NKOTM finds:A conspiracy against David Icke.

[new king of the mountain]

limelady posted this recently and I think it's important information. If it's true, there is a conspiracy against Icke on the internet and everyone here MUST be aware::

David Icke has had Internet intelligence creeps following him round for many years now....their job is to get onto internet forums (like this one) under different identities in order to cause chaos and doubt wherever possible. Such people 'stick out like dogs balls', as their modus operandi is ALWAYS the same. Such people are paid to sit on their bum all day and write tripe to distract and cause doubt. KOTM is so obviously one of them, and the fact that he is here in this new forum carrying on as he always has in the old one is very telling. To enter into dialoge with such a person is to allow yourself to be distracted and swayed off track, and this is EXACTLY what this fool is paid to do......get truth seekers off track.

If you really care about the work, learn to intuitively recognise these 'professional muck stirrers' and stop being drawn into their taunting....every time you do, you are helping them earn their pay packet. This guy doesn't give two hoots about David Icke or the work....he is PAID to discredit David's personal integrity... ITS HIS JOB! He is being paid to discredit David, not his work which stands alone as an amazing body of research. The Royal Adams court case was likely another case in point. Adams was probably an undercover stooge (or a mind-controlled dupe) who was paid to become David's friend, then 'set him up'. The idea being to keep him tied up in costly litergation trying to get back the rights to his own work. This is how the the intel world works.....keep your victim distracted and worrying about copyright issues and stressing about finances to pay for it all, then he has less time for researching and writing the stuff that's so threatening to the secret keepers. THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT. What David exposes is very damaging to the secret keepers.

I don't want to insult anybody here, but REALLY folks, you need to become a lot more savvy.....things are going to get a lot rougher soon, and if you are already allowing yourselves to be taken in and distracted so easily by such an OBVIOUS goon, just imagine how easily some of the more crafty goons are going to be able to hijack your thinking?.......Well, what more can I say....you've read the books - you know as well as I do what we're all up against. You need to learn how to ignore the blowflies.....swatting them is ineffective, the buzzing just gets worse.....JUST IGNORE THEM....there is real work to do and we can no longer afford the luxury of time these people love to waste.

[teslafire]

To be honest ever since 'Infinite love is the only truth' I've been highly suspect of the man himself...and then the Brandon Corey crap reinforced that sentiment to the nth degree.

I honestly believe the David Icke of Children of the Matrix fame would spot his new thesis of 'love is the only truth' as blatant dogmatic new age bollocks.

I'm even more upset that longtime Icke followers are unable to spot this glaring discrepancy.

[purple is a fruit]

A conspiracy against Icke on the internet? you state this as though it is something new? As Limelady correctly states, David has had these people deliberately doing this for many years now. And this thread seems as though it is heading that way again. Too predictable. Anyone who knows of David's work (and the work of others) will know that he is constantly attacked via forums and websites. For anyone new to the topic and to this forum, you will see the same names coming up over and over again deliberately attempting to hijack any decent threads. Probably the same person under many names. One has to learn to see through this and as Limelady says...IGNORE THEM COMPLETELY and do not take the bait, as then they are achieving EXACTLY what they set out to do. This forum has the potential to provoke some very worthwhile discussions but as long as these others continually lead everyone off the track, nothing will be achieved of any worth. Please everyone let us only concentrate on what is important here and learn to steer your own boat by your own gut with these threads. The game players here are very obvious.

[societyisthematrix]

A conspiracy against Icke on the internet? you state this as though it is something new? As Limelady correctly states, David has had these people deliberately doing this for many years now. And this thread seems as though it is heading that way again. Too predictable. Anyone who knows of David's work (and the work of others) will know that he is constantly attacked via forums and websites. For anyone new to the topic and to this forum, you will see the same names coming up over and over again deliberately attempting to hijack any decent threads. Probably the same person under many names. One has to learn to see through this and as Limelady says...IGNORE THEM COMPLETELY and do not take the bait, as then they are achieving EXACTLY what they set out to do. This forum has the potential to provoke some very worthwhile discussions but as long as these others continually lead everyone off the track, nothing will be achieved of any worth. Please everyone let us only concentrate on what is important here and learn to steer your own boat by your own gut with these threads. The game players here are very obvious.

