Wakey wakey

[kaiser]

I came here expectng to find the answer. A step by step guide on how to stop the madness going on. I suppose it really is down to all of us to make a choice, but how do sheep wake up when they think they are already awake?

Answers on a postcard please....

[daylenmichael]

I came here expectng to find the answer. A step by step guide on how to stop the madness going on. I suppose it really is down to all of us to make a choice, but how do sheep wake up when they think they are already awake?

Answers on a postcard please....

First off, define awake in your own words...
Second...answers on a postcard?! I guess I am to take that as be short and quick...okay here goes. Most people appreciate a comfortable lifestyle. The masses won't wake until they are given proof that the so called creature comforts of the world are actually making their life a living hell. Many times this proof is pain and suffering. In my short time on this Earth I have learned that most people choose to use suffering as a means to define their lives, especially when it has the guise of comfort. It is only when they pass the limits of the pain that they can stand that they will choose a different way. It also seems to me that people typically pay more attention to God/Love when they are going through immense suffering. Maybe that is part of the plan...

:D Daylen Michael :D

[kaiser]

Hi daylenmichael!

good question that, my definition of awake would be..

"A mental state of total awareness giving a person the facility to understand ones reality and thus having the knowledge and understanding to be able to make informed decisions correctly. But more importantly having the awareness of how ones reality interacts and flows with others and using that awareness to live in peace and not conflict"

I don't think the masses will awake, I fear the 5 sense reality is here to stay and the wolfs are sat on the edge of the woods waiting for the sun to set.

I understand what you are saying about peoples suffering stemming from there desire to have creature comforts, it seems to me your talking about a situation where the pursuit of comfort can never be satisfied. Rather like the pursuit of the things you most desire can never be fulfilled because as soon as you complete level 1, you see level 2 and you just gotta go! In my mind this is akin to greed, but I believe human greed is a strong manifestation of a human beings survival instinct. I hate to say it but in my view human desire and greed are part of the psyche and mind set of the creature that we all are. But after ive said all that, as human beings we have a rational in the mind that gives the power to stop and make a choice, we should all be asking ourselves, do I really need these luxuries. Willy Mason sings it brilliantly in his song Oxygen. "we can be better than industry, as long as we know there are things that we don't really need".

To answer your last question daylenmichael, I think when faced with immense suffering its the norm for any rational, self aware, thinking creature that has compassion and emotion and desire to turn to the things they love and need for help when faced with a major trauma in there life. Whether that loved, cherished thing is false or implanted, this is the biggy. I believe this turning in times of suffering is part of our mindset that may have been manipulated to inflict control on us. Whether by the church, the illuminati, the lizards, or the generally corrupt. I think this is what we need to wake up to, and broadcast. I think I understand now.

For the record I am not religious and follow no god. I believe in peace and most of the good values that most religions teach without all the God B#*@=+£s. God, divide and rule, thanks.

[notaslave]

I came here expectng to find the answer. A step by step guide on how to stop the madness going on. I suppose it really is down to all of us to make a choice, but how do sheep wake up when they think they are already awake?

Answers on a postcard please....

Keep the television off, better still get rid of it. Use the internet instead.

[jensen]

adampants2007 and 2008 on utube has some cool points on this awakening plz go see :)

[itsallinus]

I came here expectng to find the answer. A step by step guide on how to stop the madness going on. I suppose it really is down to all of us to make a choice, but how do sheep wake up when they think they are already awake?

Answers on a postcard please....

By thinking that you are awake and that others are asleep, you may also be just as asleep as them. One thing I am waking up to (finally) is that telling others about the nwo is only feeding the nwo and helping to bring it into reality. The only thing we should be waking up to is ourselves, looking for truth within. So far as I know there is less than a handful of people on this forum that are near to waking up and I am not at that stage yet either. The rabbit hole is only the entrance.

[jensen]

The rabbit hole is only the entrance. well said m8 cheers :)

[justin_pushka]

By thinking that you are awake and that others are asleep, you may also be just as asleep as them. One thing I am waking up to (finally) is that telling others about the nwo is only feeding the nwo and helping to bring it into reality. The only thing we should be waking up to is ourselves, looking for truth within. So far as I know there is less than a handful of people on this forum that are near to waking up and I am not at that stage yet either. The rabbit hole is only the entrance.

