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king

13-04-2007, 10:20 PM

Global warming and global dimming

I watched ‘Global Dimming’ on Google Videos…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=39520879762623193&q=global+dimming&hl=en
and I could not think anything else but that powers to be are just fucking with our brains BIG TIME.

You already heard that story that after 9/11 when all flights were grounded the temperature around the globe changed for 1 degree!
I mean, those scientists figured out that we, humans are influencing the weather to that extent that we can change our environment for a whole fringing degree!!!!
I mean one degree difference in temperature!!
This should put us in PANIC !!!

OMG, world is coming down!
Armageddon. This is it – the end of the world!
Everyone PANIC!

Conveniently, the real reason for global warming and manipulation of weather was not even mentioned. You know those chemical clouds known as chemtrails, numerous HAARP-like heaters and extensive fucking with the weather streams was not even mentioned.

So, In this same video we were informed that airplane contrails are good for our planet, they are ‘protection’.
Coincidentally contrails looked in this video exactly like chemtrails… (wink, wink)
Well, if this is not one of the best examples of brainwashing I do not know what it is.

Of course, scientific charts, that is “proofs” were also shown in the video.

But, best thing to do is watch it yourself and see how propaganda/predictive programming works, together with confusing the minds of those who are intended to see this video to a point that they just “leave this thing to experts" (scientists)

And, unless you KNOW what the agenda is, unless you know how and what and why they are doing this – you will swallow it hook line and sinker.

But, for those few who can ‘read between the lines’ because they are informed and who can think independently -- this video could be a perfect example of disinformation and predictive programming tactics.

Back to video;
I love how they injected phrases as “on a biblical scale” and “strike again”
to stir up the emotions of enormous catastrophe. But, sadly they were also using emotional images of dying third world children to drive the point that world is in dire danger. In a sense those fuckers are just opposames of TV doom and gloom evangelists who use emotion and fear to frighten, rob and extort the people.

I like how they peddled that global warming can intensify as the amount of sunlight dimming.
Say what?

Now, if people are unable to see through this logical fallacy – then we are all in deep shit.

But, the best part is how creators of the video are then shifting that if global dimming begins to weaken -- global warming will be means to our end.
According to them, either way -- we are fucked.

Interestingly, people think that religion is what is fucking with human minds and what is creating wars, but if you just think for a second you can realize that Science is what Religion used to be, that is Science nowadays The Only Religion, and this is a really scary one because so many people believe it unquestionably, they do not even realize that the one who controls the science controls the humanity.
And, i believe that those who even begin to analyze this video will immediately see the same think that i am talking about and that just like me they would laugh their asses off, even though this is not laughing matter.
And, next time when someone tells you that he or she is a scientist you should just start laughing hysterically.... and then tell him/her:

"i am sorry, i think scientists are total frigging idiots"
I am sure that you will have more then enough knowledge to prove them that they are idiots.

someone said that that scientists are just like a bunch of lab monkeys
who are smashing things, making them explode and who write scribbles that they call 'theories' that are later proven to be wrong.

I think that this is very much correct, because what great good has science given to humanity?
Name one thing that we cannot live without!
now, name things that they have fucked up and destroyed?

After all, scientists are the ones who are making the weapons of mass destruction, not some priests in drag. Modern science is the Religion of worst kind!

BTW, note how not a single respected scientist in this field was even mentioned in the video.
do you wonder why?
Because this drives Global Warming SCAM and goo, true scientists are not putting their signature on a SCAM!

phoenix1

13-04-2007, 10:52 PM

lookfar

13-04-2007, 11:24 PM

Great spot on post there king :)

I recall watching this a few years ago before I 'woke up' & must admit it had me convinced at the time. It wasn't until I got exposed to the truth & bigger agenda that I saw it for the crock of shit that it is. It's totally obvious to see now, but wasn't at the time.

