Story of the Woolworth Building Incident on 9/11 [Archive]

real6

10-02-2010, 03:38 PM

Pics and Gifs in the Link:

http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_911_41.htm

Quotes Relating to a

Missile Firing Off the Roof of the Woolworth Building

"Someone had fired missiles at the World Trade Center's north tower from atop the nearby Woolworth Building."
WNBC News

"...we just had a second explosion, possibly a missile from the roof of the Woolworth Building."
Port Authority Police Officer
WNBC News

"They're shooting at the Trade Center from the Woolworth Building."
Radio Dispatch
NY Daily News

"The first one they think was a guy shooting the missiles off the Woolworth Building."
WTC Police Channel 07
Mercury News

"Woolworth Building! They're firing missiles from Woolworth Building!"
Police Channel
Portland Inymedia

"...there was a missile launch at the Woolworth building."
Police Officer, 09:18AM
Mailgate News

"...the police had a report that a missile had been fired at the World Trade Center from the Woolworth building."
Alan Reiss, WTC Police Desk
9-11 Commission Hearing

"[About 50 yards from the Tower] There was a 'swooshing' sound, then an explosion, and it sounded really low. It was if someone, one or two floors above me, had launched a shoulder-fired missile."
Lance Cpl. Alan Reifenberg
Marine Corps News

As we pulled ‘round the corner, we stopped the rig, and a cop walked over to us and said, `I saw them shoot a missile launcher off that [Woolworth] building, you guys better be careful up there.’
NYC Fireman
Mr.Bellers Neighborhood

"...the police had a report that a missile had been fired at the World Trade Center from the Woolworth building."

Alan Reiss, WTC Police Desk
9-11 Commission Hearing
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"The Woolworth Building! The Woolworth Building! They're shooting at the Trade Center from the Woolworth Building!" a police officer screams. ... "There's fucking explosions going off on Vesey street!" another officer yells. NY POST (08-29-03):
we just had a second explosion, possibly a missile from the roof of the Woolworth Building."
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World Trade Center police channel 07:

Male: “The first one they think was a guy shooting the missiles off the Woolworth Building. And the second one they think is an airplane that was circling to watch it, and hit the World Trade….”
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"Can you send somebody over to the Woolworth Building to check the roof?" a Port Authority police officer asked. "There's a possible ... they said it was ... we just had a second explosion, possibly a missile from the roof of the Woolworth Building."

"The Woolworth Building?" replied a police operator.

"`Yeah, on ... on Broadway," the officer said.

Transcripts created from tapes of Port Authority emergency calls and radio transmissions.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread182724/pg1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c2fJtdX_tA

http://www.youtube.com/v/9c2fJtdX_tA

icarus

10-02-2010, 03:50 PM

Ha fuck it, yeah why not. A possible I reckon, but 9/11 for me is done and dusted, we know the culprits so the hows and whens are irrelevant as far as I am concerned, it stinks to high heaven of corruption.

i agree. there's more than enough evidence, and the silver bullet does not exist. the cattle public are not suddenly going to wake up and realise they are being hunted to extinction by supremacists who consider them to be animals

besides, 911 will soon be eclipsed by much bigger events. it's doubtful whether they can be stopped at this point.

subl1minal

10-02-2010, 03:57 PM

The planes were holograms man, blatantly. You can see on the video just as the plane hits the building, it goes in the building with no markings outside whatsoever, then boom!

real6

10-02-2010, 04:17 PM

besides, 911 will soon be eclipsed by much bigger events. it's doubtful whether they can be stopped at this point.

You can say that again..

wakeup2nwo

10-02-2010, 05:05 PM

great thread!

ive just came across this video.. very interesting

Laser Targeting UAV, Evidence of Military Technology on 9/11 (original)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr4BJ89Df5Q

verndewd

10-02-2010, 07:13 PM

i agree. there's more than enough evidence, and the silver bullet does not exist. the cattle public are not suddenly going to wake up and realise they are being hunted to extinction by supremacists who consider them to be animals

besides, 911 will soon be eclipsed by much bigger events. it's doubtful whether they can be stopped at this point.

exactly. Any more i am of the opinion that if people arent just gathering in the streets to talk about solutions in mass, then we arent there yet; flip a coin ; which will happen first, global governance or people getting out of their homes and joing in a coommon brotherhood?

too late , the former has already been put in place.

realy

10-02-2010, 07:39 PM

realy

10-02-2010, 07:42 PM

The planes were holograms man, blatantly. You can see on the video just as the plane hits the building, it goes in the building with no markings outside whatsoever, then boom!

john lear thinks they were holograms also.

subl1minal

10-02-2010, 07:47 PM

john lear thinks they were holograms also.

Yeah I saw his interview with Project Camelot.