Spot on. There is nothing to fight. Fighting only fuels it and brings it into being. We can all see a patern emerging that we call the NWO. The best thing to do is ask why, the answer youll get is that we on mass gave our power away for comfort. The time is now to look inside change the self realise self responsability, be responsible, spread info to others so they can get the picture, suport others and never fear only work on the positive at all times. If you must think of the NWO laugh at ther petty efforts and realise that the masses verses the NWO is a duality were one can only exist if the oposite does. The only thing that will stop the NWO emerging as a tyrany is to stop the duality in each and everyone our selves. Saying yes but how do you get others to wake up doesnt cut it or achieve anything but more division. The secret to this whole drama is US OURSELVES and reclaiming CONTROL of our own selves so that others cannot play their part in controling us or preying on us. If you must feel or act like fighting then trying fighting with orgonite which is a defensive energy that is peaceful.

[itsallinus]

Spot on. There is nothing to fight. Fighting only fuels it and brings it into being. We can all see a patern emerging that we call the NWO. The best thing to do is ask why, the answer youll get is that we on mass gave our power away for comfort. The time is now to look inside change the self realise self responsability, be responsible, spread info to others so they can get the picture, suport others and never fear only work on the positive at all times. If you must think of the NWO laugh at ther petty efforts and realise that the masses verses the NWO is a duality were one can only exist if the oposite does. The only thing that will stop the NWO emerging as a tyrany is to stop the duality in each and everyone our selves. Saying yes but how do you get others to wake up doesnt cut it or achieve anything but more division. The secret to this whole drama is US OURSELVES and reclaiming CONTROL of our own selves so that others cannot play their part in controling us or preying on us. If you must feel or act like fighting then trying fighting with orgonite which is a defensive energy that is peaceful.

You just made my stomach flutter reading your post :) Well said and thank you!

[engelsblume]

By thinking that you are awake and that others are asleep, you may also be just as asleep as them. One thing I am waking up to (finally) is that telling others about the nwo is only feeding the nwo and helping to bring it into reality. The only thing we should be waking up to is ourselves, looking for truth within. So far as I know there is less than a handful of people on this forum that are near to waking up and I am not at that stage yet either. The rabbit hole is only the entrance

Exactly!



Spot on. There is nothing to fight. Fighting only fuels it and brings it into being. We can all see a patern emerging that we call the NWO. The best thing to do is ask why, the answer youll get is that we on mass gave our power away for comfort. The time is now to look inside change the self realise self responsability, be responsible, spread info to others so they can get the picture, suport others and never fear only work on the positive at all times. If you must think of the NWO laugh at ther petty efforts and realise that the masses verses the NWO is a duality were one can only exist if the oposite does. The only thing that will stop the NWO emerging as a tyrany is to stop the duality in each and everyone our selves. Saying yes but how do you get others to wake up doesnt cut it or achieve anything but more division. The secret to this whole drama is US OURSELVES and reclaiming CONTROL of our own selves so that others cannot play their part in controling us or preying on us. If you must feel or act like fighting then trying fighting with orgonite which is a defensive energy that is peaceful.

And again, exactly!

But I guess everyone starts with the " oh those stupid yucky reptiles ruining our lives, I'll show 'em!" I admit I started that way. And then somewhere along the line you realize what was said above in the quotes.

[azureangel]

Another great thread. DI did write a book, Infinite Love is the Only Truth - Everything Else is Illusion. Finally, as the vibration of the planet rises, we are invited to let our fears and old ways of living in the five-sense Matrix fall away. We are invited to create a reality of Love and connectedness. And we are going to wake up to our own abilities, to see and know 'way beyond what we've got now. It's going to be magical! It only takes a second to look at something in a different way and everything changes. When the current life view switches, we are in for a treat! Find something to love, and focus on that, let it spread out in ripples...it comes back around a thousandfold.
Love, angel :D

[fishonwheels]

Wonderful post everyone.

What does it mean really to be "waking up" as it's on everyone's lips these days.
Soon the phrase turns meaningless as everyone goes on repeating "love vs fear," "ego," "spiritual," "raising consciousness" etc and it certainly helps to go back to the basics and examine our definitions. Are we even talking about the same things?

I like the definition given here (knowledge...reality...informed decision) and from personal experience the rabbit hole is deeper than I could ever imagine.