Hey Phoenix, you got it there buddy!! :)

aznality

13-04-2007, 11:43 PM

I've always known global warming was just a theory (and I never believed it either). Yet the media makes us believe it is fact.

phoenixchilde

13-04-2007, 11:57 PM

phoenix1

14-04-2007, 12:05 AM

aznality

14-04-2007, 12:09 AM

Hey don't forget, the gov manufactures their own proof to justify their claims.

(e.g. weapons of mass destruction owned by Iraq) <--- where the f*** are they?

phoenix1

14-04-2007, 12:12 AM

I love how people post links to google videos like it's a credible source of information. News flash, it's about as credible as Wikipedia.

Google Videos and Utubes plant seeds like wickedpedia.

I agree Wicked is biased no end..the really GOOD stuff that was on Google has gone, or you cant burn it even with Nero7 Premium reloaded.

Take out the "Flashing Gems" when watching anything..allways they forget those.

One to Another

Phoenix1:) :D :) :cool:

welfarewarrior

14-04-2007, 12:13 AM

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=286000425078890061&q
:rolleyes:

phoenix1

14-04-2007, 12:19 AM

Hey don't forget, the gov manufactures their own proof to justify their claims.

(e.g. weapons of mass destruction owned by Iraq) <--- where the f*** are they?

Absolutely Aznality..the contingency plans are there too, thing is all the plans are full of holes, nothing really goes the way they intend it too, they forget the Cosmic Minority who DO have a clue,

And as for the Weapons Of Mass Destruction...where are they...I beat the fuckers too them and they are now in my shed....which is empty lol.

They wern't there for oil or weapons.

They were there for future days.....old technology, and there to meet the end of their days.

Bring it on eh...have spsceship...need crew:) Lookfar is co-pilot, so far and deca is Master at Arms..along with lookfar too. heheh

pollock

14-04-2007, 12:25 AM

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=286000425078890061&q
:rolleyes:
Hilarious, the guy in the cowboyhat saying; "we need to meddle some more, and maybe do something good this time" and the guy who wants to send a trillion:eek: glas discs into space are my favourites!

Humbug
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phoenix1

14-04-2007, 12:28 AM

I've always known global warming was just a theory (and I never believed it either). Yet the media makes us believe it is fact.

Just Like Darwinism "The Theory" Bullshit..starts something like millions and millions and millions millions millions and millions and millions and millions and millions millions millions and millions and millions of years ago ..in fact 13.4 BILLION years 4 months and 7and a half days and at exactly on that day...this happened,,lol....yeah they were there then.....the media that is LOL
hehhehehheh:)

Global warming my fuckin arse BOLLUX says the phoenix
and bollux to all those millions and millions of years ago too!!

If there was global warming the Phoenix would know. Experts in heat, and degrees, lol

phoenix1

14-04-2007, 12:34 AM

Hilarious, the guy in the cowboyhat saying; "we need to meddle some more, and maybe do something good this time" and the guy who wants to send a trillion:eek: glas discs into space are my favourites!

Humbug
F

Haha yeah the cowboy guy...bloody hell not even 2 mins into the vid, dear oh dear.
Pollock coming on my spaceship ??:)

lookfar

14-04-2007, 01:00 AM

Charts . Pictures, Textbooks,"education in Schools" Eeperts, spokesmen/women/persons..saying so.

Good god If they say so well you just KNOW its the truth right LOL hehehh, Fuckers,

HI LOOKFAR...YOU GORGEOUSNESS YOU!!!

HOW couldI stay away when you are posting in here,,,,woops of topic 3 points to me please, no 1/2 at least half was on topic:D :D

LOOKFAR woahhh:p

Hey Phoenix sweetie, it's good to have you back here :D Be right there on your spaceship too... & there's plenty of room for others!!:)

Anyway back on topic... global warming... what a load of bollocks IMO!!!

king

14-04-2007, 09:31 AM

I love how people post links to google videos like it's a credible source of information. News flash, it's about as credible as Wikipedia.

