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charlsright
09-06-2008, 04:48 PM
its so frustraiting any help would be good

the itinerant shrubber
09-06-2008, 04:51 PM
Bucket of ice water works well.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 04:53 PM
Bucket of ice water works well.

very funny
:cool:

qasrose
09-06-2008, 04:54 PM
:D.

Bring them to this forum mate, but my advice, try not to go too DEEP!!! into the rabit hole. because if you've got a fat ass, then you'll get stuck,

chappel
09-06-2008, 04:56 PM
start slowly by telling them shapeshifting reptillians from the 4th dimension run the world lol

charlsright
09-06-2008, 04:58 PM
start slowly by telling them shapeshifting reptillians from the 4th dimension run the world lol

xD tried that lol

cleft_asunder
09-06-2008, 04:58 PM
its so frustraiting any help would be good

You can't. It sounds like you've planted the seed already, so it either grows or withers and dies. The only thing you can do is be pationate about the truth, and when they see how serious you are, they might realize that maybe you're not just going through a phase. ;)

qasrose
09-06-2008, 05:00 PM
Try and use some subliminal messages on them :D

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:00 PM
there too focused on "ohh you need a job" "stop doing drugs" "go to collage"
MUM WERE IN A POLICE STATE AND ALIENS RUN THE WORLD

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:01 PM
Try and use some subliminal messages on them :D

lol ill just slip a few in

tiddles
09-06-2008, 05:03 PM
its so frustraiting any help would be good

What exactly do you mean by 'wake my parents up' and why do you want to do it?

qasrose
09-06-2008, 05:05 PM
What exactly do you mean by 'wake my parents up' and why do you want to do it?

He means he want's to tell his parents the truth on what is really going on all around us.

My real advice mate, is to get them interested, and talk to them when ever you get the chance too, tell them about Alex Jones and David Icke. And point them to information that is already on this forum..

Start with 9/11 and tell them what you already know

cleft_asunder
09-06-2008, 05:08 PM
there too focused on "ohh you need a job" "stop doing drugs" "go to collage"
MUM WERE IN A POLICE STATE AND ALIENS RUN THE WORLD

Yeah but you're just using that as an excuse to not do anything, such as getting a job, going to college, and quiting drugs.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:10 PM
ive tried to talk to them about micro chipping 911 cctv flouride chem trails and there still in the state of mind were work is the most imprtant thing money is important to survive the education system is the only way to learn and im stupid becuase i try and say about how school is a brainwash camp
(obvisly i go in to as my deatil as i can) but there still blind gharr and i have to live with them

qasrose
09-06-2008, 05:15 PM
ive tried to talk to them about micro chipping 911 cctv flouride chem trails and there still in the state of mind were work is the most imprtant thing money is important to survive the education system is the only way to learn and im stupid becuase i try and say about how school is a brainwash camp
(obvisly i go in to as my deatil as i can) but there still blind gharr and i have to live with them

As morphues says in the matrix..

Some people at a certain age have trouble waking up.....

Well somewhere along those lines lol.....

I'd just leave it to be honest and work on your self, because there is alot of people now all over the world that are waking up to the goverments lies

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:19 PM
As morphues says in the matrix..

Some people at a certain age have trouble waking up.....

Well somewhere along those lines lol.....

I'd just leave it to be honest and work on your self, because there is alot of people now all over the world that are waking up to the goverments lies

because they have been part of this system for 40 years i know its just frustraiting for a 16 year old to try and live like this

Mo0n5tar
09-06-2008, 05:22 PM
Bust those paradigms!

You need to start being a grown up though, no use living under their roof and chastising them for paying council tax and the like.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:24 PM
Bust those paradigms!

You need to start being a grown up though, no use living under their roof and chastising them for paying council tax and the like.

what can i do at 16?

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:25 PM
also how do i get a display picture ?

eyepod
09-06-2008, 05:38 PM
Your probably best to leave them get on with it. Some people just don't want to listen or be waken up from rat world. Been there, seen it, done it.