Can someone talk about their own experience about when they first realized the world is not what it seems, that it's not what "they" say it is?

thanks

[spiral_out]

Can someone talk about their own experience about when they first realized the world is not what it seems, that it's not what "they" say it is?

thanks

My experience became very clear when I was sitting in my room one night trying to focus on the fact that we are all one consciousness. The more I thought about it and tried to picture it in my head, it felt like the material world around me was dissolving, and I was becoming a vibration in a sea of vibrations. I started to have an out of body experience where I was looking down at myself and my body was only composed of an outline of blue rings about 2 inches apart that formed a cross section every 2 inches around my body. The background to these blue rings was darkness. At the top of my head this really bright light creeped out of the top of my head and it looked like a small, white flame that hovered above my head for a few seconds. It was so bright, but it didn't hurt to look at - it just sucked you in. The moment I stared at it deeply it shot down my body in a series of 3 waves. This is when I finally realized I was looking at myself because each wave of energy actually felt like it was healing parts of my body on the way down. Everything felt so positive and it was all from the light. I lost concentration at that point because the situation was so intense and I realized that in my forehead area I had a very dense pain that didn't go away for over 12 hours. I looked up on the internet what people had to say about third eye experiences and I read about these "rushes of energy" and seeing light. That's when I had my first, real spiritual experience and ever since then I've managed to quit my job, sell everything i own, and move to Costa Rica to learn more about meditation and myself. Live a simpler life - so far it's been wonderful. :D

[pythaem]

My experience became very clear when I was sitting in my room one night trying to focus on the fact that we are all one consciousness. The more I thought about it and tried to picture it in my head, it felt like the material world around me was dissolving, and I was becoming a vibration in a sea of vibrations. I started to have an out of body experience where I was looking down at myself and my body was only composed of an outline of blue rings about 2 inches apart that formed a cross section every 2 inches around my body. The background to these blue rings was darkness. At the top of my head this really bright light creeped out of the top of my head and it looked like a small, white flame that hovered above my head for a few seconds. It was so bright, but it didn't hurt to look at - it just sucked you in. The moment I stared at it deeply it shot down my body in a series of 3 waves. This is when I finally realized I was looking at myself because each wave of energy actually felt like it was healing parts of my body on the way down. Everything felt so positive and it was all from the light. I lost concentration at that point because the situation was so intense and I realized that in my forehead area I had a very dense pain that didn't go away for over 12 hours. I looked up on the internet what people had to say about third eye experiences and I read about these "rushes of energy" and seeing light. That's when I had my first, real spiritual experience and ever since then I've managed to quit my job, sell everything i own, and move to Costa Rica to learn more about meditation and myself. Live a simpler life - so far it's been wonderful. :D

that sounds like a wonderful experience spiral, i'm so jealous :) If you don't mind can you talk a little bit about what you were thinking specifically before it happened? Were you just thinking about the concept of one consciousness in general? What did you picture in your head? thanks for sharing :)

[pythaem]

adampants2007 and 2008 on utube has some cool points on this awakening plz go see :)

I'm listening to KNOWLEDGE right now. So far he's just complaining a lot :/ He's rather preachy. "Think for yourself, don't take a DVD or book or whatever's word for it" Okay, I get it...... I'll keep listening for something of substance...

[spiral_out]

that sounds like a wonderful experience spiral, i'm so jealous :) If you don't mind can you talk a little bit about what you were thinking specifically before it happened? Were you just thinking about the concept of one consciousness in general? What did you picture in your head? thanks for sharing :)

I remember laying down in my bed one night after I had read 2 very amazing things about the world around me. One was the first 50 pages or so of David Icke's guide to the global conspiracy, and the other was this article (http://www.crystalinks.com/holographic.html) by Michael Talbot which explained to me how a holographic universe works. I also remember watching this Youtube video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuyRCfhCZT0&feature=related) which showed what infinity looks like and it helped me to visualize a world beyond what I was experiencing.

Taking all of what I read into account, I laid down and just started thinking about all of this. I had no real intention to meditate, that's why I was laying down instead of sitting up, but I just began to think deeply about what this would mean for myself if all of what I was reading were true. Remembering some of the highlights of what I had read about my physical body just being a vessel for consciousness and the body and consciousness being two totally different things. Also remembering that everything physical is just one way of looking at what's really there. One way of decoding what's really around us. When Icke talks about the different frequencies around us and changing the channel just like on a TV to change frequencies - that really is the reality around us. We are just operating at one frequency, and in order to see a different one our frequencies have to change or whatever we use to perceive the information around us has to fine tune its lens.

