Who is the Antichrist?

[cleft_asunder]

Who do you guys think the Antichrist is? Is there any good material on the subject to research?

[timestop24]

The antichrist is not a literal figure. It was only briefly mentioned in the New Testament, and in the context of everyone possessing the ability to act as an antichrist, as in having the spirit of one. The literal interpretation of a solitary figure ruling the world as upheld by endtime dispensationalists is extremely simplistic and totally fabricated.

[cleft_asunder]

The antichrist is not a literal figure. It was only briefly mentioned in the New Testament, and in the context of everyone possessing the ability to act as an antichrist, as in having the spirit of one. The literal interpretation of a solitary figure ruling the world as upheld by endtime dispensationalists is extremely simplistic and totally fabricated.

I disagree. It is entirely possible that Satan, the supreme ruler of the Matrix, can manifest as an individual. What was the deal with that individual at the UFO conference who died --likely be a weapon-- on stage? He was going to reveal the antichrist.

But other than that, I was searching for some good DVD's on this subject and came upon a doc called The Sons of God and the Antichrist by Bill Shnoebelen. Then I found a and individual who dedicates his life to making fun of Bill Schnoebelen's ideas. Now I ask you, who is the crazy one here? Bill must have something entirely correct to say for a whole site to be raised against him.

http://www.masonicinfo.com/schnoebelen.htm

[cleft_asunder]

Check this out, part 1 of many: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2394822841516502952&q=Total+Onslaught&hl=en

Ummm, I hope I'm not posting copyrighted material. I don't want to get a second warning as my refridgerator already has too much on it.

[rossus]

if he died on stage, it's probably for the show... so people would say
"oh they killed him.... what he had to say is probably the truth!! i'm going to subject myself to his beliefs from now on"

if he died on stage, he surely told lots of other people... or would have the information stored in his computer, which he could have spread over the internet.

if you ask me the antichrist, or satan, or "evil" are all the same.
and it is both inside and outside.
inside, the ego, it's that part in us which is never satisfied... it blinds us from the truth that we are free and that we and the universe are in love.

outside, is the people who are never satisfied that we conform with and copy there behavior. outside is the system that robs us of our freedom, that enslaves us to money and laws.. and that exploits our greatest weakness, the ego, by brainwashing it through all ways they can find (culture, religion, media, ...)

[oneofmany]

You have to believe in Christ before you believe in it's polar opposite, which, fortunately for me, I don't. Read the bible, and you will soon realise, if you have a firm grasp of history, that there was no Christ, and that the story is actually about Astrotheology, among other things and explains an indoctrinated way of thinking and living...NOTHING MORE. At the end of the day, you can see whatever you want to in these texts, but if you know that you have the power to make these beliefs real, then you realise that you make your own prisons, or you set yourself free. IT'S AS EASY AS THAT. The only message that is relevant, to take out of the bible, is to Love thy neighbour, because Love is the only real thing in this hologram we call reality.

[bigus_dickus]

can someone please describe the antichrist?

[tommi]

can someone please describe the antichrist?

According to my family, me.. ;)

[astral]

Who do you guys think the Antichrist is? Is there any good material on the subject to research?

Condoleeza Rice

http://home.adelphia.net/~novena/images/Rice_Burns.jpg

:mad:

[tru3]

my take on revelations is that it was an historical document, an "emblem" written in code, as a warning for early christians to stay away from the roman church. the antichrist is the pope, who abrogated christ's authority on earth, and the whore of babylon is imperial rome.

as for relevance for our times, i would say armageddon is being created by those who believe in it, not because god willed it 2000 years ago. end timers are creating a golem, a meme, a thoughtform vortex, that is taking on a life of its own. it is prophecy in the sense that it has the potential to be self-fulfilling.

[emma royds]

can someone please describe the antichrist?


Yes, the anti-christ is the opposite of our saviour, Jesus christ our lord.