They're especially unlikely to listen to you being so young. They'll have you shipped down the doctors for some Ritalin and anti-depressents if your not careful or report you to the cops for being a subversive!

Save yourself!

But if you really want to pass some information on you will have to be subtle, I don't think it will help preaching to them. Start them with baby steps, Codex Alimentarius might be a good one. Once they get that then you can widen your attack. ;)

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:45 PM
yeah i spose but its so obvious whats hapening around us. ill just keep myself to myself.

the itinerant shrubber
09-06-2008, 05:47 PM
Make predictions and make sure they remember you predicted it in the first place. Once you know the principle of problem-reaction-solution,it becomes apprent that the PTB are nothing if not predictable. The Iran invasion for example would need a major false flag operation to galvanise the public into supporting it so you could mention that or that the idea of impeded microchips will begin to be drip-fed to the masses by making us think they're cool by targeting the young etc.
And when what you predicted eventually happens and they remember what you said - Boomshanka baby!!
Explain problem-reaction-solution to them and they will begin to see how you see.

davelove
09-06-2008, 05:47 PM
call childline. thatll put the shakes up em!!

charlsright
09-06-2008, 05:50 PM
thanks fo rthe help people and i think i will talk to them about PRS but if they continue to be the way they are then i spose i may just have to let them be.

ownedtbh
09-06-2008, 06:00 PM
dont tell them about lizards talk to them about things that have and are happening. things that you can prove. lizards are not something you can so leave it out. talk to them about 911 an how an why the towers fell tell them about the shite they put in our food and water tell them about history flase flags ect. work on it slowly that way. thats what am doing at the moment an ive got my mother to stop taking aspartame and working on it 1 piece at a time

charlsright
09-06-2008, 06:05 PM
dont tell them about lizards talk to them about things that have and are happening. things that you can prove. lizards are not something you can so leave it out. talk to them about 911 an how an why the towers fell tell them about the shite they put in our food and water tell them about history flase flags ect. work on it slowly that way. thats what am doing at the moment an ive got my mother to stop taking aspartame and working on it 1 piece at a time

lol kool ok well ive have got as far as my mum calls a glass of tap water a glass of flouride lol and shes aware of aspartame but shes a housewife and cant understand about how the food were being fed is bad

mari
09-06-2008, 06:25 PM
lol kool ok well ive have got as far as my mum calls a glass of tap water a glass of flouride lol and shes aware of aspartame but shes a housewife and cant understand about how the food were being fed is bad

Whoa! :eek:- I'm one of 'them', & I can tell you we're not all dead from the neck up.

I'm having a job trying to 'inform' my daughter, & my son - well he takes the p**s out of my ideals whenever he can, just to wind me up, but thats cool for him & okay by me.
The 16 year-olds at our local school are SO into the system that they very effectively 'police' themselves - you know - they're not tolerant of anyone who tries to be 'different'. My friend, who is a teacher there, wears her hair very long (down to her bum) & has been the target of all kinds of jibes - both good & negative. They can't get over the fact that a 'mature' woman would want to wear her hair long.
Different example, I know, but the same cause: refusal to think outside of the box.
Affects ALL generations.;)

charlsright
09-06-2008, 06:29 PM
Whoa! :eek:- I'm one of 'them', & I can tell you we're not all dead from the neck up.