I shut my eyes and began to picture a sea of energy. What this looked like was just a sea of darkness which I was in. Very easy to picture if you just close your eyes. Imagine that even though everything around you is pitch black, you are within this sea of energy because you are conscious. Your consciousness doesn't have a form or anything physical that makes it up, it's just there within this sea of energy/darkness. That image is what you want to work toward. Only consciousness, only a singularity within the sea of energy and nothing else physical in your head, no thoughts or visions. That is all that you are, that is what you have to become. Laying there being conscious of myself in my bed, I began to picture the transformation of form that something as physical as myself must go through to become only that consciousness in a sea of energy. I pictured my physical body dissolving away into this sea of energy/darkness. Dissolving away because of the change in frequency. When i began to try to picture this change, I also remember telling myself that the gravity holding me to my bed right now is also not true and not there. I am floating in a sea of energy, I am pure consciousness dissolving away the physical to only be "itself".

Trying to picture all of this in my head, I felt a buildup/concentration/density of heat/pressure starting to build in my forehead region of my head. Exactly like a magnetic attraction within my head. The buildup that I was feeling made me stop thinking about the sea of energy stuff and I began to question what was happening to me. The second I said, "What's going on?" the attraction stopped, the meditation stopped. I quickly tried to re-enter the state I was in. I thought about the same ideas and the buildup came back and this time I didn't stop, I concentrated more on that buildup of energy that was happening. I felt like I was in control of it, once you feel it you will know what I mean by the control. I can control how much energy comes in or out of that region, and you can too once you feel what that region is and first you have to be devoid of a physical self, (or at least that's how I did it) in order to get there.

Another way to look at the buildup of energy is to picture orbs/spheres floating around your head. And one at a time you are pulling in each one to the center of your head, each one coming from a different angle. Do this maybe 10-15 times one by one and then once you've gotten that whole movement down. Imagine what it would be like to pull ALL of the orbs in at once. Try to imagine pulling all of them in a few times and you might be able to feel that buildup of pressure in your head from the magnetic effects happening and the concentration of energy there.

So after all this buildup of energy took place, that's when everything changed and I felt like I was watching a movie in my head in the way that I wasn't in control anymore. I didn't have to do anything to see what was being shown to me. This sea of darkness was complemented by seeing my body in rings with the bright light coming out of my body and shooting back down in waves. That was all something visual that just came to me and there it was, I was watching it.

I have had mild visual effects since then, but never as vibrant or awe-inspiring. However, my meditation has been very revealing and amazing to me even without the visuals. I have felt the vibrations so far of 4 chakra's, I have felt at times like my body was more geometric than I could imagine. Being that my face is more like a triangle and the forces around my body were made up of this composure. I have had my pineal gland "pop" like a popcorn sound and it has sometimes popped 5-6 times in a row. It doesn't hurt, it just always has the habit of breaking my concentration. :D I have had profound feelings of a party going on within my body. I have felt so alive at times, almost like the whole rest of my body was telling me, "we're here, you're there, we love you, there's nothing to be afraid of." Sometimes the meditation can give you the most profound feeling of peace and love. You come out of meditation wondering why your life is the way it is when all you've ever wanted to do is share this same love inside of you with the rest of the world.

[pythaem]

That sounds awesome, going to read that post a few times. Thank you so much for taking the time to explain all of that. I hope I can experience something like that someday. I did just buy the icke guide to global conspiracy the other day too, need to start that

[spiral_out]

No problem, I just hope it made some sense. I'd like to think anyone can do what I did because that's how real it is every time.

Cheers :)

[ekim]

Another great thread. DI did write a book, Infinite Love is the Only Truth - Everything Else is Illusion. Finally, as the vibration of the planet rises, we are invited to let our fears and old ways of living in the five-sense Matrix fall away. We are invited to create a reality of Love and connectedness. And we are going to wake up to our own abilities, to see and know 'way beyond what we've got now. It's going to be magical! It only takes a second to look at something in a different way and everything changes. When the current life view switches, we are in for a treat! Find something to love, and focus on that, let it spread out in ripples...it comes back around a thousandfold.
Love, angel :D

Just out of curiousity, have you ever done mushrooms or LSD?

I ask this because I know alot of people share this same vision who don't seem to know exactly what they would be in for. I read somewhere that if this energy shift takes place that lots of people will go insane and kill themselves. I think this is because these people will see the truth, and it is not at all like what we currently percieve.

For instance, if our vibration was to increase rapidly,this could attract outside attention, like shadow people, this I have seen. I saw these things jumping on my friends and basically feeding off them. For what ever reason I have always had a strong mind and have been able keep outside energies away from me.

So many people what to see the truth but how many can handle it?

[kassondra8]

...wondering why your life is the way it is when all you've ever wanted to do is share this same love inside of you with the rest of the world.

YES!!!

