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thequestion

28-05-2008, 01:02 AM

It's come to my attention that alot of the people in this forum that say they love and live in light do not always show it. The negative comments need to stop. This doesn't help anybody, does it? When someone says something that you find wrong or offensive, don't answer it with another "sarcastic" statement and such. THIS is the negative you are feeding to the dark. Search deep for the right answer, you know its there...all you have to do is LOOK. You ALWAYS have an option, use it. Then once we understand to love and cope with each other, is when we can truly shine light through ourselves and the world.

lookfar

28-05-2008, 01:06 AM

Good post there & I totally agree:) It certainly doesn't help by feeding negativity, we have enough of that in this world without creating more of it imo.

empyblessing

28-05-2008, 01:25 AM

While giving rise to light the darkness is made manifest. In the forms of guilt does false love spread conquest. Through ridicule, shame, and false blame do the the patriot and the gatekeepers become one and the same. Victory is achieved by making your enemy tame.

steevo

28-05-2008, 01:52 AM

izzy

28-05-2008, 02:27 AM

opps i have just called someone a twit because they said that all homeless people should be sectioned ...:eek:

but you are so right .. I should respond with kindness not annoyance ... ill try :)

thequestion

28-05-2008, 02:57 AM

good will towards all men. (and women);) no matter how ignorant you think they are, put your pride aside and become "the bigger man" (or woman);)

to help is to love, to criticize is to hate

cruise4

28-05-2008, 03:06 AM

I don't know so much... its all a bit tongue in cheek most of the time and sometimes hilarious. I always like the 'open' option. Say what you feel then we know where we are and it avoids charges of manipulation. i suppose its a personality thing on how you take it. I can't think of anyone I dislike on the board regardless of what I might say. Everyone has a niche to fill and thank god its not the same niche for everyone.

thequestion

28-05-2008, 06:23 AM

delamo1999

28-05-2008, 07:10 AM

In my opinion we should NOT respond AT ALL to the "negative" threads. But everyone has to do it BY CHOICE and their own free will.
Let the trolls feed the trolls and then put the thread in the rant room I say.

I agree with you here. To many times I have seen heated posts arise out of these kinds of posts. I also say ignore the ones that involve name calling or putdowns.

:)

blokey

28-05-2008, 07:31 AM

It's come to my attention that alot of the people in this forum that say they love and live in light do not always show it.

Love and light is a regurgitation of the 60's, it should stay there. It's a nice sentiment but it means absloutely nothing, please give examples of this 'light' you talk about if you consider me wrong. And please no fluffy answers such as 'only those on the right path shall see and experience the light'.

Search deep for the right answer, you know its there...all you have to do is LOOK.

Looking on Google you mean? Or reading the odd book or going to a seminar, they don't count, they are just OTHER peoples opinions and they don't quantify the truth no matter how much they fit your beliefs, and please don't respond with something like 'look deep inside' etc because thats rubbish.

All this talk about light and dark really is new-age nonsense.

loderlive

28-05-2008, 08:38 AM

Love and light is a regurgitation of the 60's, it should stay there. It's a nice sentiment but it means absolutely nothing, please give examples of this 'light' you talk about if you consider me wrong. And please no fluffy answers such as 'only those on the right path shall see and experience the light'.

Looking on Google you mean? Or reading the odd book or going to a seminar, they don't count, they are just OTHER peoples opinions and they don't quantify the truth no matter how much they fit your beliefs, and please don't respond with something like 'look deep inside' etc because thats rubbish.

All this talk about light and dark really is new-age nonsense.

It shines out of your arsehole.

montag

28-05-2008, 09:18 AM

Love and light is a regurgitation of the 60's, it should stay there. It's a nice sentiment but it means absloutely nothing, please give examples of this 'light' you talk about if you consider me wrong. And please no fluffy answers such as 'only those on the right path shall see and experience the light'.

Looking on Google you mean? Or reading the odd book or going to a seminar, they don't count, they are just OTHER peoples opinions and they don't quantify the truth no matter how much they fit your beliefs, and please don't respond with something like 'look deep inside' etc because thats rubbish.

All this talk about light and dark really is new-age nonsense.

Your a right piece of work mate, talk about negative responses, here you are preempting what you think someone may say just so you can have a crack at them early. I'll give you some new age advice, bugger off!:)

blokey

28-05-2008, 09:35 AM

Your a right piece of work mate, talk about negative responses, here you are preempting what you think someone may say just so you can have a crack at them early. I'll give you some new age advice, bugger off!:)

What I have posted I believe to be the Truth.

blokey

28-05-2008, 09:36 AM

It shines out of your arsehole.

How charming....