I'm having a job trying to 'inform' my daughter, & my son - well he takes the p**s out of my ideals whenever he can, just to wind me up, but thats cool for him & okay by me.
The 16 year-olds at our local school are SO into the system that they very effectively 'police' themselves - you know - they're not tolerant of anyone who tries to be 'different'. My friend, who is a teacher there, wears her hair very long (down to her bum) & has been the target of all kinds of jibes - both good & negative. They can't get over the fact that a 'mature' woman would want to wear her hair long.
Different example, I know, but the same cause: refusal to think outside of the box.
Affects ALL generations.;)

^^ its hard at both ends of the scale. i saw through school just after i left i never really conformed i hated not being able to discuss the authenticity of the information given to me by my teacher and also individualality is punishable sigh ah well this world will learn soon enough =) god luck with your children ^^

mari
09-06-2008, 06:41 PM
^^ its hard at both ends of the scale. i saw through school just after i left i never really conformed i hated not being able to discuss the authenticity of the information given to me by my teacher and also individualality is punishable sigh ah well this world will learn soon enough =) god luck with your children ^^

Thanks. Not many young adults manage to get through the system 'unprogrammed', but I think you are going to be one of them:cool:

charlsright
09-06-2008, 06:46 PM
Thanks. Not many young adults manage to get through the system 'unprogrammed', but I think you are going to be one of them:cool:

=) i just want the world to love

mari
09-06-2008, 07:00 PM
=) i just want the world to love

"Be the change you want to see in the world." Ghandi said.

Just be your authentic self, & you will give the 'green light' for others you interact with, to be the same.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 07:22 PM
"Be the change you want to see in the world." Ghandi said.

Just be your authentic self, & you will give the 'green light' for others you interact with, to be the same.

yeah well i have no mask to hide behind
i dunno what im sposed to do next tho i dont go school collage or have a job

danster82
09-06-2008, 07:51 PM
I dunno you could try and put an alarm clock in their room and set it for about 7.00am

charlsright
09-06-2008, 07:56 PM
I dunno you could try and put an alarm clock in their room and set it for about 7.00am
even taht wouldent wake them up xD

marpat
09-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Make predictions and make sure they remember you predicted it in the first place. Once you know the principle of problem-reaction-solution,it becomes apprent that the PTB are nothing if not predictable. The Iran invasion for example would need a major false flag operation to galvanise the public into supporting it so you could mention that or that the idea of impeded microchips will begin to be drip-fed to the masses by making us think they're cool by targeting the young etc.
And when what you predicted eventually happens and they remember what you said - Boomshanka baby!!
Explain problem-reaction-solution to them and they will begin to see how you see.


You mean manipulate the way they think by guessing? what if you are wrong 9 times out of 10 do you think that one time will make convincing proof?

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 09:02 PM
You mean manipulate the way they think by guessing? what if you are wrong 9 times out of 10 do you think that one time will make convincing proof?

You truly are a poisoner arn t you, you twisted prick:eek:

I cannot believe the vomit you come out with:mad:

PUT your picture on your profile,
so we can see what a muppet you really are:mad:

marpat
09-06-2008, 09:08 PM
You truly are a poisoner arn t you, you twisted prick:eek:

I cannot believe the vomit you come out with:mad:

PUT your picture on your profile,
so we can see what a muppet you really are:mad:


Still gibbering on I see. That guy was suggesting that people use manipulation to get people to believe in the NWO.

Am I obliged to put my picture on the profile? I think not. Why do you want my pic, are you in love with me or something?

Perhaps you should contribute to the thread rather than trying to monopolise my online time. You're like a tedious manic depressive.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 09:22 PM
sigh

why cant we all love each other as one

marpat
09-06-2008, 09:25 PM
sigh

why cant we all love each other as one

I know, we are all part of one vast consciousness but some people are just full of hate for anybody who has their own ideas. We are all part of each other so my hope is that by sending LB good vibes he will find some healing. I know I can be hard on him but he needs a kick to wake up at times. The surgeons knife sometimes has to cut deep to remove the deepest tumors.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 09:32 PM
to be honest because there is so much hate in this world so much evil so many people locked up in cages all our children minds are being washed all the water the food the air is tapped i really want some sort of restart i dont care if its the elite killing 80% or if the earth fights back with all forse and wipes this planet clean there is to much negativity in comparison with positivity my soul feels traped in this body in this prisen this reality. sigh
if we all just loved then problem would be solved i meen all

h1s_l0rdsh1p
09-06-2008, 09:39 PM
its so frustraiting any help would be good

Just don't.
In such messures, they must find their own way.
If they don't, don't worry. They will be back again to try again.
That's the way it has to be.

