In the beginning was the Word,

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and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - John 1:1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oigtSg6ZFiw

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"By the word of Yahweh were the heavens made" (PSA.33:6).

"The word which was the first to appear, revealed to them the pure mind which speaks the One Word in silent grace." (Coptic - Gospel of Truth, p.37:7-12).

"They were penetrated by the word, and they knew Him that made them... For the dwelling-place of the Lord is man, and the Truth is Love." (Odes of Solomon 12:10-12).

The Holy Name or Word is itself the creative power and Life force of the Universe. This omnipresent, omnipotent, and omniscient primordial vibration is the very Essence of God - Pure Spiritual energy. It is the sustainer of all life, and operates through it's own subtle vibration resonating in the breath of every living being.

R. A. Anderson - Church of God? or The Temples of Satan p.88

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The human DNA is a biological Internet and superior in many aspects to the
artificial one. The latest Russian scientific research directly, or indirectly, explains
phenomena such as clairvoyance, intuition, spontaneous and remote acts of
healing, self healing, affirmation techniques, unusual light-auras around people
(namely 'spiritual masters'), mind's influence on weather-patterns and much
more. In addition, there is evidence for a whole new type of medicine in which
DNA can be influenced and reprogrammed by words and frequencies without
cutting out and replacing single genes [as I suggested in chapter five and in previous
books].
Only ten per cent of our DNA is being used for building proteins [many say 3%
to 5%]. It is this subset of DNA that is of interest to western researchers and is
being examined and categorized. The other 90% are considered 'junk DNA'. The
Russian researchers, however, convinced that nature was not dumb, joined
linguists and geneticists in a venture to explore those 90% of 'junk DNA'. Their
results, findings and conclusions are simply revolutionary! According to them, our
DNA is not only responsible for the construction of our body, but also serves as
data storage and in communication. DNA is an organic superconductor that can work
at normal body temperature, as opposed to artificial superconductors which
require extremely low temperatures to function. In addition, all superconductors
are able to store light and information. This further explains how DNA can store
information.
The Russian linguists found that the genetic code, especially in the apparently
useless 90%, follows the same rules as all our human languages. To this end they
compared the rules of syntax (the way in which words are put together to form
phrases and sentences), semantics (the study of meaning in language forms) and
the basic rules of grammar. They found that the alkalines of our DNA follow a
regular grammar and do have set rules just like our languages. So human
languages did not appear coincidentally but are a reflection of our inherent DNA
[the program].
The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist, Pjotr Garjajev, and his
colleagues, also explored the vibrational behaviour of the DNA. The bottom line was:
'Living chromosomes function just like solitonic-holographic computers using the
endogenous DNA laser radiation'. [Solitons are a special type of light wave that
doesn't change shape as it travels.] This means that they managed, for example, to
modulate certain frequency patterns onto a laser ray, and used it to influence the
DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself. [This process is what we call
'Evolution'', as I said earlier]. Since the basic structure of DNA-alkaline pairs, and of
language, are of the same structure, no DNA decoding is necessary. One can simply
use words and sentences of the human language! This, too, was experimentally
proven! [This phenomenon is captured in the water crystal images of Masaru Emoto
formed by words and frequencies.]

David Icke - Infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion p.199

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..watch this as it's most pertinent to what's been posted so far..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oigtSg6ZFiw

[manchurian_candidate]

I have re-read this thread twice now, very interesting Montag!!! :)

[spinoza]

All things came into light through Him, and without Him not one thing was made. The light is shining in the darkness, the darkness overpowered it not..

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XiUuCbeKAus&feature=related

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Interesting these frequencies of creation.

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Any realm in our current experience that takes form, vibrates or has rules, is a
program of the Matrix. New Age thought describes the different bodies that we
have in different dimensions. We have a 'physical' body in this world, but in the
astral realms we have an astral body that resonates to the frequency of that
dimension and so on. I agree with this, but these different holographic bodies relate
to different software programs within the Matrix and they are illusions. The
program is delivered to us through the DNA receiver/transmitters and these other
'bodies' within the Matrix have their version of DNA which, when you go beyond
the hologram, is a frequency field or waveform. Only when we become pure
consciousness in awareness of itself can we ditch the bodies and with them the
Matrix. Communicators from these other realms of the virtual-reality game speak of
living in a place that vibrates quicker than this world and so we cannot see it from
our density. Again, I have no problem with that. But the crucial word there is
vibrates. As the voice in Brazil said: 'If it vibrates, it's illusion'. What I experienced in
what I was told was a state of Oneness beyond the Matrix did not vibrate. It was
still or, at most, a slow-motion wave here and there. Everything just was and there
were no rules. This is a critical point. If there are rules, it's the Matrix.


David Icke - Infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion p.134

[steevo]

Very interesting reading. Thanks for posting Montag :)

[amethyst]

Interesting thread.

John 1:1: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


Interesting parallel.


Genesis 1:1 says: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.


John 1:2: The same was in the beginning with God.


At one point, the Word manifested in the flesh and became Jesus, the Christ.


Jhn 1:14: And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.


"What I experienced in
what I was told was a state of Oneness beyond the Matrix did not vibrate. It was
still or, at most, a slow-motion wave here and there. Everything just was and there
were no rules." - David Icke

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Thought this was an interesting article in light of the topic:

http://www.gnmagazine.org/issues/gn76/dinosaurs.htm

Where Do the Dinosaurs Fit?

Figuring out when the dinosaurs lived relative to man isn't really so difficult.
by Mario Seiglie
"I don't believe in the Bible because dinosaurs lived a long time before man ever did."