Anders Lindman

28-05-2008, 09:40 AM

All people have a lot of negativity in them. It's inevitable since we are not separate from the world we live in. It's a kind of pressure inside that sometimes needs to be vented.

The problem is that if the root cause of negativity is not dealt with, then pressure will soon return after it has been vented.

The root cause of negativity is an inner conflict. Resolving that inner conflict results in a true removal of negativity. A very tricky task it is. Good luck to ya! :p:D

robby

28-05-2008, 09:40 AM

I totally agree… and seen that we are also debating about love and light etc what is your take on this ??? would the quote below allow one a understandable preception??

Quote\::

Many readers seem to have grossly misunderstood the Cassiopaean remarks about "love," mainly because they don't play the game of exciting your "feel good" brain chemicals with their words. They have said that "Real love is not strictly hormonal." When I subsequently remarked:

Q: (L) There are many teachings that are promulgated that Love is the key, the answer. They say that illumination and knowledge and whatnot can all be achieved through love.

A: The problem is not the term "love," the problem is the interpretation of the term. Those on third density have a tendency to confuse the issue horribly. After all, they confuse many things as love. When the actual definition of love as you know it is not correct either. It is not necessarily a feeling that one has that can also be interpreted as an emotion, but rather, as we have told you before, the essence of light which is knowledge is love, and this has been corrupted when it is said that love leads to illumination. Love is Light is Knowledge. Love makes no sense when common definitions are used as they are in your environment. To love you must know. And to know is to have light. And to have light is to love. And to have knowledge is to love.

Now, please stop and ponder these words carefully.

When the Cassiopaeans use the term "knowledge," they are using it in the deepest sense of the word. To have "facts," to be able to "remember things," or to relate things to one another, or to creatively utilize what one remembers or relates, has absolutely nothing to do with Knowledge in the Cassiopaean sense of the word. They have asked us to consider this word carefully, asking:

Where is there any limitation in the concept behind the word "knowledge"? Being that there is no limitation, what is the value of that word? Infinite. Can you conceive of how that one concept, that one meaning frees you from all limitation? Use your sixth sense to conceive of how the word, the term, the meaning of knowledge can provide you with all that you could possibly ever need. If you think carefully you will begin to see glimpses of how this is true in its greatest possible form.

...Can you think of how it would be that simply with one term, this one word can carry so much meaning? We sense that you are not completely aware. You can have glimpses of illumination and illumination comes from knowledge. If you strive perpetually to gain and gather knowledge, you provide yourself with protection from every possible negative occurrence that could ever happen. Do you know why this is? The more knowledge you have, the more awareness you have as to how to protect yourself. Eventually this awareness becomes so powerful and so all encompassing that you do not even have to perform tasks or rituals, if you prefer, to protect yourself. The protection simply comes naturally with the awareness.

...Knowledge has all substance. It goes to the core of all existence. ...It includes adding everything to one's being that is desirable. And also, when you keep invoking the light, as you do, truly understand that the light is knowledge. That is the knowledge which is at the core of all existence. And being at the core of all existence it provides protection from every form of negativity in existence. Light is everything and everything is knowledge and knowledge is everything. ... If you simply have faith [in the concept of seeking knowledge], no knowledge that you could possibly acquire could possibly be false because there is no such thing.

That is, "knowledge," by the Cassiopaean definition, is not false. Facts that later prove to be false, were never knowledge to begin with, even if they were erroneously counted as "knowledge."

Anyone or anything that tries to give you false knowledge, false information, will fail. The very material substance that the knowledge takes on, since it is at the root of all existence, will protect you from absorption of false information which is not knowledge.

This suggests that each level of knowledge that we acquire prepares us for the next level, and the next, and so on. Those who seek to know things that they have no preparation to receive, are subject to obfuscation.

There is no need to fear the absorption of false information when you are simply openly seeking to acquire knowledge.

This last remark is crucial: "when you are simply openly seeking to acquire knowledge." I know that everyone who is "seeking" thinks that they are "open," but if you carefully examine your thoughts, you will discover that you have a lot of "beliefs" and assumptions that you expect your "seeking" to confirm. The next comments elaborate on this:

And knowledge forms the protection -- all the protection you could ever need. ...[People who claim to be receiving knowledge by faith who later find that they have received false information] ...are not really gathering knowledge. These people are stuck at some point in their pathway to progress and they are undergoing a hidden manifestation of what is referred to in your terms as obsession. Obsession is not knowledge, obsession is stagnation. So, when one becomes obsessed, one actually closes off the absorption and the growth and the progress of soul development which comes with the gaining of true knowledge. For when one becomes obsessed one deteriorates the protection therefore one is open to problems, to tragedies, to all sorts of difficulties. Therefore one experiences same.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/wave13j.htm

alice34

28-05-2008, 09:47 AM

It shines out of your arsehole.

