Death camps & martial Law

[sticky ichabod crane]

Who here is on the red or blue list. I think our esteemed leaders could be on the red list. Discuss.

Much love & oneness.

http://www.uaff.us/deathcamps.htm

RED and BLUE Lists

Mr. Sea is a former inspector for the Joint Chiefs of Staff and the Department of Defense. Here Mr. Sea elaborates on the 'RED and BLUE Lists' and what they mean. The RED List is for pick-up and execution before unobtrusive preparations for martial law are initiated. The BLUE List is also for execution, but later, within 6 weeks of martial law declaration. When you get picked up on a RED pick-up, they'll take you from your home at night, probably around 4 am and put you in a black van, then drive you to a helicopter waiting to fly you to an intermediate point. There, you'll be loaded onto a big 64-passenger CH-47 Chinook helicopter and fly you to one of 38 cities where you'll board a 747, 737, or 727. You may be taken straight to a red camp and executed. At some point, martial law will be declared. Martial law is when the writ of Habeas Corpus to have a trial by jury is suspended. Instead, of going to the judge, you go straight to jail. At this point, the BLUE listed people will be picked up. At that time, the country will be regionalized into ten regions, which are already designated by FEMA. The black choppers have state-of-the-art radio (RF) frequency wideband jammers, and can jam cell phones and CBs while they're executing black operations missions. This means that your cell phone could be jammed just before and/or during any action against you. In June of 1996, an FBI agent got hold of the Region Three BLUE List (from a CIA agent), and found his own name on it, and those of several others he knew in Virginia. The Regional BLUE List stated that the names on the BLUE List would be picked up 'within six weeks of the actual martial law declaration.' It will work if the 300,000 Soviet troops which are ALREADY HERE can get the guns. The ones doing all of this are operating out of the highest places in the Federal Government. They're cooperating with spirit guides and mediums and using astrology and numerology. The spirit guides are telling them what to do, and the entire thing is being orchestrated at the highest spiritual levels. Every base has been covered. They've thought of everything. They often do things on the 13th of the month. Mr. Clinton does a lot of things on the 13th. On September 13, 1993, the Satanic Oslo Israel-PLO 'peace' accord was signed. Amos 3:7 says that God doesn't do anything without first revealing His secrets to His servants the prophets. God is giving His people warnings. If we'll listen to God, He is warning us of the times that are coming. We need to prepare. There will be an interim of probably just days from the time they launch the RED List, to the declaration of martial law, when they'll start coming after those on the BLUE List. It's the same blueprint being used because it's the same spirit leading the Fourth Reich as led the Third Reich. In Germany, they used trains, here it will be helicopters and 747s. They are now in the process of villainizing Christians, Patriots, Constitutionalists, and outspoken talk-show hosts, HERE IN AMERIKKKA! Who will be doing the actual picking up? Foreign UN cops, probably Muslims or communists. Over 30 foreign military bases under the United Nations flag are already set up in the USA . These bases are already manned with over ONE MILLION troops from Russia, Poland, Germany, Belgium, Turkey, Great Britain, Nicaragua, and Asian countries. They will have no qualms about firing on U.S. citizens. There are Russian tanks, military trucks and chemical warfare vehicles outside Gulfport, Mississippi. Hello? That was hit by Katrina in 2005. Anyone see heavy military equipment and foreign troops near San Francisco? The Illuminati plan way ahead! There's not going to be some future event when the invading troops are going to show up. They're already here. When martial law is implemented, these foreign U.N. troops will be policing our country, carrying out the plans of the New World Order. God is warning His people. There isn't much time before these events begin to take place. God's people need to prepare themselves in every way possible. It's not a time for fear. It's a time for prayer, preparation and sharing our faith with a lost world.

Picture: Nashville, Tennessee

[sticky ichabod crane]

http://www.australia.to/story/0,25197,2 ... 00,00.html

What was discussed at a closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives?


Tuesday March 25, 2008 7:37pm EST

BRISBANE, Australia - The House has held a closed session for the first time in 25 years and apparently discussed a hotly contested surveillance bill.

Republicans had requested privacy for what they termed "an honest debate" on the new Democratic eavesdropping measure.

Conspiracy theorists around the world have filled many pages of blogs and emails with theories as to why the public was prevented to hear what their elected representatives said and heard.

That is the nature of secrets: those "kept in the dark" want to know and in the absence of knowledge, seek answers.

Writers suggested that the special closed session of the U.S. House of Representatives discussed a lot more than the pending security surveillance provisions.

Last week's session was only the fourth time in 176 years that Congress has closed it's doors to the public.

Word has begun leaking from last weeks special, closed-door session of the United States House of Representatives.

Theorists wrote "Not only did members discuss new surveillance provisions as was the publicly stated reason for the closed door session, they also discussed: The imminent collapse of the U.S. economy to occur by September 2008, the imminent collapse of US federal government finances by February 2009, the possibility of Civil War inside the USA as a result of the collapse and advance round-ups of "insurgent U.S. citizens" likely to move against the government.

Also theorised was the detention of those rounded-up at "REX 84" camps constructed throughout the USA and the possibility of retaliation against members of Congress for the collapses and the location of "safe facilities" for members of Congress and their families to reside during expected massive civil unrest

Other answers included "the necessary and unavoidable merger of the United States with Canada" (for its natural resources) and with Mexico (for its cheap labor pool), the issuance of a new currency - THE AMERO - for all three nations as the proposed solution to the coming economic armageddon.

Members of Congress were FORBIDDEN to reveal what was discussed and ABC News via WCPO web site at the link below CONFIRMS congress members were FORBIDDEN to talk about it!