shea
09-06-2008, 09:42 PM
First things first mate
you have to get your parents to like you first.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 09:42 PM
Just don't.
In such messures, they must find their own way.
If they don't, don't worry. They will be back again to try again.
That's the way it has to be.
ahh i remeber i already thought that
i must have compleltly forgot before i wrote this thread
man i suck xD

iitokio
09-06-2008, 09:43 PM
Try doing a problem-reaction-solution on your parents hehe. Then use it as an example of how they are being taxed for thier heavy polluting cars without significant scientific and historical evidence to support it. Records begun in the 1800's, thats like a milisecond in the earth's history. :)

shea
09-06-2008, 09:45 PM
why dont we all ask ICKE what to do?

He will surely know.

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 09:49 PM
I know, we are all part of one vast consciousness but some people are just full of hate for anybody who has their own ideas. We are all part of each other so my hope is that by sending LB good vibes he will find some healing. I know I can be hard on him but he needs a kick to wake up at times. The surgeons knife sometimes has to cut deep to remove the deepest tumors.

You truly are twisted:eek:

Is there only one cowpat,,, by the sounds of it,

i am sure there are many:eek:

shea
09-06-2008, 09:53 PM
stop whining you girlygirl.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 09:55 PM
stop whining you girlygirl.

exactly
xD

marpat
09-06-2008, 09:58 PM
You truly are twisted:eek:

Is there only one cowpat,,, by the sounds of it,

i am sure there are many:eek:


Don't worry, I am sure all the good people in here will send you some positive vibes and help you defeat that inner demon.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:00 PM
ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE
(listen to the beatles they might help you out)

shea
09-06-2008, 10:05 PM
Take the hint mate, Your on your own in this " Eternal struggle "
Your'e a dick

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:06 PM
Take the hint mate, Your on your own in this " Eternal struggle "
Your'e a dick

lol i ent on my own in this eternal struggle
i have my higher self to keep me company

shea
09-06-2008, 10:08 PM
lol i ent on my own in this eternal struggle
i have my higher self to keep me company

keep tellin yerself that. say hello to yer parents for me. have they accepted you yet?

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:09 PM
keep tellin yerself that. say hello to yer parents for me. have they accepted you yet?

xD
nope there still the way there were yesterday

Jane643
09-06-2008, 10:13 PM
its so frustraiting any help would be good

My mother is more clued up than most.
We were reading about the bin men who have said that if they can't pick up your bin with two fingers then it is too heavy.
She said she was going to ring them and ask which two fingers were they planning to use.........were they being rude and sticking two fingers up at us all and did they plan to walk around making rude signs at everyone all day ?

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:16 PM
My mother is more clued up than most.
We were reading about the bin men who have said that if they can't pick up your bin with two fingers then it is too heavy.
She said she was going to ring them and ask which two fingers were they planning to use.........were they being rude and sticking two fingers up at us all and did they plan to walk around making rude signs at everyone all day ?
love it ^^

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 10:18 PM
stop whining you girlygirl.

Go and join king and country,

BUFFOON:D:D

With ya mate cowpat,

No wonder England has gone to the dogs:rolleyes::D:D
DIS INFORMERS YOU ARE GOING DOWN......


Love your avatar,charlsright:)

do not listen to the dis informers,they are here to exhort there twisted
ways upon people,
we know who they are,

keep on the right track,you are doing well:):)
i also love your profile picture:cool:so cool:)

phoebe
09-06-2008, 10:42 PM
What you are saying you want to do is to bring your parents
around to your perspective of reality.
To see the world the way you see it.
Why would you want to do that?