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6555/1210300064121rv8.jpg

loderlive

28-05-2008, 09:51 AM

How charming....

look "deep inside it" for your truth.

you may find its full of shit.

blokey

28-05-2008, 09:55 AM

look "deep inside it" for your truth.

you may find its full of shit.

Ah straight from the keyboard of the 'keeper of truth'

thequestion

28-05-2008, 10:03 AM

Love and light is a regurgitation of the 60's, it should stay there. It's a nice sentiment but it means absloutely nothing, please give examples of this 'light' you talk about if you consider me wrong. And please no fluffy answers such as 'only those on the right path shall see and experience the light'.

Looking on Google you mean? Or reading the odd book or going to a seminar, they don't count, they are just OTHER peoples opinions and they don't quantify the truth no matter how much they fit your beliefs, and please don't respond with something like 'look deep inside' etc because thats rubbish.

All this talk about light and dark really is new-age nonsense.

so you have not experienced the light?...NOTHING is worth getting angry about. true happiness is achieved this way...there is no better, no more, no less, there is only love. It is equal in all its wonder, and it knows no boundarys.

its really a simple concept, that most people make out to be this TOTALLY HARD TASK OF PERFORMING. your right about peoples opinions, i said nothing about that. why not try your best to be positive and love instead of to be negative and hate? because you have that power, love...it is inside you and when it shines you will know it.

thequestion

28-05-2008, 10:08 AM

look "deep inside it" for your truth.

you may find its full of shit.

Ah straight from the keyboard of the 'keeper of truth'

:( there is no love here, maybe i am at the wrong forum.

alice34

28-05-2008, 10:14 AM

Ah straight from the keyboard of the 'keeper of truth'

http://media.geekarmy.com:81/hfile/out_dfp.php/i3246_2m8k8tckeyboard.jpg

thequestion

28-05-2008, 10:19 AM

And please no fluffy answers such as 'only those on the right path shall see and experience the light'.

the truth hurts at first, after that its like being on morphine patches 24/7:)

loderlive

28-05-2008, 10:20 AM

:( there is no love here, maybe i am at the wrong forum.

Love is to recognise bullshit when you see it and not to appease it.

thequestion

28-05-2008, 10:22 AM

Love is to recognise bullshit when you see it and not to appease it.

how could love possibly relate to bullshit?

find peace friend

lookfar

28-05-2008, 10:27 AM

alice34

28-05-2008, 10:30 AM

how could love possibly relate to bullshit?

find peace friend

I think loderlive has a point, but I think bullshit needs to be accepted as part of every day existence too without rejection or overt attachment.

Think of the person who represents the most to you in love, wisdom, genius etc, and never forget they wipe their bottom, pick their nose, and fart too.

All of those things, you may even love doing on occasion too.

No shame in that, or placing the shame on another for doing so.

*sound of toilet flushing*

loderlive

28-05-2008, 10:31 AM

how could love possibly relate to bullshit?

find peace friend

It does not, I do not, just a recognition of what is.

alice34

28-05-2008, 10:33 AM

I notice there are some who just can't help themselves by posting negative stuff in a non-negative thread, just proves the OP's point doesn't it really:rolleyes: I suppose they'll never get the message as they just don't want to. It's best to ignore them thequestion, you're only feeding it by replying to them imo.

Hey lookfar, not sure if its fair to call it a non-negative thread when the thread itself is called

"Negative Attitude, Negative Energy"...

Surely if OP was genuinely expecting a positive thread, the first thing to call it would have been "Positive Attitude, Positive Energy".

To me it looks more like a provocation.....and one to enjoy...:)

lookfar

28-05-2008, 10:36 AM

Hey lookfar, not sure if its fair to call it a non-negative thread when the thread itself is called

"Negative Attitude, Negative Energy"...

Surely if OP was genuinely expecting a positive thread, the first thing to call it would have been "Positive Attitude, Positive Energy".

To me it looks more like a provocation.....and one to enjoy...:)

Hey froggy:)

Yeah ok I should've worded that a bit better considering the title of the thread, but you know what I'm getting at here:p

thequestion

28-05-2008, 10:37 AM

I notice there are some who just can't help themselves by posting negative stuff in a non-negative thread, just proves the OP's point doesn't it really:rolleyes: I suppose they'll never get the message as they just don't want to.

to the negative -> now, i bet your still gargling that pride around in your mouth. it tastes good when you swallow it.

(well said lookfar)

thequestion

28-05-2008, 10:40 AM

blokey

28-05-2008, 11:40 AM

Love is to recognise bullshit when you see it and not to appease it.

So much anger...

loderlive

28-05-2008, 11:45 AM

So much anger...