Several are so furious and concerned about the future of the country, they have begun leaking info. More details coming later today and over the weekend.
http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.as ... 27f8407536

[sticky ichabod crane]

:)

[seanie]

Jaysus, i wouldn't fancy living in america right now, but i cant see the american people sitting around doing nothing if this happens, good luck to them. they'll need it.:(

[cruise4]

Can you repost the bottom link in the second article? It's not tagged or copied and pasted properly or something. Cheers.

[cruise4]

If this happens in America what do you think will be happening elsewhere? It's beyond belief really. I keep coming across the limitations of words lately, and here's another case.:mad: I read a post earlier about how they are issuing semi-automatics to some police. Love doesn't really look like any solution at this point.

[dolphinswink]

Crap :mad:

God help us all if this comes to pass ...

[seanie]

If this happens in America what do you think will be happening elsewhere? It's beyond belief really. I keep coming across the limitations of words lately, and here's another case. I read a post earlier about how they are issuing semi-automatics to some police. Love doesn't really look like any solution at this point.

Yeah I know, but they have limited numbers all it will take is for the masses to wake up and there fucked. come on like if there rounding up thousands a few sheer numbers should be able to overwhelm them, ok a few would get killed but it would be worth it.

[esse]

This is v scary shit - if they showed up at my door at 4 am this morn, what could/would I do - certainly am not already prepared for such an occasion - perhaps we need to be?

If we were prepared - at least it wouldn't be so easy for them.. It's just a matter of expecting it - but so hard to believe this could happen even tho - well, I could see it...

The trick for them is to get us before we're prepared....

[icke_is_right]

So do you think Ron Paul supporters will get a certain coloured sticker? I think that is what his campaign is all about, just weeding out any trouble makers.

If not, will they sort people by internet surfing data or something else?

[rixxmixxhell]

So do you think Ron Paul supporters will get a certain coloured sticker? I think that is what his campaign is all about, just weeding out any trouble makers.

If not, will they sort people by internet surfing data or something else?

My thoughts exactly....people who have blogs like me too!!!!

I was gonna post a thread on survival that lists items we should keep in camping bags, bumb bags, etc, a whole rang of things to escape to the hills with, no dougbt, they WONT get everyone, if it happens in america, what makes us assume it wont happen at exactly the same time in the U.K??

If it happened in the U.S, we here in the U.K would have a small amount of time to group, formulate a plan, and find a safe place to defend our selves....

Care to discuss this??

[kweli]

Can you repost the bottom link in the second article? It's not tagged or copied and pasted properly or something. Cheers.

There you go. :)

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=1fde2498-d8c8-44f3-9c94-4a27f8407536

Just been reading all this stuff on another site. Scary stuff indeed! Ignore at you're own peril, I'd say

[cruise4]

Cheers Kweli. :) Start sticking Red and Blue circles on everyone's houses, especially those we know are likely NWO stooges, like community cops. If it goes this far, we'll have no choice will we. I certainly won't go quietly and neither will many others. But watch your kids, they are vulnerable and a route to you perhaps. If you need cheering up listen to the David Wilcock interview on Red Ice. He thinks that there won't be anything like enough people to hold the guns... and he could be right. Its terrible the things you have to contemplate in a situation like this. I just hope sense prevails at some level.

[skyline]

If this does happen and America is first the Internet will go down as the elite wont want images and true accounts broadcast

[cruise4]

Ideally if one country starts, we should all start. Otherwise they pick us off bit by bit. But I doubt that will happen. To many asleep people who will stay asleep without obvious goings on. It seems unlikely to me that many will go along with this at all. It could be their final undoing if they try it. The pictures will get out.

[skyline]

Ideally if one country starts, we should all start. Otherwise they pick us off bit by bit. But I doubt that will happen. To many asleep people who will stay asleep without obvious goings on. It seems unlikely to me that many will go along with this at all. It could be there final undoing if they try it.

Is there any law stating that if marshal law is implemented the government will take control of all media? If so would that include the net

[americana]

This is v scary shit - if they showed up at my door at 4 am this morn, what could/would I do - certainly am not already prepared for such an occasion - perhaps we need to be?

If we were prepared - at least it wouldn't be so easy for them.. It's just a matter of expecting it - but so hard to believe this could happen even tho - well, I could see it...

The trick for them is to get us before we're prepared....

Esse has an excellent point. When I was a little girl, I had a humorous etiquette book illustrated by Maurice Sendak. It was called What Do You Do, My Dear? But this is no joke, and not a point of etiquette!

Well, what do you do when they show up at your door at 4 in the morning? It's just not possible for everyone to "run for the hills" in time. (Oh, and hey, guys, what about Hilary's infamous campaign ad regarding the call at 3 a.m. . . . for us, there won't BE a call, just a knock, and . . . But her ad is very suggestive, very suggestive.)

So . . . . do you fight to the death? Do you go along, planning to escape? Planning to be rescued? Do you start now and research your local camps for weaknesses in structure. layout, etc.?

This may sound crazy, or defeatist, but what would you wear? (Serious, not a fashion question!) Would you have a plan to instantly, surreptitiously contact a bunch of friends and relatives to let them know? If you sense that "something is going down", do you let cyber-friends know that if they haven't heard from you or seen you online . .. then . . . .

Any practical ideas are most welcome.

There are many internet sites that simply re-post a rather long list of FEMA camps. I am NOT by any means doubting that these exist. I would just love to have more actual images, layouts, etc. Not just same-old, same-old from 6 years ago, etc.

As you note, I DO live in the U.S. I find it interesting that there is no equivalent to the FEMA camps in the UK (?).