Thank you! That was very enlightening. I have some questions for you or limelady or anyone who cares to comment, if you don't mind:

1. Who is paying these people? I've heard Icke say that internet disinfo is mainly a military operation. What's your opinion about that?

2. Why do these people do this work with such glee? In my mind's eye, I see an office somewhere with these goons sitting at their computers busily typing away producing their bs. It seems like a really boring job to me, especially if, as you say, "This guy doesn't give two hoots about David Icke or the work." I mean, I know that if I had the job you're describing (I never would do it but just for instance) and I was assigned to say, a country music board (a type of music I can't stand) or even a UFO board (something I'm mildly interested in), I would get bored really quickly.

But, the people on the Icke board seem to just enjoy their work immensely, if they have no interest in the subject matter, how can they enjoy what they're doing so much?

3. If David Icke knows that this is going on then why is he allowing "The Forum" to keep using his name in the site's URL (http://www.davidickeforum.com). If they didn't have David Icke's name in the URL, the whole operation would be over, IMHO.

[limelady]

Hey, another fruit! Hello and welcome purple person! Nice to see there's somebody else who can spot the goons!

If anybody would like to have a bit of a fun chat about symbolism, I have started a new thread in the symbolism category. Here is the link to save you searching.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1692#post1692

Best
Lime

[societyisthematrix]

Hey, another fruit! Hello and welcome purple person! Nice to see there's somebody else who can spot the goons!

If anybody would like to have a bit of a fun chat about symbolism, I have started a new thread in the symbolism category. Here is the link to save you searching.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1692#post1692

Best
Lime

Are you ignoring my questions? :confused:

[limelady]

I wrote you a reply last night just before the thread was deleted by the mods. It went west. Here is a quickie.

1. David is right.
2. They get psyche tested and hand picked for the work. Just because they work for an intelligence agency doesn't mean they are intelligent. In every profession there are those who are unlikely to make it up the ladder to things more worthwhile. If they appear to enjoy their work, its likely because there personality is well suited to the work....or they have been programmed for the task.

3 I am not David Icke, therefore I will not concern myself with answering on his behalf.

[thirdwave]

Thank you! That was very enlightening. I have some questions for you or limelady or anyone who cares to comment, if you don't mind:

1. Who is paying these people? I've heard Icke say that internet disinfo is mainly a military operation. What's your opinion about that?

2. Why do these people do this work with such glee? In my mind's eye, I see an office somewhere with these goons sitting at their computers busily typing away producing their bs. It seems like a really boring job to me, especially if, as you say, "This guy doesn't give two hoots about David Icke or the work." I mean, I know that if I had the job you're describing (I never would do it but just for instance) and I was assigned to say, a country music board (a type of music I can't stand) or even a UFO board (something I'm mildly interested in), I would get bored really quickly.

But, the people on the Icke board seem to just enjoy their work immensely, if they have no interest in the subject matter, how can they enjoy what they're doing so much?

3. If David Icke knows that this is going on then why is he allowing "The Forum" to keep using his name in the site's URL (http://www.davidickeforum.com). If they didn't have David Icke's name in the URL, the whole operation would be over, IMHO.


the bottom line is all this shit makes people stress , where stress comes addictions follow... from drink and drugs to just General habits... and many people feel a strong need to put people like Icke down... whether they have a point or not... no one is perfect , of course Icke will have faults, he is human, but these people are not really interested in any justice... they are simply satisfying a need to shoot the massager and their really is no point conversing with them.... Im thankful this place looks like it has a good moderator that will do a decent job despite the rubbish already coming out that this place does not have free speech... just because they are not aloud to treat Icke like shit and to bully and hound anyone who likes the man on a David Icke forum, if they are that bothered why don't they stat a David Icke Haters forum?

