Spinnaker Tower Portsmouth/Dubai

[schaff]

I had to take someone to the hospital today and while i was waiting i flicked through a magazine and i noticed that there is another spinnaker tower in Dubai aswell as the one near me (isle of wight) in portsmouth.
Does anyone know if it represents anything in particular?
cheers
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2345/1587013171_3078ce4e71.jpg?v=0

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pm/images/duba.JPG

[schaff]

I found this aswell. Its being built in Thailand.
What i meant to say in my first post was does the shape of this mean anything else( apart from a sail) as it would be weird if they started appearing all over the world.
http://www.cbre.co.th/cbre_thailand/PropertyDetail.aspx?PropertyID=984

[niall]

I was up on culver down the other day on the isle of wight meet up and someone pointed out that the monument on it lines up with the spinnaker tower.
http://www.isle-of-wight-memorials.org.uk/images/bem/bembridgeyarborough2.jpg
The obelisk is in memory of Charles Anderson-Pelham, 1st Earl of Yarborough and has loads of symbolism on it. Some of the creatures on it look like serpant/dragon stuff. Very illuminati.
The link below is the clearest picture i could find of the symbols.There are a couple of wierd creatures on the crest thing.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1023/1350643987_bf3f276d62.jpg?v=0

[lookfar]

Hi schaff/niall:)

Interesting thread, I think there's gotta be something symbolic about the sail shape for sure, although I don't know the meaning behind it. Does anyone else know about this/what it represents?

I hadn't connected the two until I read that. It would be interesting to find out if they're both located on the same energy/ley line or something...

[niall]

Hi schaff/niall:)

It would be interesting to find out if they're both located on the same energy/ley line or something...

Do you know how we can find out?

[lottie]

Well on first thoughts i was under the impression that the whole tower represented or looked similar to the female genitalia......
Spinnaker Tower Portsmouth


http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/319/6961862spinnakertowerinky9.jpg

Its shape was chosen by Portsmouth residents from a selection of concepts. The tower, designed by local firm HGP Architects and the engineering consultants Scott Wilson and built by Mowlem,[1] reflects Portsmouth's maritime history by being modeled after a sail.



The Burj Al Arab

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/492/200pxdubaymxcr1.jpg

The Burj Al Arab stands on an artificial island 280 metres (919 ft) out from Jumeirah beach, and is connected to the mainland by a private curving bridge. It is an iconic structure, designed to symbolize Dubai's urban transformation and to mimic the sail of a boat.


It all reminds me of this;

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/824/fishheadru1.jpg

(PS; I stole all this from Tinmenace's thread on symbolism....just to give her credit as she did an enormous amount of research!! :)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2368)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/4408.gif

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/mandorla.jpg

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/44/4411.html

44:11 · The sign is based on , vesica piscis (fish bladder), or the mystical almond. It was adopted by Christian symbolism from pagan symbolism. In the early Christian art Christ depicted during the torture on the cross often was given an almond-shaped halo, the mandorla, the mystical almond. The way to symbolize holiness with a halo or a nimbus is much older than Christianity, though. In the antiquity artists sometimes painted nimbuses around the heads of their gods when picturing them.
The mandorla has also been used in Cabbalistic mysticism.
The central sign, , is the common part of the two circles of for sexual love and togetherness. Christianity implanted its renouncing of sexual pleasures and acitivities in , and it eventually became a sign to denote purity, virginity and continence.
That is why in modern times has been used in meteorology to signify exceptionally clear air or excellent visibility. In accordance with the law of the polarity of meanings of elementary graphs it has also been used in some meteorological contexts in the United States to indicate that visibility is impaired by smoke.
The mystical almond surrounded by the halo thus is a symbol for Christ, the Son of God, the Saviour.


BUT on reflection as i was watching this- the other night....

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rK-i81uacqU

.....and this chap talks about the boat representing the female and the mast/sail representing the male (phalic like).

Also this quote from Albert Pike (Freemason);

"These two divinities… were commonly symbolized by the generative parts of man and woman… The Phallus and Cteis (vagina), emblems of generation and production, and which, as such, appeared in the Mysteries. The Indian Lingam was the union of both, as were the Boat and Mast, and the Point within the Circle… Pike Albert, "Morals and Dogma," p. 401.


Ship are generally larger than boats, but share many of the same meanings. They can be solar or lunar, carrying these two celestial bodies across the seas. With their close connection to WATER, ships often bear signifigance as fertility symbols, and are linked to the Great Mother. The Christian church is sometimes referred to as a ship or the ARK, with the mast of the ship being the CROSS.


The boat represents a journey, a crossing, adventure, and exploration. It is also the femininity and "sheltering aspect of the Great Mother" (Cooper, 1978). Reference in literature as the cradle rediscovered (the mother's womb).


Im now inclined to say 'yes' the Spinnaker Tower is a huge phallic symbol dominating the solent.

Interesting to note that i found this....

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/7008/clockandtowerdayty4.jpg

Just across the water in Gosport inline with the Spinnaker tower....This quote was with it!



On Wednesday 25th August 2004, Gosport Borough Council organised a ceremony to mark the Town's 800th birthday with a Civic Procession led by the Mayor ending at the Timespace on the Millennium Promenade. A short service was held and children representing Newtown School buried a time capsule, which, if unearthed in hundreds of years time might give those who find it an insight into how we live today.