There's a video where there is no plane just an explosion and whilst it happens, the people don't mention another plane hitting the building, just another 'explosion'

I think when we delve deep into what's possible and the technology they possibly have. The idea is not so far-fetched anymore.

icarus

10-02-2010, 07:56 PM

some events just seem to get forgotten

like the odd scare on canary wharf on 7/7, something about bombers shot dead

who were they, why were they shot?

icarus

10-02-2010, 08:00 PM

exactly. Any more i am of the opinion that if people arent just gathering in the streets to talk about solutions in mass, then we arent there yet; flip a coin ; which will happen first, global governance or people getting out of their homes and joing in a coommon brotherhood?

too late , the former has already been put in place.

going by another thread with a video of jim corr, and an audience baying for more security to keep them safe, including being scanned naked, i'd say the former as well, sadly :(

frase

10-02-2010, 08:37 PM

some events just seem to get forgotten

like the odd scare on canary wharf on 7/7, something about bombers shot dead

who were they, why were they shot?

oh yes indeed....
Something definitely went down at Canaryh Wharf.....
http://mtrial.org/201009-what-happened-canary-wharf-7th-july-2005

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=10334992

frase

10-02-2010, 08:41 PM

Not to bring up past shit but what do people think of this?

Im just curious!!!

http://www.orbwar.com/woolworth/

WOW man!!
This is incredible, and all mainstream sources too...
never heard this before......

frase

10-02-2010, 08:43 PM

What about the people in new York who actually saw the planes with their own two eyes going into the building?

azureangel

11-02-2010, 07:29 AM

This is very interesting. I think any new information about the 9-11 SNAFU is important. Thank you for posting!
Love, angel :D

verndewd

11-02-2010, 07:46 AM

The planes were holograms man, blatantly. You can see on the video just as the plane hits the building, it goes in the building with no markings outside whatsoever, then boom!

that was scary obvious on the second impact but the question remains can we validate that the technology exists?

joel1212

11-02-2010, 07:54 AM

What about the people in new York who actually saw the planes with their own two eyes going into the building?

ur question doesn't make sense. the only way it would is if you think holograms only show up on video camera and not in real life?
not saying i believe in the hologram theory

o_rourke

11-02-2010, 07:54 AM

The planes were holograms man, blatantly. You can see on the video just as the plane hits the building, it goes in the building with no markings outside whatsoever, then boom!

I don't doubt you because loads of shit has came out of this whole 9/11 thing to be proved as utter BS from the official records.

However, what I can't get my head around is the 'live' news reports that showed the planes hitting the towers.....one after the other during their live reports.

If what you say is true..................then the media of those first reports were also in on it. Otherwise, how could this all be live feed, holograms and all for the media to report it live as it was happening?

This is fckng scary stuff.

ben black

11-02-2010, 09:28 AM

However, what I can't get my head around is the 'live' news reports that showed the planes hitting the towers.....one after the other during their live reports.

The first one was never shown live - this is where Bush ufcked up when he said he saw the first plane hit. The first was not shown live on TV - the 2nd one was - when they had everyones attention and camera crews were filming the damage to the first.

When news channels first started getting reports they appeared to have no idea what caused it - saying it was a light aircraft to begin. How many people can confuse a cessna with a 747?

o_rourke

11-02-2010, 09:33 AM

The first one was never shown live - this is where Bush ufcked up when he said he saw the first plane hit. That was not live - the 2nd one was - when they had everyones attention.

When news channels first started getting reports they appeared to have no idea what caused it - saying it was a light aircraft to begin. How many people can confuse a cessna with a 747?

You could be right about that. I would be a terrible witness.

All I remember was that our family were on a trip to Florida and having the news on and someone in our family direct our attention to the news. They were showing a plane going into one of the towers (so you could well be right that it wasn't live).............and then whilst being stunned watching this, we then see the other plane going into the second tower (live......or apparently).

the lost

11-02-2010, 11:06 AM

When i 1st heard about the hologram plane theory i thought it was nothing but BS especially how some people have gone along with that theory and say that all victims were nothing but VICSIM's (victims that were made up to cash in on insurance claims)

But since looking at some videos on youtube i am very undecided about it (the holograms not the vicsim part which i find to be BS still). Im not sure if 'September Clues' is the video i originally seen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVLu8dC2N0s&annotation_id=annotation_696209&feature=iv but the nose in/nose out is suspect (btw i havent looked into the debunking side of the nose story) Also on the vid was something about the smoke coming from the towers and how the smoke was just a graphical repeat (hard to explain but the larger part of the smoke was just the same as the 1st part of the smoke but blown up and placed on the end)

If these two sequences were not altered and that is really how they looked on the original shots then it is truly damning.

September Clues Video (same as above)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVLu8dC2N0s&annotation_id=annotation_696209&feature=iv

nose in/out video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSWtnkicIo&feature=related

windeyaho

11-02-2010, 11:18 AM

What about the people in new York who actually saw the planes with their own two eyes going into the building?

I saw ghosts fly inside a Haunted Mansion at Disneyland years ago and they went through walls and around pillars. . . .all done with holograms. They were even appearing in the very cars we were riding as we traversed the tracks. Anything is possible in this current day of digital and laser imagery. It has been said that the second coming of Jesus will be a hologram in the sky. Also it is surmised that a red flag phony attack by aliens will be initiated the same way. Experimentation and probable implementation of 3D holograms is coming into vogue now (ie. Avatar). We LIVE in an illusion, why would it not be possible to create the illusions necessary to convince people of anything that TPTB wish to invent.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 11:37 AM

that was scary obvious on the second impact but the question remains can we validate that the technology exists?