[bigus_dickus]

Yes, the anti-christ is the opposite of our saviour, Jesus christ our lord.

yeap. so, it could be anyone... or everyone.

[emma royds]

yeap. so, it could be anyone... or everyone.


No it is definetely Jesus, I read about it in the bible.

[mrguitarbear]

You will be wanting this thread which I prepared earlier : Link (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2746)

Nostradamus seems to imply there have been 3 Antichrists - the first was Napoleon , the second was Hitler and the third is George W. Bush. When no ' King of Terror ' turned up in 1999 , everyone thought Nostradamus had got it wrong , but I have re-interpreted the prophecy and shown that it actually refers to Bush - thus the Antichrist walks among us. Since 9/11 was staged by Bush and his handlers , he IS the ' King of Terror ' for perpetuating the worst act of terrorism in history.

What happens in 2012 is anybody's guess , interestingly it will be 13 years in that year from July 1999 and Bush's appearance as the most likely Republican candidate for the Presidential Elections of 2000.

[john white]

Everything within us that makes us turn from embracing our own potential as a vessel of God: to become the inner "Christ" of the healed and transcended ego

[synergy777]

imho the antichrist is the vatican christ/third temple etc. after all the bullshit they have created, most folk wouldn't recognise yashuah anyway, heck most don't know his name, or his teachings. what they know is mithras/sol invictus.

the vatican makes sense to me is the religous centre of the nwo. its the world biggest religion churchanity, it has commercial festivals, activities, products. it has been used very succesfully to supersede other religions of natives, a great tool of empire/eugenics/slavery.heck so many are people are brainwashed, they think by having a turkey once a year they are christians, lol and other factors, but lets not get into colour, geography, lol

[teslafire]

In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.

According to St. Malachy "prophecies" (*ahem* - LONG range business plan), its the very next pope, take a look at the chart -

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Kinda odd that Ratzinger took the name of Benedict...just happens to fit the business plan, er I mean prophecy to the "T".

[synergy777]

does this include the pope who was only pope for a few days? is it doesn't, then this is the one. from illuminati heartland, bavaria, hitler youth member etc.

March 23 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

752 - Stephen is elected Pope. He died three days later, before being ordained bishop, and is not considered a legitimate pope.

also the mayan clandar and the georgian one. is there any inconstincies, errors. the lunar (13mths * 28 days) versus well 31/30/28 pigs (Y)ear.

[teslafire]

does this include the pope who was only pope for a few days? is it doesn't, then this is the one. from illuminati heartland, bavaria, hitler youth member etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_23

752 - Stephen is elected Pope. He died three days later, before being ordained bishop, and is not considered a legitimate pope.

also the mayan clandar and the georgian one. is there any inconstincies, errors. the lunar (13mths * 28 days) versus well 31/30/28 pigs (Y)ear.

It includes the pope that was assasinated after being in power for just 33 days, however, Ratzinger could conceivably be both Benedictine AND Petrus Romanus as the Antichrist does at first arrive as Peacemaker only to reveal himself as the ultimate blasphemer (mirrors Bush's 'uniter not divider' thang but to link the two together as the two antichrists in revelations is premature still, IMO).

*edit*
Oh whoops I can't read, you're talking about someone totally different that John Paul I.

Malachi's prophecies were written in 1139 so it doesn't include Stephen anyways.

[synergy777]

ask yourself would the catholic website endorse a propehect that spelt bad times for them, even the fatima stuff. i think this one looks the part imho.also teh peope was on about teh unifucation all churches very soon. the best way to keep ahead of the people would be to give them false prophecies, be one step ahead.whilst we are waiting for the next one, to make the propehcy come true, they already on the last one, making progress whilst we keep our attention away. if i was the pope/vatican i personally would do that, keep the people in suspense, false hope, whilst getting my plan together, unhindered.

