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shakey1
01-02-2012, 01:53 AM
I can't remember. That's pretty sad...
whatsinaname
03-02-2012, 11:51 AM
The Montauk Project Experiments in time by Preston B.Nichols and Peter Moon.
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Guide to the reader
"Because the subject matter of this book is controversial, we would to offer some guidelines.
This book is an excercise in consciousness. It is an invitation to view time in a new manner and expand your awareness of the universe. Time rules our fate and ushers in our death. Although we are regulated by its laws, there is much that we do not know about time and how it relates to out consciousness. Hopefully, at the very least, this information will broaden your horizons.
Some of the data you will read in this book can be considered "soft facts".
Soft facts are are not untrue, they are just not backed up by irrefutible documentaion. A "hard fact" would be documentaion or hard physical evidence that could stand up to scrutiny.
Bt the nature of the subject matter and security considerations, hard facts about the Montauk Project have been very difficult to obtain. There is also an area between soft and hard which can be termed "grey facts". These would be very plausible but not as easily provable as a hard fact.
Any serious investigation will show that a Montauk Project did, in fact, exist.
One can also find people who have been experimented on in some fashion or another. This book is not an attempt to prove anything. The purpose is to get a story told that is of essential interest to scientific researchers, metaphysicians and citizens of planet Earth. It is the story of one particular individual and his circle of contacts. It is hoped that more individuals will come out of the closet and that researchers will come forth with more investigations and documentation.
This work is being presented as non-fiction as it contains no falsehoods to the best knowledge of the authors. However, it can also be read as pure science fiction if that is more suitable to the reader.
A short glossary has been provided in the back of the book to assist with ordinary electronic terms and those of a more esoteric nature.
Scientists who read this book should understand that the difinitions are designed to assist the general reader's understanding. They are not purported to be the latest technical jargon. Likewise, the general reader should understand that the diagrams in this book are included for the benefit of technical people. If one is interested, they can get further understanding of those terms and symbols by the studying the Radio 'Amateur's Handbook' or a text of a similar nature."
It's not a particularly well written book, nor does it go into much detail in any given area, but references for further infomation are given throughout.
I'd give it 9/10 for the information it holds, but only 5/10 for the way it's actually written.
whatsinaname
03-02-2012, 01:19 PM
Penetration By Ingo Swann
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Had to read this on line, as copies of the book are far too expensive.:(
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Here's an excerpt from Ingo's remote viewing of the Moon:
In about fifteen minutes we got back to it. I went through the same process of going away from the Sun until I was at the Moon.
"OK, give me that coordinate-ordinate again"
He did. I wrote it slowly down, making sure I made no error on doing so.
I became aware of a greenish haze, which is what i'd seen before.
This time I decided to go for it, for better or for worse.
"Well, I am in place which is sort of down, like in a crater I suppose. There is this strange green haze, like a light of some kind. Beyond that, all around is dark though. I am wondering where the light is coming from..." I jolted to a stop again.
After a moment, Axel prodded, "yes, what else?"
"Well, you won't like this, I guess, I see, or at least I think I see, well...some actual lights. They are giving off a green light....I see two rows of them...,yes, sort of like lights at football arenas, high up, banks of them.
"Up on towers of some kind..." I gave up here. "Well, Axel, I can't be on the Moon. I guess I have to apologise, I seem to be getting somewhere here on Earth."
Axel stared at me for a moment. He was NOT smiling or looking sympathetic of tolerant. I thought it was all over with.
"You're sure you see lights, actual lights?" he finally asked.
"Well, I see lights, but how can they be on the Moon?"
Axel had a pencil in his hands, which he was twirling around and around.
His not-smile developed into a frown. "Shit" he finally uttered, then broke the pencil in half. I was quite suprised and fully expected him to stand up and leave the room in dismay at my remote-viewing flub, but he did not.
"Lights, huh? You are sure you saw lights?"
"Well yes, but not on the Moon, surely. How could they be on the Moon?"
Axel stared at me, saying nothing.
I can be quite dense I suppose, but something started twanging around in the denseness.
I blinked at Axel. "You mean...," I began, somewhat uncertain as to what to say. I realized I had to select my words carefully.
"Am I to think these lights are actually on the Moon?"
There was no answer forthcoming from Axel. I pressed onward.
"Have the Russians built a Moonbase or something? Is that what I am supposed to be remote-viewing?" Again, no answer.
We sat and stared at each other for a longish period, he not willing to commit.
After a moment of this confrontation, I decided to reassume the initiative.
"Maybe you should give me that coordinate-ordinate again"
Once back in the glow of the greenish lights, I now seemed to have the courage to begin really looking. "Well, the light seems diffused somehow, as if there is a lot of fog - no, it's dust, dust! Floating in the air."
I paused, then continued: "Yet there is no air on the Moon, is there? There is noise of some kind, like a thumping. I can see one of the light towers better now. Hey, it seems built of some narrow struts of some kind, thin like pencils.
Like some sort of pre-fab stuff right out of Buckminster Fuller's stuff."
"How high are the towers?" Axel interrupted.
"Well, high enough. I have to find something against which to compare them. Lets see...hey, there are some of those tractor-tread marks everywhere. If I guess these are about a foot wide, well, then, lets see, if I can compute as correctly as I can, well...." I paused, looking at Axel.
He was not smiling. "Yes?" he arched his eyebrows.
"Well, tall, about-or lets say over a hundred feet, but?"
"But what" Axel asked, leaning foreward.
I swallowed hard and almost chickened out at this point.
"Well, I think I got a glimpse of the crater's edge. On it I think I saw a very large tower, very high that is."
"Yes?"
"Yes, big, really big"
"How big?"
I swallowed again. "Well, if I compare it to something i'm familiar with in New York, about as high as the Secretariat building at the United Nations- which has thirty-nine floors in it."
Axel narrowed his lips. "You can see that, then?"
But this, as i took it, was a question Axel was asking hmself more than me.
Again the silence. I decided to assume whatever initiative I could.
"Am I, then, to assume this stuff teally IS on the Moon? If so, this is more than a Moon base, isn't it, Axel?"
Again, no answer. So I continued: "But this stuff is big. Does NASA or the Soviet space program have capabilities of getting such large stuff onto the Moon? I thought everyone was having trouble getting a couple of guys and a dog into orbit. I thought the only thing we got on the Moon was a flag planted in some crater somewhere."
As I talked myself through all this a certain glimmer began to dawn in the recesses of my mental darkness. I suddenly stopped talking.
I stared incredulously at Axel. "You mean- am I to assume this stuff- is not OURS! Not made on Earth?"
Axel raised his eyebrows, trying to grin. "Quite a surprise, isn't it" he said.
I had a sense he was trying not to be emotional.
Suprise! To say the least! I was completely dumbfounded to the degree that I began taking very short breaths, getting dizzy, thereby.
"I take it you would like a break before we continue" Axel ventured.
What I really needed was a recovery couch. In fact, I still get breathless as i write these very words now.
It's one thing to read about UFOs and stuff in the papers or in books. It is another to hear rumors about military or government having an interest in such matters, rumors which say they have captured aliens and downed alien space craft.
But it's quite another matter to find oneself in a situation which obviously confirms EVERYTHING. Not pricipally because I suddenly knew the rumors were true. But because I found myself in a situation in which I, in my psychic processes, had seen the evidence for myself.
This book gets 10/10 from me.
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The Self, who is to be realized by the purified mind and the illumined consciousness, whose form is light, whose thoughts are true; who, like the ether, remains pure, and unattached; from whom proceed all works, all desires, all odors, all tastes; who prevades all, who is beyond the senses, and in whom there is fullness of joy forever - he is my very Self, dwelling within the lotus of my heart.
Chandogya Upanishad
heartbeatsalute
10-02-2012, 05:20 AM
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The God Conspiracy
indolering
10-02-2012, 06:18 AM
I can't remember. That's pretty sad...
Get with it, shakey. Here's a suggestion: buy David's new book which will be out in a few days. That should inspire you to reboot your brain...:D
Meanwhile, here's something I know you can digest...
Neil Young - War Of Man
Poverty - War of Man - YouTube
http://youtu.be/DdIgZtdonBk
indolering
10-02-2012, 06:31 AM
@whatsinaname: cool selections. I started but never finished the Montauk book, but now I'll make a point of getting a copy from the library.
And thanks for the link to Swann's book - looks fascinating.:cool:
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Chandogya Upanishad
Nice one. Ever read any of Paul Brunton's work?
ozpixie
10-02-2012, 07:14 AM
The Adventures of Marco Polo.