Can we stop the hologram bollocks now.

It's been debunked to death.

Most people have no idea how a hologram works and think it's just like star trek.

It's not.. star trek is a sci-fi program.

It any of the hologram pushers can show us an example that even comes close to a image occupying REAL 3D space so that it looks the same from every conceivable angle then feel free to post it.

I'll save you some time... it doesn't exist.

Please don't waste time by posting stuff about holograms created using light reflected off a flat surface (the real hologram technology).

Please don't waste time with "well they have a huge budget so who knows what they have invented".

The science of holography is out there in the public domain.. there is no sniff of a real 3D techology which would be required on 9/11 to convince thousands of people from all kninds of locations in NYC.

Ye canna break the laws of physics Jim.

The woolworths reports are interesting but please... physical 3D holograms are impossible.

the lost

11-02-2010, 11:42 AM

Can we stop the hologram bollocks now.

It's been debunked to death.

Most people have no idea how a hologram works and think it's just like star trek.

It's not.. star trek is a sci-fi program.

It any of the hologram pushers can show us an example that even comes close to a image occupying REAL 3D space so that it looks the same from every conceivable angle then feel free to post it.

I'll save you some time... it doesn't exist.

Please don't waste time by posting stuff about holograms created using light reflected off a flat surface (the real hologram technology).

Please don't waste time with "well they have a huge budget so who knows what they have invented".

The science of holography is out there in the public domain.. there is no sniff of a real 3D techology which would be required on 9/11 to convince thousands of people from all kninds of locations in NYC.

Ye canna break the laws of physics Jim.

The woolworths reports are interesting but please... physical 3D holograms are impossible.

Dont some people say that military science is at least 20 years ahead of what we have today?

As i stated above i havent looked at the debunking side of the hologram, but i would like to see it, can you give me a link please

cheers :)

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 11:47 AM

Dont some people say that military science is at least 20 years ahead of what we have today?

As i stated above i havent looked at the debunking side of the hologram, but i would like to see it, can you give me a link please

cheers :)

I'm not doing it again. I'm sick of doing it. I've done it here before in this forum and in loads of other forums.

Do you know how a hologram works?

Find out (clue: It's a reflected beam of light).

Then think about how that could be applied to the sky of NYC so that thousands of people from every conceivable of angle could see a convincing 3D plane in the sky.

the lost

11-02-2010, 11:49 AM

I'm not doing it again. I'm sick of doing it. I've done it here before in this forum and in loads of other forums.

Do you know how a hologram works?

Find out (clue: It's a reflected beam of light).

Then think about how that could be applied to the sky of NYC so that thousands of people from every conceivable of angle could see a convincing 3D plane in the sky.

lol ok, i just thought you might have something i could read cause im too lazy to look for the debunking info myself :D

lynfowars

11-02-2010, 12:37 PM

I'm not keen on hologram theories, though I feel hologram tech exists, if only because of personal experience with real invisible entities that I just cannot accept was a 'ghost' or something equally unprovable.

But I have to say, I was VERY impressed with that plane nose-out shot. After all these years too.

I fell-off my chair when I saw the CNN feed also 'lost frames' during the same critical viewing period. Let's see Popular Mechanics screw that one...

Like it or not, the entire front end of that plane appears to exit the building unscathed on that feed.

Add to all this, the BBC fcking up by declaring WTC-7 downed when it was still standing there behind the reporter..

Wow, seems fun & games really were going on in the video department. This seems huge, just huge.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 12:53 PM

But I have to say, I was VERY impressed with that plane nose-out shot. After all these years too.

I fell-off my chair when I saw the CNN feed also 'lost frames' during the same critical viewing period. Let's see Popular Mechanics screw that one...

Like it or not, the entire front end of that plane appears to exit the building unscathed on that feed.

Absolutely 100% resoundingly debunked and debunking video is on Youtube.

(I think "nose out" in a Youtube search will get you the video).

September clues is a complete crock of shite.

"No plane" bollocks is all disinfo meant to muddy the waters about what happened at the Pentagon where a plane WAS involved but didn't smash into the building.

CIT (Citizens Investigation Team) have a great video where they spoke to the Pentagon witnesses on the spot where they witnessed the Pentagon plane and guess what.. there is NO WAY that plane knocked over those lamposts, in fact there found witnesses that say the plane flew over the Pentagon.

Craig Ranke is a legend - one of the few people in "the truth movement" who got off his ass and went and did some real investigation.

The CIT videos are awesome.

lynfowars

11-02-2010, 01:34 PM

the lost

11-02-2010, 02:01 PM

Absolutely 100% resoundingly debunked and debunking video is on Youtube.

(I think "nose out" in a Youtube search will get you the video).

September clues is a complete crock of shite.

"No plane" bollocks is all disinfo meant to muddy the waters about what happened at the Pentagon where a plane WAS involved but didn't smash into the building.

CIT (Citizens Investigation Team) have a great video where they spoke to the Pentagon witnesses on the spot where they witnessed the Pentagon plane and guess what.. there is NO WAY that plane knocked over those lamposts, in fact there found witnesses that say the plane flew over the Pentagon.

Craig Ranke is a legend - one of the few people in "the truth movement" who got off his ass and went and did some real investigation.

