View Full Version : Phoenix Mars Mission: Images From The Lander
chattanova
27-05-2008, 05:08 PM
here http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=364&cID=7
lookfar
27-05-2008, 05:10 PM
Ahh excellent stuff chatt:D I was just mentioning these new pics today as I hadn't seen them yet & heard about them on the 666th Sky at Night episode yesterday. Just gonna check your link out now....
Thanks for sharing:)
chattanova
27-05-2008, 05:16 PM
Ahh excellent stuff chatt:D I was just mentioning these new pics today as I hadn't seen them yet & heard about them on the 666th Sky at Night episode yesterday. Just gonna check your link out now....
Thanks for sharing:)
No problem:) As usual it wont take us long to find something thats been airbrushed I guess ;):mad:
real6
27-05-2008, 05:33 PM
Those look real......REAL FAKE!!!
bicycle
27-05-2008, 05:36 PM
NASA's latest Martian probe last night landed safely on the red planet and issued an immediate call for Gordon Brown to resign.
The Phoenix Lander touched down shortly before midnight GMT, unfurled its solar panels and urged the prime minister to act in the best interests of the Labour Party and the country.
Tom Logan, of the Nasa Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said: "The soil sample data is telling us that while the case for Martian life is inconclusive, Labour is definitely up shit creek as long is Brown is in charge."
Logan said the probe was asked to send additional evidence and a few seconds later the screens in mission control were filled with a grainy image of former Tory prime minister John Major.
The lander last night insisted it was not a 'stalking horse' and had no ambitions to move into Number 10.
Meanwhile foreign sceretary David Milliband dismissed the resignation call, saying: "It's no secret the Phoenix Lander has never been Gordon's biggest fan.
"But all of us, including the lander, should be getting on with the job and now is not the time for space probes to be calling for a change in leadership."
He added: "Don't I remind you a little bit of Tony Blair?"
meave
27-05-2008, 05:55 PM
why cant you zoom in to picture sol1 282230801 it has a shiney bright object in the distance
upsetbrit
27-05-2008, 06:33 PM
I was looking at the images on the nasa website. There's a stone in the foreground which has been dislodged and you can see the pit where the stone had been. Caused by the lander?
Could be any region of the vast expanses of US deserts in my opinion. The pics are usually just another view of the same boring flat scene we've seen in every other alleged landing.... no background, no mountains etc.
Drop down a webcam into valles marineris or onto olympus mons and NASA will earn my respect, so long as we can get an unrestricted free 'live' feed.
I'll never believe NASA until they stop giving cartoonish bland pictures of New Mexico.
graflok
27-05-2008, 07:16 PM
I watched some TV coverage of the Phoenix Mission landing. The project leader
told the press, "The landing went so smoothly some of our people thought they
were looking at a simulation." :rolleyes:
diamond dogs
27-05-2008, 08:51 PM
Check this one out there appears to be something shaped like a skull (again) ....??:confused:
http://fawkes4.lpl.arizona.edu/images.php?gID=513&cID=8
Meave if you right click on image ...the zoom in...
meave
27-05-2008, 09:11 PM
[QUOTEMeave if you right click on image ...the zoom in...[/QUOTE]
thanks had a dumb pill today
killmicrosoft
27-05-2008, 09:28 PM
blown up image
sol1282230803
http://slat2008.googlepages.com/sol1282230803.jpg
sol1291528704
http://slat2008.googlepages.com/sol1291528704.jpg
red_ram
27-05-2008, 11:13 PM
After all these years of sending spacecraft to Mars, you would have thought they'd stick some colour cameras on them.
lookfar
27-05-2008, 11:33 PM
After all these years of sending spacecraft to Mars, you would have thought they'd stick some colour cameras on them.
Hehe yeah good point red_ram, although that'd mean we'd actually see what it was REALLY like & they don't want that do they!!:p
red_ram
27-05-2008, 11:40 PM
Hehe yeah good point red_ram, although that'd mean we'd actually see what it was REALLY like & they don't want that do they!!:p
Nope.
Pity, because I have a real interest in other planets.
krakhead
28-05-2008, 12:01 AM
After all these years of sending spacecraft to Mars, you would have thought they'd stick some colour cameras on them.