Have you ever heard a statement like that? I certainly have—many times. In fact, this was one of the principal reasons Charles Darwin, the father of the theory of evolution, eventually rejected the Bible. Many have followed suit.

Most people believe you can't reconcile dinosaurs and the Bible—but they are wrong. This erroneous idea is based on the supposition that either you have to believe in the young-earth theory of a 6,000-year-old earth and dinosaurs living with Adam, or you can't believe in the creation week account of Genesis 1.

Yet many would be surprised to find that several centuries ago scientists did believe in dinosaurs, an ancient earth and in creation week.

In fact, many of the first geologists who established the basic geologic column were believers in both the Bible and an ancient earth. British physicist Alan Hayward wrote about these premier geologists: "Among them were William Buckland and Adam Sedgwick. Buckland held the chair of geology at Oxford [University in England] in the early-nineteenth century, while Sedgwick was his counterpart at Cambridge. Both were leading churchmen, and both preached the plenary inspiration of Scripture and argued in favor of special creation ...

"Buckland maintained close links with Sedgwick and the famous French geologist, Baron Cuvier ... They did much to persuade the early nineteenth-century church that the earth was extremely old and that such views could be harmonized with the teaching of Genesis" (Creation and Evolution, 1985, pp. 72-73).

Proper chronological sequence

It is interesting to note that two Bible experts in the 1970s combined their skills to publish The Reese Chronological Bible, which supports an ancient earth and a creation week that actually involved a re-creation of a devastated earth.

Edward Reese was a professor of Bible, history and missions at Crown College in Powell, Tennessee, and spent 20 years putting biblical events in chronological order. Frank Klassen was an architect and engineer who spent 10 years writing The Chronology of the Bible. They both agreed regarding the account in Genesis that important biblical events occurred between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2.

In fact, they felt the first verses of the Bible chronologically would be John 1:1-2: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God."

This is the same way 20th-century Church of God leader Herbert W. Armstrong explained the real beginning of the biblical account.

Before space, matter and energy were created, there existed the Word (who would later become Jesus Christ, see John 1:14) and God (who later would be identified as God the Father).

Next in The Reese Chronological Bible comes a scripture that speaks of God existing before the creation of the earth, Psalm 90:2: "Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever You had formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God."

Then comes the traditional first scripture of Genesis 1:1: "In the beginning God created the -heavens and the earth." This marks the creation of the universe as we know it, including the galaxies, stars and planets.

But the most fascinating part of this Bible is what follows—not Genesis 1:2, but Isaiah 14:12-17, where Lucifer's fall from heaven is recorded. Next comes the parallel account of Lucifer's fall in Ezekiel 28:13-18.

Devastation and renewal

Only then comes Genesis 1:2: "The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters" (emphasis added). In the New International Version (NIV) of the Bible, a footnote to the word "was" in this verse says, "Or possibly became."

Apparently, something happened to cause the earth to become, as the Hebrew denotes, "chaotic and in confusion." Since God is not the author of confusion or chaos (Isaiah 45:18; 1 Corinthians 14:33), it makes sense that the earth became that way due to Lucifer's rebellion and subsequent expulsion to the earth.

As Jesus Christ remarked, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven" (Luke 10:18). Other scriptures reveal it was not only Satan, but also the fallen angels that were cast down with him. We read in 2 Peter 2:4 that "God did not spare the angels who sinned, but cast them down to hell [from the Greek tartaroo, a place of confinement, in this case the earth] and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved for judgment ..."

Revelation 12:3-4 describes the dragon (Satan, verse 9) as having drawn a third of the stars of heaven to be cast down to the earth—these "stars" being symbolic of angels (compare 1:20).

What we don't know is how long it took Lucifer to rebel—and how long this was before the six-day renewal of the earth culminating in the creation of Adam and Eve, as described in the rest of Genesis 1. Satan's rebellion apparently happened after the earth had passed through the dinosaur age. Then, geologists agree, something dramatic occurred between the age of reptiles and the age of mammals.

As the famous paleontologist G.G. Simpson once remarked: "The most puzzling event in the history of life on the earth is the change from the Mesozoic Age of Reptiles, to the ... Age of Mammals. It is as if the curtain were rung down suddenly on a stage where all the leading roles were taken by reptiles, especially dinosaurs, in great numbers and bewildering variety, and rose again immediately to reveal the same setting but an entirely new cast, a cast in which the dinosaurs do not appear at all, other reptiles are supernumeraries and the leading parts are all played by mammals of sorts barely hinted at in the previous acts" (Life Before Man, 1972, p. 42).

This apparently reflects the change from the pre-Adamic world to the world of man. Certainly there are smaller reptiles in our world, but they are insignificant in comparison to what existed in the previous age.

What has been presented here is not the only "ancient earth" explanation available, but it seems to make the most biblical sense. It is the only explanation I know of that accepts the literal 24-hour days of the creation (or re-creation) week and, at the same time, makes room for an indefinite period before the creation of mankind that could include the dinosaurs and previous eras.

Recent geological and astronomical discoveries, such as cosmic expansion and signs of meteor impacts at the geologic Cretaceous-Tertiary border, better known as the "K-T boundary," have only served to substantiate this view.

So, if anyone tells you he or she doesn't believe in the Bible because of a dilemma with the dinosaurs, let that person know there is more than the young-earth explanation available—one that fits well, as best we know, with the biblical facts. GN

[Ian2day]

and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - John 1:1

http://youtube.com/watch?v=oigtSg6ZFiw

Yeah whatever happened to that Christian bloke, yeah Terry Christian was his name ;)