From Wikipedia...The Spinnaker Tower is a 170 m (558 ft)–high tower in Portsmouth, United Kingdom. It is the centrepiece of the redevelopment of Portsmouth Harbour, which was supported by a National Lottery grant. Its shape was chosen by Portsmouth residents from a selection of concepts. The tower, designed by local firm HGP Architects and the engineering consultants Scott Wilson and built by Mowlem,[1] reflects Portsmouth's maritime history by being modeled after a sail. After several years of delays and cost overruns, it was opened on 18 October 2005.

Footnote:- Common Purpose related??:confused:

The project was over budget, with an overall cost of £35.6 million for the tower alone. Taxpayers were not meant to fund the tower, but Portsmouth City Council eventually contributed £11.1 million towards construction.

Typical, the poor people of Portsmouth are still paying for it via their Council Tax! :mad:

[lottie]

Im still working on this post so its all a bit of a mish mash and doesnt flow....bear with me!! :D

[lottie]

Anyway....
The tower, designed by local firm HGP Architects and the engineering consultants Scott Wilson and built by Mowlem,[1] reflects Portsmouth's maritime history by being modeled after a sail.

Mowlem were awarded a Royal Warrant in 1902 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Warrant

Funny that isnt it?

Something that Jennf spotted when she visited the Spinnker tower was this.....

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/7595/120pxspinnakerstaircasern1.jpg

Inside the Burj Al Arab

http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4596/800pxburjinsidebl0.jpg

[niall]

Wow! Well done lottie, me and schaff thought it must have an important meaning but you've took it to a whole new level.

[lottie]

Just out of interest....I stumbled across this today....
From the Daily Echo...

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/search/display.var.2068352.0.pyramid_selling_a_landmark_t o_the_city.php

DEVELOPERS want to be build Britain's biggest artistic landmark in Southampton.

http://img227.imageshack.us/img227/6800/full866208solarpyramidxh6.jpg

They say the enormous £3.5m structure - which would stretch almost 150ft into the sky - could finally give Southampton the elusive wow factor.

Dubbed the Solar Pyramid, the giant green sundial would be the world's largest timepiece and could attract 400,000 visitors a year.

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If built, it would be almost as tall as the 156ft Southampton Civic Centre clock tower and rival Portsmouth's 447ft Spinnaker Tower as a major tourist attraction on the south coast.

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http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/5671/full869284pyramid1ds4.jpg

Project architect Richard Swain said the Solar Pyramid would be "truly iconic" gateway landmark.

"We did hear Southampton was looking for a landmark and as far as we are concerned Southampton is the premier city on the south coast and the gateway to Britain," he said.
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Plans to build the Solar Pyramid in Poole collapsed last month after a huge public outcry.

Originally planned for Derbyshire and then Poole in Dorset, the Solar Pyramid was described as the most exciting "art meets science" project in the country.

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THE people of a small former coal-mining town in north Derbyshire loved it, while many of our south coast neighbours in Poole couldn't wait to kill it off.

Now it is up to Southampton to decide if it wants to be known as the home of "The Solar Pyramid - The World's Tallest Timepiece".


The structure would consist of three giant blades leaning towards an apex 148ft (45m) above ground level. The blades will create the illusion of a pyramid structure, but won't actually meet, and cast a shadow across a 213ft (65m) piazza.

The piazza's complex paving pattern will incorporate an equation of time calculation - a wriggling line around the base of the pyramid that acts as a calendar as well as the clock.

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7162/pyramidscaleqb8.gif


So they thought they'd try Southampton instead- they're pretty determined to build a pyramid somewhere arn't they?

[smoggy88]

isnt Portsmouths new footy ground Called the Spinnaker Stadium aswell, some one posted a picture before saying from above it looked like an Eye.

[2013]

good thread and good work Lottie The pictures here remind me of the chalice well in Glastonbury the vesica piscis this link here has the chalice well lid and the same pic you posted Lottie .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesica_piscis
might not mean anything but if there is a circle within or without the design it is incorporating the feminine within it then :D

[niall]

Great work lottie.Here are a few things i found on the solar pyramid.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/dorset/7183606.stm
Comic relief are also involved and they are selling moments in time for charity! Have a look at the article below.
http://www.comicrelief.solarpyramid.co.uk/

Is it me or does the name of this company sound a little bit reptilian? Also notice the 8 pointed star inside the pyramid. Isnt that something to do with zion?
http://www.dragonhelicopters.co.uk/solar.html



http://www.dragonhelicopters.co.uk/images/solar1.jpg
This is something being built in india and i expect they will sstart to spring up in alot more places.
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2006/03/solar_pyramids.php
And this is a map i found of leylines. Looks to me like the spinaker tower is either on one or very close to it.I'm sure the pyramid will be to.
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6144/49ad6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/6144/49ad6.1ed73b5c95.jpg (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=232&i=49ad6.jpg)

[truthseeker1980]

My flatmate went to Dubai, earlier in the year and took a picture of the inside of the tower. if you stand in the main receptionyou can look all the way up to the roof, which is shaped like a pyramid, with split divisions and an uncapped top.

I'll get him to bluetooth it to me then put on here soon.