[2013]

the whore of babylon clothed in scarlet and purple riding a seven headed beast , anyone , please . lol maybe when it was written they thought we would never be educated enough to learn to read or interpret it . The vatican hierarchy wear scarlett and purple , taking the colours from the roman emperors so that the masses would recognise the signs of authority .
And rome is built on seven hills ,and the heads of state all bow down in obedience to the vatican , the pope wears white as a symbol of his authority over everyone .Any head of state who meets with him has to wear black .Interestingly enough cherie blair whilst in rome had an impromptu meeting with the pope but due to time didnt have a chance to change ! so met him wearing all white , do some research and you will see .
What does that say or are we just feeding the programme .

http://news.scotsman.com/topics.cfm?tid=427&id=641002006

And yes if christ did not exist then no anti christ could , but maybe it stands for the principles of christ as joshua jesus whoever wasnt called mr christ on the census forms he apparently personifieed the christ spirit
the highest form we can attain or maybe it means annointed one , in wich case research kanabosm and other hebrew annointing oils and practises, moses and the burning bush .

In the words of one of the most recent self confessed anti-christs

Ever get the feeling youv'e been cheated :D

[synergy777]

or in the words of a former pope,
http://www.greatsite.com/timeline-english-bible-history/pre-reformation.html
Pope Leo the Tenth showed his true feelings when he said, “The fable of Christ has been quite profitable to us!”

alexander hislops two babylons is a great book.

[teslafire]

ask yourself would the catholic website endorse a propehect that spelt bad times for them, even the fatima stuff. i think this one looks the part imho.also teh peope was on about teh unifucation all churches very soon. the best way to keep ahead of the people would be to give them false prophecies, be one step ahead.whilst we are waiting for the next one, to make the propehcy come true, they already on the last one, making progress whilst we keep our attention away. if i was the pope/vatican i personally would do that, keep the people in suspense, false hope, whilst getting my plan together, unhindered.

The bad times are a requirement for their ascension, its written into their prophecy, like a hypnotist telling people he's going to rob their soul whilst he's doing it.

You can't stop "prophecy". IMO, this is the intimidating message that the real powers behind the roleplaying pope want to incur on the masses.

[synergy777]

like the fallen in last window of opportunity for ascension told the people of central america, egypt, sacrifice the people to stop famine, castaphrophe, keep people trapped in negative emotions, actions, fear, hatred etc.

[2013]

ask yourself would the catholic website endorse a propehect that spelt bad times for them, even the fatima stuff. i think this one looks the part imho.also teh peope was on about teh unifucation all churches very soon. the best way to keep ahead of the people would be to give them false prophecies, be one step ahead.whilst we are waiting for the next one, to make the propehcy come true, they already on the last one, making progress whilst we keep our attention away. if i was the pope/vatican i personally would do that, keep the people in suspense, false hope, whilst getting my plan together, unhindered.

Good call , i read a lot of nostradamus years ago and then got to thinking how well it served the agenda of the rulers , in times of war etc nostradamus has been used by both sides in a conflict to assure people that they were o nthe right side .Nostradamus was apparently on e o fthe early heads of the priory de sion i seem to recal reading .If so then its not prophecy (although i know from personal experience it can be genuine ) but its more an agenda with a flexible timetable for the followers to carry out at a later date to legitimise certain claims .Keep control hence the benedict claim in malachi.You have to ask yourself who profits from the prophets .While the genuine prophets bob marley peter tosh martin luther king bill hicks john lennon etc are removed and surely they must know by now you cant kill an idea even if you do silence the messenger
As for anti christ title a lot of people attribute it to hitler but mussolinis forces invaded ethiopia in 1936 exileing the emperor haile selassie at that time , As he is considered the living god by the rastafarians maybe we should look at the roman mussolini again -all roads lead to rome .Interesting to note that when the body of emperor haile selassie was supposedly discovered under a palace toilet it was given a funeral .Was he put there as a sign of direspect beneath all those people using the toilet or to hide the pysichal remains and promote his status as living god who ascended to heaven .The spirit is what lives eternally so it doesnt matter if a body remains imo .In the hiram key it states somewhere a historian writing at the time of jesus described the man we have come to know as such as being 4 foot 10 "
with black curly hair and a hunch , of african appearance , sounds similar to the emperor to me and im a white non smoker so ive no philosophy to promote . But if this man was the living god then any who oppose that movement religion are indeed anti christ in nature considering the nature of their philosophy and way of life :D