If you want to understand one consciousness, you have to find the LOVE inside of you that you ARE. You don't feel love, you are love. Quietly focus on that. Allow that "feeling" to overcome you. Don't direct it outward yet, allow yourself to feel love towards yourself, within yourself. Last night I was focusing on the words "I love you" in my head, but without directing them at anything or anyone. Just the words alone. Suddenly, I realized that I was consciousness telling my "self," my false identity called "Amanda," that I loved her. But I am not her. She is an illusion that I am experiencing. She is not real. And neither are you. It's just a ride.

Realize that all you have ever truly wanted is simply to love and be loved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Then, allow yourself to consider the idea that ABOLUTELY EVERYONE else feels exactly the same way you do inside. All anyone really wants is to give and receive, to BE, love. Think of someone you love deeply, and try to see yourself in them. Not in their personality, but their heart. Feel the love that exists in them. No words necessary, just FEEL them. Inside, you are both the same. You are ONE. That should help. :D


And also, if you want to awaken people, the very best way to do so is to awaken yourself! The world is the reflection of you, so if you want to change the world you must change yourself first. Take a step back and look at your life, see if you can tell how it reflects what is going on within you. And always, always, always remember that it is just an experience - EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE OK. IT ALREADY IS, because there is no time. Love is all that is necessary to awaken people. When you get in touch with that vibration, you immediately begin projecting it. It affects everything and everyone around you, whether they are aware of it or not. Change yourself, and you change everything else too. Because it is all one.


Great thread everybody! And thanks to Spiral Out for sharing that amazing experience. I think instead of using the forum to constantly bitch about/discuss the horrible shit going on right now "out there," we should all try to start talking more about OURSELVES and what the fuck is going on "in here." We are what matters, not all that bullshit. So come on everyone, share yourself! Share your experiences, your little personal "awakenings" and realizations about your own reality. That will help other people on here to awaken too. It helps to see how others do it.

YOU already have all the answers inside. All you have to do is look. :D

[kassondra8]

Just out of curiousity, have you ever done mushrooms or LSD?

Hell yes! We think of drugs as physical substances, but in reality they are energy, a frequency. That energy (of hallucinogens at least) raises awareness and opens the mind to consciousness. They are a TOOL. If you want to get out of your false personality/ego, acid/shrooms are an easy way to do so, at least in my experience. Mushrooms seem to be more emotional and heavy than LSD. I used them to go deep into my subconscious and start dealing with all the nasty shit in there that I was afraid of and had been hiding from myself. Not a pleasant trip at all, but OMG worth it. The next day, I had never felt so light or happy in my entire life. We all have some nasty shit hiding in our subconscious, and that shit needs to be brought to the surface and dealt with. So ya, mushrooms, LSD, MDA, mescaline...all tools for self realization. To each his own, but I say, why not give it a try? That's what we're here to do after all, to experience life, to truly live.

[pythaem]

Hell yes! We think of drugs as physical substances, but in reality they are energy, a frequency. That energy (of hallucinogens at least) raises awareness and opens the mind to consciousness. They are a TOOL. If you want to get out of your false personality/ego, acid/shrooms are an easy way to do so, at least in my experience. Mushrooms seem to be more emotional and heavy than LSD. I used them to go deep into my subconscious and start dealing with all the nasty shit in there that I was afraid of and had been hiding from myself. Not a pleasant trip at all, but OMG worth it. The next day, I had never felt so light or happy in my entire life. We all have some nasty shit hiding in our subconscious, and that shit needs to be brought to the surface and dealt with. So ya, mushrooms, LSD, MDA, mescaline...all tools for self realization. To each his own, but I say, why not give it a try? That's what we're here to do after all, to experience life, to truly live.

Ever try DMT or Salvia? I would love to try Salvia, just because it seems like it would be a useful tool, and not as long-lasting in case it was a bad "trip" (I hear it only lasts a few minutes) I tried LSD once when I was 15 but it was a verrrrrry small amount. Other than that i've only smoked pot lol. I'm really afraid to use those drugs.....but Salvia I could get on board with....if I only I could find some :(

[kassondra8]

Ever try DMT or Salvia? I would love to try Salvia, just because it seems like it would be a useful tool, and not as long-lasting in case it was a bad "trip" (I hear it only lasts a few minutes) I tried LSD once when I was 15 but it was a verrrrrry small amount. Other than that i've only smoked pot lol. I'm really afraid to use those drugs.....but Salvia I could get on board with....if I only I could find some :(