The CIT videos are awesome.

I have posted this video twice already on this board as i think it is the best thing to show the Sleeple that at least something was hidden from us on 911

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5FhQc-LJ-o
please watch this video and use it to show to people who think the government is telling the truth.

The video uses credible witnesses (police officers and army officers) and citizens who say that the plane did not take the course that the government inquiry said.

They use only info that would stand up in a court of law and they do not speculate, for example some witnesses say that it was an army plane, some say they seen a military plane fly oveer the pentagon after the explosion. They do not go into detail about this as they can not prove it and (i think) it would only be speculation that wouldnt stand up in court

This video comes from the site...

http://www.citizeninvestigationteam.com/

as amaralsright has already mentioned which has a rundown of the facts in the film (if you dont want to watch it)

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 03:16 PM

I just watched the YouTube video titled

9/11 Fake: Nose In, Nose Out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWSWtnkicIo

Is that the one you refer to? That video seems to back-up the premise that the Fox video was indeed doctored and does show a plane nose coming out of the other end (which can't happen right?)

Nope, this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bNomV_8034

real6

11-02-2010, 03:21 PM

The first one was never shown live - this is where Bush ufcked up when he said he saw the first plane hit. The first was not shown live on TV - the 2nd one was - when they had everyones attention and camera crews were filming the damage to the first.

That's kinda bullshit. Even thou there is no TV station that caught the first plane hitting, there is video of the first plane hitting!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/trade/video/x1ulbi_911-by-the-naudet-brothers-3-of-6_events

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 03:27 PM

the evidence from 9/11 piles on...... interesting stuff... too bad no one does anything about except a small group of people...

ben black

11-02-2010, 03:34 PM

That's kinda bullshit. Even thou there is no TV station that caught the first plane hitting, there is video of the first plane hitting!!!

http://www.dailymotion.com/relevance/search/trade/video/x1ulbi_911-by-the-naudet-brothers-3-of-6_events

Read my post again fella.

"The first was not shown live on TV"

I did not say that it had not been caught on camera - we have all seen the clips that show amateur footage from the first impact.

What I clearly stated was that the first impact was not broadcast LIVE.

lynfowars

11-02-2010, 03:37 PM

Nope, this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bNomV_8034

An interesting other-viewpoint on this, thanks.

real6

11-02-2010, 03:39 PM

Read my post again fella.

"The first was not shown live on TV"

I did not say that it had not been caught on camera - we have all seen the clips that show amateur footage from the first impact.

What I clearly stated was that the first impact was not broadcast LIVE.

Got you. hahahahha

But he did fuck up.

ben black

11-02-2010, 03:45 PM

Got you. hahahahha

But he did fuck up.

Actually - I should have put "What I clearly MEANT was that the first impact was not broadcast LIVE."

Either way - I don't go much for the hologram theory. If the technology was so advanced in 2001 that it could be used to fool the world into believing what we saw - why are there no more examples of hologram technology being used since?

If there are then I am unaware and I'd be happy to see any footage of hologram use.

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 03:46 PM

real6

11-02-2010, 03:49 PM

Actually - I should have put "What I clearly MEANT was that the first impact was not broadcast LIVE."

Either way - I don't go much for the hologram theory. If the technology was so advanced in 2001 that it could be used to fool the world into believing what we saw - why are there no more examples of hologram technology being used since?

If there are then I am unaware and I'd be happy to see any footage of hologram use.

Yeah, i read it kinda fast. Missed the point. hahahahhaa

As for the hologram theory, hmmmmmmmm. I really don't know what to think about that bullshit. I did have friends that were in BMCC (Community College) 2 blocks away that day and they saw the second plane hit. So i call bullshit on the hologram theory!!!
Plus people saying it was cargo planes or missles made up to look like commerical airlines.

BWhahahahaha @ holograms. This aint fucking star trek!!!

But, they do have the technology. But for this, i call bullshit!!!

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 03:54 PM

Yeah, i read it kinda fast. Missed the point. hahahahhaa

As for the hologram theory, hmmmmmmmm. I really don't know what to think about that bullshit. I did have friends that were in BMCC (Community College) 2 blocks away that day and they saw the second plane hit. So i call bullshit on the hologram theory!!!
Plus people saying it was cargo planes or missles made up to look like commerical airlines.

BWhahahahaha @ holograms. This aint fucking star trek!!!

But, they do have the technology. But for this, i call bullshit!!!

yea i agree. many saw those planes hit. so im willing to bet they werent planes... but holograms are used frequently these days so dont rule it out completely because no one knows the official story... even though by now we SHOULD because the day after 9/11 we had people asking questions that didnt get answered....

i wana know what happened to the real planes that day... they werent hijacked obviously because a couple dudes with knives cant hijack a plane with a shit ton of people and expect to get away with it. one pilot was even a X boxer.. so no, just no... wouldnt happen.. SOMEONE woulda fought for there life n easily stopped them...

ben black

11-02-2010, 03:57 PM

dude they used hologram people on live news networks. not only is the technology around- but its OLD news.....

Don't tell me - show me. Do you have any links that offer definative proof of holograms being used to portray something that isn't really there?