[societyisthematrix]

2. They get psyche tested and hand picked for the work. Just because they work for an intelligence agency doesn't mean they are intelligent. In every profession there are those who are unlikely to make it up the ladder to things more worthwhile. If they appear to enjoy their work, its likely because there personality is well suited to the work....or they have been programmed for the task.


Thank you for that! How do you know for sure that that's the case?

My God, I just recently watched this movie called D.E.B.S. (that's de - bees, the bees, the elite are laughing at you, assholes!) and it described exactly what you're talking about!

Plot synopsis: Recruited by the U.S. government for their unique abilities to lie, cheat and fight, as well as exceptional SAT scores--four plaid-skirted high school girls are drafted to be secret agents. They soon become highly trained, fabulously dressed, top-secret agents, known as D.E.B.S....

I'm sure that the real assholes don't look like this though:

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/screen_gems/d_e_b_s_/debs_bigposter.jpg

Anyways, here's more info about the movie, it's pretty enlightening:
http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/1808471145/info

One of the interesting details of this movie was that the bosses of these girls just appear and disappear into thin air when they have to talk and when they're done talking. It's not clear whether it's like the thing in star trek "beam me up scotty" or if the bosses are actually HOLOGRAMS because it's never discussed how these "people" just appear and disappear seemingly at will and no one blinks an eye (like it's totally normal)! Consider how Icke says that a lot of the people at the upper levels of government are actual holograms, I've never seen that in a non-fantasy movie before... That's just one of the interesting details in this movie.

[societyisthematrix]

if they are that bothered why don't they stat a David Icke Haters forum?

Then they couldn't suck the real fan's energy. "The Forum" is like a gang rape, day in and day out (pun intended). Unsuspecting people go there expecting an intelligent discussion of Icke's work and related subjects and they meet a bunch of thugs in a proverbial dark alley, it ain't pretty.

Oh and these guys are crafty too. Look at this thread title from this forum, "Has Icke stopped lying?", that's a variation on the old "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" putting Icke fans on the defensive from the word go. Not to mention implanting the suggestion that Icke is a liar because that message will enter into the sub conscience of everyone that reads that thread title!

[purple is a fruit]

Yes they work in very transparent ways don't they!! Laughable really yet rather sad for them at the same time, I'm off to check out limelady's new thread, care to join me?

oh yaaa

[thirdwave]

Then they couldn't suck the real fan's energy. "The Forum" is like a gang rape, day in and day out (pun intended). Unsuspecting people go there expecting an intelligent discussion of Icke's work and related subjects and they meet a bunch of thugs in a proverbial dark alley, it ain't pretty.

Oh and these guys are crafty too. Look at this thread title from this forum, "Has Icke stopped lying?", that's a variation on the old "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" putting Icke fans on the defensive from the word go. Not to mention implanting the suggestion that Icke is a liar because that message will enter into the sub conscience of everyone that reads that thread title!

Totally, a good description!, and I think the reason because it used to be a really cool forum. hence why it is in ruins now.

I think it is started by people ..probably Freemasons working in IT and are pushed to do this stuff... the rest are just sheep, some of the people there chop and change their views like a computer program and are very easy to confuse because they are always looking for new info to back up their last "hit" of info, if this info does not do it for them, they fall apart and go on the attack.. ...I always think first instincts are pretty cool, the first bit of info you hear than inspires you and taps into your memory is good, and thats all you really need, anything else you need to know will come to you...

[purple is a fruit]

It's kind of like they have pre typed automated responses huh? what does that remind you of........think......computer analogies....hmmmmm programs
Just my thoughts

[societyisthematrix]

I think it is started by people ..probably Freemasons working in IT and are pushed to do this stuff...

So you're saying that the thugs at "The Forum" are freemasons and not intelligence/military employees?

[societyisthematrix]

Yes they work in very transparent ways don't they!! Laughable really yet rather sad for them at the same time, I'm off to check out limelady's new thread, care to join me?

oh yaaa

That's not my cup of tea, thanks anyways.

It's kind of like they have pre typed automated responses huh? what does that remind you of........think......computer analogies....hmmmmm programs
Just my thoughts

That's another interesting idea. The only thing about that is that the messages are usually too specific to the situation to have been created by computer, IMHO.

[purple is a fruit]

I wasn't actually talking to you, i forgot you were there
awfully sorry, maybe others on this thread may be interested though, it's getting rather repetitive in here.Who cares really who these 'thugs' (rather tame description) are. They are pathetic, boring, see through and utterly annoying :)

[teslafire]

...so no one thinks its strange that Icke endorsed the Brandon Corey story?

How incredibly telling.

[thirdwave]

So you're saying that the thugs at "The Forum" are freemasons and not intelligence/military employees?

I would say if there is anyone over there on duty so to speak (which i am pretty sure there is) I would lean more towards Freemasons in well paid IT jobs who have been given some instructions of a "well paid job". ...more than military folk doing so ...although im not a pro in this field, hell it might be both... from my expiriance high degree freemasons come across very cold, like i sence a hate in them and such a power trip, as if they would love to express the power they have over people like us.... they look down on you as if you do not deserve the air as much as they do ... and sometimes when you argue back at people on the forum I get this same vibe off them.... but you might be right with the military thing, i guess at the end of the day its all part of the same thing anyway...

[thirdwave]

...so no one thinks its strange that Icke endorsed the Brandon Corey story?

How incredibly telling.

why is it bad he endorsed it?, it promoted his books and he was made out to be quite interesting in it.... for a low budget movie, if your into this stuff its ok, wont make you rush out and buy the T shirt but ok with a cupa tea and mates.

[teslafire]

why is it bad he endorsed it?, it promoted his books and he was made out to be quite interesting in it.... for a low budget movie, if your into this stuff its ok, wont make you rush out and buy the T shirt but ok with a cupa tea and mates.

At the expense of making him look like a fool. It was originally marketed as the real deal by the filmmakers AND Mr. Icke. It wasn't until people were outright insulted did they then say they took dramatic liscense.

Do you ever pay attention this was discussed at length when it came out?

[seamus]

That's another interesting idea. The only thing about that is that the messages are usually too specific to the situation to have been created by computer, IMHO.

have you ever had a conversation with "live help" type tech support? It is slow enough to be a computer trying to be human, and the answers are always canned. If you start to ask them if they are a machine, you'll just get disconnected. Even if you ask politely.

One time I told one of these "reps" NOT to tell me the motherboard specs again, that I was not asking for the motherboard specs that can be found in the manual, I wanted to know if high-density memory was supported by the board. This is after we had already gone back and forth a couple of times, with he she it telling me the specs over and over. AGAIN i get the specs in the manual quoted to me. So finally I said "so you are a computer program, huh?" and I just got disconnected.

:rolleyes:

...so no one thinks its strange that Icke endorsed the Brandon Corey story?

How incredibly telling.

I find it very strange. I smelled a rat at the first "interview". I smelled BAD ACTING! Just like the film "the third alternative" which is rather entertaining if you don't believe it. It could be infuriating if you did, because at the end it basically says "april fools".

anytime you see someone chain-smoking during an interview, you know they're acting. people don't do that. I can't now remember if that was in the corey film or in the third alternative... the interview with corey's wife reeked of unnatural behavior. Not traumatized or weird... forced.

I wish David would come right out and say something like "okay folks I was taken in."


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[seamus]

Oh by the way

for everyone's information,
I just got interested in David Icke recently, in the last 2 months, I was looking for a forum and about a week and a half ago signed up for "the forum". I still have not gotten approval to membership or a response to my inquiry as to what's taking so long.

it appears the PTB may have abandoned the forum to smolder and eventually die out.

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[societyisthematrix]

...so no one thinks its strange that Icke endorsed the Brandon Corey story?

How incredibly telling.

This is a common debating tactic at "The Forum", when you're losing an argument, just insert a new, totally unrelated subject. :confused:

[king]

I heard that David is a Mason.
Oak in German is Icke, that is masonic name.

what do you think?
:confused:

[purple is a fruit]

I heard that David is a Mason.
Oak in German is Icke, that is masonic name.

what do you think?
:confused:


That one has done the rounds too many times to count now.:rolleyes:
nothing to be confused about, it's simply put.......CRAP:D

[thirdwave]

To be honest ever since 'Infinite love is the only truth' I've been highly suspect of the man himself...and then the Brandon Corey crap reinforced that sentiment to the nth degree.

I honestly believe the David Icke of Children of the Matrix fame would spot his new thesis of 'love is the only truth' as blatant dogmatic new age bollocks.

I'm even more upset that longtime Icke followers are unable to spot this glaring discrepancy.


have you any points you can bring up to clarify your views...

what new points where brought up in ILITOT compared to COTM?

to me I think he has been very focused and steadfast in his views and information which is very encouraging when you see him creep back into the mainstream with the same presentation he has always had, so im interested to here your points on why you feel he has changed.

[thirdwave]

At the expense of making him look like a fool. It was originally marketed as the real deal by the filmmakers AND Mr. Icke. It wasn't until people were outright insulted did they then say they took dramatic liscense.

Do you ever pay attention this was discussed at length when it came out?

I pay very close attention, and while doing so its clear that you have compelaty got this Movie wrong.

it was advertised from day one as "The New Hollywood MOVIE, reveals dick Cheney to be a satanist"

if some people are so un educated or ignorant enough to not understand what "HOLLYWOOD MOVIE" represents then it really is not worth worrying about what these people think.

As for David Icke being made a fool of, I think that is a very strange comment... his books were clearly advertised in the movie as well as him having the time to point out some of his very good points... at first he was made out to be a bit crazy by the Brandon Character and then as the film goes on he is made out to be special. they also acted out well the way people nowadays are tempted to believe him even if they don't like to admit it to them selfs...

I do remember on the other forum this subject coming up and it was one of the things that pointed out to me how many people on that forum must not be very bright having got so confused over something so very simple.

[purple is a fruit]

I pay very close attention, and while doing so its clear that you have compelaty got this Movie wrong.

it was advertised from day one as "The New Hollywood MOVIE, reveals dick Cheney to be a satanist"

if some people are so un educated or ignorant enough to not understand what "HOLLYWOOD MOVIE" represents then it really is not worth worrying about what these people think.

As for David Icke being made a fool of, I think that is a very strange comment... his books were clearly advertised in the movie as well as him having the time to point out some of his very good points... at first he was made out to be a bit crazy by the Brandon Character and then as the film goes on he is made out to be special. they also acted out well the way people nowadays are tempted to believe him even if they don't like to admit it to them selfs...

I do remember on the other forum this subject coming up and it was one of the things that pointed out to me how many people on that forum must not be very bright having got so confused over something so very simple.


Some people just choose not to 'get' some things on purpose I think. It's all about perception, and some people would prefer to perceive this movie as David Icke being made a fool of......and let them be I say...whatever. What cracks me up is that if you do not support or share david's views in the first place, why would you sit down and watch a 2 hour movie with him in it?I mean if you are not a fan of Tom Cruise (which I am most definately not) you wouldn't watch the mission impossible movies would you?Certain people will watch thse things purely to find every reason to take the piss.How sad for them, they should just pop the tele on and watch the news and believe every word of it and save their time:rolleyes:
The best part is, David Icke himself is far beyond really giving a shit what anyone thinks of him, he is out there, doing his thing, and doing it well:D

Purple

[chocky pud]

I heard that David is a Mason.
Oak in German is Icke, that is masonic name.

what do you think?
:confused:

I think its a real pity the king didn't stay dead!:rolleyes:

[purple is a fruit]

I think its a real pity the king didn't stay dead!:rolleyes:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :D

[purple is a fruit]

I think its a real pity the king didn't stay dead!:rolleyes:

I really want to eat your avatar:)

[thirdwave]

Some people just choose not to 'get' some things on purpose I think. It's all about perception, and some people would prefer to perceive this movie as David Icke being made a fool of......and let them be I say...whatever. What cracks me up is that if you do not support or share david's views in the first place, why would you sit down and watch a 2 hour movie with him in it?I mean if you are not a fan of Tom Cruise (which I am most definately not) you wouldn't watch the mission impossible movies would you?Certain people will watch thse things purely to find every reason to take the piss.How sad for them, they should just pop the tele on and watch the news and believe every word of it and save their time:rolleyes:
The best part is, David Icke himself is far beyond really giving a shit what anyone thinks of him, he is out there, doing his thing, and doing it well:D

Purple

yeah, sometimes it is actually quite freaky how closed minded some of them can be, and they truly think they are open minded.... by questioning everything and only putting their faith in something they can three dimensionally perceive they see that as being open minded, when its only allowing your self to understand within a limit, hence so easy to control and manipulate if one can perceive and see past that. hence again why the elite are so eager to keep us in that %10

[king]

limelady posted this recently and I think it's important information. If it's true, there is a conspiracy against Icke on the internet and everyone here MUST be aware::

David Icke has had Internet intelligence creeps following him round for many years now....their job is to get onto internet forums (like this one) under different identities in order to cause chaos and doubt wherever possible. Such people 'stick out like dogs balls', as their modus operandi is ALWAYS the same. Such people are paid to sit on their bum all day and write tripe to distract and cause doubt. KOTM is so obviously one of them, and the fact that he is here in this new forum carrying on as he always has in the old one is very telling. To enter into dialoge with such a person is to allow yourself to be distracted and swayed off track, and this is EXACTLY what this fool is paid to do......get truth seekers off track.

If you really care about the work, learn to intuitively recognise these 'professional muck stirrers' and stop being drawn into their taunting....every time you do, you are helping them earn their pay packet. This guy doesn't give two hoots about David Icke or the work....he is PAID to discredit David's personal integrity... ITS HIS JOB! He is being paid to discredit David, not his work which stands alone as an amazing body of research. The Royal Adams court case was likely another case in point. Adams was probably an undercover stooge (or a mind-controlled dupe) who was paid to become David's friend, then 'set him up'. The idea being to keep him tied up in costly litergation trying to get back the rights to his own work. This is how the the intel world works.....keep your victim distracted and worrying about copyright issues and stressing about finances to pay for it all, then he has less time for researching and writing the stuff that's so threatening to the secret keepers. THIS IS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT. What David exposes is very damaging to the secret keepers.

I don't want to insult anybody here, but REALLY folks, you need to become a lot more savvy.....things are going to get a lot rougher soon, and if you are already allowing yourselves to be taken in and distracted so easily by such an OBVIOUS goon, just imagine how easily some of the more crafty goons are going to be able to hijack your thinking?.......Well, what more can I say....you've read the books - you know as well as I do what we're all up against. You need to learn how to ignore the blowflies.....swatting them is ineffective, the buzzing just gets worse.....JUST IGNORE THEM....there is real work to do and we can no longer afford the luxury of time these people love to waste.


I find your post suspicious.

there is something about David Icke that is not quite right, so why would you put him above the law?
Everyone and everything should be questioned.
the truth is the truth, even when it hurts.

are you paid protector of David Icke by any chance?