Ya, I've done salvia. Usually you can find it at smoke shops. No idea why they made it legal...That shit is intense, at least the concentrated kind. The high only lasts like 10/15 minutes, but wow. I couldn't walk, couldn't move, couldn't remember who or where I was. I fell to the floor within about 5 seconds of taking one big hit. It was like gravity no longer came from below, but from strong hands behind me shoving me to the floor. I was melting, the walls were melting. The hallway had what seemed like a thousand, melting doors. I knew I had had the urge to go into one of them (my bedroom) but could no longer remember where I wanted to go or why. I had NO IDEA I was on a drug. There was NO memory of my life, my self, my name, my location, my friends, my family. There was nothing but the confusion and the never-ending melting hallway. I sat there on the floor the whole time, slowly remembering who I was, and that I had just taken a drug. I pulled myself up by a door handle and stood there, utterly exhausted, feeling fucking pissed that the shit was legal....lol. All in all, I guess it was cool. It's an interesting story to share, but I didn't really get anything enlightening out of it. However, a lot of people do. The experience is EXTREMELY unique to the individual, as far as can tell. I have heard all kinds of weird salvia experiences, never two of the same or even similar. So I say, go for it. Don't let fear hold you back from doing/experiencing what you want to. Fear, after all, is only an illusion anyways. I just say Yes to drugs, and No to fear, lol. :p (Well, yes to hallucinogens and weed anyways. The PTB can take all their meth/cocaine/PCP/heroin/prescription bullshit/etc. and shove it up their fucking asses for all I care.) Anyways, if you find some, you should try it. It could be an AMAZING experience for you, and will definitely help you get over the fear of trying something else. I used to be terrified of acid. My first trip I only took one hit and could not believe how calm I was and how smooth the trip went. Barely even had any visuals. Trust me, one hit is not scary. Shrooms are more intense by far.

Good luck. :)

[fishonwheels]

I read somewhere that if this energy shift takes place that lots of people will go insane and kill themselves. I think this is because these people will see the truth, and it is not at all like what we currently percieve.

For instance, if our vibration was to increase rapidly,this could attract outside attention, like shadow people, this I have seen. I saw these things jumping on my friends and basically feeding off them. For what ever reason I have always had a strong mind and have been able keep outside energies away from me.

So many people what to see the truth but how many can handle it?

I'm curious as to where you might've read that, about the energy shift being too much for some to handle. Seems like many define waking up as realizing we're not merely five sense reality, i guess getting a step closer to the truth.

Where I'm coming from, to be real honest, I've seen many abuses of the paranormal, guess you can say "black magic" or "negative entities" as some might call it.

Are you guys familiar with the term "gang stalking," aka cause/organized stalking? Sure a google search will return many results. Curiously most of these accounts came out online 2007 or after, which was when my own experiences exploded. There definitely is an occult dimension to my own experience involving telepathy/hive mind etc.

Ever had experience with hearing/projecting thoughts? At the most intense phase of my experience these people would be walking by while you hear things like "there he is...just push him over...figure it out!!" "Waking everybody up..." Makes more sense when you put it in context but.

I assure you it wasn't mental illness. The thought projection often went both ways as I'd think for eg "you're a dick" upon hearing their thought projections and they'd turn around smile or give me a look or react in other ways etc. How long has the world been this way? Any theories?

That was when I was first sensitized to the phrase "waking up," since I'd hear it so often projected by these people loud and clear. And this is why i'm probing for the definition of that.

Could waking up be just that? Going a little beyond the five sense? I like the working definition given beginning of this thread, about seeing reality clearly so you have the knowledge to make informed decisions.

Have had something like Spiral Out's experience as well though not as intense.

"so many want to see the truth but how many can handle it?"

Try me

[ekim]

By the sound of it you have a good idea what may be comming fishonwheels.

I'm just not so sure about those who have never had a glimpse outside the conditioned 5 senses, it could be very intense.

I once watched a dozen or so shadow people jump all over my friends, feeding off them and thier fear. I really didn't feel ill intentions from them, which is why I stayed calm and just watched.

We will not be able to hide anymore as well, others will hear and see our thoughts, just think about that.

Another thing that could happen is we may start to see the people who have passed on. My grandmother told me this after she died, she said that the spirit world and our world were merging.

Sure some people will be able to handle all this without ever experiencing altered states, others I'm not so sure about.

[fishonwheels]

Thanks Ekim for fast reply.

A very large percentage of people I cross paths with daily seem sixth sense attuned. Some of them thought wise, some feeling wise, some just know, some literally able to see things others can't. I take it you're one of these people?

People used to say "be careful" to me all the time after one look but never bothered to clarify. Perhaps there were literally entities feeding off of me? Can this weaken a person?