[narcolepticwatchman]

if he died on stage, it's probably for the show... so people would say
"oh they killed him.... what he had to say is probably the truth!! i'm going to subject myself to his beliefs from now on"

if he died on stage, he surely told lots of other people... or would have the information stored in his computer, which he could have spread over the internet.

if you ask me the antichrist, or satan, or "evil" are all the same.
and it is both inside and outside.
inside, the ego, it's that part in us which is never satisfied... it blinds us from the truth that we are free and that we and the universe are in love.

outside, is the people who are never satisfied that we conform with and copy there behavior. outside is the system that robs us of our freedom, that enslaves us to money and laws.. and that exploits our greatest weakness, the ego, by brainwashing it through all ways they can find (culture, religion, media, ...)


You need to do some reading up on Dean Warwick, the guy that died on stage. He didn't post his theories on the internet. He did do a couple of interviews which are availible on the web. I believe he was onto something with his theories. His announcement of who the anti-christ was had never been spoken about before. This was his intention to announce it for the first time, his mistake was anouncing he was going to announce it:D I do not believe it was a staged event.

[graflok]

I find this article to be very interesting on this subject. Be sure to click the "More" by the picture to read the entire article.

http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=133&contentid=1748


graflok

[cleft_asunder]

You have to believe in Christ before you believe in it's polar opposite, which, fortunately for me, I don't. Read the bible, and you will soon realise, if you have a firm grasp of history, that there was no Christ, and that the story is actually about Astrotheology, among other things and explains an indoctrinated way of thinking and living...NOTHING MORE. At the end of the day, you can see whatever you want to in these texts, but if you know that you have the power to make these beliefs real, then you realise that you make your own prisons, or you set yourself free. IT'S AS EASY AS THAT. The only message that is relevant, to take out of the bible, is to Love thy neighbour, because Love is the only real thing in this hologram we call reality.

Well it isn't that simple. I am not Christian, just so you know. But know that this Illuminati is HEAVILY into the (real) Satanism--the Occult. They literally manifest the "demons" who are at the highest level of the Matrix, where Satan resides. The dark forces work through people on this Earth, and the Reptilians are the henchmen, who are controlled too. Perhaps Satan is the Matrix mind beaming the Illusion to us. Whatever the interpretation, we are talking about real things here. The Illuminati aren't goign to Bohemian Grove as an excuse to dress up in white robes. There is deep purpose to what they do. While I've never been a fan of Christ the human figure, I do believe that that too is a real POWER if you will.

Yes, I do agree with you and Timestop that above all we are the ones holding this nightmare together since we are 1 God, and even all this is part of God. Unfortunately, you're missing a key point. That key point is that for billions of years this illusory universe has kept itself going. It is not as simple as "you can wake up whenever you want." Don't you see that it is extremely difficult even for an awakened person to wake up fully to their true nature? The fact of the matter is that this multiverse nightmare is a persistent illusion that has more control of it's inhabatants than should be. This is why I strongly believe that Icke is right about the whole Time Loop thing, and that Satan is at the top feeding on fear energy to keep the Matrix going.

[graflok]

About that guy who died on stage, can you shoot me some links so I can read about it? Got me very interested and google gave me nothing, thanks.