I find it hard to believe that holograms have and are being used. If I see any proof then I will stand corrected - but all I want is to see some evidence. I haven't yet.

real6

11-02-2010, 03:58 PM

yea i agree. many saw those planes hit. so im willing to bet they werent planes... but holograms are used frequently these days so dont rule it out completely because no one knows the official story... even though by now we SHOULD because the day after 9/11 we had people asking questions that didnt get answered....

i wana know what happened to the real planes that day... they werent hijacked obviously because a couple dudes with knives cant hijack a plane with a shit ton of people and expect to get away with it. one pilot was even a X boxer.. so no, just no... wouldnt happen.. SOMEONE woulda fought for there life n easily stopped them...

True.

They did say the real planes are still in service and have showed pictures of them: Serial numbers and all.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 03:59 PM

dude they used hologram people on live news networks. not only is the technology around- but its OLD news.....

That's NOT holograms.

It's chromakey (star wars blue/green screen).

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 03:59 PM

True.

They did say the real planes are still in service and have showed pictures of them: Serial numbers and all.

REALLY? wow... strange strange stuff....

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 04:00 PM

That's NOT holograms.

It's chromakey (star wars blue/green screen).

naw they announced a long time ago they had a hologram program or some shit... and it made real-life people appear. on FOX i think... could be wrong though...

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 04:02 PM

But, they do have the technology. But for this, i call bullshit!!!

Hologram technology is very real.

However.. it DOES NOT create 3D objects in physical space that can be viewed from every conceivable angle.

It's amazing how many people thing that Start Trek holograms are like real holograms.

They are not.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 04:06 PM

naw they announced a long time ago they had a hologram program or some shit... and it made real-life people appear. on FOX i think... could be wrong though...

Want to find the example?

I know which one you will dig out and it is STILL a projection of a laser interference beam onto a special transparent film at the back of the stage.

If you stood at the side of the stage or the back of the stage you would not see the image. You need to see the REFLECTION off the 2D surface (in this case a very large sheet of film that is the length of the stage).

Madonna has used this technique in her concerts.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 04:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3jhFXmNUt8

The hologram will not be visible from side-on.

The stage has a special film transparcy across it that reflects the laser.

ben black

11-02-2010, 04:25 PM

True.

They did say the real planes are still in service and have showed pictures of them: Serial numbers and all.

you know - I totally forgot about that. I recall reading that one of the planes had been seen in Cleveland ( apparently in service) not long AFTER 9/11.

I think it's about time to delve back into 9/11 and see what I missed in the last 8 years.

geezer661

11-02-2010, 04:32 PM

Why the hell would they use advanced technology such as holograms when it's alot simpilar just to fly frigging planes in to the buildings

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 04:34 PM

Why the hell would they use advanced technology such as holograms when it's alot simpilar just to fly frigging planes in to the buildings

A point made repeatedly to "no planers" to no avail.

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 04:36 PM

Want to find the example?

I know which one you will dig out and it is STILL a projection of a laser interference beam onto a special transparent film at the back of the stage.

If you stood at the side of the stage or the back of the stage you would not see the image. You need to see the REFLECTION off the 2D surface (in this case a very large sheet of film that is the length of the stage).

Madonna has used this technique in her concerts.

probably true. just saying they probably have the tech. not the public but tptb. and i believe planes were used. or something looking like a plane. point is though- story we are fed is bullshit

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 04:48 PM

probably true. just saying they probably have the tech. not the public but tptb.

???

Based on what science?

This is why I despair when explaining about holograms.

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 04:51 PM

???

Based on what science?

This is why I despair when explaining about holograms.

based on my personal research and opinion? fuck science- they thought the earth was flat not that long ago. remember? of course not...

frase

11-02-2010, 04:51 PM

Why also would they fly the planes into the building when they could just B o m b the buildings and bring them down?!

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 04:54 PM

Why also would they fly the planes into the building when they could just B o m b the buildings and bring them down?!

they did bomb them. the planes were so we could target terrorists and start fake wars and funnel money into more bullshit and to pass laws that allows the government to legally watch the public and listen to the public... all because of terrorism.. heart attacks kill more people then any terrorist group ever known to mankind- i think we should focus on curing those first... or cancer.. or aids... but wait- theres cures and preventions for all of the above... its just a never ending game... break out of it and press pause...

icarus

11-02-2010, 04:54 PM

hologram stuf is disinfo, the public hear stuff like that and just raise their eyebrows to us "conspiracy nuts"

remote control, fly by wire, gas in closed air system, possibly even operators on board with masks (do we know ), bomb laden special aircraft ready to take the place of those hijacked, air defence crippled from within etc

the white jumbo probably controlled the missile aircraft, it appeared on scene very quickly with no obvious function, and the media initially reported it before avoiding the subject

bish bash bosh, job done

media does the rest

i should imaging the passengers were either killed by the gas, or despatched after the planes landed or were flown into the atlantic

strengthofknowledge

11-02-2010, 04:55 PM

hologram stuf is disinfo, the public hear stuff like that and just raise their eyebrows to us "conspiracy nuts"

and you know this how?

its all opinions my friends.... alllllll opinions....

geezer661

11-02-2010, 05:05 PM

Why also would they fly the planes into the building when they could just B o m b the buildings and bring them down?!