I learned that our so-called leaders are using the same control mechanisms they did back then, from taxes to wars and even to the point of sending in foreign troops to control and quell uprisings.
harvie316
10-02-2012, 02:10 PM
The Adventures of Marco Polo.
I learned that our so-called leaders are using the same control mechanisms they did back then, from taxes to wars and even to the point of sending in foreign troops to control and quell uprisings.
link to book? is it easy to read?
indolering
10-02-2012, 06:40 PM
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The God Conspiracy
Welcome to the forum, heartbeatsalute.
It's helpful if you give a brief description or your opinion of the selection.
There was a lot of controversy surrounding Osho some years ago concerning his devotees, and I never really resonated with his work, but a lot of people like him. Are you a devotee of his? Just curious...thanks for your contribution.
whatsinaname
10-02-2012, 07:41 PM
@whatsinaname: cool selections. I started but never finished the Montauk book, but now I'll make a point of getting a copy from the library.
And thanks for the link to Swann's book - looks fascinating.:cool:
Yeah, The montauk Project is definitely worth a read. It's disjointed in places, but that's hardly surprising, if you consider what the author's been through!
I'm half way through one of his (Preston B. Nichols) other books at the moment.
It's called The Music of Time. Which is basically his work as a sound engineer throughout the 60's and 70's.
He recorded with some big names, and documents how mind control/manipulation was carried out during the recording procedures.
It's starting to really tie in with the Laurel Canyon stuff!
Rest assured, Penetration by Ingo Swann is fascinating throughout.:cool:
heartbeatsalute
10-02-2012, 11:09 PM
Welcome to the forum, heartbeatsalute.
It's helpful if you give a brief description or your opinion of the selection.
There was a lot of controversy surrounding Osho some years ago concerning his devotees, and I never really resonated with his work, but a lot of people like him. Are you a devotee of his? Just curious...thanks for your contribution.
No ,I have just read some of his books and have liked them.
Here it talks about the whole God program exposed to all of us.
heartbeatsalute
11-02-2012, 06:20 AM
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The God Conspiracy
From Superstition to Super-Consciousness
Had forgotten , here goes a review on it.
Mon838 "Sceptical" (UK) - See all my reviews
This review is from: The God Conspiracy: The Path from Superstition to Super Consciousness (Paperback)
I've been waiting to read a book like this for quite a long time!!
I think nobody has questioned the role of religious and political institutions as gracefully and wisely as Osho does in this book.
`Do not believe anything unless you have experienced it. Go on questioning, however long it takes. Religions are not capable of answering sceptical questions, they want only believers.' When I read these lines from the preface for the first time, I said to myself: `I have to buy this book!'
Religious institutions as well as politicians need believers. They create the picture of salvation and protection if you are loyal to unrealistic dogmas. The believers (actually the whole Humanity) that Osho mentions only find frustration because the real Truth is far away from those beliefs-concepts that the mind (Ego) recreates.
The only Truth that any human being recognises is the one that it is connected to your soul, your pure essence that in fact it is part of the Unique Essence of the Universe. And I completely agree with Osho when he says that meditation, silence, no-mind (no beliefs but only experience) opens the door to the real dance with the Existence- it is when you really experience life to the fullest!
This is one of the rare books that have the power to transform your life for good. Definitely A MUST-READ!
ozpixie
11-02-2012, 06:26 AM
link to book? is it easy to read?
Very easy to read, but I bought mine at the local library sale a couple of years ago. $30 for about 70 books :)
Just started The Man in the High Castle by Philip K Dick. The most unusual SF I've ever read, and its great so far.
a collection of articles and interviews from the "Parabola" magazine, plus excerpts from books, plus a DVD - "Meetings with Remarkable Men"
Georgi Ivanovich on the cover
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zen_anarchy
18-02-2012, 03:14 AM
because i can
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what i find bizarre is that the more highbrow the book ,the easier the language it is written in
piece of piss (peace )
heartbeatsalute
18-02-2012, 05:37 AM
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Born To Win
I remember I read this in College ,but would like to re-read it again.
Winner's mentality book.
Born to Win: Transactional Analysis with Gestalt Experiments .
This book goes beyond the Parent, Adult, Child analyis commonly encountered in transactional analysis texts. From my perspective the real value of the book is in the gestalt exercises where you are called upon to examine your relationships with family, friends, and colleagues. This is done in a very exhaustive way, with several exercises at the end of each chapter. They will keep you busy for some time, but will guide you into an understanding of your own thoughts and behaviours, and using that understanding, will allow you to begin to develop a plan as to how you might change them to gain greater feelings of control over sometimes chaotic situations and relationships. Although I have read several TA books before and found them all good, this definitely took me to another level of understanding. I believe its sales over the years testify to the books value.
camreeno
26-02-2012, 11:34 PM
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Fantastic book. I finished it almost two months ago and I'm still thinking about it.
indolering
11-03-2012, 05:26 PM
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I subscribe to the 'Buy Gold and Silver' thread here on this forum and in post #1, the OP recommends this book. I finally read it and learned why the precious metals are one of the few wise investments these days to protect your savings. Well worth the cover price ($10). The thread also is a valuable resource:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=42685
GUIDE TO INVESTING IN GOLD AND SILVER by Mike Maloney
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"Throughout the ages, many things have been used as currency: livestock, grains, spices, shells, beads, and now paper. But only two things have ever been money: gold and silver. When paper money becomes too abundant, and thus loses its value, man always turns back to precious metals. During these times there is always an enormous wealth transfer, and it is within your power to transfer that wealth away from you or toward you." --Michael Maloney, precious metals investment expert and historian; founder and principal, Gold & Silver, Inc.
The essential history of economic cycles that make gold and silver the ultimate monetary standard.
How the U.S. government is driving inflation by diluting our money supply and weakening our purchasing power
Why precious metals are one of the most profitable, easiest, and safest investments you can make
Where, when, and how to invest your money and realize maximum returns, no matter what the economy's state
Essential advice on avoiding the middleman and taking control of your financial destiny by making your investments directly.
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Gnosticism's Christian form grew to prominence in the 2nd century A.D. Ultimately denounced as heretical by the early church, Gnosticism proposed a revealed knowledge of God ("gnosis" meaning "knowledge" in Greek), held as a secret tradition of the apostles. In The Gnostic Gospels, author Elaine Pagels suggests that Christianity could have developed quite differently if Gnostic texts had become part of the Christian canon. Without a doubt: Gnosticism celebrates God as both Mother and Father, shows a very human Jesus's relationship to Mary Magdalene, suggests the Resurrection is better understood symbolically, and speaks to self-knowledge as the route to union with God. Pagels argues that Christian orthodoxy grew out of the political considerations of the day, serving to legitimize and consolidate early church leadership. Her contrast of that developing orthodoxy with Gnostic teachings presents an intriguing trajectory on a world faith as it "might have become." The Gnostic Gospels provides engaging reading for those seeking a broader perspective on the early development of Christianity. --F. Hall
h2pogo
26-03-2012, 02:12 AM
This was one of the first conspiracy books i ever read..A long time ago
I only just found out what it was called..A very rare book...Banned in the US
There are only 2 new copies on Amazon and they are going for $382 or from $50 second hand
30years of drug smuggling, arms deals and covert operations that robbed America and betrayed the constitution...
The book which is a graphic novel was published in the 80s
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I think i put a link in this thread where it can be downloaded for free:cool:
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Small book (just 80 pages), big content - the wisdom of Ancient Greece.
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Everything Christian came from old Greek, then they spoil. All, all comes from Greek..
G. I. Gurdjieff
I found this little known photograph of G., throwing the "Hidden Hand" sign.
Was he one of Them? We may never know...
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I found this little known photograph of G., throwing the "Hidden Hand" sign.
Was he one of Them? We may never know...
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He was a freemason.Ouspensky as well.
Lord Kitchener and Stalin were both trained by Gurdjieff.
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Brilliant book.If you want to learn about occult symbolism then this book is for you.
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whatsinaname
03-04-2012, 09:23 PM
I've read a lot since I last posted, so i'll just list them.
Vaccines: This book could remove the fear of childhood illness by Trevor Gunn.
Ultimate time machine: Remote viewer's perception of time and predictions for the new Millenium. By Joseph McMoneagle.
Between life and death: Conversations with a spirit. By Dolores Cannon.