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:43 PM
Go and join king and country,

BUFFOON:D:D

With ya mate cowpat,

No wonder England has gone to the dogs:rolleyes::D:D
DIS INFORMERS YOU ARE GOING DOWN......


Love your avatar,charlsright:)

do not listen to the dis informers,they are here to exhort there twisted
ways upon people,
we know who they are,

keep on the right track,you are doing well:):)
i also love your profile picture:cool:so cool:)

haha thaks =)
i dont mind people so its all good
you cant argue with opinion if someone thinks im wrong
then in there reality they are correct

marpat
09-06-2008, 10:43 PM
Go and join king and country,

BUFFOON:D:D

With ya mate cowpat,

No wonder England has gone to the dogs:rolleyes::D:D
DIS INFORMERS YOU ARE GOING DOWN......


Love your avatar,charlsright:)

do not listen to the dis informers,they are here to exhort there twisted
ways upon people,
we know who they are,

keep on the right track,you are doing well:):)
i also love your profile picture:cool:so cool:)


The last gasp of a desperate person. Perhaps you should tell them you spent time in a psycho ward.

Don't you think yu are being a bit selfish in hijacking somebodies thread to attack people who have their own opinions.

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:43 PM
What you are saying you want to do is to bring your parents
around to your perspective of reality.
To see the world the way you see it.
Why would you want to do that?

so i can talk and be apart of my familly

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 10:51 PM
The last gasp of a desperate person. Perhaps you should tell them you spent time in a psycho ward.

Don't you think yu are being a bit selfish in hijacking somebodies thread to attack people who have their own opinions.

you have been found out:p:p:p

charlsright
09-06-2008, 10:54 PM
you have been found out:p:p:p

i dont get it

ill carry on living in ignorance ^^

cyberdaemon
09-06-2008, 11:05 PM
I actually didnt read the most post in this topic , but my opinion is that if you want to wake up someone , you got to become close to that person IN SPIRIT before you start talking about all the stuff!

phoebe
09-06-2008, 11:22 PM
so i can talk and be apart of my familly

You already are a part of the family.
You only FEEL alienated because of your
differing belief system.
I'd be willing to bet your parents love you
and that you love them.
Don't let beliefs get in the way of that.

phoebe
09-06-2008, 11:26 PM
You truly are a poisoner arn t you, you twisted prick:eek:

I cannot believe the vomit you come out with:mad:

PUT your picture on your profile,
so we can see what a muppet you really are:mad:

wow, I can feel the light just pouring out of you...

meave
09-06-2008, 11:33 PM
you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink

charlsright
09-06-2008, 11:40 PM
you can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink

i knew that would come in somewere xD
too true

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:41 PM
wow, I can feel the light just pouring out of you...

yeah a wrathful light:rolleyes::D

With compassion comes wisdom dearest,

if you let people get away with everything,
this world would be a lot darker than it already is;)

and with age comes wisdom dearest;):D

charlsright
09-06-2008, 11:43 PM
yeah a wrathful light:rolleyes::D

well isnt that just great to hear :D
your really lighting the place up

meave
09-06-2008, 11:44 PM
i knew that would come in somewere xD
too true

teach by example and learn everything TRUTH always shines throught it just takes a while

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:45 PM
sometimes we have to take off the rose tinted glasses;)

charlsright
09-06-2008, 11:46 PM
teach by example and learn everything TRUTH always shines throught it just takes a while

yeah like in a room which is completly dark light a match and the darkness flees

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:47 PM
i dont get it

ill carry on living in ignorance ^^

you need a little more life experience oh young one;):D:D

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:47 PM
yeah like in a room which is completly dark light a match and the darkness flees

yer getting it:D:D

charlsright
09-06-2008, 11:48 PM
you need a little more life experience oh young one;):D:D

hehe dint you get the sarcasm
and how do you know how many lives ive lived ?
:)

