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655321
03-06-2008, 05:00 AM
The major trump cards portray incidents from the Book of Revelation

http://www.starbridge.com.au/images/opt/big/Le-Monde--The-World.jpg

Revelation 4:7 The first creature was like a lion, and the second
The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like a young bull, the third had a face like a human, and the fourth was like a flying eagle. ...

thirdwave
03-06-2008, 10:53 AM
Interesting stuff...

popeye11
03-06-2008, 08:16 PM
This is an extremely interesting thread and I hope it goes well because I would really like to know what these cards could be telling us. "The Tower" card comes to mind and how it is smashed in almost every tarot deck. I thought about it when the towers went down 9/11, not that this was the biggest mishap to happen, but because it seems the world started to speedily go down the tubes at that point.
I am not a religious person, but it seems as though revelations may be playing out for some odd reason. Maybe there are enough religious people who need this or someone is trying to make people believers. Don't know.
BUT, I would love to be able to figure out what comes next.

655321
04-06-2008, 12:51 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Tree_of_life_wk_03.jpg

http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/secret_teachings_of_all_ages/an_anaylsis_of_tarot_cards.htm

From masonic website:

Most writers on the Tarot (Mr. Waite a notable exception) have proceeded upon the hypothesis that the 22 major trumps represent the letters of the Hebrew alphabet. This supposition is based upon nothing more substantial than the coincidence that both consist of 22 parts. That Postel, St. Martin, and Levi all wrote books divided into sections corresponding to the major Tarots is an interesting sidelight on the subject. The major trump cards portray incidents from the Book of Revelation; and the Apocalypse of St. John is also divided into 22 chapters. Assuming the Qabbalah to hold the solution to the Tarot riddle, seekers have often ignored other possible lines of research. The task, however, of discovering the proper relationship sustained by the Tarot trumps to the letters of the Hebrew alphabet and the Paths of Wisdom thus far has not met with any great....

popeye11
04-06-2008, 02:10 AM
Yes, 655321, I am not a mason, but I have The Secret Teachings and have studied all this stuff trying to make some sense out of it.
What do you see in it personally?
You must think there is something to it or you would not be taking the time to put this up.
In other words, have you figured anything substantial out?

655321
04-06-2008, 05:35 AM
Sources of the Waite/Smith Tarot Symbols by Robert V. O'Neill, Death .... The apron of the Templar orders shows a Skull and Crossbones as seen on the reins ...

http://www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/maj13.jpg

"The Order of Death" picks up where "Dark Secrets" leaves off. This new work exposes the connections between the Bohemian Club and Skull and Bones and other ...

http://planetquo.net/PRS/WTC-SUN%20(425%20x%20643).jpg

The Sun and the Moon are implicit in this card. The Crashing Towers from the The Moon (Tarot card) frames a setting (some say rising) Sun. Death wears black ...

655321
04-06-2008, 05:39 AM
The Swiss psychologist, Carl Jung, saw all of the Tarot images as "descended ...... Jung, C.G. (1959/1990). The archetypes and the collective unconscious. ...


http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/images1/tarot_tower_wtc.gif

The Collective Unconscious is attempting communication with the mass ..... on 9-11 is sort of a modern archetypal version of the Tower of Babel event. ...

655321
04-06-2008, 05:44 AM
Host Bill Maher called 9/11 truthers "lunatics," and demanded they stop requesting him "raise this ridiculous topic on this show and start ...

http://www.starbridge.com.au/images/opt/big/La-Lune-The-Moon.jpg

... Ah, so if we believe 9/11 was an inside job we’re all crazy people and lunatics.

http://www.sinj.com/the-moon-tarot/images/wtc-towers-moon.jpg

Lunacy may refer to:. Lunacy, slang for mental illness ·

thirdwave
04-06-2008, 01:48 PM
First of all its important people understand the meaning of the word Apocalypse, it means "Revealing" or "Unveiling"... its not a negative word... not saying you guys don't already know that..

then also I think the Tarot have a very deep meaning that mirrors our world...

if you look at the tower card... which is card no 16.

http://www.psychic-mystic.com/images/Rw0016.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1134/1214806756_37b724f8c4_o.jpg

the card means Trauma and shock... disaster... downfall...

card 17 is the star
http://www.midnightmoonchild.com/images/star.gif

the card means, Freedom, New faze... rebirth... Positive change... Renewal... New horizons..

card 18 is the moon
http://www.crystalinks.com/moontarot.gif


the card can mean, spiritual development.... sleep, peace, quite, relaxation.. magick… other dimensions..

card 19 is the sun
http://www.kch42.dial.pipex.com/images/XIXsun.jpg
http://www.hellshaw.com/reeducks/thoth/pics/sun.jpg

it means, Rejoice, celebration… happiness, love.