Music of Time by Preston Nichols and Peter Moon.
Dianetics: The modern science of mental health. by L.Ron Hubbard.
Scientology: A new slant on life. By L.Ron Hubbard.
Scientology: The fundamentals of thought. by L.Ron Hubbard.
Scientology: A history of man. by L.Ron Hubbard.
Montauk book of the dead. by Peter Moon.
The teachings of Don Juan:A Yaqui way of knowledge. by Carlos Castaneda.
A seperate reality: Further conversations with Don Juan. by Carlos Castaneda.
Journey to Ixtlan: Lessons of Don Juan. by Carlos Castaneda.
Theory of celestial influence. by Rodney Collin.
Montauk: The alien connection. by Stewart Swerdlow.
Montauk revisited: Adventures in synchronisity. by Preston B.Nichols and Peter Moon.
Earthing: The most important health discovery ever? by Clint Ober, et al.
Awakening your psychic powers: An Edgar Cayce guide. by Henry Reed PH,D.
My shit life so far. by Frankie Boyle.
As ever, I would recommend all of them for different reasons.
The Scientology books really opened up a new avenue of investigation. Needless to say, the rabbit hole goes very deep with that one.;)
Peter Moon, Preston Nichols and Stewart Swerdlow seem to be among the few who were witness to the Montauk Preject, and all that that entailed.
Which includes the Philladelphia Experiment, the Montauk project, time travel and time manipulation, the music business and its links to mind control,and on and on...The breadth of knowlegde between these guys could probably fill a thousand books!
Vaccines, by Tevor Gunn does exactly what it says on the cover. A very well put together and researched book.
Joseph McMoneagle's Time Machine is an interesting read, but I got the feeling that certain things were held back.
The last third of the book is full of predictions on finance, wars, health, politics and pretty much everything in between. All from doccumented remote viewing sessions looking right into the year 3000.
Dolores cannon's Conversations with a Spirit is accounts of regressed subjects regarding the death experience.
Pretty much every question is answered.
Earthing by Clint Ober is probably, as the title says: The most important health discovery ever!
The Theory of celestial influence by Rodney Collin is simply one of the best books i've ever read!
And Frankie Boyle's is simply a good laugh. He's a very switched on guy, though.
@whatsinaname
Earthing the most important disovery ever was a fantastic book.Got myself an earthpad, works like magic.Plus i walk barefoot when i get the chance.
About the book Montauk Connection by Swerdlow, is it similar to Blue Blood True Blood?
Theory of celestial influence. What is that about?
p.s. have you heard about the book Not In His Image by John Lash?
I hope a pdf version will pop out, no luck so far:(
indolering
03-04-2012, 10:23 PM
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You're a maniac, whats!:D
I wish I could read so well...if you keep this up, you'll soon be one of the world's most knowledgable people.:D
Seriously, thanks for the recommendations. Think I'll skip L.Ron, though.
The Don Juan books were all the rage when they came out around 1970...
I'm still plodding through The Montauk Project and DI's new book.
whatsinaname
03-04-2012, 10:33 PM
@whatsinaname
Earthing the most important disovery ever was a fantastic book.Got myself an earthpad, works like magic.Plus i walk barefoot when i get the chance.
About the book Montauk Connection by Swerdlow, is it similar to Blue Blood True Blood?
Theory of celestial influence. What is that about?
p.s. have you heard about the book Not In His Image by John Lash?
I hope a pdf version will pop out, no luck so far:(
I got an earthing sheet last week. Slept great and been full of energy ever since.
I've also been in pain with tennis elbow for the last few months, but on awakening, it's completely gone. It does return gradually during the day, but to me, that's just proof that the Earthing blanket works!
The Montaulk connection is a step-by-step guide through Stewart's life. His abductions,the experiments done on him, his time in jail and accounts of his meeting Preston Nichols, Peter Moon and Al Beilek.
I'd highly recommend the other books by Preston Nichols and Peter Moon. They really tie a few loose ends together.
The Theory of celestial influence was written by Rodney Collin, a student of Peter Ouspensky on the teachings of the Fourth way schools.
This review sums it up.
"An exploration of the universe and man's place in it. Rodney Collin examines 20th-century scientific discoveries and traditional esoteric teachings and concludes that the driving force behind everything is neither procreation nor survival, but expansion of awareness. Collin sets out to reconcile the considerable contradictions of the rational and imaginative minds and of the ways we see the external world versus our inner selves."
It really gets the immagination going.
I've not heard of Not in his image,but have just read a couple of reviews.
Sounds intriguing.
whatsinaname
03-04-2012, 10:48 PM
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You're a maniac, whats!:D
I wish I could read so well...if you keep this up, you'll soon be one of the world's most knowledgable people.:D
Seriously, thanks for the recommendations. Think I'll skip L.Ron, though.
The Don Juan books were all the rage when they came out around 1970...
I'm still plodding through The Montauk Project and DI's new book.
Why skip L.Ron?
There's some serious information in there. Anyone who gets shut down by the IRS and hounded by the CIA obviously has some information which someone doesn't want us to know about.;)
In fact, Peter Moon's book: The Montauk book of the dead.(another I read recently) has lots of inside information about Hubbard. Moon was a Scientologist for years, and knew him personally, to a degree.
The best bit is; because of all the black PR surrounding Hubbard and Scientology, the books can be picked up on Amazon( brand new hardbacks in most cases) for practically the price of the postage alone!:D
I forgot about Icke's new one. I've read that recently, too.:D
Why skip L.Ron?
There's some serious information in there. Anyone who gets shut down by the IRS and hounded by the CIA obviously has some information which someone doesn't want us to know about.;)
In fact, Peter Moon's book: The Montauk book of the dead.(another I read recently) has lots of inside information about Hubbard. Moon was a Scientologist for years, and knew him personally, to a degree.
The best bit is; because of all the black PR surrounding Hubbard and Scientology, the books can be picked up on Amazon( brand new hardbacks in most cases) for practically the price of the postage alone!:D
I forgot about Icke's new one. I've read that recently, too.:D
Most members on here are dissapointed with Icke's new book.What are your thoughts? Any interesting info or is it just recycling of the old material?
whatsinaname
03-04-2012, 11:45 PM
Most members on here are dissapointed with Icke's new book.What are your thoughts? Any interesting info or is it just recycling of the old material?
No, not dissapointed, really.
I must admit, I skipped a few bits of info, as it's background stuff about who's who and what's what etc.
Obviously I can see why the old material has to be included in each book.
His work is all about joining the dots, so it wouldn't make much sense if some of the dots were left out.
There is quite a lot of new and interesting material included, but overall, I didn't buy it to be wowed by some new discoveries. I bought it because I support what he does.
It's also another excellent introduction to anybody new to his work.
Personally,I think that's needed more than pleasing those who are familiar with him.
whatsinaname
05-04-2012, 11:39 PM
The Orgone accumulator Handbook by James DeMeo, ph.D
A concise description of everything to do with Orgone, as discovered by Willhelm Reich.
Starts with an explanation of what Orgone energy is, then Willhelm Reich's discovery of it.
Then his subsequent methods of harnessing it, with the use of the Orgone Accumulator.
I'll quote from the book regarding his persecution by the FDA:
"Following the years of smear articles and betrayals, and finally the FDA complaint before the courts, Reich refused to appear personally, to act, as he put it, "as a defendant in matters of basic natural scientific research". Instead, Reich wrote a compelling response (motion to dismiss) to the judge, wherein he recounted the history of unethical FDA abuses and lying journalistic smears. He also refused to grant authority to the courts regarding the validity of his Orgone research, making arguments from the viewpoint of a natural scientist. This prompted a harsh and punitive judicial ruling against Reich which is unique in American history, and which holds far greater significance for our constitutional protections than the better-known Scopes Monkey Trial where public school teaching of Darwin was temporarily forbidden in one small Tennesse town. The judge simply ignored Reich's written response, which in fact should have been accepted and acted upon as the legal document it was, leading to the next step in the defence proceedings. Instead, the judge ruled Reich had not responded at all, and thereby lost the case by technical default
The FDA was then granted all they wanted, in a Federal court Decree of Injunction which declared the Orgone energy "does not exist" and reclassified all books bearing the forbidden word "Orgone" as "advertising literature", forbidding their interstate transportation. This included books into which the taboo term appeared only in the preface, or introductary remarks.
Additionally, all publications discussing the orgone energy in detail were ordered destroyed, and the devices using the energy, dismantled or destroyed.