Global warming is real. The whole planet changing by one degree is a big difference. If you take a look into meteorology and weather patterns you'll see that one average degree has a large effect on global weather patterns.

There's plenty of proof that global warming is real.

then explain WHY temperature chart that showed LONG TERM temperatures by national weather bureau has been replaced with short term chart?

the chart that was removed PROVED that there was no global warming.

maybe someone can bring the link to the old chart

with all do respect, you need to know more about world and methods of the elite before you can make informed conclusions on global warming.

what do you know about chemtrails? how many years have you personally researched this issue? what about HAARP? can you figure out when they are cranking it up by
feeling the energy of it and brightness of the skies? can you recognize ''haarponised' chem clouds?
can you predict what weather will be next day by looking in clouds?

king

14-04-2007, 09:56 AM

Global Warming Is A Professional Politician's Scam And I'm Fed Up Of These Lying Modern-Day Cretins
Posted by Mark23 on Tuesday, 13 March 2007 19:47:56

From the huge number of 'global' threats that this government keep on chucking at the media, this one is a complete scam and a half.

- There are no indicators over the past 500,000 years that C02 has driven climate. In fact, over the same time period, C02 levels have followed, not led temperature changes by 800 years. This is exactly the wrong way round that the global warming scammers, and their ignorant herd followers who think themselves experts, would need to have it if there was any credence to the theory.

- Even if C02 DID cause climatic changes - and I emphasise there is no evidence for this from graphs of temperature vs C02 from 8 independent ice core studies - human contribution through both their animal and industry is pitifully small as a percentage of total C02 emissions per year, and volcanoes produce more C02 per year. Even if CO2 did drive climate - which all the ice core studies suggest is NOT the case, in fact rises in temperature CAUSES rises in CO2 levels and is not an EFFECT of it - I'M SURE GORDON BROWN WOULD LIKE TO TELL YOU THAT PAYING MORE TAX WILL ALLOW HIM TO STOP THOSE GLOBAL VOLCANOES.

- Earth's climate undergoes changes ALL THE TIME due to solar activity fluctuations. Studies of sun spots and the sun over the past 100-200 years show a direct correlation between solar activity and temperature - perhaps NOT SURPRISINGLY! There have been greater rates of warming historically. During medievil times, before any industry, there were vineyards in London, and it was a time of great wealth and prosperity.

- Ice cap melting is a natural part of Earth's climatology. It's happened before, it will happen again, and then they re-freeze when the Sun's activity again reduces. NO AMOUNT OF TAXATION ON PEOPLE FLYING MORE THAN ONCE A YEAR IN SPAIN WILL CHANGE ANY OF THIS!

From all sides, form both the politicians and the media (particularly Auntie BBC) we are being lied to to justify more tax, and more interference of the government in the economy. It's that simple.

It's a farce, a myth and Mr Cameron's attempts to appease the far left 'I think living in a mud hut is better than a house' environmentalist scammers is about doing it for me, Mr Cameron!

http://www.webcameron.org.uk/blogs/3056

king

14-04-2007, 10:15 AM

we had coldest winter.

Why is "coldest" so little reported? "Hottest" gets prominent reports all the time

is it because someone has an agenda to push?

here is some more food for the thought:

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Global warming theory spins out of control.

This 'theory' is supposed to be 'a few weeks old'. It's the first time I've seen an outright claim that 'global warming' will kill most of the earth's population by 2012. Interesting timing, eh?

The spin is military and civil unrest danger. If this sticks it ups the ante from pollution threat, to 'National Security' threat.

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Over 4.5 Billion people could die from Global Warming-related causes by 2012

Hydrate hypothesis illuminates growing climate change alarm

The Canadian (newspaper)
Compiled by John Stokes
http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/home/Frontpage/2007/01/08/01291.html

A recent scientific theory called the "hydrate hypothesis" says that historical global warming cycles have been caused by a feedback loop, where melting permafrost methane clathrates (also known as "hydrates") spur local global warming, leading to further melting of clathrates and bacterial growth.