Try "Dean Warwick"

graflok

[cleft_asunder]

my take on revelations is that it was an historical document, an "emblem" written in code, as a warning for early christians to stay away from the roman church. the antichrist is the pope, who abrogated christ's authority on earth, and the whore of babylon is imperial rome.

as for relevance for our times, i would say armageddon is being created by those who believe in it, not because god willed it 2000 years ago. end timers are creating a golem, a meme, a thoughtform vortex, that is taking on a life of its own. it is prophecy in the sense that it has the potential to be self-fulfilling.

Of course God didn't will it, and it has nothing to do with Christians believe it will come true. It has everything to do with the Illuminati leading us down that path. I'm speaking through the Christian mind right now. The Bible isn't a work of Jesus, but a work of the forces that oppose him. So the book is a roadmap to the NWO. Interestingly, the dark forces admit their ultimate defeat. Why?

[cleft_asunder]

According to St. Malachy "prophecies" (*ahem* - LONG range business plan), its the very next pope, take a look at the chart -

http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp

Kinda odd that Ratzinger took the name of Benedict...just happens to fit the business plan, er I mean prophecy to the "T".

What circumstances are required for the last pope to emerge?

[cleft_asunder]

Didn't you say you were a former christian?:confused:

Former Christian, Muslim, and Athiest. Doesn't matter does it? I didn't think I would be having a discussion like this, but it's quite relevant to understanding our current situation.

Everyone needs to check out that link I gave. He gets in depth into the Bible, but I'm telling you that it gets very interesting. The man eventually starts talking about secret societies and the NWO. There is lots to learn from this. He believes the Roman church is the new Anti-Christ religion and Romes power encompasses the world. He backs it up with the Bible.

[chester]

You have to believe in Christ before you believe in it's polar opposite, which, fortunately for me, I don't. Read the bible, and you will soon realise, if you have a firm grasp of history, that there was no Christ, and that the story is actually about Astrotheology, among other things and explains an indoctrinated way of thinking and living...NOTHING MORE. At the end of the day, you can see whatever you want to in these texts, but if you know that you have the power to make these beliefs real, then you realise that you make your own prisons, or you set yourself free. IT'S AS EASY AS THAT. The only message that is relevant, to take out of the bible, is to Love thy neighbour, because Love is the only real thing in this hologram we call reality.

I share your view

[chester]

my take on revelations is that it was an historical document, an "emblem" written in code, as a warning for early christians to stay away from the roman church. the antichrist is the pope, who abrogated christ's authority on earth, and the whore of babylon is imperial rome.

as for relevance for our times, i would say armageddon is being created by those who believe in it, not because god willed it 2000 years ago. end timers are creating a golem, a meme, a thoughtform vortex, that is taking on a life of its own. it is prophecy in the sense that it has the potential to be self-fulfilling.

Wow - I share this take as well - and i happen to be my own best anti christ btw

[timestop24]

Former Christian, Muslim, and Athiest. Doesn't matter does it? I didn't think I would be having a discussion like this, but it's quite relevant to understanding our current situation.

Everyone needs to check out that link I gave. He gets in depth into the Bible, but I'm telling you that it gets very interesting. The man eventually starts talking about secret societies and the NWO. There is lots to learn from this. He believes the Roman church is the new Anti-Christ religion and Romes power encompasses the world. He backs it up with the Bible.


I wouldn't put too much trust into that. :rolleyes:

[chester]

Well it isn't that simple. I am not Christian, just so you know. But know that this Illuminati is HEAVILY into the (real) Satanism--the Occult. They literally manifest the "demons" who are at the highest level of the Matrix, where Satan resides. The dark forces work through people on this Earth, and the Reptilians are the henchmen, who are controlled too. Perhaps Satan is the Matrix mind beaming the Illusion to us. Whatever the interpretation, we are talking about real things here. The Illuminati aren't goign to Bohemian Grove as an excuse to dress up in white robes. There is deep purpose to what they do. While I've never been a fan of Christ the human figure, I do believe that that too is a real POWER if you will.