Case #1056, March 19, 1954, US District Court, Portland, Maine,
Judge John D.Clifford, jr.
"BANNED, until expunged of all references to the Orgone energy:
The Discovery of the Orgone
Vol, 1, The Function of the orgasm
Vol 2, The Cancer Biopathy
The Sexual Revolution
Ether, God and Devil
Cosmic Superimposition
Listen, Little Man.
The Mass Psychology of Facscism
Character Analysis
The Murder of Christ
People in Trouble
BANNED and ORDERED DESTROYED:
The Orgone energy Accululator:
Its scientific and mediacal use
The Oranur Experiment
The Orgone Energy Bulletin
The Orgone Emergency Bulletin
International Journal of Sex-Economy and Orgone Research
Internationale Zeitschrift fur Orgonomie
Annals of the Orgone Institute"
And so, in the late 1950s and early 1960s, Reich's books and research journals, even those which were "only" banned, were periodically seized by FDA agents and Federal Marshals, and sent for burning in Maine and New York incinerators. No scientific or professional organizations, nor journalist's, writer's or "civil liberties" unions publicly objected to the book burning, or acted to help Reich in any manner. His labratory headquarters were, as a final insult, invaded by FDA agents, who destoryed orgone accumulators with axes."
Dr.Reich was later hauled off to prison, where he died.
Nice eh?:rolleyes:
This pattern seems to have been repeated so many time thoughout history, until we're where we're at now.:mad:
The final parts of the book give detailed plans on how to build various Orgone accumulating devices, including:
2-ply Orgone blanket.
5-ply garden seed charger.
10-ply Orgone accumulator.
Orgone shooter funnel.
Orgone shooter tube, and a 3-ply human sized Orgone energy Accumulator.
Here's a PDF of the book.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=9&sqi=2&ved=0CHcQFjAI&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.themeasuringsystemofthegods.c om%2Forgon.pdf&ei=RA9-T8miMqO_0QXY9_SJDg&usg=AFQjCNGErUNuYEpl6vrTpRsA-dGwr7hGCw
corruptus in extremis
06-04-2012, 12:58 AM
Ordered the Illuminatus Trilogy and Fahrenheit 451 yesterday. I will get stuck into the Illuminatus Trilogy as soon as it gets here which will hopefully be here tomorrow.
indolering
06-04-2012, 02:40 AM
No, not dissapointed, really.
I must admit, I skipped a few bits of info, as it's background stuff about who's who and what's what etc.
Obviously I can see why the old material has to be included in each book.
His work is all about joining the dots, so it wouldn't make much sense if some of the dots were left out.
There is quite a lot of new and interesting material included, but overall, I didn't buy it to be wowed by some new discoveries. I bought it because I support what he does.
It's also another excellent introduction to anybody new to his work.
Personally,I think that's needed more than pleasing those who are familiar with him.
Great post. Agree completely.
The esoteric core of Christianity:
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/2606/restorednewtestament.jpg
For it is only through self-knowledge that real knowledge of external Nature can be gained. It is easy to show that the New Testament story, like all the ancient myths, rests on an astronomical basis; but to take this as a final solution of the mysteries of the solar cult is to reach a conclusion that is radically erroneous. For, in turn, the astronomical rendering is itself but an allegory of man's inner life, showing the relations or correspondences existing between the microkosm and the macrokosm. These correspondences are actual, not merely fanciful; and the moral meanings conveyed by the myths are only the superficial aspect of the psychic and spiritual realities underlying them.
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/7906/1827584l.jpg
The first book can be downloaded here:
http://archive.org/details/restorednewtest00prysgoog
The second can be downloaded here:
http://knowledgefiles.com/categories/esoteric/the-magical-message-according-to-ioannes-st-john-the-divine/
whatsinaname
09-04-2012, 04:26 PM
Listen, Little Man! by Willhelm Reich
"Listen, Little Man! is a great physician's qiet talk to each one of us, the average human being, the Little Man. Written in 1946 in answer to the gossip and defamation that plagued his remarkable career, it tells how Reich watched, at first naively, then with amazement, and finally with horror, at what the Little Man does to himself; how he suffers and rebels; how he esteems his enemies and murders his friends; how, wherever ge gains power as a "representitive of the people", he misuses this power and makes it crueler than the power it has supplanted.
Reich asks us to look honestly at ourselves and to assume responsibilty for our lives and for the great untapped potential that lies in the depth of human nature."
I can't recommend this book enough!
Everyone who reads it will, at least, see a little bit of themselves described.
They might not like it, but it's there.
Here's a link with a very good description , plus excerpt from the book....
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CEEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.listenlittleman.com%2F&ei=6_qCT5qXMaWf0QWfhOT6Bg&usg=AFQjCNHLQLNifqdy3pi1dAxW1KLUDZ4iLA
Here's the book in full:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CFAQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arvindguptatoys.com%2Farvindg upta%2Flistenlittleman.pdf&ei=R_-CT4_qDcTV8QPKye2TBg&usg=AFQjCNGmeE1ULsA4P-yKWzGnhrNLxPs-3w
Everyone on this forum should read this. In fact; everyone, fullstop, should read this.;)
unicorny
09-04-2012, 04:32 PM
Listen, Little Man! by Willhelm Reich
"Listen, Little Man! is a great physician's qiet talk to each one of us, the average human being, the Little Man. Written in 1946 in answer to the gossip and defamation that plagued his remarkable career, it tells how Reich watched, at first naively, then with amazement, and finally with horror, at what the Little Man does to himself; how he suffers and rebels; how he esteems his enemies and murders his friends; how, wherever ge gains power as a "representitive of the people", he misuses this power and makes it crueler than the power it has supplanted.
Reich asks us to look honestly at ourselves and to assume responsibilty for our lives and for the great untapped potential that lies in the depth of human nature."
I can't recommend this book enough!
Everyone who reads it will, at least, see a little bit of themselves described.
They might not like it, but it's there.
Here's a link with a very good description , plus excerpt from the book....
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&sqi=2&ved=0CEEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.listenlittleman.com%2F&ei=6_qCT5qXMaWf0QWfhOT6Bg&usg=AFQjCNHLQLNifqdy3pi1dAxW1KLUDZ4iLA
Here's the book in full:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=7&sqi=2&ved=0CFAQFjAG&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arvindguptatoys.com%2Farvindg upta%2Flistenlittleman.pdf&ei=R_-CT4_qDcTV8QPKye2TBg&usg=AFQjCNGmeE1ULsA4P-yKWzGnhrNLxPs-3w
Everyone on this forum should read this. In fact; everyone, fullstop, should read this.;)
sounds good!
I'll put it on the ever expanding list :)
whatsinaname
09-04-2012, 04:54 PM
Encounter in the Pleiades: An inside look at UFOs by Preston Nichols and Peter Moon.
Another fascinating volume from Nichols and Moon. Preston gives detailed accounts of his childhood abductions, which alien species he encountered and how thier crafts function.
"Based upon my first hand observations and the theories generated by our group, there has to be some sort of technical reality engineering system in it. What do I mean by reality engineering? Exactly that. I'm referring to the concept of building or creating a reality. If reality is defined as an agreed upon system of perception and interaction that conforms to certain rules, reality engineering refers to changing that system. Or, more importantly, it refers to creating a different system that can interface with the original system or reality."
Other chapters include descriptions of UFO encounters, aboard a UFO, A review of physics, The History of Einstein, The speed of light, Contact, the Pleiades, Alien confederations, Abductions, Implants: detecting and clearing them.
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&sqi=2&ved=0CDsQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fgalactic.no%2Frune%2Fprestnic1.ht ml&ei=1P-CT7L4NKGu0QWur-SWBw&usg=AFQjCNGBdVXca-cLBm0BolUdZLgWY5FRjg
whatsinaname
09-04-2012, 04:58 PM
sounds good!
I'll put it on the ever expanding list :)
Makes sure it's near the top of the pile.;)
Seriously though, it's only a short book (around 120 pages, some of which are illustrations), so should just be one short sitting.
Easy enough to read on the link I gave.:)
unicorny
09-04-2012, 05:02 PM
Makes sure it's near the top of the pile.;)
Seriously though, it's only a short book (around 120 pages, some of which are illustrations), so should just be one short sitting.
Easy enough to read on the link I gave.:)
i struggle reading online my eyes go wonky after a bit :eek::rolleyes:, but have just got a kindle so will put it on that and hopefully it will read ok on it
edward13
11-04-2012, 11:42 PM
An ebook thriller that's not only a great read, but also thought provoking.