[godspeed]

all the people........so many people.......i hope they rise up and bring it down

[esse]

Hey Americana - I was on the prisonplanet forum a few weeks ago - and there is a lot of up to date info etc on the FEMA camps there --- A few threads about survival too -- guys on there are taking all this rather seriously, it scares the crap out of me to think this may happen (and a lot sooner than we think - I guess the suprize element really would be needed for it to work!!:eek:) I'd hate to think what color I'd be --- maybe I should do something to prepare... Jesus, not exactly what I want to be doing with myself... If it does come to this, from the sounds of it, going along in the hopes that you would be ok seems pretty pointless. Better to go out like ol' William Cooper perhaps...

[edelweiss pirate]

Are we done scaring ourselves silly yet?

I think this is a load of Hooey!

[cycles of time]

So do you think Ron Paul supporters will get a certain coloured sticker? I think that is what his campaign is all about, just weeding out any trouble makers.



DUH

everything this man speaks of wanting to do is either empty promises/ part of the NWO (privatization of health care/education/miltary)..think blackwater...

have u ever been to a ron paul rally?

more anarchists/metrosexuals/racists/hillbillies/hermits then you can shake a stick at

alot of people blindly support ron paul because he wants to cut back on taxes (pure greed)

it really is a sideshow. im not saying any of the other candidates arent clowns,but ron paul is the ultimate jester

[halftheworldaway]

Everything I've seen of Ron Paul suggests he speaks the truth and is against the world's elite.

Some of the speculation about what else might have been discussed at the closed House session in March fits in with these protocols - http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18581&highlight=6900 - that concern declaring the dollar worthless during 2008.

[dangermouse]

DUH

everything this man speaks of wanting to do is either empty promises/ part of the NWO (privatization of health care/education/miltary)..think blackwater...

have u ever been to a ron paul rally?

more anarchists/metrosexuals/racists/hillbillies/hermits then you can shake a stick at

alot of people blindly support ron paul because he wants to cut back on taxes (pure greed)

it really is a sideshow. im not saying any of the other candidates arent clowns,but ron paul is the ultimate jester

how would you know .. you hate ron paul :p .. I doubt you would cross the street to see a ron paul rally

[icke_is_right]

DUH

everything this man speaks of wanting to do is either empty promises/ part of the NWO (privatization of health care/education/miltary)..think blackwater...

have u ever been to a ron paul rally?

more anarchists/metrosexuals/racists/hillbillies/hermits then you can shake a stick at

alot of people blindly support ron paul because he wants to cut back on taxes (pure greed)

it really is a sideshow. im not saying any of the other candidates arent clowns,but ron paul is the ultimate jester

Seems to think that I think that Ron Paul has something to offer? Again, just in case you misunderstood, I was suggesting that the purpose of his campaign was to weed people out. My idea was that a vote for Ron Paul could mean an express ticket to one of these camps.

How can Ron Paul's campaign be real when he leaves out so much of the truth which he would be well aware of?

[cycles of time]

how would you know .. you hate ron paul :p .. I doubt you would cross the street to see a ron paul rally

ive been to plenty of rallies all over the east coast .

ive marched on washington,ive marched in nyc, and ive pissed on the american/mexican border.

my father protested at vieques,puerto rico. look it up. the government used it as a prime example in the patriot act

[grannymoose]

guys this has turned into a fear thread. Remember you are not free while laced in fear.

[elysiumfire]

They're cooperating with spirit guides and mediums and using astrology and numerology. The spirit guides are telling them what to do, and the entire thing is being orchestrated at the highest spiritual levels.

What!:eek: You have got to be kidding! Tell me you are not taking this crap seriously?

Totally preposterous, ludicrous, ridiculous! Phew! Some people really like to spread the bovine fertilizer around. Talk about instilling fear, you're all beginning to jump at your own shadows. What a load 'o' bollocks!

No wonder the US is in such a state. In forums all over the internet you read American statements extolling the wonderfulness of the freedoms and liberties of their country, yet are too timid to do what is right to stop the fascist creep which is dismantling those very attributes that are a part of what made the US.

The labour government of the UK are now running scared of the populace, for they know, come the next election, those bastards are out on their ears. They've just been well-hammered in two recent by-elections...the writings on the wall for them, and they read it only too well.

Stop being so bloody scared!

[americana]

As I noted, I would like to know more about these FEMA camps. I have visited the Prisonplanet site, thanks so much, Esse. :) I'd like to do some personal research as well!

In any case, I don't think it HURTS to be forewarned. For example, to get a bit off topic, I've read about just one campsite where Katrina refugees went. This was a group of camp buildings owned by churches and taken over by FEMA. The refugees were not allowed to leave the camp to go to church, however. If they left, they could not come back. No clergy could come and give religious services, either, at a time when many could have used the comfort of their religion.

The refugees, or detainees, were not allowed to cook for themselves, but had to have the food cooked by FEMA, 2 meals a day. The people in charge seemed to be planning for food riots, and they sounded very controlling. I'm not even sure that the detainees could receive "visitors" or assistance from outside people wanting to help and donate food or clothes and other necessities.

Now, I realize that this is not the same case as a prison death camp, but how would you deal with it if there were a major disaster, flu epidemic, etc., and you were told that you had to leave your home and come with soldiers in black with AK-47s? And go to such a place . . . perhaps be quarantined, separated from your family and friends. You've read about such things, you can imagine what it might be like.

Are you prepared?

I can understand fighting to the death, but I do feel responsibility for my parents, who are not young, and my dearest friend, who is surely my rock, but who will need me. I have hope, and I will live.

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AND, not to be a kill joy, what makes ppl in the UK think that there are no camps over there? Are there not camps where illegals are detained?