Card 20 is the Judgment/Aeon
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/1/1a/150px-Major_20.jpg
http://www.taratarot.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/theaeonthoth.jpg

it means Awakening… seeing what one could not see before… enlightenment… Devine guidance..

Card 21 is The world/Universe
http://www.alizons-psychic-secrets.com/images/alizons-psychic-secrets-tarot-world.jpg
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/6581/thoth_universe_b.JPG

it means Conclusion, end of a cycle…fulfillment, satisfaction...



Very interesting indeed…

popeye11
04-06-2008, 05:55 PM
That's good thirdwave, or you could go up the tree instead maybe and have a choice of three ways to go.

The Devil (materiality) Temperance (balance or the true self) Death (transformation).

The Devil: Where most people seem to be, sleeping through everything. No waking choice here. Same old same old.
Temperance: I think some are finishing up the game in this focus and ready to join back with their true self and begin an entirely new game.
Death: Perhaps some want to continue on with somewhat the same game, but on a more peaceful level. What some of the new-agers call ascension.

I'd love to hear thoughts on this, but in a kind way. Remember, I'm just throwing out some ideas I have had. Right or Wrong. :)

2013
04-06-2008, 08:08 PM
The world or universe card represents the grand cross alignment of 1999 .When the constellations formed a Cross with the fixed signs at the four points .Taurus ,Leo , Scorpio ,and Aquarius .This is seen to herald a new age dawning the sign in the sky and the cross being the sign of Jesus and Christianity .It is associated to some as the new Jerusalem descending to earth , and perhaps this is what the people behind 9/11 took as the signal to bring down the towers the old order and usher in the new .This grand cross occurred 7 days after the solar eclipse of that year .Heres just one interpretation of the card when doing a goggle search .apparently this grand cross alignment happens only once every 24,000 years so it could signify a new phase under the fixed elements and Aquarius age .The Gods Enki and Enlil where given Ages to rule over earth , is this the beginning of a new rule ? or what they are trying to manipulate .Perhaps the new rulers are returning here and the ones in power dont want to give up the day job and are panicking with the imminent return hence the recent announcements regarding UFO Alien existence .:D
http://www.nick2211.yage.net/aug18.htm
The World is similar to the Wheel of Fortune in both layout and symbolism but, in this card, the head of the bull faces outward. This signifies that the completion of human evolution has now taken place. The androgyne "world dancer" figure represents the evolutionarily perfected man or woman - the individual who has achieved the final state, usually known as "cosmic consciousness," or "enlightenment."

popeye11
04-06-2008, 08:42 PM
This sounds good 2013, but we humans, as a whole, don't look too enlightened, IMO. In fact if anything, it looks like some may be getting dumber than ever and we still seem to be glued to that old cross of space time. BUTT, an notice my big but here, are we just not quite there yet, haha. :)

2013
04-06-2008, 11:29 PM
This sounds good 2013, but we humans, as a whole, don't look too enlightened, IMO. In fact if anything, it looks like some may be getting dumber than ever and we still seem to be glued to that old cross of space time. BUTT, an notice my big but here, are we just not quite there yet, haha. :)

Well lets hope that all our higher selves are aware and that the collective consciousness is feigning ignorance in order to bluff the PTB so we can sail straight thru just when they think they have it all sown up!!:D

revelations
04-06-2008, 11:44 PM
Great Thread!!! :cool:

thirdwave
05-06-2008, 12:15 AM
That's good thirdwave, or you could go up the tree instead maybe and have a choice of three ways to go.

The Devil (materiality) Temperance (balance or the true self) Death (transformation).

The Devil: Where most people seem to be, sleeping through everything. No waking choice here. Same old same old.
Temperance: I think some are finishing up the game in this focus and ready to join back with their true self and begin an entirely new game.
Death: Perhaps some want to continue on with somewhat the same game, but on a more peaceful level. What some of the new-agers call ascension.