Yes, I do agree with you and Timestop that above all we are the ones holding this nightmare together since we are 1 God, and even all this is part of God. Unfortunately, you're missing a key point. That key point is that for billions of years this illusory universe has kept itself going. It is not as simple as "you can wake up whenever you want." Don't you see that it is extremely difficult even for an awakened person to wake up fully to their true nature? The fact of the matter is that this multiverse nightmare is a persistent illusion that has more control of it's inhabatants than should be. This is why I strongly believe that Icke is right about the whole Time Loop thing, and that Satan is at the top feeding on fear energy to keep the Matrix going.

Another great post, summed the whole thing up quite well. This is one of the best threads ever on this forum. thanks Folks

[cleft_asunder]

I wouldn't put too much trust into that. :rolleyes:

It's just information. But it's not if you don't watch it.

[teslafire]

What circumstances are required for the last pope to emerge?

The merging of all major religions under one authority; rebuilding Solomon's (sol - moon) temple.

If its the current pope, then he will reveal his true self or become possessed by 'that serpent satan' midway through his prescribed reign of seven years (and then he'd have a different title, i.e. Secretary General of World Parliament of Religions). Ratzinger became pontiff in 4/05, so he wouldn't rule from Jerusalem until fall '08, then the whole show finales in 2012.

One theory of many, but the timelines do work out nicely.

[cleft_asunder]

The merging of all major religions under one authority; rebuilding Solomon's (sol - moon) temple.

If its the current pope, then he will reveal his true self or become possessed by 'that serpent satan' midway through his prescribed reign of seven years (and then he'd have a different title, i.e. Secretary General of World Parliament of Religions). Ratzinger became pontiff in 4/05, so he wouldn't rule from Jerusalem until fall '08, then the whole show finales in 2012.

One theory of many, but the timelines do work out nicely.

In the documentary I'm watching, it mentions how the SEAT of the pope is the anti-christ itself. This does make sense.

[i_am]

OK! I have read all of this thread and some of you have good points. I will now endeavour to put mine across.

I do believe there was a man known as Yeshua (Jesus) . I believe he was a prophet, like many others ie Buddha, Muhammad, Abraham, Nostradamus, Malachi etc. He however, came into this world and either had the knowledge or tapped into it in those lost years. He had the Christ energy or consciousness, therefore was given the title ‘Christ’. He was the Christed one. We all have the potential to be this. He was reported as having said, “All of these things I do, you too can do, and more” or words to that effect.

The Bible and other books were written by man and so have the potential to be misinterpreted. Jesus spoke in parables, so why do Christians take everything literally? The story of Jesus ,as presented to us, is a rehash of previous myths as David explains much better than I can

I believe The Christ is the Christ Consciousness, not a person therefore does it not follow, in this world of duality, that the Anti-Christ is the opposite? That it goes against all that we aspire to be? I think there have probably be many men who fit into this category however we are living in the times of the ‘anti-christ’ where we are being subjected to this energy. 666 is supposedly the number of the beast. Well take a look at your bar codes. The all have 666 in them. We are living in the times of the beast.

It is up to us to raise the level of vibration because we are living in a world of very low vibration. There are pockets of purity, but in general we are living in a world still stuck in the base chakra. We need to open up that crown chakra, raise the vibration and bring in the light.

That’s my take on things. I don’t have all the answers by a long shot. Hell! I don’t even know most of the questions but it is fun learning :p :D

[2013]

OK! I have read all of this thread and some of you have good points. I will now endeavour to put mine across.

I do believe there was a man known as Yeshua (Jesus) . I believe he was a prophet, like many others ie Buddha, Muhammad, Abraham, Nostradamus, Malachi etc. He however, came into this world and either had the knowledge or tapped into it in those lost years. He had the Christ energy or consciousness, therefore was given the title ‘Christ’. He was the Christed one. We all have the potential to be this. He was reported as having said, “All of these things I do, you too can do, and more” or words to that effect.