In other words, like western Siberia, the 400 billion tons of methane in permafrost hydrate will gradually melt, and the released methane will speed the melting. The effect of even a couple of billion tons of methane being emitted into the atmosphere each year would be catastrophic.

The "hydrate hypothesis" (if validated) spells the rapid onset of runaway catastrophic global warming. In fact, you should remember this moment when you learned about this feedback loop-it is an existencial turning point in your life.

By the way, the "hydrate hypothesis" is a weeks old scientific theory, and is only now being discussed by global warming scientists. I suggest you Google the term.

Now that most scientists agree human activity is causing the Earth to warm, the central debate has shifted to when we will pass the tipping point and be helpless to stop the runaway Global Warming.

There are enormous quantities of methane trapped in permafrost and under the oceans in ice-like structures called clathrates. The methane in Arctic permafrost clathrates is estimated at 400 billion tons.

Methane is more than 20 times as strong a greenhouse gas as CO2, and the atmosphere currently contains about 3.5 billion tons of the gas.

The highest temperature increase from global warming is occurring in the arctic regions-an area rich in these unstable clathrates. Simulations from the National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) show that over half the permafrost will thaw by 2050, and as much as 90 percent by 2100.

Peat deposits may be a comparable methane source to melting permafrost. When peat that has been frozen for thousands of years thaws, it still contains viable populations of bacteria that begin to convert the peat into methane and CO2.

Western Siberia is heating up faster than anywhere else in the world, having experienced a rise of some 3C in the past 40 years. The west Siberian peat bog could hold some 70 billion tonnes of methane. Local atmospheric levels of methane on the Siberian shelf are now 25 times higher than global concentrations.

By the way, warmer temperatures and longer growing seasons have caused microbial activity to increase dramatically in the soil around the world. This, in turn, means that much of the carbon long stored in the soil is now being released into the atmosphere.

Releases of methane from melting oceanic clathrates have caused severe environmental impacts in the past. The methane in oceanic clathrates has been estimated at 10,000 billion tons.

55 million years ago a global warming chain reaction (probably started by volcanic activity) melted oceanic clathrates. It was one of the most rapid and extreme global warming events in geologic history.

Humans appear to be capable of emitting CO2 in quantities comparable to the volcanic activity that started these chain reactions. According to the U.S. Geological Survey, burning fossil fuels releases more than 150 times the amount of CO2 emitted by volcanoes.

Methane in the atmosphere does not remain long, persisting for about 10 years before being oxidized to CO2 (a greenhouse gas that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years). Chronic methane releases oxidizing into CO2 contribute as much to warming as does the transient methane concentrations.

To summarize, human activity is causing the Earth to warm. Bacteria converts carbon in the soil into greenhouse gasses, and enormous quantities are trapped in unstable clathrates. As the earth continues to warm, permafrost clathrates will thaw; peat and soil microbial activity will dramatically increase; and, finally, vast oceanic clathrates will melt. This global warming chain reaction has happened in the past.

Atmospheric concentrations of CO2 rose by a record amount over the past year. It is the third successive year in which they have increased sharply. Scientists are at a loss to explain why the rapid rise has taken place, but fear the trend could be the first sign of runaway global warming.

Runaway Global Warming promises to literally burn-up agricultural areas into dust worldwide by 2012, causing global famine, anarchy, diseases, and war on a global scale as military powers including the U.S., Russia, and China, fight for control of the Earth's remaining resources.

Over 4.5 billion people could die from Global Warming related causes by 2012, as planet Earth accelarates into a greed-driven horrific catastrophe.

Bibliographic reference courtesy of Brad Arnold who has an extensive resrarch background on Global Warming.
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The UN Population Fund has a target population goal of 500 million by mid century.

The 'Georgia Guidestones', a monument that appeared in 1980 with only a reference to having been paid for bay an 'R.C. Christian' (a word play on Christian Rosenkranz), states a goal of 500,000,000 (5 million) toal earth population.