I was reading an article about this yesterday - can't find it in my history folder though! Someone was saying that there was absolutely no need for the the pictures to be in B+W (I have to agree with this!), he felt the reason the pictures were in B+W was that a colour photo would show people that Mars wasn't red and that it has a blue sky (something he had researched and proved elsewhere - although I never followed the link to that page).
I thought I linked to it through the Red Ice Creation site - anyone else read it?
lizzy
28-05-2008, 06:18 AM
Very funny post bicycle, :)LOL.
meave..Perhaps the skull is there wanting for Blaire's bones to arrive for the next fake -out.:D
lizzy
28-05-2008, 06:22 AM
Hehe yeah good point red_ram, although that'd mean we'd actually see what it was REALLY like & they don't want that do they!!:p
Really, :D
musti
28-05-2008, 06:36 AM
i have the feeling that they are slowly preparing the public for something. these news about mars have skyrocketed since that alleged creature on mars about half a year ago.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article713438.ece
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/01/22/life_on_mars/
interestingly i checked nasa's website and they have the same image:
http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/spirit/20080103a/1198865273_31824-1_Sol1369A_WestValley_L257F.jpg
the image size is around 40 mb and the "creature" is at the bottom left there.
anyway, i think the fact that nasa is keeping the image on their website (and for half a year) makes me a bit suspicious.
ngawaka19
28-05-2008, 07:07 AM
We got the landing on the news a few nights back, in NZ that is.
It struck me how can all the people at the control center for the Mars project on earth tell a lie like they have? You see them all at the controls when the 7 minutes of stress happens, then when it lands, they all go yeehaa, the mind bogles. How can you do this to everyone on earth? Do you think they know that its a lie? How can they not?
Evil bastards.
I told my partner, why do NASA think we will believe them after the amount of B S they have spread. He agreed. I will never believe them. And whats more, the stupid tiny little tv channels down here are all going yeehaa we've gone to mars, its taken us 11months. Not! We've been making space ships that get there in no time at all since the friken 70's.
I don't know, guess I'm just supper angry about all the years of lies and the endless sheeple idiocy that I see in my country, believing what they're told and not looking further into it.
synergy777
28-05-2008, 04:26 PM
nasa knows, so does rush limbaugh, lol
hagbard_celine
28-05-2008, 05:21 PM
Hmm:confused:
Very flat and featureless terrain. It could be anywhere!? There are lots of mountains around Area 51, but those could be removed with a touch of the airbrush and some CGI.
Maybe only some of them are fake photoes. If so then maybe they were faked to replace real photoes of Mars that were too "hot" to be published.
krakhead
28-05-2008, 08:46 PM
Here it is!
http://www.rense.com/general82/phoe.htm
rense.com
Phoenix Lander Images
Already Censored By NASA?
Oh what tales NASA can weave, after practicing to deceive...
By Ted Twietmeyer
5-26-8
Phoenix Mars Lander (image from JPL, not Mars)
First black and white May 25, 2008 image of Martian arctic landscape, taken from jpl-nasa NASA website. This is claimed to be a "raw image before processing." But JPL-NASA doesn't say just what the processing does. Surface is believed to be hard and with little dust, since the spacecraft's foot did not settle into the surface.
At 9:52PM on May 25th, 2008 there was a live NASA broadcast from NASA-JPL. A woman named Gay Yee Hill was the moderator for the NASA broadcast. What follows is what transpired on the NASA channel, about 90 minutes after the spacecraft landed. Statements shown in quotations are exact quotes of statements made.
One of the JPL engineers declared and I quote here verbatim, "They have images at the science operations center in Tucson, but we don't have them yet." Right after he said that, the live audio feed for the on-screen video was muted to an almost inaudible level until the images appeared on a wall television display at JPL. On this great historic moment, WHY was there such a delay in JPL displaying these images? It should have been essentially instantaneous.
Several minutes later only a few images from Mars were shown in this order: 1. Several images of the Phoenix solar panel array 2. One image of a circular foot pad supporting the Phoenix spacecraft. This is very similar to the foot pads on the Lunar Lander or Viking Lander. 3. One image of the horizon.