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:49 PM
hehe dint you get the sarcasm
and how do you know how many lives ive lived ?
:)

i know do you know;):D:D

everything is EMPTINESS,and before you say, its not my head:D:D

you have obviously been a native American indian,and a sadhu,oh and a zen monk;)

as i have been a Tibetan monk,and a yogi,

we all have glimpses of our former lives,

thats what makes us what we are today.....

charlsright
09-06-2008, 11:52 PM
i know do you know;):D:D

enlighten me =D

phoebe
09-06-2008, 11:53 PM
yeah a wrathful light:rolleyes::D

With compassion comes wisdom dearest,

if you let people get away with everything,
this world would be a lot darker than it already is;)

and with age comes wisdom dearest;):D

and I suppose with age and wisdom comes
an immensely patronising tone as a freebie?

phoebe
09-06-2008, 11:55 PM
everything is EMPTINESS

This is completey erroneous.

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:56 PM
and I suppose with age and wisdom comes
an immensely patronising tone as a freebie?

i think the patronizing is coming from your side;)dearest,

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:58 PM
This is completey erroneous.

and how is this based on error or in correction,
do please enlighten me:confused:

where is phoebe,
no matter how hard you search you will never find a truly existent phoebe;)dearest,,

lightgiver
09-06-2008, 11:59 PM
enlighten me =D

search your thoughts, the answer is already there;):)

charlsright
10-06-2008, 12:00 AM
and how is this based on error or in correction,
do please enlighten me:confused:

your suposed to be enlightening me :D

tom_doe
10-06-2008, 12:00 AM
I tried to wake up my parents too. Very difficult. My mum doesn't even listen. My dad knew that conspiratists run the world long before I was born. I told him all the 9/11 stuff and he believes me. I can talk with him about this things. He knows that events like wars or conflicts are created. He knows that banks and governments are corrupt. He's even familiar with some of the spiritual stuff.

BUT

He just keeps saying: "I used to be like you. You can do nothing about it, care about your own ass and keep your head down" :(

Damn, I could explode inside every time I hear that :mad:

charlsright
10-06-2008, 12:00 AM
search your thoughts, the answer is already there;):)

oh yeh did
ima mister impatiant

phoebe
10-06-2008, 12:01 AM
i think the patronizing is coming from your side;)

When in Rome, dearest, when in Rome. ;)

phoebe
10-06-2008, 12:01 AM
and how is this based on error or in correction,
do please enlighten me:confused:

Search your thoughts,
the answer is already there ;)

rossus
10-06-2008, 12:02 AM
i recommend you show them the documentary "Koyaanisqatsi" or "Baraka"

these 2 documentaries are great in showing the contrast between life how it should be...
and life how it is in the capitalistic societies.

for more info about these documentaries,
visit:

www.spiritofbaraka.com

another great documentary is called "the War on Democracy" by John Pilger.
this documentary talks about the many wars USA has done versus smaller countries,
in order to expand the Capitalist Empire.

The war on democracy is available online here (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148)



Too bad there is copyright on these documentaries,
because they would be great to show them to the public for free.

charlsright
10-06-2008, 12:02 AM
I tried to wake up my parents too. Very difficult. My mum doesn't even listen. My dad knew that conspiratists run the world long before I was born. I told him all the 9/11 stuff and he believes me. I can talk with him about this things. He knows that events like wars or conflicts are created. He knows that banks and governments are corrupt. He's even familiar with some of the spiritual stuff.

BUT

He just keeps saying: "I used to be like you. You can do nothing about it, care about your own ass and keep your head down" :(

Damn, I could explode inside every time I hear that :mad:

thats exactly how my dad is and exactly what he said

sigh

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:03 AM
When in Rome, dearest, when in Rome. ;)

what about the in breath;):D copy cat:p:D;)

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:05 AM
thats exactly how my dad is and exactly what he said

sigh

My parents are the same:eek:

its called ostrichososis:D:D

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:09 AM
i recommend you show them the documentary "Koyaanisqatsi" or "Baraka"

these 2 documentaries are great in showing the contrast between life how it should be...
and life how it is in the capitalistic societies.

for more info about these documentaries,
visit:

www.spiritofbaraka.com

another great documentary is called "the War on Democracy" by John Pilger.
this documentary talks about the many wars USA has done versus smaller countries,
in order to expand the Capitalist Empire.