Maurice Strong, author of the Kyoto Protocols also wants population reduction to half a billion.

How can they expect to reach that goal without another term for 'population reduction'? (G e n o c i d e)
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The global warming scam co-opts genuine environmental matters. China is exempt from the Kyoto Protocols (authored by Maurice Strong), yet is already the worlds leading mercury polluter. And that's airborne mercury emissions that drift outside their borders.

Real environmental concerns are things like direct pollution that poisons rivers and air with toxic waste. That is deliberately left out of the global warming scenario of the UN Kyoto Protocols. Not to mention genetically altered agriculture--those oranges with zero vitamin C. We're in trouble here fellas.
So Co2 is and natural methane is the big culprit, eh? Yeah, get shot for exhaling or farting. Never mind the depleted uranium and napalm of wars. Evidently those aren't harmful.

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4 Billion dead in the 2010s must, at least, be getting someone tenure.

Yep. somebody's gonna get a gold star for that if they can pull it off.
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What effect would this have on the world's water supply?

Good question, because water 'scarcity' is part of this long term scheme.

Again, study all you can find about Maurice Strong. He's a major player in this 'movement'. The real motive and goal behind co-opting valid environmentalism is the way it can be used as a cover for man-made scarcities. Water scarcity can be created.

Strong and those he represents have long planned to gain control of water. Water is an ultimate means of control, if a situation is created in which someone has a monopoly on it. Unlike oil, we need water to live.

Global warming isn't environmental issue, it's a natural cycle between ice ages. The Earth has been steadily warming by fractions of a degree each century since the end of the last ice age. Any Russian climate scientists will tell you that, and that Co2 cannot reverse this cycle.

From what I've studied, I find that global warming theory suits plans drafted years ago, embedded in the Agenda 21 documents, and other United Nations, Council on Foreign Relations, and Royal Institute on International Affairs documents over the last twenty years. The language is deceptive as they write in the language of environmentalism, so deep reading from cover to cover is required to find the poison pills. Most people simply don't have the time or inclination to read these documents. But they're the best way to approach a discussion with those who are so convinced of global warming disaster that they've become global warming activists. They're getting their information from Al Gore. I would ask any global warming enthusiast to simply read these documents. (As a matter of fact I'm in the process of digesting these sources down into a form that can be distributed as a .pdf)

What they've envisioned is a global government which owns the human environment. Not just natural recources, but water and air as well. To achieve this grand dystopia, they have to override regional sovereignty and governments, specialize regions as to what they are allowed to produce (so that no region can be self-sufficient), and split people off from each other by confining the populations to 'habitat areas'. You'll find this in the Agenda 21 document. The habitat area plan calls for a population number that cannot be exceeded. The method for maintaining such equalibrium is simple--those who exceed it will not get more than their allotment of food, water, and resources. In short, man made famine and drought until the population dies off to the number they allow.

The documents must be read with keen attention, as they have a deceptive language and terms to mask the horrid aspects.

NATO, for instance, has plans already drawn up for handling various 'emergencies'. For one, in an epidemic scenario, it's on the books that any of a population who tries to leave the containment area are to be killed on sight by helicopter or containment troops.

I don't agree with Alex Jones that they're already in a position to do any of these things now. I'm just exposing that global warming--which has come out of nowhere and is a massively funded propaganda fraud---is designed to trick the public world wide into accepting increasing degrees of UN authority over national sovereignty. Environmental issues are a good means for achieving that goal, since they can claim that what one nation does with it's own resources and water can wreck the whole planet.

I'll mention again that the Kyoto Protocols, being sold to the American public right now, leaves China exempt. China's allowed to build as many coal fired electric plants as they want. India also. Also the military of the world aren't mentioned for curtailment at all. That should tell a lot of people something.