Were any of these images in color? Of course not. Lots of hugs were exchanged at JPL on camera live in color between the staff... while they waited for more black and white images to arrive from the science operations center.
Here in 2008, WHY are we still seeing MONOCROME images? This is absolutely unforgivable to still be doing this trick. The color images from Mars are obtained from a solid state camera, very similar to a typical camcorder or cell phone which almost everyone owns today (but much higher resolution.) Color information is already present in Mars images, but clearly this was deleted for reasons not explained.
The woman interviewing a project engineer eventually asked, "Will we be seeing color images?" The answer was "Yes indeed, we will be seeing color images [short pause here in his voice] in the future." But she never asked why these images today were in black and white today. Technically, there is NO reason for these live images to not be in color except for one major reason - people will realize that Mars isn't red after all, but it has a blue sky almost identical to that of Earth (which I proved with NASA images in my book.) Color image information is being sent to Earth right now, and there is no real reason whatsoever not to show these historic, polar images from Mars in black and white. Perhaps that's was "processing" does to Mars images - it alters them look so they will look like what NASA thinks the public expects to see.
After about 20 minutes, the interviewer Gay Yee Hill announced "JPL's part in the mission is now done, and they will be handing control of the mission to the University of Arizona." The NASA television special ended shortly thereafter. Images from JPL continued but audio was completely muted
What we saw today is a dramatic replay of the Viking lander more than 30 years ago, complete with another image of the spacecraft's foot and a view of the horizon. But those images broadcast more than 30 years ago from Mars were in COLOR. But not images in 2008! Who can believe this nonsense?
Data4science.net will continue to watch and report on the drama, with more reports coming on this mission as they develop. I exposed this very same censorship with the two rovers Spirit and Opportunity back in 2005 with in my book, "What NASA Isn't Telling You About Mars" (available from www.bookonmars.info .)
One can only hope that the images we are seeing actually are coming from Mars...and not from a stage somewhere.
Ted Twietmeyer
tedtw@frontiernet.net
www.data4science.net
kromagg
29-05-2008, 12:05 AM
I particularly love the images that have black blocks covering large areas in Nasa photos.
branko
29-05-2008, 11:53 AM
One rock have shape like brick.
chattanova
29-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Phoenix Lander Photographed by MRO Descending Near Heimdall Crater
http://img33.picoodle.com/img/img33/4/5/29/f_MarsPhoenixm_eaeb72a.jpg
The Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter (MRO) photographed the Phoenix hanging
from its parachute (lower left corner magnified) about 12 miles (20 kilometers)
in front of the Martian Heimdall Crater, North Pole, at about 4:38 p.m. Pacific, Sunday,
May 25, 2008. Image credit: NASA; JPL-Cal Tech; University of Arizona.
http://img30.picoodle.com/img/img30/4/5/29/f_MarsPhoenixm_cd987e0.jpg
NASA/JPL: “Scientists leading NASA's Phoenix Mars mission from the University of Arizona in Tucson sent commands to unstow its robotic arm and take more images of its landing site early today. The Phoenix lander sent back new, sharp, color images from Mars late yesterday. Phoenix imaging scientists made a color mosaic of images taken by the lander's Surface Stereo Imager on landing day, May 25, which is about one-third complete and shows a fish-eye perspective from the camera, a view from the lander itself all the way to the horizon. Phoenix adjusts its color vision with “Caltargets,” calibrated color targets on disks mounted on the landing deck. Its color vision isn't quite like human color vision, but close.” News updates about scoop arm at Phoenix Mars Mission.
http://www.earthfiles.com/
hagbard_celine
01-06-2008, 03:03 PM
That crater looks like Meteor Crater on Earth!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meteor_Crater
chattanova
08-06-2008, 04:06 PM
The Unknown 'White Object' On Mars
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/8/f_M35m_a8a7e71.jpg
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361361/pg1
hagbard_celine
09-06-2008, 11:54 PM
The Unknown 'White Object' On Mars
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/8/f_M35m_a8a7e71.jpg
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361361/pg1
Jesus H Corbett; are they going to tell us that's just an odd shaped rock!?:eek:
What could it be?... Well the Martians probably ask the same question about Phoenix!
kingmonkey
10-06-2008, 12:03 AM
i have the feeling that they are slowly preparing the public for something.