I'm sure not everyone at Guantanamo Bay, not everyone on those prison ships (used by UK and USA), everyone extradited to foreign countries and tortured, etc., knew what was coming.

Maybe this doesn't happen in the UK, but here in the US, "illegal immigrants" are rounded up in the middle of the night in raids. Churches, normally considered a sanctuary, are NOT sacred . . . .there is nowhere to hide, nowhere to go for these people with very little resources, living in poverty, trying to provide for their families.

Who is next? What is next?

Remember Brazil, with the Tuttle and Buttle mix-up? It's funny, but it's not.

And I'm actually a very light-hearted person. BUT.

[true]

Are we done scaring ourselves silly yet?

I think this is a load of Hooey!

I agree, it's very easy to paint a scary picture like that...

Some say they want to reduce the population to 500 million, but I have a hard time buying that. If it is true, why did we have 9/11? If you're just going to kill everyone, can't you just do that and be done with it? Why drag it out and have all these wars and stuff, when you could just do your end goal straightaway and skip all this BS?

Think about all the money and logistics involved with doing this, there's no way they could pull it off without some serious backlash. FEMA itself probably has thousands of employees, and I doubt 100% of them are in on this plan or able to push the agenda without being aware of it. I would think that most of them are decent citizens like the rest of us, and the order for "100,000 prisoner cars" or "500,000 plastic coffins" would have passed through hundreds of people. Surely at least one of them would have freaked out...

Plastic coffins? Are you serious? Since when do genocidal maniacs spend the time and money to put each corpse to peaceful rest in the earth? I don't buy any of this, but I sure hope I'm not asleep on this one.

[graflok]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/860/coffinsjj8.jpg

Yeah, these are just for the annual Congressional Tupperware Party.

Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along. Nothing to see ...

Picture taken from:
http://www.uaff.us/deathcamps.htm

[eternal_spirit]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/860/coffinsjj8.jpg

Yeah, these are just for the annual Congressional Tupperware Party.

Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along. Nothing to see ...

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:D:eek:

What are those things for?

History has a way of repeating itself. For those not aware of the past you need to read up about the Gulags. The NWO system will be a combination of capitalism ( facism ) and communism.

[americana]

[QUOTE=eternal_spirit;375074]........................

:D:eek:

What are those things for?
QUOTE]

They are burial vaults! :eek: http://www.polyguardvaults.com/

[cruise4]

"The labour government of the UK are now running scared of the populace, for they know, come the next election, those bastards are out on their ears. They've just been well-hammered in two recent by-elections...the writings on the wall for them, and they read it only too well."

I don't understand, unless you think Conservatives represent something Labour doesn't. They will continue the agenda and bring it to fruition. Surely no-one here actually has faith in any aspect of present government any more? This is amongst the most basic truth's of what's occurring.

Most Tories are incompetent twats, most Labour are incompetent twats, all working within councils are incompetent twats and the whole lot is being presented to fool the people into thinking they have some sort of say. The few that aren't are a part of the inner cabal.

Judges, Lawyers, Politicians, Royalty, Councils, Bankers and all Big Business, land Owners.... I could go on and on.... the whole friggin lot has to be thrown out. If people are looking for a change of party to solve the problems you are in for a rude awakening.

At times I want the NWO to succeed in their initial phase because I'm so afraid people aren't going to get it otherwise. Some people want to rail against slavery but woe betide actually taking the collars off or losing the chain. Are we wasting our time?

[adramelech]

I agree, it's very easy to paint a scary picture like that...

Some say they want to reduce the population to 500 million, but I have a hard time buying that. If it is true, why did we have 9/11? If you're just going to kill everyone, can't you just do that and be done with it? Why drag it out and have all these wars and stuff, when you could just do your end goal straightaway and skip all this BS?


I think you are massively overstating the power and influence of these people. They are a minority - an enormous minority. They hold wealth, power and influence over the faculties of our modern civilization, but these faculties do not entirely stem from them. They are manipulators and parasites on a system.

Picture this. One murderous psychopath amongst one hundred people. The psychopath wants them all dead, and he has every possible advantage. Pre-meditation, weapons, protection and the element of surprise. However, it would be virtually impossible for one man, no matter how ruthless and how powerful, to overcome such numbers. However, should the psychopath manipulate, deftly orchestrate the crowd, he could easily achieve his goal in time, by playing their game with his rules.

Blend in, disguise, manipulate. This is how you take control of billions with a room full of idealistic psychopaths. It's not as simple as dropping bombs and being done with it.

Concentration and death camps in the US have been a rather high profile issue for years.

[cruise4]

But this small minority killed millions in the wars, they've killed millions via the medical proffession, they've killed millions via starvation and disease in the third world, possibly now causing natural disasters that killl thousands and I predict will also rise to millions. They construct national identities and political idealogies that kill millions, etc. etc.

Doing pretty well from their perspective and their capablities to kill are growing exponentially whilst our ability to resist fall.

Overstating? Understating more like!

9/11 etc. is just a symptom of incrementalism. They need to get a grip on global power to really start in earnest. 9/11 was a massive step towards that. They can't do it all now. Everyone realising what's going on, en masse would take them down overnight. So they inch towards their goal. Once they believe sufficient control is in place they WILL unleash the full arsenal. This Red/Blue list could be implemented. I'm not saying it will be, or that the article isn't scare mongering. But in my opinion it could be done. From their perspective, they HAVE to do it because whilst there's this number of people the possibility exists for revolt and opposition. That potential has to be removed. And body disposal etc. is no argument. For all we know they can vaporise bodies into nothing. The camps appear to be real. And as for camps in the UK... we are an island. Where do dangerous experiments take place? On islands.