It seems many entities and flesh and blood humans do bad things to others not entirely out of malice but in order to "eat." Icke's inter-dimensional beings for one, feeding off of our negativity.

Have you always been able to see shadow people? Do you see anything else? What is the extent of your sixth sense? Have you formulated any theory about the world based on your direct experience? How would your version of reality differ with the official "secular/scientific" world view?

A bit general but I hope you can clarify.

Perhaps you can also direct us to relevant threads you've posted on before.

[itsallinus]

"so many want to see the truth but how many can handle it?"

This is a good question, I guess if people were not ready then it would be a major shock and most likely through infinite possibility we will see every kind of response/reaction. But this is where we come in, this is when those who understand and are aware can help those who find it too much. Nothing can stop what's happening (hooray!) so there will be many freaking out who may only need guidance and love, this will be a challenge we may well have to face and truth will be on our side. A long time ago those who could SEE beyond the five senses were respected and trusted above all else, at the moment they are nut jobs only fit for the asylum. This perception will change once more, in fact it already is, slowly..

[fishonwheels]

at the moment they are nut jobs only fit for the asylum.

What percentage of people do you figure know there's so much more beyond the five sense? I've encountered many. Very many. Even the "priesthood" in the church of "mental health system."

I was in an asylum for two weeks for assaulting a roommate of mine. Long story. If you haven't heard of organized/cause stalking check it out many "targetted individuals" have come out since 2006. As usual once you're in there everything goes according to plan they label you "paranoid delusional." It's quite the charade.

The inmates were as "sensitive" as the everyday folks on the streets. When I was in there there was a girl that liked to pace back and forth while talking to herself out loud. A couple instances I thought something and she repeated word for word the entire sentences I just thought.

I never said a word about this to any of the staff. Soon after that my case manager kept asking me if i had heard other peoples' thoughts or they of mine. I denied it, of course. But every week for a couple months she'd press me on that. All this while other strange things were said by the doctors, too lengthy to get into right now.

If you look up paranoid delusional disorder hearing voices isn't exactly a diagnostic criterium. These mental health people are just as fully aware of what's going on as all the rest.

My question is this, if everybody knows, why don't they say so? This applies to other things. The emperor's new clothes. Who is this oppressive "big brother" everyone's so afraid of? What is it? Culture? the "system"? Neighbors? government?

Ever hung out with a large group of people and everyone wanted McDonalds later found out no one wanted McDonalds but "I suggested it cuz I thought you wanted it"?

Thoughts plz

[fishonwheels]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLV8s-4YX0U&feature=PlayList&p=35BA74FC9A3C8546&index=10&playnext=3&playnext_from=PL

[energi]

Edit: This thread is most definitely food for thought, I love this.


"so many want to see the truth but how many can handle it?"

Try me

Since I feel slightly scared when reading about the "shadow people", I wonder if I'd be one of those who will kill themselves?

Scared isn't the right word for me to use though, I don't mean frightened or scared shitless but a minor... discomfort (it's getting late over here)?

[cryst4l]

By thinking that you are awake and that others are asleep, you may also be just as asleep as them. One thing I am waking up to (finally) is that telling others about the nwo is only feeding the nwo and helping to bring it into reality. The only thing we should be waking up to is ourselves, looking for truth within. So far as I know there is less than a handful of people on this forum that are near to waking up and I am not at that stage yet either. The rabbit hole is only the entrance.

Such a good post itsallinus :)

The law of attraction feeds what we despise the most!

The only place we can find the truth is within, and once you find that truth then the "rabbit hole" becomes much bigger and more powerful than anyone can imagine.

I have a little more faith though that there are more than a handful on here ;)

[itsallinus]

What percentage of people do you figure know there's so much more beyond the five sense? I've encountered many. Very many. Even the "priesthood" in the church of "mental health system."

Well its starting to sink in how big the awakening really is, how many are not speaking up because they know what's going on and that there's more to all this but fear holds them back, they tend to keep themselves busy with material things and won't let themselves face the truth they are aware they know, too afraid to face themselves perhaps?

I was in an asylum for two weeks for assaulting a roommate of mine. Long story. If you haven't heard of organized/cause stalking check it out many "targetted individuals" have come out since 2006. As usual once you're in there everything goes according to plan they label you "paranoid delusional." It's quite the charade.

The inmates were as "sensitive" as the everyday folks on the streets. When I was in there there was a girl that liked to pace back and forth while talking to herself out loud. A couple instances I thought something and she repeated word for word the entire sentences I just thought.

