killed.
Israel killed Salah Shahade
A lot of WW2 events, including some Holocaust.
King David hotel bombed,

So, thoughts people? Am going to keep looking into dates, 22nd July just seems to be on fire. not so much other dates, just can't work out why.