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deca
12-06-2008, 03:36 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7443104.stm

UK society 'demonising' children
Youth affected by "mosquito" device
An anti-teen sonic device was criticised by watchdogs

British children are being "demonised" by a society that is locking too many of them up, according to watchdogs.

The joint report by children's commissioners for all parts of the UK said attitudes towards youngsters were hardening across the country.

The experts said crime committed by children had fallen between 2002 and 2006, but the numbers criminalised had gone up by just over a quarter.

Their conclusions are part of a United Nations review of standards in the UK.

The four commissioners were appointed in a move to ensure children's rights are more effectively recognised by policy-makers.

Their report will be presented to the United Nations Committee on the Rights of the Child.

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They added that too many children were being put through the criminal justice system and the poverty experienced by one in three youngsters was unacceptable for a rich nation.

The experts said more children were scared in their neighbourhoods and, citing previous studies, drank more alcohol, had deteriorating mental health and felt more pressure at school than their European peers.

Public bodies are legally bound to put the best interests of a child first in decision-making. But the commissioners said this key legal safeguard had failed in some parts of the youth justice system for England and Wales.

"The system is dominated by a punitive approach and does not sufficiently distinguish between adult offenders and children who break the law," says the report.

"Compared to other European countries, England has a very low age of criminal responsibility and high numbers of children are locked up. Too many children are being criminalised and brought into the youth justice system at an increasingly young age."

Mosquito device

The report attacks the use by some shop-keepers, businesses and local authorities of the Mosquito teen deterrent.

The device emits a high-pitched squeal which can generally only be heard by the under-25s.

While ministers had not endorsed Mosquito, the commissioners said they had also done nothing to ban technology which indiscriminately affected those within its range.


This over-use of custody absorbs vast resources which would be better spent on tackling the causes of these problems by preventive work in the community
Paul Cavadino, Nacro

Kathleen Marshall, Scotland's commissioner, said: "We have highlighted areas that remain a concern, including significant differences in juvenile justice in some parts of the UK and the public's attitudes towards children and young people.

She added: "We look forward to briefing the Committee in Geneva to outline the findings of our report and to work with the Committee to make sure we can help improve things for children and young people in a tangible, sustainable and meaningful way."

Responding to the report, Children's Minister Beverley Hughes said: "We are 100% committed to improving children's wellbeing. Over the course of this government more than 600,000 children have been lifted out of poverty, almost 3,000 children's centres have been built and school funding has been increased by 87%.
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"However, we are not complacent. The fact that we created a new government department for children, schools and families shows how serious we are about helping families and communities to give their children a happy childhood.

"Our Children's Plan is our long-term vision to address many of the issues raised in the UNCRC report."

Paul Cavadino, chief executive of crime reduction charity Nacro, backed the suggestion that the youth justice system needlessly criminalises children.

"Every year we lock up thousands of young people with histories of physical and sexual abuse, parental neglect, family conflict, school exclusion, substance abuse and mental health problems," he said.

"This over-use of custody absorbs vast resources which would be better spent on tackling the causes of these problems by preventive work in the community."

kweli
12-06-2008, 03:45 AM
It makes me sick! Then again.. many of the so called 'awake' on this forum demonize children too. :(

lizzy
12-06-2008, 03:57 AM
It makes me sick! Then again.. many of the so called 'awake' on this forum demonize children too. :(

;)

icke_is_right
12-06-2008, 11:16 AM
It makes me sick! Then again.. many of the so called 'awake' on this forum demonize children too. :(

So many people seem to be demonizing everyone they don't like.

I know the article refers to under 25's but concerning children...I've only experienced problem parents (unless the child has a medical condition).

americana
12-06-2008, 01:01 PM
"Mosquito device

The report attacks the use by some shop-keepers, businesses and local authorities of the Mosquito teen deterrent.

The device emits a high-pitched squeal which can generally only be heard by the under-25s.

While ministers had not endorsed Mosquito, the commissioners said they had also done nothing to ban technology which indiscriminately affected those within its range."

Thanks for posting the article! This section above is most interesting to me.

Just this week, I read an article in The New Yorker regarding high-tech devices used by the military and adopted by the police. One term for such devices is "less than lethal". In other words, these are not GUNS, per se, or potentially LETHAL FORCE, but other means of stopping "criminals".

One method mentioned was SOUND as a means of keeping people out of areas, of controlling them.

Thus, I am wondering about "Mosquito", and whether this is something that could be "on" all the time. Let's say that a shop-keeper didn't like teens, or felt that teens were the cause of shop-lifting, etc., etc. Could this technology be used ALL THE TIME, to keep teens out? Wow.