[adramelech]

But this small minority killed millions in the wars, they've killed millions via the medical proffession, they've killed millions via starvation and disease in the third world, possibly now causing natural disasters that killl thousands and I predict will also rise to millions. They construct national identities and political idealogies that kill millions, etc. etc.

Doing pretty well from their perspective and their capablities to kill are growing exponentially whilst our ability to resist fall.

Overstating? Understating more like!

9/11 etc. is just a symptom of incrementalism. They need to get a grip on global power to really start in earnest. 9/11 was a massive step towards that. They can't do it all now. Everyone realising what's going on, en masse would take them down overnight. So they inch towards their goal. Once they believe sufficient control is in place they WILL unleash the full arsenal. This Red/Blue list could be implemented. I'm not saying it will be, or that the article isn't scare mongering. But in my opinion it could be done. From their perspective, they HAVE to do it because whilst there's this number of people the possibility exists for revolt and opposition. That potential has to be removed. And body disposal etc. is no argument. For all we know they can vaporise bodies into nothing. The camps appear to be real. And as for camps in the UK... we are an island. Where do dangerous experiments take place? On islands.

cruise, I agree with you completely. I meant that as a reply to true, specifically when he/she said "If it is true, why did we have 9/11? If you're just going to kill everyone, can't you just do that and be done with it?" as if these people have the power to instantly wipe out the entire world with a blink. It's a slow process of manipulation and deception.

[cruise4]

Ahhh Ok, My post was mostly directed at her post too.

[friendsinthesky]

What aload of bollocks!

..how many heilocpters will they need?

..how many soldiers will they need?

..as if you guys have thought about it, before shitting your pants and deliberately spread fearing garabage.

Don't buy the hype folks, it's bollocks!

[cruise4]

..how many helicopters will they need?

To pick up a few people in a town? Not many

..how many soldiers will they need?

Not that many

..as if you guys have thought about it, before shitting your pants and deliberately spread fearing garabage.

I have thought about it. Not fearing it, just angry about it. Ignoring information, if you actually want to know what they might be up to, isn't very sensible. Its called analysis. If everyone avoided posting anything with the potential of causing fear then no-one would know about any of this stuff and no-one would be awake at all. There's fear driving things happening and not seeing them won't help anyone.

You are making the mistake of thinking communications won't be suppressed. You are thinking they are going to be hitting a whole country at once and you are also thinking they cannot coerce people to go to camps voluntarily. Look what happened to New Orleans. It wasn't that hard was it? Umpteen million in WW2 shipped to camps? You're right, its impossible. They didn't have helicopters [sic]. Stalin 48 million? Yeah the people really stood up and were counted. They were well short of soldiers weren't they?

Yes this could be a total garbage article. But please lets not play the fool and pretend it isn't possible, because it is. There are a whole range of ways things like this could be organised and most people wouldn't even know about it. If anyone hasn't thought about, its you. They would do it the same way as they do everything else... incrementally. Read up on what Germans thought when they came for them. And who did what to whom. Most people will believe exactly what they are told and a good many of them will be only to happy to point you out to the 'authorities. And that's without mentioning some of the truly fantastic weapons that would be arrayed, quite capable of taking out whole cities in one go. Last bit my opinion based on certain hints that are about.

[astral_girl]

..how many helicopters will they need?

To pick up a few people in a town? Not many

..how many soldiers will they need?

Not that many

..as if you guys have thought about it, before shitting your pants and deliberately spread fearing garabage.

I have thought about it. Not fearing it, just angry about it. Ignoring information, if you actually want to know what they might be up to, isn't very sensible. Its called analysis. If everyone avoided posting anything with the potential of causing fear then no-one would know about any of this stuff and no-one would be awake at all. There's fear driving things happening and not seeing them won't help anyone.

You are making the mistake of thinking communications won't be suppressed. You are thinking they are going to be hitting a whole country at once and you are also thinking they cannot coerce people to go to camps voluntarily. Look what happened to New Orleans. It wasn't that hard was it? Umpteen million in WW2 shipped to camps? You're right, its impossible. They didn't have helicopters [sic]. Stalin 48 million? Yeah the people really stood up and were counted. They were well short of soldiers weren't they?

Yes this could be a total garbage article. But please lets not play the fool and pretend it isn't possible, because it is. There are a whole range of ways things like this could be organised and most people wouldn't even know about it. If anyone hasn't thought about, its you. They would do it the same way as they do everything else... incrementally. Read up on what Germans thought when they came for them. And who did what to whom. Most people will believe exactly what they are told and a good many of them will be only to happy to point you out to the 'authorities. And that's without mentioning some of the truly fantastic weapons that would be arrayed, quite capable of taking out whole cities in one go. Last bit my opinion based on certain hints that are about.

well said cruise4 -nail on head there...........
anyone denying this -just type fema into you tube -sit down and have a good long hard think!!!!! its not rocket science-though informing the uninformed seems to be !!!!

[friendsinthesky]

^Logical thinking can get you through the night, stop watching rubbish TV.

[astral_girl]

^Logical thinking can get you through the night, stop watching rubbish TV.

i do not watch rubbish tv -thank you.

[skyline]

Population control and the theory behind it all boil down to one main reason.The elite who are no doubt RH neg blood types believe that RH poss people are useless eaters 10-15 % of the planet are rh neg

do the maths its no coincidence

The camps are real and the agenda is real and where is the fear in knowing that

[jvx19]

it's real, just because it is so bizarre does not discredit it, it will happen

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhxsM6NDZGc&feature=related

[truthseeker1980]

9/11 etc. is just a symptom of incrementalism. They need to get a grip on global power to really start in earnest. 9/11 was a massive step towards that. They can't do it all now. Everyone realising what's going on, en masse would take them down overnight. So they inch towards their goal. Once they believe sufficient control is in place they WILL unleash the full arsenal. This Red/Blue list could be implemented. I'm not saying it will be, or that the article isn't scare mongering. But in my opinion it could be done. From their perspective, they HAVE to do it because whilst there's this number of people the possibility exists for revolt and opposition. That potential has to be removed. And body disposal etc. is no argument. For all we know they can vaporise bodies into nothing. The camps appear to be real. And as for camps in the UK... we are an island. Where do dangerous experiments take place? On islands.