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king

14-04-2007, 10:19 AM

this is a great book and great site on subject:

'GLOBAL WARMING': AN OFFICIAL PSEUDOSCIENCE '

by Paulo N. Correa, M.Sc., Ph.D. & Alexandra N. Correa, HBA

http://www.aetherometry.com/global_warming/gw_index.html

ABSTRACT

On Nov. 1, 2005, Lawrence Livermore Laboratories announced that "if humans continue to use fossil fuels in a business-as-usual manner for the next few centuries, the polar ice caps will be depleted, ocean sea levels will rise by seven meters and median air temperatures will soar to 14.5 degrees warmer than current day..." You might think that this would be a preamble to demanding investment by industry and/or governments in alternative energy research. But you would be wrong - for it is, in fact, nothing more than scare propaganda to resign you to even more gouging by the oil companies at the gas pumps and the extortionist prices now being paid for natural gas; all in order to bring us to our knees begging for more nuclear power plants, and oil and gas exploration. LLN no longer hides its being one more power mechanism dedicated to this sort of indoctrination.
By now you should have figured this one out. Recent years have witnessed a series of fear-mongering alarmist fads in pseudo-scientific meteorology and climatology, each promoted in succession by news media and mainstream science publications. Perhaps the most expensive example of these mass-hysterias is the pseudoscientific fad of 'global warming'. The present article is an examination of the science behind the ideology of 'global warming', as well as the social and political forces driving its promotion.

Few scientists would dispute the fact that climate is changing on a planetarian scale, and there are good reasons to believe that some of the changing features are not part of a natural variation, but consequences of man-made pollution. What every good scientist will dispute, however, is whether this observed and ongoing change is, as the promoters of the 'global warming' myth dogmatically assert, an upward change in the atmosphere's mean global temperature - and whether the mechanism responsible for it is CO2 emission from fossil fuel combustion. Present-day climatology is vulnerable to these kinds of faddist dogmas - pushed forward as part of a political and media-driven agenda - because it lacks a functional, comprehensive, systematic and interconnected understanding of the nonlinear system formed by the atmosphere, the oceans, the land mass and the biosphere, and their interaction with solar radiation. The discoveries and methods of Aetherometry provide inroads towards developing such an understanding, beginning with a new understanding of the role of the Sun and solar radiation in modulating weather patterns over short and long-term scales.

I - THE FAD, THE MYTH AND THE FUDGE OF 'GLOBAL WARMING'

1. The pseudoscientific fads of Official Climatology and Environmental Sciences

There is perhaps no clearer example of the arbitrary vagaries of mainstream peer-review and its promotion of non-scientific fads, driven by political and economic interests, than the recent promotion of the pseudoscientific myth of 'global warming', systematically accompanied by the recurrent fits of public hysteria it engenders amongst scientists, politicians, environmentalists (another type of politico), mainstream science journals and mass-media.

Fads of this type - the fear-mongering alarmist type - have become the mainstay of official mass-media and the object of sensationalistic 'science-journalism'. There's been a whole series of such fads associated with pseudo-scientific meteorology and climatology, that are cyclically promoted by syndicated news media and official or mainstream science publications.

In the 70's, in the wake of the atmospheric cooling experienced between 1945-1947 and 1972, there was a passing fad of 'global' cooling, supposedly buttressed by study of the fossil record and ice samples, which had 'established' the existence of cycles of minor ice-ages (see reference to the Milankovich model below). At that time, the fear was that the earth was just turning the corner into a new ice-age. Any notion of global warming was strictly anathema. Instead, it was argued that man-made contributions would aggravate this cooling by the production of carbon and sulphur aerosols. As Richard Lindzen points out [1], some of the best-selling authors of this rubbish, like Stephen Schneider and Crispin Tickell, have now, not so surprisingly, moved on to become apologists of the 'global warming' hysteria. Lindzen may argue that, amongst scientists, the fad was shortlived; yet, it is worth mentioning that, besides an ambiguous report by the NRC of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, the two reports that initiated the 'global cooling' fad - on the natural prediction of an ice age as the trend of future climate [2], and on the effects of CO2 and aerosols on cooling global climate [3] - were both published in the journal Science, the very same peer-reviewed journal that now promotes the 'reality' of 'global warming'.