The war on democracy is freely available online here (http://video.google.nl/videoplay?docid=-3739500579629840148)

superb documentaries;):)especially the quatsi trilogy,got em all:cool:
music by phil glass ,very haunting.......

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:12 AM
your suposed to be enlightening me :D

you can only enlighten yourself;):D

charlsright
10-06-2008, 12:12 AM
superb documentaries;):)especially the quatsi trilogy,got em all:cool:
music by phil glass ,very haunting.......

yeah well im to poor as a young teenager with out a job or many qualifications to afford such things xD
but i have seen Koyaanisqatsi

rossus
10-06-2008, 12:13 AM
you can download them ;)

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:15 AM
yeah well im to poor as a young teenager with out a job or many qualifications to afford such things xD
but i have seen Koyaanisqatsi

when you have wisdom you are the wealthiest person on the planet;):D

seek the ancients wisdom,
but make sure you tread on the right path;)
as there are many paths,but only one truth;):D

charlsright
10-06-2008, 12:17 AM
you can download them ;)

with what program do you suggest

charlsright
10-06-2008, 12:19 AM
when you have wisdom you are the wealthiest person on the planet;):D

seek the ancients wisdom,
but make sure you tread on the right path;)
as there are many paths,but only one truth;):D

which path do you tred apon ?

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:22 AM
I tried to wake up my parents too. Very difficult. My mum doesn't even listen. My dad knew that conspiratists run the world long before I was born. I told him all the 9/11 stuff and he believes me. I can talk with him about this things. He knows that events like wars or conflicts are created. He knows that banks and governments are corrupt. He's even familiar with some of the spiritual stuff.

BUT

He just keeps saying: "I used to be like you. You can do nothing about it, care about your own ass and keep your head down" :(

Damn, I could explode inside every time I hear that :mad:

been to Bavaria,beautiful place,i still have my photographs,
that is one place i have to go back to before i die:D

your parents are suffering from ostrichososis,
quite prevalent these days due to fear, of what others may think;):D:D

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 12:30 AM
which path do you tred apon ?

Your path:D i am not here to dictate,
only to guide:)
with age comes wisdom:)
well with some anyway,
Use your wisdom and inner voice;)
but when that voice does come, sometimes it is not always right;)
so tread carefully and with caution,
sometimes we learn from our mistakes:)
your parents sound like nice people,
listen to their advise,they have been on the planet a while:)
but you must follow your own path,
as long as it is true and righteous and just:)
and you do not purposely hurt others,:)

happy treading,
i am off to bed now,to meditate,night night................

meave
10-06-2008, 10:34 AM
enlighten me =D

you can only enlighten yourself:)

charlsright
10-06-2008, 11:14 AM
i have awoken (again) =D
last night was a rollacoaster

john white
10-06-2008, 11:43 AM
How can i wake my parents up

its so frustraiting any help would be good

You don't: everyone wakes themselves up

Just love them and pursue your responsibility to wake yourself up: and let nature take its course: your success will become their opportunity: but first you need to suceed

aznality
10-06-2008, 12:46 PM
Just don't go too deep at once. If you instantly say the reps are running the world, you would expect people in general to laugh at you. My brother is a sheeple, but I only tell him about the illuminati and secret societies, etc. He doesn't necessarily believe it, but he doesn't have any opinion against mine either. You have to slowly point out things and work on it.