Exactly and for the UK there's some other info you may want to be aware of, I was a recruitment consutlant a few years ago 2004-2006, i used to employ coachbuilders, mechanical fitters and liceneced aircraft mechanics to my clients. One particualr client which has massive military contracts based in cambridge, won a contract after 7/7 to build emergency repsonse trucks for in the event of a terrorist attack, they were supposed to build one for every single firestation in the UK. The trucks had quite alot of interesting things on them such as bomb monitoring machines, huge cranes, pnumatic pumps specialist space type suits, etc.. but the most intersting feature was the fact that each truck had a communications black out system fitted, the idea was if there was a massive attack then the truck, would together with the other forces take control of all the mobile networks, effectively knocking out the whole mobile communications network for the people. Nothing that strange there I hear people thinking.

This is the very worrying part which i've mentioned before but really holds weight now, suddenly after only building about 20 odd fire trucks the contract was pulled by Gordon Brown actually, (this is what i was told then) and they then had a contract from the government to build prison vans, hundreds and hundreds of them. The thing is i've not seen one of these vans on the roads, they seem to have been built and not used. The question is why, again i am not scaremongering I am passing on information, which i feel people should know.

[redhead]

This is the very worrying part which i've mentioned before but really holds weight now, suddenly after only building about 20 odd fire trucks the contract was pulled by Gordon Brown actually, (this is what i was told then) and they then had a contract from the government to build prison vans, hundreds and hundreds of them. The thing is i've not seen one of these vans on the roads, they seem to have been built and not used. The question is why, again i am not scaremongering I am passing on information, which i feel people should know.

Put this info together with the Prison Ships and Titan Jails announced by Jack Straw and you have your UK equivelent of the FEMA detention camps......this is a serious heads up people....BE PREPARED

[cruise4]

Thanks, and you are right. This is exactly the sort of information that should come out. Knowledge is Power and it's another piece in the jigsaw.

[niftygifter]

How the hell can Britain declare martial law on 60million people.

Physically impossible with the troops out in god knows where and the police totally inefficient in normal day to day duties. The majority would totally ignore it and so would I.

Get real people, please.


Nifty:cool:

[cruise4]

Nobody has mentioned Martial Law in Britain have they? No, can't see that happening in the near future at all. National emergency or pandemic scares... yes. There are signs that preparations are being made with the security forces. Remember that article about certain Police Officers approaching Traffic Wardens and Perimetered towns with shoot to kill or CS bombs and what about Community Police growth? And if entry to the EU goes ahead then British Soldiers aren't necessarily needed. And now Taser equipping, the growth of armed officers around London, CCTV in the control centres. I believe there are DUMBS here. French police with shoot to kill clearance. I'm seeing an increase in military flights here. Maybe an attack is expected? Who knows but I reckon they ARE expecting trouble. What trouble exactly I don't know either... how about war with Russia? Food becoming REALLY scarce? Bird Flu? The Police State is rising. Its unquestionable. Could be major earth changes? Could be false Alien invasion. Could be real Alien invasion. Could be all electrical items cease to function. Could be total financial collapse. Could be Oil cutoff. Open your eyes. Something is expected to happen. If a pandemic, or even a pretend pandemic is announced with full fanfare people will go mental. You won't believe the panic. I can think of a way they could take out most of the country in a day or so, and not even be blamed. I cannot believe some of you think all this is impossible to do. And it could be just for us!

[truthseeker1980]

Didn't one of Ickes newletters recently talk about their plans for all civil servants, like traffic wardens etc.. to be given new powers as they are expecting massive protests and riots?

Obviously the police, army and civil servants are real people so it maybe hard to get them to do as they say. Perhaps these people will be the first victims of the camps, which would then put pressure on the rest of the remaining forces to do as they say or face the camps.

So it could work through fear, remember they control us through fear anyway.

[skyline]

The UK is one big fema camp,an island with the highest concentration of cctv camera's in the world,any camp will be for the trouble makers who dont tow the line

[redhead]

The UK is one big fema camp,an island with the highest concentration of cctv camera's in the world,any camp will be for the trouble makers who dont tow the line


Or they could be for all the MP's, Councillers and there familys etc for there protection, because when the penny drops and everyone realises that they've been had they are the first people who the mob will go after.

So maybe the island is for us to fend for ourselves Mad Max style.

[cruise4]

They are exhibiting all the fear. There's every chance they don't know what's coming either and are running around like headless chickens trying to plan for every last possibility.

"So maybe the island is for us to fend for ourselves Mad Max style."

Be cool to have one giant ascension party. I could get into that.

[skyline]

Or they could be for all the MP's, Councillers and there familys etc for there protection, because when the penny drops and everyone realises that they've been had they are the first people who the mob will go after.

So maybe the island is for us to fend for ourselves Mad Max style.

mines a tvr tuscan s dont mind the colour!

you know I have always thought the new GCHQ buidling has a massive underground base

[cruise4]

Hey Skyline are you in Cheltenham? What's happened to the old site? Am I right in thinking the new site is basically next door?