Next came the fad of acid-rain, then one heard about cows and termites being a significant source of atmosphere-polluting methane (that one was dear to Reaganism in the early 80's), then about the hole in the stratospheric ozone layer over Antarctica (back in 1985, by the British Antarctic Survey, BAS), and finally 'global warming' came of age. Each fad came with smidgens of truth scattered about in a tissue of lies, unverifiable axioms and perverse falsification of facts. And, of course, each also came with an ever growing number of climate modellers, now armed with supercomputers...

Pseudoscientific fads do not have, nor do they need, any reason to come about, being set in motion solely by the political and social forces that promote them, and the vested interests they serve. Climatology and other environmental sciences are particularly vulnerable to this sort of manipulation because, as Lindzen puts it, "rigor is generally impossible" in these disciplines. But since these fads are supposed to be 'scientific', they are compelled to search for pseudo-evidence which may serve as the excuse (the 'scientific reason') for their promotion in mainstream journals and the media. Typically there is a little truth in this pseudo-evidence, but its generalization or interpretation falsifies the facts and the data, undermining both the value and the quality of the latter.

Next: The social forces driving the hysteria of 'global warming'
Top of document: 'Global Warming': An Official PseudoScience

phoenixchilde

14-04-2007, 07:23 PM

Hey don't forget, the gov manufactures their own proof to justify their claims.

(e.g. weapons of mass destruction owned by Iraq) <--- where the f*** are they?

Would that be why the US Government keeps saying that global warming doesn't exist? The million dollar question is why are all you people agreeing with George Bush?

phoenixchilde

14-04-2007, 07:35 PM

with all do respect, you need to know more about world and methods of the elite before you can make informed conclusions on global warming.

The problem is that I do know about the methods of the elite. That's why they pay these "scientists" to tell people like you that global warming is a farce.

That is why governments are refusing to adopt policies banning SUVs and other gas guzzling vehicles that serve no practical purpose. If the governments and elite really wanted us to believe in global warming, they'd create the policies that the public and scientists keep recommending, wouldn't they?

That's why Kyoto was created. If you've actually looked into Kyoto, it leaves loopholes for the rich countries to keep polluting. That allows them to win votes with the liberal left wingers by making it look like they're solving the problem when they're really not.

pollock

14-04-2007, 09:39 PM

Pollock coming on my spaceship ??:)
Well, as soon as I am sure that we can't just send the bastards of instead (I still carry around some attachments to this planet) I will think about it:D :D :D !

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king

15-04-2007, 02:10 AM

arrrggghhhh!

i just lost my reply to a post, a full page of response.
it sux.

i am getting too frequently errors while posting, something that "you are not on right thread"
then my post usually gets lost unless i can manage to copy the text to clipboard and re-paste it

anyone else getting this?

king

15-04-2007, 10:51 AM

Global Warming SCAM! (An Inconvenient Truth)
Global Warming SCAM! (An Inconvenient Truth) - YouTube

A Terrifying Message from Al Gore
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Mayan Calendar and global warming
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

phoenixchilde

15-04-2007, 11:45 PM

If there was global warming the Phoenix would know. Experts in heat, and degrees, lol

I don't know about where you are bro, but around here, things are heating up. back in the 90s, 31 degrees was considered a heat wave, now, a normal summer day is between 30 and 35 degrees. This ain't coming from any government or media source, this is personal experience.

King, if you have something from personal experience, something not from Youtube, or some other unreliable source, something that's not pages long, that can discount global warming, please bring it up.

king

16-04-2007, 07:32 PM

I don't know about where you are bro, but around here, things are heating up. back in the 90s, 31 degrees was considered a heat wave, now, a normal summer day is between 30 and 35 degrees. This ain't coming from any government or media source, this is personal experience.

