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[masonic3]

[Quote]Ok I Give up, I was asked here to take you from the truth I don't care any more,
My real name is S. H M I am 48 years old.

That all I will say


I am from UGLE/s I am not saying any more than just read :

Q.It's entirely based around the bible, a religious text, but then...
yep alot of secrets are hidden bible meaning look into “Bible Code”

Q.So it's main source of allegory is the bible, but it's not a religion although it "demands of it's members a belief in a Supreme Being.."
Supreme being in after 15th orders is a man called:

Robert Reid (This man runs freemasonry)the funny thing is, he is from the USA.
I don't think you will find anything on him try and look into "Paul Reid" who was his in the job before him, they take the second name when taking this Oath The “Reid” is a blood line and its (not he its it) is above any degrees could say 34th . Degree or “Cosmo-politism”
The 33 degree Scottish rite is just a ritual but is pushed to throw off the “Banned word”(we call you people the Banned word). There are 33dg

I know of five orders in England which use the name “Illuminati” you must understand I have not been in any of these temples you must be a second generation “Lewis” or have the right to the 15Th Degree
We call them the “illuminated ones”



Thankyou

S. H Mac…….[quote/]

[i am all i am]

"FOREWARD
By Reynold E. Blight, 33 degree, K.T.
Reality forever eludes us."
The Lost Keys of Freemasonry - Manly P. Hall.
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"INTRODUCTION
Freemasonry, though not a religion, is essentially religious."
The Lost Keys of Freemasonry - Manly P. Hall.
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Quote:
"catholicism hate freemasonry as they think someone should not have secrets"

Does this mean that you have secrets masonic3 ?
Possibly a hidden agenda ?
What secrets would you like to share with all of us on this forum ?
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These good folk swell our numbers and fill our money-box. Set yourselves to work; these gentlemen must be made to nibble at the bait. . .but this sort of people must always be made to believe that the grade they have achieved is the last.
- Adam Weishaupt (founder of the illuminati, 1776).
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Let's put this altogether masonic3.

"Reality forever eludes us."
Reynold E. Blight, 33rd degree. K.T.

Is reality eluding you as you think that there is only three degrees ?

"Freemasonry, though not a religion, is essentially religious"
Manly P. Hall.

Reality obviously has eluded Manly P. Hall. Maybe if we alter the words religion and religious we can come up with a meaning.

Freemasonry, though not a falsehood, is essentially false.
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G'day Masonic3.

Do you remember these questions ???

Do you have any answers ???

Or, are you going to avoid them again ???

With LOVE.

[Mo0n5tar]

Well this is an interesting bit of additional info you may be interested in:

Originally posted here (http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...25042D818535740)

The True origin of Scottish Rite Freemasonry

According to the Masonic Quiz Book:
Ask Me Another, Brother
by William Peterson

"The Jesuits wrote the first 25 rites of Scottish Freemasonry in then College de Clermont in Paris in 1754"

"Chevalier de Bonneville [like the Bonneville automobile manufactured by Chevrolet/General Motors] formed a chapter of twenty-five Degrees of the so-called High-Degrees in the College of Jesuits of Clermont, in Paris in 1754. The adherents of the House of Stuart had made the college of Clermont their asylum, they being mostly Scotchmen. One of these Degrees being the "Scottish Master," the new body organized in Charleston, S.C., in 1801, gave the name of Scottish Rite to these Degrees, which name ever since that time has characterized the Rite all over the world."


In a letter written by Charles Sotheran addressed to the New York Press Club, dated January 11, 1877,:
"It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fesslor's Rite, the 'Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West Sovereign Prince Masons', etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsey, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others, who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris."

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=24254

[Mo0n5tar]

More excerpts from the myspace blog

SCOTISM

The Council of Trent defined as dogma a series of doctrines especially emphasized by the Scotists (e.g. freedom of the will, free co-operation with grace, etc..). In other points the canons were intentionally so framed that they do not affect Scotism (e.g. that the first man was constitutus in holiness and justice). This was also done at the Vatican Council. In the Thomistic-Molinistic controversy concerning the foreknowledge of God, predestination, the relation of grace to free will, the Scotists took little part. They either supported one of the parties, or took up a middle position, rejecting both the predetermination of the Thomists and the scientia media of the Molinists. God recognizes the free future acts in His essence, and provides a free decree of His will, which does not predetermine our free will, but only accompanies it.

Scotism and the Jesuit tradition

Jesuit philosophers and theologians adopted a series of the Scotist propositions. Later authorities reject in part many of these propositions and another series of propositions was misunderstood even by Catholic theologians, and then in this false sense rightly rejected -- e.g. the doctrine of the univocatio entis, of the acceptation of the merits of Christ and man, etc.

Numerous other propositions have been accepted or at least favourably treated by a large number of Catholic scholars and amongst these are many propositions from psychology: e.g. that the powers of the soul are not merely accidents even natural and necessary of the soul, that they are not really distinct from the substance of the soul or from one another etc.

They also took from Scotism many propositions concerning the doctrine of the angels.


The latter's work on Scotist theology was so notorious that it was publicly burned by Martin Luther.

THE SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY IS AN ARM OF THE VATICAN(JESUITISM)!!!

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=18558387&blogID=244943949&Mytoken=33E6C79F-6081-4808-8506FDDEA25042D818535740

[tinmenace]

No more "goat" references M3. I think I've been fair and patient with you. Next time it's bye bye again. The choice is yours.

[masonic3]

No more "goat" references M3. I think I've been fair and patient with you. Next time it's bye bye again. The choice is yours.



Sorry it was an old quote forgot to delete it:(

[Mo0n5tar]

Masonic i think it's time you bowed out of here with your underhand goat referances, why don't you answer some of I ams questions?

[i am all i am]

Gods
Oneness
Awakening
The
Satanists

If we are the "goats" (gods oneness), who are the satanists ???

With LOVE.

P.S. - still no answer to the questions masonic3.

[tinmenace]

Ooh! Are we playing this one then? Ok, I have a few unanswered questions myself:


Originally Posted by masonic3 View Post
I will try my best to answer them.

Q.So it's main source of allegory is the bible, but it's not a religion although it "demands of it's members a belief in a Supreme Being.."
A. Yes?! Don’t understand? You must have a god.

Q.It's not a religion, all the rituals and craft are based on the bible and King Solomon’s temple, members join in prayer to The Supreme Being...
A.No craft is not based on the bible and has nothing to do with “king Solomon” him self, its based on the “Morals” of the builders of king Solomon’s temple.
Members pray for them self like before Dinner nothing more.

Q.But don't tell me... it's not a religion! I'm with you now..
A. No way is it a religion.


Why must you have a god?


If it's not a religion, why do you have temples?


Why does Albert Pike, in his book "Morals and Dogma", Pike writes (Italics my emphasis):

"Every Masonic lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion...Masonry, like all religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead...to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it... The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason… every man's conception of God must be proportioned to his mental cultivation, and intellectual powers, and moral excellence. God is, as man conceives him, the reflected image of man himself."


He also says that the lower ranking Feemasons know not what is really going on:

"The Blue Degrees are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry... It is well enough for the mass of those called Masons, to imagine that all is contained in the Blue Degrees; and whoso attempts to undeceive them will labor in vain."

Would you say this describes your current condition?

How do you explain the massive difference between what you believe Freemasonry is, and what the renowned Albert Pike believed it meant?

[midwich cuckoo]

I thought freemasons weren't supposed to tell, under fear of death?. :confused:

Like what happened to Captain William Morgan after he wrote a book exposing freemasonry.

[tinmenace]

I thought he drowned in a barrel of Rum?


Juuuust kidding!