Should be available from all online retailers (where you can read opening chapters) for all ebook reader devices, including PC/Laptop.
Find quickly by Googling title & author.
tenzingnorgay
22-04-2012, 07:08 PM
Why skip L.Ron?
There's some serious information in there. Anyone who gets shut down by the IRS and hounded by the CIA obviously has some information which someone doesn't want us to know about.;)
D
Skip L. Ron because his "factual" books are just as fictitious as his fiction and he's not a very good writer anyway.
Some people get hounded by the IRS because they commit crimes. None of the material in any of L. Ron's books has been shut down by the IRS or any other government agency so clearly that was not their motivation. The only ones hiding stuff about scientology are the scientologists.
tenzingnorgay
22-04-2012, 07:17 PM
Anthony Bourdain - The Nasty bits
Adam Carolla - In Fifty Years We'll All Be Chicks
Carol Deppe - The Resilient Gardener
Gregory Sams - Sun of God
Burke and Halberg - Seed of Knowledge Stone of Plenty
Kenny Ausubel - When Healing Becomes a Crime
Strudwick - Thebes in Egypt
whatsinaname
23-04-2012, 06:26 PM
Skip L. Ron because his "factual" books are just as fictitious as his fiction and he's not a very good writer anyway.
Some people get hounded by the IRS because they commit crimes. None of the material in any of L. Ron's books has been shut down by the IRS or any other government agency so clearly that was not their motivation. The only ones hiding stuff about scientology are the scientologists.
I've been reading his books regarding Scientology up until now, but have just finished reading one of his "fiction" books called FEAR. To say he was "not a very good writer" is a vast understatement.
Yes, people do get hounded by the IRS for commiting crimes, but if you look at the bigger picture, it's pretty obvious (well, to me at least) that it clearly was their motivation.
Cybersurf has made a good thread explaning the situation:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=206745
Whatever anyone's views on Hubbard or Scientology, it's always best to get an overview of the whole affair. That can only be done by reading the actual books written by the man himself.
If anyone would care to take the time to read about just the Dianetics angle, they'd see what he was actually trying to achieve. They'd also see why that made him such a target.
I assume people on the DI site are looking for the truth about things. That cannot be achieved through avoiding people who the establishment have labeled madmen.
In fact, anyone labeled a madman, lunatic, con man, evil, liar, or anything of the like, is definitely someone who needs further investigation.
After all, haven't all those labels been thrown at David Icke at some point!
indolering
23-04-2012, 09:47 PM
I've been reading his books regarding Scientology up until now, but have just finished reading one of his "fiction" books called FEAR. To say he was "not a very good writer" is a vast understatement.
Yes, people do get hounded by the IRS for commiting crimes, but if you look at the bigger picture, it's pretty obvious (well, to me at least) that it clearly was their motivation.
Cybersurf has made a good thread explaning the situation:
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=206745
Whatever anyone's views on Hubbard or Scientology, it's always best to get an overview of the whole affair. That can only be done by reading the actual books written by the man himself.
If anyone would care to take the time to read about just the Dianetics angle, they'd see what he was actually trying to achieve. They'd also see why that made him such a target.
I assume people on the DI site are looking for the truth about things. That cannot be achieved through avoiding people who the establishment have labeled madmen.
In fact, anyone labeled a madman, lunatic, con man, evil, liar, or anything of the like, is definitely someone who needs further investigation.
After all, haven't all those labels been thrown at David Icke at some point!
Your points are well taken. However, it's not just the establishment who have harassed him - his association with Parsons and the OTO, his cockamamie 'religion', the heavy-handed hierarchy, and the absurd amounts of money charged for services all mitigate against the man. If I were truly interested in his ideas, I would read his stuff - but he's low on my priority list and time grows short for us all....
whatsinaname
23-04-2012, 10:21 PM
Your points are well taken. However, it's not just the establishment who have harassed him - his association with Parsons and the OTO, his cockamamie 'religion', the heavy-handed hierarchy, and the absurd amounts of money charged for services all mitigate against the man. If I were truly interested in his ideas, I would read his stuff - but he's low on my priority list and time grows short for us all....
Hubbard, along with Parsons, the OTO, Crowley and The Babalon Working are all part of the "madmen" I was refering to.;)
I'm in no way saying they were all 'good guys', but their over-all motivation seemed to be to rid the world of the controlling factors, to some degree or other.
Peter Moon's books are good for a succinct and unbiased evaluation of how they're all linked together.
For instance: Remote Viewing was originally a Scientology technique known as 'Exteriorization'. That never seems to be mentioned by anyone!
indolering
23-04-2012, 11:08 PM
Hubbard, along with Parsons, the OTO, Crowley and The Babalon Working are all part of the "madmen" I was refering to.;)
I'm in no way saying they were all 'good guys', but their over-all motivation seemed to be to rid the world of the controlling factors, to some degree or other.
Peter Moon's books are good for a succinct and unbiased evaluation of how they're all linked together.
For instance: Remote Viewing was originally a Scientology technique known as 'Exteriorization'. That never seems to be mentioned by anyone!
Interesting.... And the lesson, I suppose, is that we should not judge others before a proper investigation.
I appreciate your level-headedness. Keep up the good work.:)
whatsinaname
24-04-2012, 12:26 AM
Interesting.... And the lesson, I suppose, is that we should not judge others before a proper investigation.
I appreciate your level-headedness. Keep up the good work.:)
Thanks.:)
Anyway, onto the books, I suppose.
The Source Field Investgations by David Wilcock.
This book is a masterpiece!
Very well written, researched and presented.
I wonder if all those who criticise him have taken the time to read it...:rolleyes:
Next:
Pyramids of Montauk: Explorations in conciousness. by Preston B.Nichols and Peter Moon.
Pyramids of Montauk unveils the mysteries of Montauk point and its select location for pyramids and time travel experimentation. An astonishing sequel to the Montauk Project and Montaulk revisited, this chapter of the legend awakens the conciousness of humanity to its ancient history and origins through the discovery of pyramids at Montauk. Their placement on sacred native American ground opens the door to an unprecedented investigation of the mystery schools of Earth and thei connection to Egypt, Atlantis, Mars and the star Sirius.
Preston Nichols continues to fascinate with an update on covert operations at Montauk that includes the discovery of a nuclear particle accelerator on the Montaul base and the development of new psychotronic weapons.
Pyramids of Montauk propels us far beyond the adventures of the first two books and stirs the quest for future reality and the end of time as we know it.
10/10 from me again.
The Black Sun: Montauk's Nazi-Tibetan conection. by Peter Moon.
The Black Sun is an adventure in conciousness that reveals a vast array of new information. From the German flying saucer program to the SS mission into Tibet, we are led on a path that gives us the most insightful look into the Third Reich and the holy relics they sought in their ultimate quest: The Ark of the Covenant and the Holy Grail.
Going beyond the Spear of Destiny and other attempts to unlock the mysterious occultism of the Nazis, Peter Moon peers into the lab of the ancient alchemists and their white powdered gold in order to explain the secret meaning behind the Egyptian and Tibetan "Books of the Dead".
10/10 again.
Sychronicity and the Seventh Seal. by Peter Moon.
Synchronicity and the Seventh Seal is a true life adventure where the crossroads of parallel universes meet to reveal the core formula of reality. Told against the backdrop of King Solomon's underground catacombs, this book explores the pathway to the Unified Field through the principle of synchronicity. In 1990, when Peter Moon encountered Preston Nichols and opened the door to the public investigation of the Montauk Project, he began to experience odd synchronicities that were far beyond the range of what could be considered ordinary coincidences. In the midst of writing and editing books, Peter found that these synchronicities accelerated at a far greater rate than he could easily chronicle and put into book form. Only now, after a dozen years is he beginning to catch up and publish the first instalment which is entitled SYNCHRONICITY AND THE SEVENTH SEAL, Peter's first solo authored book since THE BLACK SUN in 1997. This new book begins with a historical and scientific look at synchronicity before leading into a recapitulation and new perspective on the many synchronicities that are now part of the Montauk legend. After revealing the paranormal prelude that led him to the Montauk Project, which includes the origins of the Remote Viewing phenomena, Peter gives a riveting account of and a totally new perspective to the Babalon Working which was revealed to him as a result of his adventures with Marjorie Cameron, the wife of Jack Parsons who was the vehicle used to precipitate the return of the Goddess. SYNCHRONICITY AND THE SEVENTH SEAL reveals new mysteries about the Babalon Working and how his study of it led to further synchronicity, including a unique penetration of the work of John Dee and Edward Talbot Kelly, two magicians who inspired the Babalon Working and also dictated the future course of Western Civilization under the sponsorship of Queen Elizabeth I. Ultimately, this path of synchronicity leads to the revelation of the Seventh Seal itself. It is not what you think, but you will not be disappointed, and you will learn the greatest secret by which the multitudes have been duped since the beginning of the Christian Era.