Mars + Doomsday Seed Bank = Settlement on mars.
hagbard_celine
10-06-2008, 12:09 AM
Mars + Doomsday Seed Bank = Settlement on mars.
Alternative 3!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4098412073126723357&q=alternative+3&ei=mKlNSJTpEZT6iwLBta2KDA&hl=en
(Sorry it's such poor quality. The original has been taken down.)
kingmonkey
10-06-2008, 12:34 AM
I think a colony on another planet is always in the back of the minds of a lot of people behind the scenes. I reckon that's one of the things that huge amounts of money get siphoned off into. You never hear anything of it of course but it's always their,just below the surface of the scientific collective conscious, ready to emerge when there's a technological development that could bring it closer to fruition.
janhus
10-06-2008, 11:04 AM
The Unknown 'White Object' On Mars
http://img29.picoodle.com/img/img29/4/6/8/f_M35m_a8a7e71.jpg
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread361361/pg1
it looks like a bad photoshop to me...
it's hard for me to belive in that stuff today when you can do anything with photos or videos...
3stepsahead
10-06-2008, 02:48 PM
so are you saying that whats on your avatar is not real????:confused:
I remember i saw might be on bbc the report of the first live photos from mars probe just before the weekend ( i believe) and there were two photos
the one showing a clearly blue greyish sky.
does anyone have those photos? or seen the report?
im not sure what i saw so id love to have some response to this.
janhus
10-06-2008, 03:06 PM
so are you saying that whats on your avatar is not real????:confused:
I remember i saw might be on bbc the report of the first live photos from mars probe just before the weekend ( i believe) and there were two photos
the one showing a clearly blue greyish sky.
does anyone have those photos? or seen the report?
im not sure what i saw so id love to have some response to this.
avatar is 100% real :D
i've seen these photos with earth-like sky
maybe on nasa.gov, i dont remember...
janhus
10-06-2008, 03:12 PM
this one is earth-like
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/njofra666/Svemir/mars.jpg
3stepsahead
10-06-2008, 05:36 PM
Hey Thanks:)
I guess thats very close to the ones i saw. It looks like theres cloudy :confused:
hagbard_celine
10-06-2008, 06:25 PM
it looks like a bad photoshop to me...
it's hard for me to belive in that stuff today when you can do anything with photos or videos...
It could always be a Martian weather balloon!:D:D
killmicrosoft
22-06-2008, 02:12 PM
tank tracks
this one is earth-like
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a157/njofra666/Svemir/mars.jpg
malkor
22-06-2008, 10:48 PM
It boggles me that we have Google Earth that I can use to zoom in on my house and see my truck parked in the driveway while images from Mars satellites launched with more advanced technology on board and having to penetrate 'less' atmosphere and from a lower orbit pixelize when you try to zoom in on any feature.
red_ram
22-06-2008, 11:10 PM
I was reading an article about this yesterday - can't find it in my history folder though! Someone was saying that there was absolutely no need for the the pictures to be in B+W (I have to agree with this!), he felt the reason the pictures were in B+W was that a colour photo would show people that Mars wasn't red and that it has a blue sky (something he had researched and proved elsewhere - although I never followed the link to that page).
I thought I linked to it through the Red Ice Creation site - anyone else read it?
I remember a documentary I watched years ago covering the first colour pictures back from Mars. The first pic that came back showed a blue sky, then the narrator said that the technicians had filtered too much blue into the shot. "The next day, they saw what colour the sky really was" and it showed a pink sky. I remember thinking that they couldn't have because the rocks weren't any different in shade between the two pics but thought nothing further of it.
malkor
22-06-2008, 11:31 PM
I remember a documentary I watched years ago covering the first colour pictures back from Mars. The first pic that came back showed a blue sky, then the narrator said that the technicians had filtered too much blue into the shot. "The next day, they saw what colour the sky really was" and it showed a pink sky. I remember thinking that they couldn't have because the rocks weren't any different in shade between the two pics but thought nothing further of it.
This site makes some compelling arguments on color alteration.
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/mars-hiddencolors.htm
If I was to make a guess, I would say those pictures NASA releases are taken here on earth and red-shifted to appear alien.