Because it's a more spectacular event to use jumbo jets. If they just used bombs it wouldn't have had the same impact. No pun intended.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 05:11 PM

based on my personal research and opinion? fuck science- they thought the earth was flat not that long ago. remember? of course not...

What personal research have you done that even hints that creation of a hologram in physical 3D space without reflection from a 2D medium is possible?

wakeup2nwo

11-02-2010, 07:06 PM

Why the hell would they use advanced technology such as holograms when it's alot similar just to fly frigging planes in to the buildings

Whats this talk of holograms? i herd the drone theory and remote controlled cockpits in the planes which seems plausible to me considering the technology we have today and the fact that the governments are 20 - 25 years ahead of us in technology...

geezer661

11-02-2010, 07:09 PM

Whats this talk of holograms? i herd the drone theory and remote controlled cockpits in the planes which seems plausible to me considering the technology we have today and the fact that the governments are 20 - 25 years ahead of us in technology...

I think its more plausable tht remote controls were used and the pilots unable to do a thing about it. Thats probably why the hijack code wasnt typed in the flight computer.

basel

11-02-2010, 07:40 PM

???

Based on what science?

This is why I despair when explaining about holograms.

Now this is what they are showing us, so you could guess to exactly what they actually have, what's the common consensus 50 years ahead, grow up, your on a forum where everyone should still be learning!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpQloAn_3w everyone is sitting in a circle, so she can be viewed from ALL ANGLES

real6

11-02-2010, 08:10 PM

Touchable Holography

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-P1zZAcPuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5nt541SE0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOxW19vsTg

jimmi

11-02-2010, 08:41 PM

Why is this today's news and not in the 9/11 forum?

tjohn

11-02-2010, 09:32 PM

...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c2fJtdX_tAhttp://www.youtube.com/v/9c2fJtdX_tALooking at that video on Youtube it looks like something goes past the Woolworth building - just after a flash coming from the building. Start at 0:15 and watch carefully. There are also other flashes of light just before that time, to the left of the building.

gallifrey

11-02-2010, 09:37 PM

Wow.

Every time I think I have seen all there is to see about 9/11, something like this comes along, and leaves me stunned.

Over the years, it has become quite apparent who the true culprits of this heinous act really are, but it is fascinating to see how far they went to perpetrate it. The mechanics of it all.

I guess forewarned is forearmed. These guys clearly aren't short on methods, nor are they short on resources, and they are clearly willing to go as far as necessary to make things happen. The only thing they do seem to be short of is a conscience.

tjohn

11-02-2010, 10:09 PM

hologram stuf is disinfo, the public hear stuff like that and just raise their eyebrows to us "conspiracy nuts" ....

Basel and real6,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058629249 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058629249#post1058629249)

To create holograms we need a hologram machine/projector so where was the hologram machine on 911?

real6

11-02-2010, 10:13 PM

Basel and real6,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058629249#post1058629249

To create holograms we need a hologram machine/projector so where was the hologram machine on 911?

Tjohn

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058628514&postcount=43

tjohn

11-02-2010, 10:22 PM

Tjohn

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058628514&postcount=43OK real6, I took your post showing holograms out of context. Sorry about that.

Basel?

real6

11-02-2010, 10:24 PM

OK real6, I took your post showing holograms out of context. Sorry about that.

Basel?

No problem bro :p

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:38 PM

Now this is what they are showing us, so you could guess to exactly what they actually have, what's the common consensus 50 years ahead, grow up, your on a forum where everyone should still be learning!!!

Teach me.

Just give me a tiny hint of the science that says you can create a hologram that occupies real physical 3D space and can be observed from every conceivable angle.

I have yet to see a single solid piece of science that says such a thing is possible.

Don't give me the "50 years ahead" shit - you might as well say they used a mass hypnosis machine and you can't deny it because their technology is 50 years ahead and it's secret.

Give me the science.

Give me a hint of the science.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:39 PM

Touchable Holography

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-P1zZAcPuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5nt541SE0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thOxW19vsTg

This is all known holographic technology.

You obviously have no idea how that could be applied to 9/11 because you have no idea how it works.

You don't really understand holograms.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:42 PM

Now this is what they are showing us, so you could guess to exactly what they actually have, what's the common consensus 50 years ahead, grow up, your on a forum where everyone should still be learning!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtpQloAn_3w everyone is sitting in a circle, so she can be viewed from ALL ANGLES

Tell me how it works.

I know.

But you tell me.

Then tell me how that is applicable to the skies of New York.

tjohn

11-02-2010, 10:45 PM

There must be a giant invisible mirror somewhere in the sky! lol

real6

11-02-2010, 10:46 PM

This is all known holographic technology.

You obviously have no idea how that could be applied to 9/11 because you have no idea how it works.

You don't really understand holograms.

Me in general or (us) people as a whole?

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:47 PM

There must be a giant invisible mirror somewhere in the sky! lol

Yes.. and moving at 500mph.

Honestly.. some people are just fuckwits.

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:48 PM

Me in general or (us) people as a whole?

You.

Or do you?