At the moment, in the US, there are towns and cities with curfews for kids and teens. Something like this "Mosquito" could be a means of enforcement that is undetected . . . . that most people wouldn't know about and thus couldn't fight. WOW.

chrism
12-06-2008, 01:30 PM
This seems like another form of sonic warfare - the 55hz (?) 'Bowel Breaker' which makes people crap themselves is another example.

I know they have installed this by a McDonalds in Hertfordshire to keep the children away from the neighbouring buildings (a bank and offices) where they are unwanted, but surely there is a better way than making them feel uncomfortable. Especially as we have no idea of the impact this could be having on animals and even those who can't 'hear' it.

Kids hanging out has always been normal. When I was a kid, I would hang out with my mates in the local park, on the swings etc and occasionally get up to no good with the occasional cigarette, bottle/can of beer and Mary Sheldon*, but this was in a nice area and not harming anyone. Now there are no parks, there are too many alcoholic kids, and Mary Sheldon seems to have spawned an army of followers who are very happy to follow the trend of first kid at 17, council house at 18.

To us, cigarettes were special, beer was amazing and Mary was pretty bloody spectacular, I can tell you. These days, they are all very ordinary, which I think may be the problem. Children need their innocence back, in order to lose it at the right time.

Chrism

*Names have been changed to protect the not-innocent-at-all.

boots
12-06-2008, 01:54 PM
This seems like another form of sonic warfare - the 55hz (?) 'Bowel Breaker' which makes people crap themselves is another example.

I know they have installed this by a McDonalds in Hertfordshire to keep the children away from the neighbouring buildings (a bank and offices) where they are unwanted, but surely there is a better way than making them feel uncomfortable. Especially as we have no idea of the impact this could be having on animals and even those who can't 'hear' it.

Kids hanging out has always been normal. When I was a kid, I would hang out with my mates in the local park, on the swings etc and occasionally get up to no good with the occasional cigarette, bottle/can of beer and Mary Sheldon*, but this was in a nice area and not harming anyone. Now there are no parks, there are too many alcoholic kids, and Mary Sheldon seems to have spawned an army of followers who are very happy to follow the trend of first kid at 17, council house at 18.

To us, cigarettes were special, beer was amazing and Mary was pretty bloody spectacular, I can tell you. These days, they are all very ordinary, which I think may be the problem. Children need their innocence back, in order to lose it at the right time.

Chrism

*Names have been changed to protect the not-innocent-at-all.



Kids will always be kids they hang out and meet.

Although things have changed and the drugs are a lot more devastating than years ago when pot was the thing and wasn't as strong as it is today.

There is this fear, built up by the MSM to make everyone think that kids are dangerous and are just waiting to attack you.

So they come up with this shit using sound to control you Very SUS it opens the flood gate for more control and more sound devises for MORE mind control.

In the end it wont change things kids will still go and hang out.:rolleyes:

Except there will be less freedom and MORE control.

Nazi Germany anyone:mad::mad:

chrism
12-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Kids will always be kids they hang out and meet.

Although things have changed and the drugs are a lot more devastating than years ago when pot was the thing and wasn't as strong as it is today.

There is this fear, built up by the MSM to make everyone think that kids are dangerous and are just waiting to attack you.

So they come up with this shit using sound to control you Very SUS it opens the flood gate for more control and more sound devises for MORE mind control.

In the end it wont change things kids will still go and hang out.:rolleyes:

Except there will be less freedom and MORE control.

Nazi Germany anyone:mad::mad:

Bloody hell Boots - we agree on something!!!

I KNEW this would happen eventually...

Not sure about the Mind Control, cos I think at this point it is more about fear and pain, which admittedly leads to blindly following rules without knowing it (Pavlovian response etc) so this is more brainwashing than mind-control, buit let's not split hairs eh?

Just one Q - please explain 'MSM' for me and other ignorant fools. Cheers!

Chrism

americana
12-06-2008, 09:09 PM
[QUOTE=americana;384560]"Mosquito device

The report attacks the use by some shop-keepers, businesses and local authorities of the Mosquito teen deterrent.

The device emits a high-pitched squeal which can generally only be heard by the under-25s.

While ministers had not endorsed Mosquito, the commissioners said they had also done nothing to ban technology which indiscriminately affected those within its range."

I'm also thinking that this or a similar technology could be used at college campuses or any place where young adults (under 25) might be PROTESTING the war . . . .the NWO . . . or whatever . . . .

And as a "Non-lethal", even seemingly not painful form of control, this might gain currency . . . . .

(Although who is to know the long-range effects on the minds of kids and young adults whose brains are still developing!)