The Bible and other books were written by man and so have the potential to be misinterpreted. Jesus spoke in parables, so why do Christians take everything literally? The story of Jesus ,as presented to us, is a rehash of previous myths as David explains much better than I can

I believe The Christ is the Christ Consciousness, not a person therefore does it not follow, in this world of duality, that the Anti-Christ is the opposite? That it goes against all that we aspire to be? I think there have probably be many men who fit into this category however we are living in the times of the ‘anti-christ’ where we are being subjected to this energy. 666 is supposedly the number of the beast. Well take a look at your bar codes. The all have 666 in them. We are living in the times of the beast.

It is up to us to raise the level of vibration because we are living in a world of very low vibration. There are pockets of purity, but in general we are living in a world still stuck in the base chakra. We need to open up that crown chakra, raise the vibration and bring in the light.

That’s my take on things. I don’t have all the answers by a long shot. Hell! I don’t even know most of the questions but it is fun learning :p :D

i often quote the all i do you can do and more to people particularly if they are religious it seems to annoy some of them for some reason yet its their religion and book !Yes i feel the christ conciousness thing for want of a better name christ and anti-christ like heaven and hell is a state of mind .
The bar code is an interesting reference , somewhere o nhere someone posted that if you draw a line at 90% thru the middle of the bar code it cancels the negative masculine vibe from it .I did an experiment my partner does psychometry , i got her to run her hands across a book with 2 bar codes on the back with her eyes closed .I asked for general feelings and then ran a line thru one of them and had her repeat it she said the side i ran the line thru wich she couldnt see felt lighter energy less heavy , so i think theres something in that for sure .keep raising that vibration 100 monkeys cant be wrong :D

[synergy777]

I do believe there was a man known as Yeshua (Jesus) . I believe he was a prophet, like many others ie Buddha, Muhammad, Abraham, Nostradamus, Malachi etc. He however, came into this world and either had the knowledge or tapped into it in those lost years. He had the Christ energy or consciousness, therefore was given the title ‘Christ’. He was the Christed one. We all have the potential to be this. He was reported as having said, “All of these things I do, you too can do, and more” or words to that effect

this is true, after all evryone has a soul, brain. its just a matter of how you use it, perceive etc. like i said it's not neo we are looking for, but the neo/soul in you.everyone is neo, if they transcend cultural prejudices, earthly desires, ego etc.

Jesus spoke in parables, so why do Christians take everything literally?

beacuse they have been seduced by the elite into thinking they know evrything.lol after all look at the power of the false image of christ. everyone knows the location/climate of palestine, yet fail to see that a white, blonde hair, blue eyes jesus could not be hebrew. but due to cultural prejudice/arrogance, they believe it. its the scam principle, scams work because of peoples inate desire to aquire wealth, greed. although the jehovahs witnesses have leaflets of him looking coloured. i think yashuah was an african/indian, as when he went into egypt fleeing herod, he could live in egypt without being seen/noticed. as egypt was a nubian/indian(hyskos) country then, to be not noticed would mean he would have to fit in with the local population.

also yashuah's religous philosophy was eastern, hindusim . the creator/brahma/father, atman/soul, maya/illusion, moksha/nirvana/liberation.

[tru3]

i think yashuah was an african/indian, as when he went into egypt fleeing herod, he could live in egypt without being seen/noticed. as egypt was a nubian/indian(hyskos) country then, to be not noticed would mean he would have to fit in with the local population.

there is a new book out by micheal baigent, author of holy blood, holy grail that says pretty much the same.

there was a full-blown temple on elephant island, in the upper nile region. during his time there, j. was introduced to the mystery schools.

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/189/story_18902_1.html

a couple of video interviews; judge for yourself. i read the book and i don't particularly support many of baigent's interpretations, but that's just my opinion. his archeaological and documentary research are pretty thorough, unless he's fabricated the whole thing.