[skyline]

Hey Skyline are you in Cheltenham? What's happened to the old site? Am I right in thinking the new site is basically next door?

now I am in Kent but I stumbled on some pictures and they were talking about the amount of concrete used to make the thing

[graflok]

In 1972 martial law was declared and carried out in the Philippines by then
President Ferdinand Marcos. Much information is available in the net about how
this was done and what it was like.

As far as I can tell the current population of the Philippines is over 75 million. I
don't know what it was in 1972.

But, I do know that the technology available to the military for controlling the
population has advanced considerably since 1972.

[niftygifter]

The UK is one big fema camp,an island with the highest concentration of cctv camera's in the world,any camp will be for the trouble makers who dont tow the line

And you can fuck up every single CCTV with a simple LED light on a hat. It cant cope with the infra red signature of the LED,bingo.;)
60 million people all over UK, if a quarter of them kicked off, it would be impossible for Martial law to be imposed, they aint got the troops, the weapons or the police.

Hold fast you lot, you are all winding everything up.:rolleyes:

Perspective is required, what is actually happening at the moment ....nothing and it isnt going to.

Nifty:cool:

[cruise4]

:D

[jvx19]

Perspective is required, what is actually happening at the moment ....nothing it isnt going to.

Nifty:cool:

This post began about where martial law is imminent, here in the US. Besides, they don't need martial law in the UK. Big Brother already has you herded together and surrounded on a small island. I've been to Aberdeen and was amazed at the control. Cameras everywhere.

[kweli]

The UK is one big fema camp,an island with the highest concentration of cctv camera's in the world,any camp will be for the trouble makers who dont tow the line

Agreed skyline.

We already have stuff like this in the pipeline too:

'Three "super-prisons" each housing about 2,500 offenders are to be built, Justice Secretary Jack Straw has said...

One of the so-called Titan jails, which will be larger than any prison currently used in Britain, will be in service by 2012.

The other two are expected to be built by 2014.

He suggested they should be built in London, the West Midlands and the north-west of England.

Full report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7128181.stm

[skyline]

Agreed skyline.

We already have stuff like this in the pipeline too:

'Three "super-prisons" each housing about 2,500 offenders are to be built, Justice Secretary Jack Straw has said...

One of the so-called Titan jails, which will be larger than any prison currently used in Britain, will be in service by 2012.

The other two are expected to be built by 2014.

He suggested they should be built in London, the West Midlands and the north-west of England.

Full report: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7128181.stm

whats wrong with building one in the east? listen to me paranoia pass me the tin foil

[esse]

And you can fuck up every single CCTV with a simple LED light on a hat. It cant cope with the infra red signature of the LED,bingo.;)
60 million people all over UK, if a quarter of them kicked off, it would be impossible for Martial law to be imposed, they aint got the troops, the weapons or the police.

Hold fast you lot, you are all winding everything up.:rolleyes:

Perspective is required, what is actually happening at the moment ....nothing and it isnt going to.

Nifty:cool:

Love it :)

[graflok]

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/2711/34583894sr8.jpg

[lizzy]

http://www.policestateplanning.com/id19.htm

[baeinu]

Here is some documentation for the "Civilian Inmate Labor Program" in the United States if you are interested in that sort of thing:

http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf

They may not exactly be "death camps," but reading it makes you wonder what they might really be.. Specifically, the people "permitted" to partake within the "program" seems odd to say the least.

[niftygifter]

This post began about where martial law is imminent, here in the US. Besides, they don't need martial law in the UK. Big Brother already has you herded together and surrounded on a small island. I've been to Aberdeen and was amazed at the control. Cameras everywhere.

It aint gonna happen out there either.
Dont you think that there are good guys fighting this?
There really is a load of fighting going on inside your governments as they sort out the Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Clinton idiots. Otherwise Martial Law would have been declared years ago.
Its about to go pop and those war criminals are about to be pulled from society.

Your perception of Control in the UK is wrong. There is none.
They might have cameras on every street corner, but there are dozy prats operating them who like the rest of the sheep here dont give a fuck what is going on out there. The police dont even get to fights until they have finished. They dont want to get involved.These cameras can be fucked up by wearing a simple LED on a hat, you cant see the face!!
They have the Police who cannot cope with day to day Law & Order and they themselves have said that the cameras are useless in the fight against crime because the rates have not been affected by them. It takes something like £5K per year to run a camera and this cost is with the local Councils, so now they are considering taking them out, because there is not much point. they are screaming for people to join the forces because they are under strength.

Not a hope in hell here of control;)

Stay positive:)

Nifty:cool:

[jvx19]

the more I think about it, it wouldn't work here. People may be asleep, but they know martial law is tyranny. There are admirals and generals who won't participate.

[graflok]

People wouldn't have tolerated the Iraq war either without 9/11 and all the other
"terrorist" propaganda to make them fear the Muslim world.

With the right circumstance, martial law is do-able. Scare the crap out of the
people and they'll welcome it. They'll even help by turning in their neighbors
who resist.

[kingmonkey]

People wouldn't have tolerated the Iraq war either without 9/11 and all the other
"terrorist" propaganda to make them fear the Muslim world.

With the right circumstance, martial law is do-able. Scare the crap out of the
people and they'll welcome it. They'll even help by turning in their neighbors
who resist.

I agree to a certain point, but I think people in general deserve a bit more credit...They're not gonna accept Marshall Law without a relly good reason, ie: The complete breakdown of society,say after a nuclear attack or somethin', and when they walk out their doors and see this aint happening they're not gonna give up their freedom on a few news reports. All it takes is a few people to say "I don't buy it" and the seeds of doubt will be sown. I don't think it'll get to the point of rounding everyone up, their plan will have turned to shit well before that.