Anders Lindman
10-06-2008, 01:01 PM
its so frustraiting any help would be good

But do they WANT to be woken up? Sometimes it feels comfortable to be asleep. Especially for people who have a long lifetime of firm belief patterns.

A huge part of one's whole world view can be turned upside-down if it turns out that the 911 attack for example was an inside job. For many people it's easier to believe in Santa Claus than to believe 911 was an inside job. It's simply too far from what we ordinary have been trained for decades to believe.

sevenworlds
10-06-2008, 01:03 PM
Focus on your own awakening at all times. Follow it through wholeheartedly. Right action will be an effortless automatic result of that. This action has more power and is more likely to wake someone else up than by trying to do anything. Action can sometimes mean doing nothing btw. Should they wake up you will realise that you didn't wake them up at all, it simply happened.

charlsright
10-06-2008, 01:03 PM
i spose we all have our own lessons to learn in life and have our own paths to take

Anders Lindman
10-06-2008, 01:05 PM
start slowly by telling them shapeshifting reptillians from the 4th dimension run the world lol

Yeah, and tell them that Hillary Clinton eats two toddlers for breakfast. :D

cafe beelzebub
10-06-2008, 04:59 PM
start slowly by telling them shapeshifting reptillians from the 4th dimension run the world lol

lol, yeah i would also suggest starting with the most ridiculas and unprovable elements of the conspiricy theories first! :D

shout it really loud at them over breakfast.

marpat
10-06-2008, 07:25 PM
when you have wisdom you are the wealthiest person on the planet;):D

seek the ancients wisdom,
but make sure you tread on the right path;)
as there are many paths,but only one truth;):D

Why seek ancient wisdom? wisdom is wisdom and is not dependant on it's age for proof or it's validity. The fact is that ancient wisdom was relevant for the people who lived back then and you need to refresh the mind of humanity with wisdom that is valid to people as they are now otherwise it will be classed as irrelevant setimentalism.

lightgiver
10-06-2008, 07:55 PM
Why seek ancient wisdom? wisdom is wisdom and is not dependant on it's age for proof or it's validity. The fact is that ancient wisdom was relevant for the people who lived back then and you need to refresh the mind of humanity with wisdom that is valid to people as they are now otherwise it will be classed as irrelevant setimentalism.

WHATEVER:pi still feel sorry for you........

marpat
11-06-2008, 09:02 PM
WHATEVER:pi still feel sorry for you........

What? I make a vaild statement and you just act like a child. The fact that it is ANCIENT wisdom means that it belongs in the past, not that it contains any more truth than can be found using modern expressions. Obviously you prefer to have your truth put into nice old stories rather than expressed in modern language. Maybe if I expressed a belief in fairies then we might be able to communicate on a similar level.

lightgiver
11-06-2008, 09:04 PM
What? I make a vaild statement and you just act like a child. The fact that it is ANCIENT wisdom means that it belongs in the past, not that it contains any more truth than can be found using modern expressions. Obviously you prefer to have your truth put into nice old stories rather than expressed in modern language. Maybe if I expressed a belief in fairies then we might be able to communicate on a similar level.

GO AWAY:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:pMPD

marpat
11-06-2008, 10:08 PM
GO AWAY:p:p:p:p:p:p:p:pMPD

It's a pity that you got out under care in the community. Is this where you first encountered your MPD?

Lightbender, don't you tink you are being a bit selfish here? someone wants to discuss how to wake his parents up and you are abusing this thread to launch attacks at me. Perhaps you should show some of your so-called maturity and get back on topic.

krixo
12-06-2008, 01:17 AM
to be honest because there is so much hate in this world so much evil so many people locked up in cages all our children minds are being washed all the water the food the air is tapped i really want some sort of restart i dont care if its the elite killing 80% or if the earth fights back with all forse and wipes this planet clean there is to much negativity in comparison with positivity my soul feels traped in this body in this prisen this reality. sigh
if we all just loved then problem would be solved i meen all

Ye would be good to start over with a new loving world