I'd love to hear thoughts on this, but in a kind way. Remember, I'm just throwing out some ideas I have had. Right or Wrong. :)

the more i study the cards and how deep they go the more amazing they get... people dont realise how much depth is in the cards and how long they have been around..

655321
05-06-2008, 02:00 AM
Temperance: I think some are finishing up the game in this focus and ready to join back with their true self and begin an entirely new gamek.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/tarot/pkt/img/ar14.jpg

He planted his right foot on the sea and his left foot on the land, (Rev. ... John’s description points to this angel as Jesus Christ the King of Glory. ...

revelations
05-06-2008, 02:13 AM
Keep them coming 655321 this is interesting! :cool: :)

popeye11
05-06-2008, 05:46 AM
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/tddanae/rosecr.gifhttp://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s64/tddanae/walker1.jpg

This one has my vote. I'm ready to fold up and go home, so-to-speak.

655321
05-06-2008, 07:35 AM
Babylon (or the Whore) is also described as sitting upon many waters (Revelation 17:1);

http://www.learntarot.com/bigjpgs/maj17.jpg

While the tour was being produced the chosen name was rumored as The Whore of Babylon Tour, but Madonna herself confirmed this rumor was not true. ...

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/all_seeing_eye/madonna.jpg

NAB - Revelation 17
2: 3 The kings of the earth have had intercourse with her, and the inhabitants of the earth...

655321
05-06-2008, 07:40 AM
.. Madonna has reportedly written a new song inspired by the Kabbalah. ... part of the world as it exists because of her esoteric religion... ...Religion news articles about religious cults, sects, world religions, ... Madonna’s kind of a Kabbalah is a new presentation of ancient Hebrew beliefs. ...

http://www.beautifulmadonna.com/madonnasex/022.jpg

The point the author was making was that the new religion was being built upon ... and make them understand what is being planned by the New World Order, ..No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." ... The New World Order IS about religion. It is about worshipping Lucifer. ....

popeye11
05-06-2008, 04:14 PM
Good Morning Ladies and Gents

Shocking, isn't it? Well, I think some of us have known this for some time.
We can hope that many are feigning ignorance and when that cosmic crack opens, just like the soul of a bean, we can blast out of here like a Big...Giant...FART!!!

2013
05-06-2008, 05:04 PM
http://www.amazon.com/Hiram-Key-Pharaohs-Freemasonry-Discovery/dp/1931412758
http://www.amazon.com/Second-Messiah-Templars-Shroud-Freemasonry/dp/1931412766/ref=pd_sim_b_title_7
The Hiram key and more importantly the second messiah books have information concerning the tarot .When i read the first one i was struck by the symbolism of the tarot that came up in the story , having used them for a number of years . The second book just confirmed this ,as it goes into more detail linking the tarot as a hidden book revealing the secrets of the craft, if i recall correctly .Worth a read for some information into the masonic mindset:D

popeye11
05-06-2008, 05:20 PM
Yes 2013, great books! Symbolism is everywhere even during meditation. I don't think the illuminati or the likes created symbols. They just hid knowledge so that they could use the symbols as a means of control. Religion has always been the greatest means of control and so why would they not continue to create new religions. Same old, same old. ;)

2013
05-06-2008, 06:01 PM
Yes 2013, great books! Symbolism is everywhere even during meditation. I don't think the illuminati or the likes created symbols. They just hid knowledge so that they could use the symbols as a means of control. Religion has always been the greatest means of control and so why would they not continue to create new religions. Same old, same old. ;)

True thatis why we shouldnt give them more power than they try to make out they have .
Ignore the man behind the curtain .
The so called ptb just ahve the script to read fro mso they are aheadof the game as far as understanding it is concerned .:D

655321
28-07-2008, 12:16 AM
The Rising World Religion. Neo-paganism, Neo-satanism or .... The establishment of a New World Order, free of guilt, self-loathing and shame, ...

http://www.timboucher.com/images/virgin_whore.jpg

... Madonna, who has been a Kabbalah devotee for over 10 years, ... to be part of the world as it exists because of her esoteric religion... and ...

Madonna's 2004 "Reinvention Tour" ... Hollywood (Tarot Card Video/ Skateboarding Interlude)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MkrN6ZvgYk

Madonna, the high priestess of Kaballah