[niftygifter]

I agree to a certain point, but I think people in general deserve a bit more credit...They're not gonna accept Marshall Law without a relly good reason, ie: The complete breakdown of society,say after a nuclear attack or somethin', and when they walk out their doors and see this aint happening they're not gonna give up their freedom on a few news reports. All it takes is a few people to say "I don't buy it" and the seeds of doubt will be sown. I don't think it'll get to the point of rounding everyone up, their plan will have turned to shit well before that.

Agree there, plus theyre all gun toting westerners:D:D

I wouldnt be going in after them:cool:

Grandma Clampitt used to scare the shit out of me:D:D:D:D

Nifty:cool:

[kingmonkey]

Grandma Clampitt Used To Scare The Shit Out Of Me:d:d:d:d

Nifty:cool:

Lol :D :D

[graflok]

You may be right, kingmonkey, and I hope you are. :)

[kingmonkey]

You may be right, kingmonkey, and I hope you are. :)

I hope I am as well :D I think as long as the masses develop a cynical and questioning attitude towards tptb, we have a chance of changing the outcome of their plan. I'm not sure the people at large will ever buy "the truth" until something big happens, but by then hopefully, they'll have seen or heard enough bullshit from politicians etc that they'll resist the big push.

[pduffy4]

http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/860/coffinsjj8.jpg

Yeah, these are just for the annual Congressional Tupperware Party.

Nothing to see here, folks. Just move along. Nothing to see ...

Picture taken from:
http://www.uaff.us/deathcamps.htm

They are big coffins:eek:. You could put at least three skinny people or two fat people like me in one of them. I suggest after looking at the website for these things that they are for disposing of people after a chemical and/or biological attack.

Here is the link to the site about the coffins someone else posted http://www.polyguardvaults.com/

Here is a quote from the site "Well, our vaults aren't actually plastic, but polypropylene that's as strong as concrete, less susceptible to water seepage, and tough as a tank!" (highlight is mine).

[pduffy4]

How the hell can Britain declare martial law on 60million people.

Physically impossible with the troops out in god knows where and the police totally inefficient in normal day to day duties. The majority would totally ignore it and so would I.

Get real people, please.


Nifty:cool:

You don't really think that the NWO would use British troops to kill and imprison British people do you? The NWO would use African and/or Chinese troops here in the UK while our troops are in Africa along with other European troops to kill Africans. Chinese troops will be in the USA and Russia. Russian troops will be in China and USA most likely etc...

The NWO order are many things but daft they are not.

[niftygifter]

You don't really think that the NWO would use British troops to kill and imprison British people do you? The NWO would use African and/or Chinese troops here in the UK while our troops are in Africa along with other European troops to kill Africans. Chinese troops will be in the USA and Russia. Russian troops will be in China and USA most likely etc...

The NWO order are many things but daft they are not.

Well pduffy It doesnt matter where they all come from, but how many do you think it would take to lock down the UK??

And how on earth are they going to transport them here without anyone realising, and how are they going to round everyone up from the villages, the hills, the cities etc etc before the people realise what the hell is going on and start kicking off about it.
You can get a load of football supporters kicking off after a match, who are uncontrollable. If they knew this was for real and possibly meant death or imprisonment, people would revolt, long before there was any control over this population or any other IMO.

I believe its a physical impossibility:rolleyes:

Nifty:cool:

[americana]

Oh, man. I took a bus trip to visit a friend this weekend. Just past the George Washington Bridge, I spotted a long, silver truck.

It had small windows that could slide open, horizontally. On the "open" side, there were bars.

So, I'M FREAKING OUT, thinking WOW, this is a human transport wagon, and a big 'un to boot.

Then, I look at the rear and see two horseshoes, a small silver silhouette of a running horse, and the word "Kentucky".

I guess it was just for transporting HORSES.

Phew!!!!

[niftygifter]

Oh, man. I took a bus trip to visit a friend this weekend. Just past the George Washington Bridge, I spotted a long, silver truck.

It had small windows that could slide open, horizontally. On the "open" side, there were bars.

So, I'M FREAKING OUT, thinking WOW, this is a human transport wagon, and a big 'un to boot.

Then, I look at the rear and see two horseshoes, a small silver silhouette of a running horse, and the word "Kentucky".

I guess it was just for transporting HORSES.

Phew!!!!

ROFL:D:D

Lose the fear;)


Nifty:cool:

[pduffy4]

Well pduffy It doesnt matter where they all come from, but how many do you think it would take to lock down the UK??

And how on earth are they going to transport them here without anyone realising, and how are they going to round everyone up from the villages, the hills, the cities etc etc before the people realise what the hell is going on and start kicking off about it.
You can get a load of football supporters kicking off after a match, who are uncontrollable. If they knew this was for real and possibly meant death or imprisonment, people would revolt, long before there was any control over this population or any other IMO.

I believe its a physical impossibility:rolleyes:

Nifty:cool:

The Illuminati have not built concentration camps not to use them. In the UK like elsewhere the Illuminati totally control the media so they will not report on the death camps or people being rounded up. The USA media is totally ignoring the Bilderberg meeting which is happening now in the USA.

I have contacted BBC, ITV, Channel 4 and 5 about 911 and the Global Warming scam and have never even had a reply. I have also phoned the Channel 5 program "The Wright Stuff" about Global Warming and told the woman on the phone that CO2 was not causing Global Warming and that people exhale CO2 and they were not interested at all. They are such cowards and fucking idiots; The only good thing is they will die like the rest of us.

Also the Illuminati would be content with the UK falling into civil war. The Illuminati are hell bent on destroying civilisation as we now it all over the world. They will NEVER give up their power over humanity, we have to take it from them, but how? We have no guns, no intelligence services to use, no access to mainstream media.

Be cool,

Peter:cool: