View Full Version : David Icke Brixton Reviewed in Latest Show
areyouinformed_co_uk
29-05-2008, 01:08 AM
Hi There,
Our latest show goes over some parts of David Icke's brixton show as well as some Obama/CFR comments and some odd space time reality comments.
Thanks for all your emails and enjoy the show.
AYI Team;)
cruise4
29-05-2008, 01:46 AM
Cheers, having a listen now :)
areyouinformed_co_uk
29-05-2008, 10:33 AM
Thanks! Sorry if you like Mark Knopfler!
edelweiss pirate
29-05-2008, 10:43 AM
Hi There,
Our latest show goes over some parts of David Icke's brixton show as well as some Obama/CFR comments and some odd space time reality comments.
Thanks for all your emails and enjoy the show.
AYI Team;)
That intro music sounds like the Wildhearts.. sounds like a good show.
areyouinformed_co_uk
29-05-2008, 10:50 AM
It's actually my old band!
Anders Lindman
29-05-2008, 10:59 AM
Has David Icke really said that Galloway is a Mossad agent? And the world being ruled by giant lizards, I have heard that one before. Blood-drinking toddler-eating lizards, mind you. :D
Anders Lindman
29-05-2008, 12:49 PM
I don't buy the ideas about time presented in the show.
Picture a virtual reality world. The virtual world has a past stretching back billions of years, and when you enter it, that past can be experienced as it was real, but it's just memory in a computer! Get it? Think of the real world in a similar way. There is only now, and the past is just memory. Does memory contain time? Memory can contain a history record, but not time ITSELF.
And so, so what we got then is the timeless present moment plus memory. No ACTUAL time is needed.
areyouinformed_co_uk
29-05-2008, 04:14 PM
I don't buy the ideas about time presented in the show.
Picture a virtual reality world. The virtual world has a past stretching back billions of years, and when you enter it, that past can be experienced as it was real, but it's just memory in a computer! Get it? Think of the real world in a similar way. There is only now, and the past is just memory. Does memory contain time? Memory can contain a history record, but not time ITSELF.
And so, so what we got then is the timeless present moment plus memory. No ACTUAL time is needed.
I agree with you to some extent. I don't think it was explained that well (I wasn't expecting to do it and lost my way) but I will come back to it another time.
The important bit is that all matter has existed for all time, and time is just a measure of rate of persistance. Nothing can have existed for zero time otherwise it can't exist.
If we exist in a computer simulation style dimension (and I'm not saying that we are) then whoever/whatever is the administrator of that dimension maps the path out making you a participant in a preset path, with free will to interact with that how you want, but there are rules and the rules eventually bind us.
Please email us your comments as this is an open show, and if you have stuff to say we can arrange to have you on the show by phone!
Dave
Anders Lindman
29-05-2008, 04:36 PM
I agree with you to some extent. I don't think it was explained that well (I wasn't expecting to do it and lost my way) but I will come back to it another time.
The important bit is that all matter has existed for all time, and time is just a measure of rate of persistance. Nothing can have existed for zero time otherwise it can't exist.
If we exist in a computer simulation style dimension (and I'm not saying that we are) then whoever/whatever is the administrator of that dimension maps the path out making you a participant in a preset path, with free will to interact with that how you want, but there are rules and the rules eventually bind us.
Please email us your comments as this is an open show, and if you have stuff to say we can arrange to have you on the show by phone!
Dave
If we look at reality as a changing now, then there is no need for time other than as memory. Actually, actual time is redundant! Only memory and a changing present moment is needed. We know that the present moment is real. And we know that the past is real as memory. What we don't know is if the past is more than mere memory. Maybe the past is ONLY memory. By memory here I mean something more general than memory in the human mind or in a computer.
areyouinformed_co_uk
29-05-2008, 05:09 PM
I love that this is discussed. I'm tired of people thinking that what they can feel with their 5 senses is all there is.
loderlive
29-05-2008, 05:24 PM
Hi There,
Our latest show goes over some parts of David Icke's brixton show as well as some Obama/CFR comments and some odd space time reality comments.
Thanks for all your emails and enjoy the show.
AYI Team;)
I'll certainly give the show a go when I can, it is bookmarked in my podcast / audio section.
mercuryrapids
29-05-2008, 05:38 PM
Another excellent show. Well done, guys.
areyouinformed_co_uk
29-05-2008, 06:03 PM
Thank you!
cruise4
29-05-2008, 07:54 PM
"We know that the present moment is real."
No we don't. It appears to be 'relative' to our perspective. We could just be a recording being played by someone else. We know 'nothing', about any of it. And its about time God came along and put me out of this misery of a fraudulent existence.
areyouinformed_co_uk
31-05-2008, 11:05 PM
Thanks for all your emails. The next show is gonna be a cracker, from monsanto to egypt.... as long as all the tech stuff works!
AYI
guyblokeman
31-05-2008, 11:20 PM
HI,
I was listening to your show, good stuff.
One thing though, when you talk about the legendary Gilmour showing illuminati symbolism (the eye I think you mentioned) do you think he`s for or against it?
The reason I ask is that Gilmour obviously has a respect for this guy George Monbiot (he has abit about him on his site), who wrote this article (http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2007/04/24/no-more-ventriloquists/) which is arguing for a one world government.
Your thoughts appreciated.
alice34
31-05-2008, 11:46 PM
Very entertaining, love it guys thanks!:):):)
areyouinformed_co_uk
31-05-2008, 11:59 PM
It's a hard one to work out. I'd like to think the best being a fan, but at the end of the day he's going for all this CO2 nonsense, and Roger Waters believes there will be a big difference between Clinton and Obama.
Most people follow what they think is right and only scratch the surface because they don't link it all together. Sometimes you have to approach the stuff that you don't like to talk about to get it all in perspective.
I spent years concentrating on 9/11 and government structure before I took on board the worldwide magintude of it all. It's hard to perceive and even harder to talk about at first.
It's easy to campaign against the war or against pollution/global warming and feel like you are doing your bit without losing face, because these arguments are seen as rational, but these topics are just the tip of the iceburg and David Gilmour is a very straight man. Although he's had the sex, drugs and rock n roll, he is also the straightest dad figure in the band and I assume he'd see it all as nonsense. He is also hideously rich and most of his audience are middle class sheep, which is what Roger had the problem with before the wall. Roger was the out the box thinker and the others held it together with straighter musicianship, which is why there is more emotion and spirituality in his lyrics.
Gilmours gift to this earth was his guitar playing, and for that I thank him. I have spent years learning his solos. As for the rest, I don't think he adds much for me. Now Matt Bellamy, there's a brave man.......
areyouinformed_co_uk
01-06-2008, 12:00 AM
Very entertaining, love it guys thanks!:):):)
Thanks!
Anders Lindman
01-06-2008, 12:49 AM
"We know that the present moment is real."
No we don't. It appears to be 'relative' to our perspective. We could just be a recording being played by someone else. We know 'nothing', about any of it. And its about time God came along and put me out of this misery of a fraudulent existence.
Of course the present moment is real. Can you read this text now? Of course you can. You cannot deny your own present moment awareness, and this moment is all we can say is reality. The past could 'just' be timeless memory, and the future 'just' projections. You cannot deny your own consciousness without fooling yourself. Your consciousness is real. Otherwise you would not be able to experience this present moment.
The world may 'just' be a hologram, but we cannot say that the world is not real and we cannot say that our own consciousness is not real. Both consciousness and the world experienced by consciousness are real.
Nor can we deny the past and say that the past is not real. What we can question is if the past is just timeless memory or if the past contains actual time in some sense.
guyblokeman
01-06-2008, 01:00 PM
Although he's had the sex, drugs and rock n roll, he is also the straightest dad figure in the band and I assume he'd see it all as nonsense.
Yep, exactly how my dad see`s it! He loves Gilmour and I was hoping he could be a good figure to help waking him up. I`ll have to try another angle.
Now Matt Bellamy, there's a brave man.......
I respect Bellamy`s musicianship, but don`t like the guy! I knew a girl who used to date him, plus he mocked SlipKnoT.
Unforgivable:mad::D.
areyouinformed_co_uk
01-06-2008, 06:08 PM
Yep, exactly how my dad see`s it! He loves Gilmour and I was hoping he could be a good figure to help waking him up. I`ll have to try another angle.
I respect Bellamy`s musicianship, but don`t like the guy! I knew a girl who used to date him, plus he mocked SlipKnoT.
Unforgivable:mad::D.
I woke my dad up by showing him building 7 without telling him what it was and saying what do you think of that. Then again he does own a demolition business and could spot a demolition a mile off! He is still at arms length to it all, due to fear I think, but he does know.
dondaz
01-06-2008, 09:38 PM
Good show guys. You covered a lot of areas. Love the George Galloway bit. I don't know about him having anything to do with mossad, but he definately don't ever tell a complete story, except may Iraq.
Good review of Ickes talk. I was there, it was awsome!
Look forward to your new film too!
Thanks guys:)
areyouinformed_co_uk
01-06-2008, 10:46 PM
Good show guys. You covered a lot of areas. Love the George Galloway bit. I don't know about him having anything to do with mossad, but he definately don't ever tell a complete story, except may Iraq.
Good review of Ickes talk. I was there, it was awsome!
Look forward to your new film too!
Thanks guys:)
Thanks Dondaz,
Nice to hear that from a moderator!
Dave
quest
03-06-2008, 08:21 PM
Only just had the chance to hear your last show. The loose format works really well and you have great skill in putting out extremely valuable information in a refreshing and intelligent way. I look forward to hearing all the prevoius and future shows.
Your review of Brixton was a useful reminder of some of the key elements of the event and I wish I'd listened to it last week, because I'd been searching furiously for that Ellner quote you reminded everybody of that had such an impact on most of us in the hall on the day. I eventually found it in Icke's latest book (page 558), having watched the dvds of the Brixton 2006 event at x32 speed in the hope of finding it!
I hope your interview with Icke comes together: it sounds a fantastic idea.
Well done guys!
diamond dogs
03-06-2008, 10:58 PM
Only just had the chance to hear your last show. The loose format works really well and you have great skill in putting out extremely valuable information in a refreshing and intelligent way. I look forward to hearing all the prevoius and future shows.
Your review of Brixton was a useful reminder of some of the key elements of the event and I wish I'd listened to it last week, because I'd been searching furiously for that Ellner quote you reminded everybody of that had such an impact on most of us in the hall on the day. I eventually found it in Icke's latest book (page 558), having watched the dvds of the Brixton 2006 event at x32 speed in the hope of finding it!
I hope your interview with Icke comes together: it sounds a fantastic idea.
Well done guys!
Is this the quote?...I like this it is a good way of interpreting 'realities' in life..
As David Icke quoted Michael Ellner in Infinite love...;
"Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information and religions destroy spirituality"
areyouinformed_co_uk
04-06-2008, 12:47 PM
Our lastest show is up, check out the thread in general!
areyouinformed_co_uk
04-06-2008, 12:48 PM
I meant latest, not lastest.
applepie
04-06-2008, 06:41 PM
I woke my dad up by showing him building 7 without telling him what it was and saying what do you think of that. Then again he does own a demolition business and could spot a demolition a mile off! He is still at arms length to it all, due to fear I think, but he does know.
He is not just at arms length to it all because of fear, it is also due to his being a FB, so the middle bit is probably more relevant than his arms. It's not easy being FB.
Laters
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