I never said a word about this to any of the staff. Soon after that my case manager kept asking me if i had heard other peoples' thoughts or they of mine. I denied it, of course. But every week for a couple months she'd press me on that. All this while other strange things were said by the doctors, too lengthy to get into right now.

If you look up paranoid delusional disorder hearing voices isn't exactly a diagnostic criterium. These mental health people are just as fully aware of what's going on as all the rest.

My question is this, if everybody knows, why don't they say so? This applies to other things. The emperor's new clothes. Who is this oppressive "big brother" everyone's so afraid of? What is it? Culture? the "system"? Neighbors? government?

Ever hung out with a large group of people and everyone wanted McDonalds later found out no one wanted McDonalds but "I suggested it cuz I thought you wanted it"?

Thoughts plz

As long as they are fed small comforts every now and then they hang onto the illusion, perhaps they are not ready yet, perhaps their HS wants them to prolong the 'real' experience for now. we may be One but we have our higher self and it has its own simultaneous incarnations that each have their own awakening according to the HS, some my have awakened in a different linear time but it is still happening NOW.

[ekim]

Thanks Ekim for fast reply.

A very large percentage of people I cross paths with daily seem sixth sense attuned. Some of them thought wise, some feeling wise, some just know, some literally able to see things others can't. I take it you're one of these people?

People used to say "be careful" to me all the time after one look but never bothered to clarify. Perhaps there were literally entities feeding off of me? Can this weaken a person?
It seems many entities and flesh and blood humans do bad things to others not entirely out of malice but in order to "eat." Icke's inter-dimensional beings for one, feeding off of our negativity.

Have you always been able to see shadow people? Do you see anything else? What is the extent of your sixth sense? Have you formulated any theory about the world based on your direct experience? How would your version of reality differ with the official "secular/scientific" world view?

A bit general but I hope you can clarify.

Perhaps you can also direct us to relevant threads you've posted on before.

I am definately in the sensitive side of the 5 sense world, I only catch glimpes of what else is out there. I don't see aura's but see coloured light on or near people at times. I often feel things I can't explain, I seem to have always been able to feel others fears. Just yesterday I heard about some concentration camps set up for "swine flu"(not sure it's true) and then read a post on here about people running in to get thier vaccine. I was overwhelmed with fear, had the start of an anxiety attack, but quickly realized I was feeling the people fear, they are so fucking scared. I refuse to let that effect me.

I do see shadow people quite often, but it's usually brief and/or out of the corner of my eye. The one time I did plainly see and watch shadow people was durring an acid trip. I think those who have done "halucinogenics" may find it less of a shock when they start to see things while sober, which many are doing.

I have a friend that has just started see things out of the corner of his eye, he was scared to tell anyone as he sorta thought he was losing it. His girlfriend told him he's fine cause lots of us have been seeing these things for quite awhile.

More and more people are gonna end up in the "mental" hospitals for no other reason than nobody will tell them they are fine. I feel for the girl who could read minds, thats amazing yet she is rejected and made t believe she is crazy.

There are many people walking around with entities attatched to them, but don't worry they are easy to get rid of. You just have to go inside yourself and feel your bodies. Feel for areas that are hot, cold, painful or even just heavy. These are possible areas that have entities, or possibly emotional blocks. Whether it's entities or emotions, they can be released. Ask in a strong but respectful way that they return to where they came from. You could do some visualizing of the release or physically make gestures of cutting them free, do what ever your intuition tells you. I'm not into traditionally ways of doing things, although they are good for basic understanding, I think everyone has thier own ways of healing themselves. So don't worry that you don't know what you are doing because you do, we all do, we just limit ourselves.

Since I feel slightly scared when reading about the "shadow people", I wonder if I'd be one of those who will kill themselves?

Scared isn't the right word for me to use though, I don't mean frightened or scared shitless but a minor... discomfort (it's getting late over here)?

I think these beings work sort of like contracts, you have to allow them to do anything to you, fear is looked at like an agreement. I think there are other ways of contracting with them as well, but like all contracts, they can be ended.

[fishonwheels]

As long as they are fed small comforts every now and then they hang onto the illusion, perhaps they are not ready yet, perhaps their HS wants them to prolong the 'real' experience for now. we may be One but we have our higher self and it has its own simultaneous incarnations that each have their own awakening according to the HS, some my have awakened in a different linear time but it is still happening NOW.

I see. I take it that "HS" stands for higher self?

Thanks for the feedback itsallinus but the paragraph in red in post #32 wasn't by me lol.