Once again...10/10.
Peter Moon really is, in my opinion, one of the most thorough researchers i've come across.
He can "join the dots" beautifully.
FEAR by L.Ron Hubbard
Profesor James Lowry didn't believe in spirits or witches or demons. Not until a gentle spring evening when his hat dissapeared, and suddenly he couldn't remember the last four hours of his life. Now the quiet university town of Atworthy is changing, slightly at first, then faster and more frighteningly each time he tries to remember. Lowry is pursued by a dark secret evil that is turning his whole world against him while it whispers a warning from the shadows: "if you find your hat you'll find your four hours. If you find your four hours then you will die..."
A bit of a departure into some light reading ( well nearly) for me.
Very enjoyable though.
Stephen King had this to say: "If you're not averse to a case of the cold chills - a rather bad one - and you've never read FEAR, I urge you to do so.
Don't even wait for a dark and stormy night. This is one of the really, really good ones"
"Brandwashed" by Martin Lindstrom,
explains in detail how the marketing- apparatus works.
Bill Hicks was right to tell the marketers to simply kill themselves...
whatsinaname
25-04-2012, 07:47 PM
Hubbard, along with Parsons, the OTO, Crowley and The Babalon Working are all part of the "madmen" I was refering to.;)
I'm in no way saying they were all 'good guys', but their over-all motivation seemed to be to rid the world of the controlling factors, to some degree or other.
Peter Moon's books are good for a succinct and unbiased evaluation of how they're all linked together.
For instance: Remote Viewing was originally a Scientology technique known as 'Exteriorization'. That never seems to be mentioned by anyone!
Just thought i'd add to this post by quoting from Synchronicity and the seventh seal by Peter moon.
"Most, if not all, of the original development of Remote Viewing in the Government has been attributed to Ingo Swann. While this is not completely correct, his influence was very large.
Others have even sought to rip-off or run with their own versions and have even obscured his contributions to this field. What is even more obscure is that Ingo only demonstrated these abilities on a large scale after he had reached the highest levels of Scientology in the late 1960's. In fact, his legendary work was accomplished with two high level Scientologists known as Hal Puthoff and Pat Price.
What is particularly noteworthy about this aspect of the Scientology connection is that when a Congessional commitee issued their final report uncovering past scandals of CIA mind control experiments, including MK-ULTRA, BLUEBIRD and ARTICHOKE, there was no mention whatsoever of the remote viewing projects.
Even more notably absent were the names of the key personnel and the fact that they were full level Scientologists who had intelligence agency backgrounds and were using the Scientology techniques in their research.
I can say without any hint of exaggeration that the entire subject of remote viewing is a shard or offshoot of a phenomena which L.Ron Hubbard and Scientology describe as Exteriorization. Exteriorization refers to independent perception without reference to the normal perceptic channels of the human body. In other words, you can see, feel, hear, touch and perceive everything the body can perceive completely independently and irrespective of the body. You never, never, never hear the word exteriorization in New Age, psychotronics or mainstream versions of the subject."
After having people try to get in contact with Ingo Swann regarding any information he may have on the Montauk Project, they were met with him going blank, or just not responding when Montauk was mentioned. The author had this to say:
"Although Ingo is a brilliant man and a successfully proven psychic, his actions have lead me to conclude that he either worked for the Government from day one, or that he was tampered with.
His talk about heterosexual experience was prior to Scientology.
It is entirely possible that, after achieving a potent state of conciousness, he was taken in and conditioned to respond in certain ways to certain subject.
In his writings, Ingo claims to have joined the intelligence community when he realised that all millitary failures are basically intelligence failures.
He sought to help the Government ward off the Soviet menace. This is a very suspect view for someone who indulged in Scientology or the teachings of Hubbard. Hubbard himself believed that all wars were created by cartels who would profit from them, either by money or control. In any case, Ingo was viewing the Cold War as a real event and "patriotically" chose sides.
He ended up working for the same people who would conduct an unprecedented raid on the Church of Scientology and end up convicting some of its higher officers.
What was all the fuss about? Were the Scientolgy techniques really all that powerful?"
indolering
26-04-2012, 12:13 AM
Thanks for that, whats. Very interesting indeed. I knew that some intelligent people were intrigued by Scientology but it all seemed just too wak to be true or even useful. But now I too am intrigued, not to join but to read the history of a few of these persons involved.
I put Moon's book on my list...:cool:
whatsinaname
27-04-2012, 04:58 PM
Thanks for that, whats. Very interesting indeed. I knew that some intelligent people were intrigued by Scientology but it all seemed just too wak to be true or even useful. But now I too am intrigued, not to join but to read the history of a few of these persons involved.
I put Moon's book on my list...:cool:
You're very welcome.:)
Here's an interesting interview with Peter Moon.
PETER MOON - The Mystery Of Egypt - The First Tunnel - YouTube
John Lash & Thomas Sheridan: Handling the Psychopath & Human Predators P2
ARCHONS!!
4/26/12 John Lash & Thomas Sheridan: Handling the Psychopath & Human Predators P2 Grok Talk - YouTube!
goldsmith wrote the book in 1961. he died in the mid 60's. and i share this quote because imho it is more relevent than ever. to me it summarizes and encapsulates what was presented in d.i's "one great spirit" video:
We are approaching a period in the world in which evil will find no room for expression in people, thoughts, and things. It wil be crowded right off the earth, because the earth will be so full of the knowledge of this principle of one power (i.e. non-dual Consciousness) that "evil" will have no channel through which to function. It will be lopped off as fast as it shows its head by this invisible spiritual power that permeates Consciousness. p.87
goldsmith goes into great detail about "the carnal mind", the belief in two powers, the knowledge of "good" and "evil". and to me its much more than negation/ neti neti neti.
just clear out the garbage and live as unconditioned mind. tall order? yes. and it is a living Reality for me.
here's a thoughtful article on goldsmith with reference to nuerotheology:
...
Joel S. Goldsmith
Brain Science & the Biology of Belief, by Newberg and D’Aquili, in addition to providing an accessible introduction to neurotheology, is intriguing simply because of the occasional spiritual insights that emerge rather spontaneously in the conclusions of two scientists. One striking spiritual revelation can be found at the end of the chapter entitled “Realer than Real.”
The wisdom of the mystics, it seems, has predicted for centuries what neurotheology now shows to be true: In Absolute Unitary Being, self blends into other; mind and matter are one and the same.(18)
No one in the genre of American metaphysical religion has expressed the unity of mind and matter more clearly, more practically, and often poetically than Joel Goldsmith. From the perspective of neurotheology, he was able to move beyond the recurring dualism in Christian Science because, through rigorous meditation, he was able to retrain the brain/mind processes and open up his consciousness to absolute unitary being.(19) ...
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as soon as we make the decision that we are going to walk the way that leads to spiritual fulfillment, we have begun the necessary transformation of mind; we have begun our spiritual journey…No one of himself has the power to receive God’s grace. Grace comes through an evolutionary progressive unfoldment of consciousness.(21)
Evolutionary progressive unfoldment of consciousness is Goldsmith’s way of describing the change in consciousness that marks the journey out of the dualism inherent in the ego matrix and into unitive certainty; or the journey from stage two to stage three in the spiritual process. Through meditation, the binary and causal operators no longer run the biochemical program that supports an impenetrable wall between ego and All. In The Art of Meditation, he describes this change in consciousness,
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[B]In spiritual wisdom there are no pairs of opposites. God is, and, therefore, there is no concern as to whether or not we can reach God, because there is nothing for which we need to reach God: the day is already beautiful; the fruit is already on the trees; the flowers are already blooming; the tides are flowing; the sun and the moon and the stars are in the heavens; harmony is.(23)...