King, if you have something from personal experience, something not from Youtube, or some other unreliable source, something that's not pages long, that can discount global warming, please bring it up.

yes, here in California we had the most extreme weather, not only hottest days, but also the coldest days ever.
just a few months back we had such cold weather that avocados froze in solid ice and this made national news.
coincidently, i knew that this would happen somewhere because Canadians ended up "missing" their cold winter.
the reason i knew this is simple; friend of mine whom i picked up from the airport and who spent a week in Canada
was perplexed as why weather was o mild in that time of year in that place where he used to live for years.

I knew then that someone will get that cold weather, and i was not mistaken.

now, doesn't this experience contradict global warming theory?

coincidentally -- California started experiencing bad weather after they started heavily chemtrailing.

I moved to CA in 1980's because i got tired of Chicago crazy weather, now we are getting the same thing here.

And, i can feel when ionospheric heaters are cranked up because it feels like we are in the oven, and you can see the clouds on the skies that are broken to geometric patterns.

and why do you think that youtube is "unreliable source"?

isn't every source unreliable unless you use your common sense to filter out B.S..

and, please give me an example of reliable source, whom do you trust unconditionally?

phoenixchilde

18-04-2007, 04:42 AM

yes, here in California we had the most extreme weather, not only hottest days, but also the coldest days ever.
just a few months back we had such cold weather that avocados froze in solid ice and this made national news.
coincidently, i knew that this would happen somewhere because Canadians ended up "missing" their cold winter.
the reason i knew this is simple; friend of mine whom i picked up from the airport and who spent a week in Canada
was perplexed as why weather was o mild in that time of year in that place where he used to live for years.

I knew then that someone will get that cold weather, and i was not mistaken.

now, doesn't this experience contradict global warming theory?

No, it doesn't. Crazy global weather patterns fits perfectly. When was the last time that you had frozen vegetables in California? Do you remember that happening before?

And, i can feel when ionospheric heaters are cranked up because it feels like we are in the oven, and you can see the clouds on the skies that are broken to geometric patterns.

Ionoswhat? Chemtrailing? Can you present at theory that doesn't sound like it came from a James Bond movie or Saturday morning cartoon?

and, please give me an example of reliable source, whom do you trust unconditionally?

Me.

carlg1212

18-04-2007, 04:49 AM

Even if it is forced to happen, "they" will MAKE it happen, to usher in mass flooding and screwed up weather.

It snowed in New York on Saturday. The middle of April, ffs.

carlg1212

18-04-2007, 04:51 AM

A Terrifying Message from Al Gore
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BjrOi4vF24&mode=related&search=

I've always loved seeing puppets dance, especially intelligent puppets with a message. Only, I can see through the Al Gore puppet. He is translucent, like the wings of a bee. Fly away, Al. Fly, fly, fly.

mark717

29-05-2007, 01:55 PM

all we need is more pirates to save us....
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~bgmark_quik/pirates.jpeg

baron von lotsov

29-05-2007, 05:32 PM

Yeah the Global Warming Scam...the next 9/11 to backfire on the Global Elite
maybe. If Global warming was right, considering solar flares,and their intensity,imagine the heat!! and if there was an ozone "Hole" we would have been TOAST Years ago.

Yeah Global Warming is utter crap.

The ozone hole issue was a 'legitimate' campaign to ban CFCs because the patent held for them was due to run out since patents are only valid for 25 years. They were scared that companies would manufacture refrigerants with no profit to them and so in order to save this precious multinational (It could have been Dupont or similar) it was necessary to create an ozone hole. Other holes subsequently developed in people's brains, especially the ones who were members of Greenpiece and Friends of the Dupont.

rastamasta

29-05-2007, 05:42 PM

Google Video : The Great Global Warming Swindle (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4499562022478442170&q=great+global+warming+swindle)