In all Seriousness... WHY?

[devin]

Why are we working/going to school?
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores?
Why are we driving cars?
Why are we reading books?
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati?
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one?
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...?
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet?
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate?
Why do we justify doing all these things?

[devin]

these are meant to be answered :cool:

[on the road]

these are meant to be answered :cool:

because we are shitbags :o

[catfood]

Because we are unorganised and scattered few and far between. More people need to start thinking for them self’s before we can exact any real change.

[on the road]

change is bullshit mate we are all fucked.

whos going to stop the elite ? oh wait a minute the elite are ourselves and we can wank them away into space.

we couldnt run a bath nevermind a world

[devin]

Because we are unorganised and scattered few and far between. More people need to start thinking for them self’s before we can exact any real change.

I think the stage we are at now is acting and thinking for ourselves. I think we all need to drop out of this system right now and bring as many people with us as we can. I disagreed with that a few months a go but now I have changed my mind.

[on the road]

I think the stage we are at now is acting and thinking for ourselves. I think we all need to drop out of this system right now and bring as many people with us as we can. I disagreed with that a few months a go but now I have changed my mind.

that'll never happen.

[devin]

that'll never happen.

(yawn)

[on the road]

(yawn)

yawn all you want but your daft fantasy aint happening

I know ,why dont YOU drop out and stop paying your bills ?

that'll teach em

YNWA

[devin]

yawn all you want but your daft fantasy aint happening

I know ,why dont YOU drop out and stop paying your bills ?

that'll teach em

YNWA

Thank God I have "Daft Fantasies" instead of...

"change is bullshit mate we are all fucked.

whos going to stop the elite ?"

What a fucking joke.

[devin]

The whole internet community is so fucking juvenile. I'm including myself too. I look at things that used to amaze me and it's so laughable nowadays.

[on the road]

Thank God I have "Daft Fantasies" instead of...

"change is bullshit mate we are all fucked.

whos going to stop the elite ?"

What a fucking joke.

thanking god....another daft fantasy

your full of em ;)

[devin]

thanking god....another daft fantasy

your full of em ;)

Well thats good. The way I see it, I'm either gonna get radical right now or be forced to by the external world. So yes I'm striving to improve myself to the point where people in my town point at me from the cars and say "daft."

[on the road]

to the point where people in my town point at me from the cars and say "daft."

where do you live ?

[jim fear]

Why are we working/going to school? because we are forced to.
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores? because we are to lazy to grow our own ( unless your me :D)
Why are we driving cars? cos girls like cars
Why are we reading books? to learn about how badly we're been fucked
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati? because we dont have half a fucking clue what else to do this is the first time in known history we've had to deal with this
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one? cos we are sheep, and we have a new shepard & the nail which stands out the most...
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...? again we're forced
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet? ok lets arange it!
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate? Because we're forced to
Why do we justify doing all these things? we dont we jsut dont have the option of walking away because someone will come for you

[devin]

Fuck planet earth and my life on it.

Who do I ultimately have to answer to about working at some garbage job or going to some joke of a school?

Who do I have to answer to in regards of doing anything I absolutely hate to do?

Who is making me do this shit?

Why do I let my family members, friends, internet people keep me status quo?

This is ridiculous. I'm still asleep.

[devin]

Why are we working/going to school? because we are forced to.
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores? because we are to lazy to grow our own ( unless your me :D)
Why are we driving cars? cos girls like cars
Why are we reading books? to learn about how badly we're been fucked
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati? because we dont have half a fucking clue what else to do this is the first time in known history we've had to deal with this
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one? cos we are sheep, and we have a new shepard & the nail which stands out the most...
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...? again we're forced
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet? ok lets arange it!
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate? Because we're forced to
Why do we justify doing all these things? we dont we jsut dont have the option of walking away because someone will come for you

The reason for all the shit we hate to do...

worry over our physical body, our life on earth.

[on the road]

Fuck planet earth and my life on it.

Who do I ultimately have to answer to about working at some garbage job or going to some joke of a school?

Who do I have to answer to in regards of doing anything I absolutely hate to do?

Who is making me do this shit?

Why do I let my family members, friends, internet people keep me status quo?

This is ridiculous. I'm still asleep.

smoke some weed and chill out seriously

[devin]

smoke some weed and chill out seriously

Hell no. I feel like it's the end of my life coming up very soon and I don't want anything to calm me down.

[devin]

I was meditating the other day and I've always considered myself not too good at meditating but two days ago I meditated for an hour - longest ever... I got the realization that I am precious beyond measure - and this is after a life of self-hate and twisted narcissism. I realized I am beyond all of this laughable shit. Jobs, taxes, school, weed, internet, all of it. Everyone is!