All through the ages, duality has separated us from our good, but it is a sense of duality, not duality, because there is no duality. The secret of life is oneness, and oneness is not something that we bring about. Oneness is a state of being…There is not God and you or I, there is only God expressed, manifested as individual being. There is only one life – the Father’s. We are outside of heaven with no hope of ever gaining entrance to it as long as we believe that we have a selfhood apart from God, a being separate and independent of God.(24)
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When the realization of the omnipresence of God is attained, there is freedom from worry, fear, lack, and limitation. If a need appears, we retire within and tabernacle with this Presence, and in due time, It will appear outwardly as the very form necessary to our experience.
As we come to this place in consciousness where we are able to relinquish human might and power, human opinion and judgment, a divine Grace, invisible, yet perfectly tangible to the person experiencing it, takes over.(25)....
http://wudhi.com/mysticism/jsg/simmons.htm
goldsmith is not hung up on the "g" word either. he makes it clear g_d is another term for the I AM PRESENCE.
enjoy. :)
This little book delivers exactly what the subtitle promises.
I take my hat off to M. P. Hall.
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tinyint
12-05-2012, 02:50 AM
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camreeno
14-05-2012, 07:24 AM
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I was reading this bit by bit over the course of (mainly) a month. It's a long dense book at over 400 pages. An amazing book that is all in the title.
One Law I found particularly interesting was the one about resisting friends and using enemies. It says that we secretly envy and compare ourselves with our friends, but if we work with our enemies, this is advantagious because they will be more motivated to work for you in order to lower your suspicion of them. I know David Icke calls enemies a construct of the mind, but it is nonetheless interesting.
It's not a guide for sadists and creeps who want to take over the world, but rather it is a book that documents the reality of how people become powerful. You can take it that way, but to me it's just a fascinating journey through human psychology.
mrfrisky330
15-05-2012, 09:37 PM
"I, Partridge we need to talk about Alan"
Laughed so much during the first chapter it took me half an hour to finish one page.
whatsinaname
15-05-2012, 10:19 PM
The Left Hand Path by Tapio Kotkavauri
The Queen's Conjuror: The life and Magic of Dr Dee. By Benjamin Woolet
Ong's Hat: The beginning. by Joseph Matheny and Peter Moon.
The secrets of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Riddles of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Wrath of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Philadephia Experiment Murder. By Alexandra Bruce and Peter Moon.
Wilhelm Reich in Hell. By Robert Anton Wilson.
2012: Science or Superstition. By Alexandra Bruce.
Sex and Rockets: The Occult world of Jack Parsons. By John Carter.
indolering
16-05-2012, 01:45 AM
The Left Hand Path by Tapio Kotkavauri
The Queen's Conjuror: The life and Magic of Dr Dee. By Benjamin Woolet
Ong's Hat: The beginning. by Joseph Matheny and Peter Moon.
The secrets of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Riddles of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Wrath of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Philadephia Experiment Murder. By Alexandra Bruce and Peter Moon.
Wilhelm Reich in Hell. By Robert Anton Wilson.
2012: Science or Superstition. By Alexandra Bruce.
Sex and Rockets: The Occult world of Jack Parsons. By John Carter.
Some interesting titles...did you like Sex and Rockets? Sounds like it should have some significant history to it.
Who was murdered in the Philadelphia Experiment (besides a bunch of sailors and techs on board)?
heartbeatsalute
16-05-2012, 02:02 AM
The Left Hand Path by Tapio Kotkavauri
The Queen's Conjuror: The life and Magic of Dr Dee. By Benjamin Woolet
Ong's Hat: The beginning. by Joseph Matheny and Peter Moon.
The secrets of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Riddles of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Wrath of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Philadephia Experiment Murder. By Alexandra Bruce and Peter Moon.
Wilhelm Reich in Hell. By Robert Anton Wilson.
2012: Science or Superstition. By Alexandra Bruce.
Sex and Rockets: The Occult world of Jack Parsons. By John Carter.
Good titles!
Would be interesting if you wrote a line of what each book is about, whatsinaname.
whatsinaname
16-05-2012, 02:05 PM
Goo9d titles!
Would be interesting if you wrote a line of what each book is about, whatisinaname.
Will write my thoughts on them when I get time.:)
whatsinaname
16-05-2012, 02:09 PM
Some interesting titles...did you like Sex and Rockets? Sounds like it should have some significant history to it.
Who was murdered in the Philadelphia Experiment (besides a bunch of sailors and techs on board)?
Yeah, it was very interesting to get another perspective.
The murder part is referring to Phil Schneider. He knew a lot of details about it.
whatsinaname
17-05-2012, 08:12 PM
The Left Hand Path by Tapio Kotkavauri
The Queen's Conjuror: The life and Magic of Dr Dee. By Benjamin Woolet
Ong's Hat: The beginning. by Joseph Matheny and Peter Moon.
The secrets of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Riddles of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Wrath of Aleister Crowley. By Amado Crowley.
The Philadephia Experiment Murder. By Alexandra Bruce and Peter Moon.
Wilhelm Reich in Hell. By Robert Anton Wilson.
2012: Science or Superstition. By Alexandra Bruce.
Sex and Rockets: The Occult world of Jack Parsons. By John Carter.
The Left Hand Path
After giving a broad definition of the Right and Left hand Paths, the author says: " Considering the above defintions, every individual is of course a unique combination of both paths, collective and individual, natural and non-natural. From our point of view, though, what matters here is where the emphasis of one's intention and active approach to existence is placed.
Based on this emphasis then, we can say that an individual is on the left or right hand path.
The right hand path is not just natural growth into adulthood as a member of one's society. It also about intentionally using the right hand path in its many forms to signify an adult human life.
This includes signifying, developing and experiencing various things in one's life, as defined before. From the left hand path's point of view the right hand path seems to be way too innacurate in it "resolution" and perspective in answering the profound questions of existence.
Whilst the right hand path projects the power of self-consciousness outside of oneself to various gods, goddesses and other such authorities, the left hand path perspective is that one needs to recognize that self-consciousness as the ultimate source of ones' meaningful life.
The left hand path point is that this core of existence is to be practiced and developed, not to subordinate to any authority outside of oneself, real or imagined"
Sounds about right to me.:)
The Queen's Conjuor:
I'll just post this rather good review on Amazon.
"Benjamin Woolley's 'The Queen's Conjurer' is the most recent attempt to present the life of the English Enigma, Dr. John Dee. Dee is an interesting character and one that has sadly been much maligned over the centuries. Since his death in 1608, he has largely been dismissed at best as an sorcerer and black magicican and, at worst, as a credulous old fool dabbling in astrology and necromancy. Today, despite his prominent historical role in Elizabethan politics and his great contibutions to many fields, he is hardly remembered at all. This book tries to alleviate that problem.
Wolley's work is well-researched and attempts to shed light on Dee's life and his many accomplishments as not only an occultist, but also as an astronomer, mathematician, explorer, and spy. Dee was a product of the Renaissance and devoured knowledge and information. He was an avid bibliophile, a voracious author of various works on astronomy, astrology, mathematics, occult philosophy, and was well-respected by many prominent people at the court of Queen Elizabeth. The Queen herself counted herself one of Dee's benefactors and visited him numerous times at his home at Mortlake, taking a genuine interest in his many magical and mathematical works. Today he is largely remembered for his works concerning "Enochian" or Angel Magic, due to the fact that these are the bulk of his writings that have survived the flames of history. Most of the second half of this book is concerned with Dee's European adventures with the mysterious scryer Edward Kelly, who is largely regarded by history as a charlatan and a rake. Kelly is a shadowy and intriguing figure and we get some insight into his character and motivations but he is never truly revealed to us, perhaps he never will be. In the end, Dee finds that despite a lifetime of great works and accomplishments, he is viewed with mistrust and suspicion by the general public and has lost favor with the new court of King James I. He dies a tired and broken man, and history would continue to tarnish his great name until well into the 20th century.
The Queen's Conjurer is a very readable account of a great and fascinating man."
Ong's Hat: The beginning:
Once again, i'll post a review:
"Since before the continents assumed their present shape, countless ages before intelligent proto-hominids walked erect and began using sticks to scratch signs in the mud, immeasurable aeons before alphabets and settled agriculture were new-fangled, Ong's Hat - a now deserted (?) village in southernmost New Jersey - was fated to become the most important locale in humankind's history, a critical juncture in time and space, and the nexus of a vast, uncountable quanta of probability matrices joining at the confluence of those temporal streams called past, present and future.