Because if you did you would know why there was no hologram over the skies of New York.

tjohn

11-02-2010, 10:52 PM

You.

Or do you?

Because if you did you would know why there was no hologram over the skies of New York.Actually, real6 didn't say that holograms were used.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058628514

real6

11-02-2010, 10:54 PM

Tjohn

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058628514&postcount=43

This is all known holographic technology.

You obviously have no idea how that could be applied to 9/11 because you have no idea how it works.

You don't really understand holograms.

O lord here we go again. Seems like you don't read every page either. Hit the link above i left for Tjohn.

It seems you obviously have no idea what so ever either. So, you know...

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:54 PM

Actually, real6 didn't say that holograms were used.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058628514

Pfft.

There was no implication?

Pfft.

real6

11-02-2010, 10:55 PM

You.

Or do you?

Because if you did you would know why there was no hologram over the skies of New York.

Pfft.

There was no implication?

Pfft.

Sorry but just seems like you did.

tsk tsk ;)

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 10:55 PM

But, they do have the technology. But for this, i call bullshit!!!

No they f**king don't.

Tell me about it.

tjohn

11-02-2010, 10:57 PM

Pfft.

There was no implication?

Pfft.I think it was a matter of context.

tjohn

11-02-2010, 11:01 PM

Lets not get sidetracked. Did anyone notice that something went past the Woolworth building?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058629571

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 11:04 PM

I think it was a matter of context.

I think it's a matter of people thinking holograms are like on star trek.

real6

11-02-2010, 11:05 PM

No they f**king don't.

Tell me about it.

Are you Olas?

No, please enlighten us all and school us in the way of Hologram manipulation... You seem to know very much about it.

Lets not get sidetracked. Did anyone notice that something went past the Woolworth building?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058629571

I was just about to say...

amaralsright

11-02-2010, 11:09 PM

No, please enlighten us all and school us in the way of Hologram manipulation... You seem to know very much about it.

You're the one who said they have the technology.

Tell us about it.

real6

16-02-2010, 12:54 AM

You're the one who said they have the technology.

Tell us about it.

Please, be our guest and enlighten us...

kgone

16-02-2010, 03:49 AM

great thread!

ive just came across this video.. very interesting

Laser Targeting UAV, Evidence of Military Technology on 9/11 (original)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr4BJ89Df5Q

I never saw this video. Thanks for posting. The remote control part seems to make sense and explain a lot of things. I still can't believe that some people buy the "terrorists in the sky" angle. I never believed that the highjackers would have been able to fly the planes with such accuracy. This was an excuse for tptb to start another war, build new millitary toys and bleed the American people dry. I still can't believe how sick this makes me feel. :mad:

subl1minal

16-02-2010, 04:02 AM

You're the one who said they have the technology.

Tell us about it.

What about the video that shows there is no plane and the Newsreporters don't even pick up on a plane going into a building as it's happening?

I love how the wing of the 2nd tower plane dissappears as it hits and if you pause the video at the right time, as it enters the building, there's no breaking-in markings, just a little plume of smoke and then BOOM.

Because there was no real plane.

amaralsright

16-02-2010, 08:43 AM

What about the video that shows there is no plane and the Newsreporters don't even pick up on a plane going into a building as it's happening?

I love how the wing of the 2nd tower plane dissappears as it hits and if you pause the video at the right time, as it enters the building, there's no breaking-in markings, just a little plume of smoke and then BOOM.

Because there was no real plane.

Show us the video.

basel

17-02-2010, 03:10 PM

Show us the video.

Your a right cock are you, but tell me one thing is your wisdom, what makes you so sure it was not a hologram, do you think TPTB tell us everything

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 03:20 PM

Your a right cock are you, but tell me one thing is your wisdom, what makes you so sure it was not a hologram, do you think TPTB tell us everything

Show us the video.

basel

17-02-2010, 03:26 PM

What video are you going on about??

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 03:34 PM

What video are you going on about??

Originally Posted by subl1minal
What about the video that shows there is no plane and the Newsreporters don't even pick up on a plane going into a building as it's happening?

I love how the wing of the 2nd tower plane dissappears as it hits and if you pause the video at the right time, as it enters the building, there's no breaking-in markings, just a little plume of smoke and then BOOM.

Because there was no real plane.

That one

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 03:36 PM

what makes you so sure it was not a hologram
Because I know how holograms work unlike the majority of no-planers who think that Star Trek technology is real.

do you think TPTB tell us everything

If I said TPTB used a mass hypnosis machine and are still using it to make us think we are seeing planes.... what would you say?

basel

17-02-2010, 03:38 PM

basel

17-02-2010, 03:39 PM

Because I know how holograms work unlike the majority of no-planers who think that Star Trek technology is real.

If I said TPTB used a mass hypnosis machine and are still using it to make us think we are seeing planes.... what would you say?

Ok i like the second part better

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 03:47 PM

that's not my post so i do not know , but 1 thing i do believe and that is a blue beam type holographic system has been developed (although you will probably dig me on that to) but like i said before we should all still be learning on this forum and not taking ANYTHING as i given

What about my mass hypnosis machine?

Blue Beam is bollocks just like the mass hypnosis machine.

There is not one hint from science that a 3d phyiscal projector beam (like on star trek) is possible... not a hint.