Anger is to participate in bullshit when you see it and to uphold it.

icke_is_right

28-05-2008, 12:13 PM

I'm the slave of my ego still. I'm trying hard to break free of it but have made massive progress from where I first started. I think that rants are mainly ego based and also reflect demeanour. We are in a stressful environment, so it's understandable but trying to rise above it, for your own good, is the way to go.

Mo0n5tar

28-05-2008, 12:20 PM

It's come to my attention that alot of the people in this forum that say they love and live in light do not always show it.
Sounds very luciferian.

eternal_spirit

28-05-2008, 12:21 PM

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/6555/1210300064121rv8.jpg

....................
That's my morning LOL. I do feel that way at times spend so much time on the PC:eek: That could be my new excuse...Too much internet causes me to post random abuse.

I'm on best behaviour :)

blokey

28-05-2008, 12:22 PM

Anger is to ignore bullshit when you see it and to uphold it.

Really?

So if I ignore bullshit I get angry? You might I dont.

loderlive

28-05-2008, 12:42 PM

Really?

So if I ignore bullshit I get angry? You might I dont.

Yes to ignore it I am not following my heart which leads to anger.

blokey

28-05-2008, 12:49 PM

Yes to ignore it I am not following my heart which leads to anger.

Really?

So your Heart is telling you not to ingnore bullshit?

loderlive

28-05-2008, 01:04 PM

Really?

So your Heart is telling you not to ingnore bullshit?

Absolutely.

blokey

28-05-2008, 01:34 PM

Absolutely.

OK good luck with that.

alice34

28-05-2008, 01:45 PM

for young lovers...

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=4907540922643918266&hl

thequestion

28-05-2008, 05:18 PM

oops...almost created another bit of negative energy:D

synergy777

28-05-2008, 05:26 PM

evil begets evil, fear creates anger, anger creates hate, hate creates evil.

think positive, raise vibration, operate better.

this comes from discovery, knowledge/introspection and realisation. also understand your mind/brain/body and the functions of nature/laws of science. learn about history/religion.

when you know that we are all one, connected, you arrive at a threshold/starting point and learn the wonderful value of compassion/love for yourself, eachother and the source/god.

blokey

28-05-2008, 06:04 PM

synergy777

28-05-2008, 06:06 PM

shares, i own it, lol

what shall i use bro, please advise me. should i use / or - ?

i guess its from the old days of basic/dos programming, lol

marpat

28-05-2008, 06:10 PM

Yes this is definitely true. A large problem is how to deal with negativity. One of the best ways is to allow it to come to you, absorb it then send it back positive.

I think there are times when some degree of negativity is quite healthy. To see everything in a completely positive light could be to deny yourself from having a complete, balanced perspective. You cannot fully appricate the day if you do not have a night to compare it to.

The unhealthy side of negative force is when it becomes the dominant factor rather than just a balancing factor.

blokey

28-05-2008, 06:12 PM

shares, i own it, lol

what shall i use bro, please advise me. should i use / or - ?

i guess its from the old days of basic/dos programming, lol

Lol i'm pleased you took that the right way mate!

I have shares in the , key try that instead :P

jojo

28-05-2008, 06:18 PM

I posted this on another thread. I think it might be rather apt for this one too! :D

I may not post much on this forum but i read it A LOT! and i just want to say that there are so many factions and groups who argue and oppose one another. Bitch fights and handbags are thrown back and forth daily. So whether you are a mason or a satanist, a new ager or a christian, an anti jew or a world banker, and reptile believer or concrete thinker... one thing i can safely say we all have in common is we all hate DOG SHIT!

So next time people find themselves in a forum tit for tat, remember.... we can all unite in our humanity and find a common ground for agreement. I bet the person your exchanging bitch slaps with hates dog shit too!
:D

synergy777

28-05-2008, 06:20 PM

i like /,not, lol

i think i might use - instead.

the thing with negative emotions/thoughts is to allow them to exist, then analyse them, eg what is creating the emotion, is it fear from uncertainity/lack of control, sadness from loss/betrayal etc

also what do you need to do in order for the emotion to change. that way the emotion changes, and you have understanding/wisdom.

emotions are natural, so allow them to exist and teach you.

einstein said that peace cannot be kept by force but only by understanding

thus inner peace cannot be kept by force (denial/stopping it forcefuilly) but only by understanding it (analysing it), and gaining the knowledge and thus doing the actions to change/remove the emotion.

All beings have buddha nature (spirit). Mind (brain/ego/conscious/subconscious) itself is the source of true joy, wisdom and compassion. it is this discovery that constitutes enlightenment - lama jampa thaye

cruise4

29-05-2008, 12:28 AM

Reality... worst game ever... cracked me up. Cheers planetfrog :D