Since the event referred to as the "Opening of the Gate" occurred at Ong's Hat some thirty-three years ago on a spring equinox, much of the paltry amount of writing on that cosmic shifting of gears has been of an intendedly "disinformational" character for reasons apparent to all serious students of alternative history in general and OH in particular. The time has arrived when the truth can be told, neat and naked, complete and uncensored. And that story is, to put it mildly, a circuitous one.
In brief, a black Sufi cult founded in Newark, New Jersey in the 1920s by a circus magician has (with the help of a small group of Columbia University students, jazz musicians, beatniks, homosexuals and LSD experimenters) evolved by the late 1960's into a techno-tantric Moorish Orthodox commune and physics research institute centered in Ong's Hat, New Jersey, whose members managed to escape from this addled dirt-ball into a parallel universe through the intermediary of the "Egg" - a mechanism that enabled trans-dimensional travel into other worlds in other dimensions.
Add to the story a benevolent race of red-necked humanoids descended from Javanese lemurs on a parallel Earth, chaos magick, alternative sexualities, applied quantum physics, conspiracies galore, and heretical Eastern Orthodox bishops and you have an epistemological smorgasbord fit for a king.
This is a delightful piece of writing that leaves its reader hungry for more (and we are assured there will be more), that deserves to be read and read again, believed or disbelieved, shared with someone you love, and maybe even memorized!"
The Secrets, riddles and wrath of Aleister Crowley, are the first three books from Amado Crowley, who claims( or claimed, as he's now dead) to be the illigitimate son of Aleister Crowley.
By his own admission, he was a powerful magician himself. More powerful than his dad, by all accounts!
I couldn't really say with any certainty whether that's true or not, but if he wasn't, he certainly put on a good front!
After reading the books, I get the impression that he was...
There's so much detail in these books; which up until their writing, would have been unkown about Crowley himself.
He certainly had a good sense of humour, and a nice healthy dose of sarcasm.
Of course he did; he was a Yorkshireman.;)
His website, for anyone interested:
http://amado-crowley-777.org.uk/specialpowers.html#top
The Philadelphia Murder:
This was apparently Alexandra Bruce's first book.
Although the title suggests it'll be all centred around the Philadelphia Experiment, in reality, only the first few chapters are; and they mainly look into the strange circumstances surrounding the death of Phil Shneider.
The rest of the book goes delving into other stuff, including:
Quantum realities, the New World Order, Atlantis, the Reptoids...
Some of the time, Bruce writes from a sceptical point of view (which is fair enough), but, on the whole, she does manage to get the infomation across in a fair way.
There's the occasional bit of piss taking, but we've all done it/do it at some point, haven't we/do we?
Here's an online version:
http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CFUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.checktheevidence.com%2FDisclo sure%2FPDF%2520Documents%2FPhil%2520Schneider.pdf&ei=kjm1T8hY6NLRBZzL4OAP&usg=AFQjCNEPhICham9N9LV_2r24d2V0Qutd-A
Wilhelm Reich in Hell:
The great psychiatrist Wilhelm Reich once wrote, "No President, Academy, Court of Law, Congress or Senate on this earth has the knowledge or power to decide what will be the knowledge of tomorrow." In 1957, the government of the United States of America jailed Dr. Reich and burned all of his published works. Wilhelm Reich in Hell provides a remarkable new look at the vilification and destruction of a great man who refused to bow to Gestapo tactics.
The long introduction is fine display of RAW having a go at anything and everything. The rest of the book is the script for a musical play of the same name.
Here it is:
Wilhelm Reich in Hell - A Punk Rock Opera by Robert Anton Wilson - YouTube
2012: Science or Superstition
The second book I read from Alexandra Bruce. This is a very comprehensive look at all the angles associated with the 2012 phenomena.
All viewpoints are put forward and heard.
Here's a link the full documentary:
(it's a youtube link, but you have to use the link below the video because it has been removed)
2012 Science Or Superstition Part 1 of 8 Full Movie Online - HD - YouTube
Sex and Rockets: The occult world of Jack Parsons.
"Scientist, poet, and self-proclaimed Antichrist, Jack Parsons was a bizarre genius whose life reads like an implausible yet irresistible science fiction novel. Sex and Rockets looks at his short life and dual career as cofounder of Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) and leader of the Agape Lodge of Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis (OTO). Author John Carter scours primary documents and interviews surviving friends and contemporaries to deliver an intriguing portrait of a dreamy, driven man equally interested in rocketry and magick. From his early childhood and deep attachment to his mother (who killed herself hours after he died) through his nonacademic research and brilliant innovations in solid fuels to his mysterious 1952 demise in a garage-laboratory explosion at the age of 37, the reader gets the impression of a man whose obsession with explosives and propellants was nearly single-minded. Yet this same man found spiritual fulfillment through Crowley's Law of Thelema, conducted magickal operations with L. Ron Hubbard, and signed an oath asserting himself to be the Antichrist--clearly Parsons wasn't a boring guy in a white coat. Carter pulls off the difficult task of integrating Parsons's disparate drives into one compelling story; though there are some rough spots and awkward transitions, one gets the sense that this illuminates the man's life better than a smooth, flawless work would. Robert Anton Wilson's introduction is smart and funny as always, initiating the uninformed into the basics of Crowleyanity while placing Parsons in the context of his times. While it might not be possible to read universal themes into Parsons's life, Sex and Rockets is an excellent study of a passionate life fully lived"
All in all, a very informative, if sometimes over informative account of the man's life, his relationship with Crowley and Hubbard, and his apparent genius.
indolering
18-05-2012, 04:44 AM
Good reviews, thanks, whats, appreciate your efforts.:cool:
http://www.stephenwalker.com/content/uploads/2010/11/48-Laws-of-Power.jpg
One Law I found particularly interesting was the one about resisting friends and using enemies.
It says that we secretly envy and compare ourselves with our friends, but if we work with our enemies,
this is advantagious because they will be more motivated to work for you in order to lower
your suspicion of them. I know David Icke calls enemies a construct of the mind, but it is nonetheless interesting.
interesting work.
know thy "adversary".
remember mr. gold? imho he's "the Prince" ;)
Wilhelm Reich in Hell:
The great psychiatrist Wilhelm Reich once wrote, "No President, Academy, Court of Law, Congress or Senate on this earth has the knowledge or power to decide what will be the knowledge of tomorrow." In 1957, the government of the United States of America jailed Dr. Reich and burned all of his published works. Wilhelm Reich in Hell provides a remarkable new look at the vilification and destruction of a great man who refused to bow to Gestapo tactics.
The long introduction is fine display of RAW having a go at anything and everything. The rest of the book is the script for a musical play of the same name.
thanks for this gem. :)
whats in a name how many books have you read?:)
http://www.peterkingsley.org/p7ssm_img_2/fullsize/AStoryWaiting.jpg
here is an interview with the author:
Peter Kingsley: Complete Interview - YouTube
ozpixie
20-05-2012, 02:46 AM
Good reviews, thanks, whats, appreciate your efforts.:cool:
Yes, much appreciated here too! :)
ozpixie
20-05-2012, 02:49 AM
Just finished Unholy Alliance by Peter Levenda, dealing with the rise of the Third Reich, the who's who of it's occult connections, the role of the Vatican in providing escape for some of the officers and the Colonia Dignidad in Chile, where he was actually detained but then freed. A good read.
whatsinaname
20-05-2012, 06:06 PM
Good reviews, thanks, whats, appreciate your efforts.:cool:
You're welcome.:)
whatsinaname
20-05-2012, 06:09 PM
thanks for this gem. :)
You may also like this one, I posted about a few pages back.:)
Listen, little man. By Wilhelm Reich.
http://www.listenlittleman.com/
whatsinaname
20-05-2012, 06:13 PM
whats in a name how many books have you read?:)
Erm...quite a few.:D
In fact, it becomes quite confusing remembering a bit of information, but not which book it came from.:o
I'm going to have to start re-reading.:o
whatsinaname
20-05-2012, 06:29 PM
http://www.peterkingsley.org/p7ssm_img_2/fullsize/AStoryWaiting.jpg
here is an interview with the author:
Peter Kingsley: Complete Interview - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow-_G26lpOk)
That's a fascinating interview.
The book has been added to my list.:)
whatsinaname
20-05-2012, 06:30 PM
Yes, much appreciated here too! :)
I appreciate that it's appreciated.:cool:
You may also like this one, I posted about a few pages back.:)
Listen, little man. By Wilhelm Reich.
http://www.listenlittleman.com/
yes, definitely a pick to click.. love the illustrations!
http://hippielu.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/aliveexpression1.png