There IS hologram technology and there is NO WAY that it could be applied to the skies of New York on 9/11.

There's open minds and there's bullshit detecting.

basel

17-02-2010, 03:51 PM

What about my mass hypnosis machine?

Blue Beam is bollocks just like the mass hypnosis machine.

There is not one hint from science that a 3d phyiscal projector beam (like on star trek) is possible... not a hint.

There IS hologram technology and there is NO WAY that it could be applied to the skies of New York on 9/11.

There's open minds and there's bullshit detecting.

there's no sense talking to you as your mind seems closed, somethings do stay secret

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 03:53 PM

there's no sense talking to you as your mind seems closed, somethings do stay secret

Yeah.. right.

What about the theory that the plane was real but the WTC1&2 buildings were holograms?

The government have secret technology that's been projecting those building since 1975 using hard light that you can actually walk on?

You can't deny it.

Somethings do stay secret.

basel

17-02-2010, 03:57 PM

Continue on your own i finished with this thread, i asked you to show evidence that holograms could not do the things we where talking about and you bottled it, all you have done in every post is literately calls us fuckwits, and i feel the only fuckwit around here is you

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 04:01 PM

Continue on your own i finished with this thread, i asked you to show evidence that holograms could not do the things we where talking about and you bottled it,
Ah that old cannard.. ask me to prove a negative.

Nope.

You have have to tell us how holograms can do what you say.

all you have done in every post is literately calls us fuckwits, and i feel the only fuckwit around here is you
Wrong again.

Anyone who thinks holograms like star trek are real is not terribly bright.

Just one hint of real science please... that's all I'm asking.

basel

17-02-2010, 04:05 PM

And your a cock, see you later

amaralsright

17-02-2010, 04:09 PM

I'll take that as a "no, I have no real science to show you".

http://blog.nola.com/star-trek_impact/2009/04/medium_trek-dream-team-doctor.jpg

Not real.

http://www.allanjosephbatac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/princess-leia-thumb.jpg

Not real.

Do you understand?

The first is a real person pretending to be a "hologram" and the second is a special effect added after filming the scene.

Got it?

real6

06-10-2010, 04:03 PM

REALLY? wow... strange strange stuff....

Tell me about it.

I'll take that as a "no, I have no real science to show you".

http://blog.nola.com/star-trek_impact/2009/04/medium_trek-dream-team-doctor.jpg

Not real.

http://www.allanjosephbatac.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/princess-leia-thumb.jpg

Not real.

Do you understand?

The first is a real person pretending to be a "hologram" and the second is a special effect added after filming the scene.

Got it?

Those are movies thou, we are talking about you saying that Holograms hit WTC!!!

How the hell is that even possible?!??!?!?!

real6

06-10-2010, 04:14 PM

Damn, i never read this:

The owner of the Woolworth Building was right wing political operative

whose business is covert operations. He's had a lot of interesting connections and past operations.

From the NY POST (08-29-03): "The Woolworth Building! The Woolworth Building! They're shooting at the Trade Center from the Woolworth Building!" a police officer screams. ... "There's fucking explosions going off on Vesey street!" another officer yells. "Can you send somebody over to the Woolworth Building to check the roof?" a Port Authority police officer asked. "There's a possible ... they said it was ... we just had a second explosion, possibly a missile from the roof of the Woolworth Building." "The Woolworth Building?" replied a police operator. "`Yeah, on ... on Broadway," the officer said. One still from this "explosion" probably came from the Euro News video---"which is now mysteriously missing". Tom Modern looked into the biography of Richard "Bo" Dietl, who runs the Woolworth Building for Beau Dietl & Associates. He found out, that Dietl has advised the Royal Family of Saudi Arabia on issues of personal and physical site security and supervised security services provided for high-ranking officials from the Peoples Republic of China. Bo Dietls partner is Steven Witkoff, the mega-developer of The Witkoff Group, which bought the building in June 1998 from the Woolworth chain for $155 million. I checked the website of Beau Dietl and found another disturbing, military profile of Michael R. Rocque, Senior Security Consultant: "...In February 2001, he became a member of Beau Dietl & Associates specializing in anti-terrorism From August 2000 until November 2000, he was coordinator with the Bush North Carolina Campaign Committee, prior to this job, he devised and coordinated a comprehensive evaluation program for the five active duty Special Forces Groups in the United States Army. From 1997- 1999, he was Commander of a Special Operations Squadron in the 1st SFOD-D (the Delta Force), the highest priority combat unit in the Department of the Army. From 1980 to 1984, he was Platoon Leader and Executive Officer of a 265 man Light Infantry Company with the primary mission of providing continuous security screening and defense for a Pershing Artillery Battalion (primary nuclear missile system for the European Theater)..." It would be interesting, to follow up on these Port Authority Tapes and other witnesses, who saw something fishy, coming from the Woolworth Building or somewhere else.

http://www.libertythink.com/2004/12/911-explosions-at-woolworth-building.html

http://www.total911.info/2004/12/woolworth-building-as-staging-area-for.html

http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/02/281717.shtml

http://www.total411.info/2005/04/bo-dietl-911-and-jeff-gannons-gosch.html