[on the road]

I was meditating the other day and I've always considered myself not too good at meditating but two days ago I meditated for an hour - longest ever... I got the realization that I am precious beyond measure - and this is after a life of self-hate and twisted narcissism. I realized I am beyond all of this laughable shit. Jobs, taxes, school, weed, internet, all of it. Everyone is!

even weed ?

:confused:

[devin]

even weed ?

:confused:

Even the fashion that goes along with smoking, defending, praising, and joking about weed.

[cleft_asunder]

Why are we working/going to school?
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores?
Why are we driving cars?
Why are we reading books?
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati?
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one?
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...?
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet?
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate?
Why do we justify doing all these things?

Let me guess... you ate mushrooms, and then after the 6 hours was over you started to crash, and it all became not fun anymore. I say that because that's what happens to me.

[devin]

Let me guess... you ate mushrooms, and then after the 6 hours was over you started to crash, and it all became not fun anymore. I say that because that's what happens to me.

I can't believe I'm hearing about weed and fucking mushrooms right now.

[on the road]

Let me guess... you ate mushrooms, and then after the 6 hours was over you started to crash, and it all became not fun anymore. I say that because that's what happens to me.

mate,he beyond weed AND mushrooms

nice guess though lol

[devin]

This web forum is like a public high school in America.

[lightgiver]

Its called BRAINWASHING:D:D:D

[on the road]

nice cup of hot sweet tea should sort that out cocker!

[devin]

Its called BRAINWASHING:D:D:D

Brainwashing is a part of it. We know we are brainwashed but we still conform and justify that conformity with our mental gymnastics because we truly believe (despite all the things we read and talk about) that we are only our physical body.

[cleft_asunder]

I think the stage we are at now is acting and thinking for ourselves. I think we all need to drop out of this system right now and bring as many people with us as we can. I disagreed with that a few months a go but now I have changed my mind.

We are at the whim of the collective. Even those of us who know the truth aren't free because the rest of humanity has us by the balls. It's us, the people that are awake, and them, the people who drone on. And who's been dominating who for thousands of years? The only purpose people like us serve in this form of mass evolution is to shake things up a bit, but NOT to change the whole humanity, because that is impossible.

Not even Buddha, Christ, or others such as Osho CAN change the whole humanity. They make an impact, for sure. And they serve a huge purpose, no doubt, but what I'm saying is that they don't change humanity to the point where they choose peace and utopia, because even if they could and have, then it's counterproductive to humanity. I don't like to believe it, but it seems this cold and brutal bloodbath we call human history is an efficient evolution for our species.

We are at the end of this evolution and now we will experience consciousness in awareness of itself. Our collective bondage --bondage to the rest of humanity and it's cold and efficient evolution-- will transform into a subjective evolutionary experience (as in you're on your own), and the new way of experiencing reality will be through truth, justice, loyalty, peace, and love. We will no longer be weighed down by everyone else's lake of vision.

I mean let's be honest here people. In our current state, we should not be going to the stars, or have access to free energy, or a utopia. That's like giving a 5 million dollar home to an ape. Or forming an Institute of Technology for dogs.

There is this Native American prophesy which I think a lot about, since right now I can totally say that we ARE in the animal cycle, and NOT the human cycle. " "There was the cycle of the mineral, the rock. There was the cycle of the plant. And now we are in the cycle of the animal coming to the end of that and beginning the cycle of the human being. When we get into the cycle of the human being, the highest and greatest powers that we have will be released to us. They will be released from that light or soul that we carry to the mind. But right now we're coming to the end of the animal cycle and we have investigated ourselves and learned what it is to be like an animal on this earth."

http://www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled/nativeam.htm

[izzy]

well I have always wondered why people did nt riot / have nt rioted about council tax ! No other country pays it - the Brits just let their govt push and push etc etc ...

My mum is retired and she has to pay £150 a month ... england sent an 89 yr old vicar to jail for not paying his CT .. and various other old people ...

Why have we allowed that !

and dont count the poll tax riots - the govt backed down and then gave it a different name [ ct ]

No one in the world pays such high prices for tiny houses. petrol and then the council has the cheek to tax us ...

Why dont people in this country stand up for themselves ...good question devin!

the brits are wet...and soft these days ... weighed down with bills and fines ...

great answer cleft :)

[devin]

We are at the whim of the collective. Even those of us who know the truth aren't free because the rest of humanity has us by the balls. It's us, the people that are awake, and them, the people who drone on. And who's been dominating who for thousands of years? The only purpose people like us serve in this form of mass evolution is to shake things up a bit, but NOT to change the whole humanity, because that is impossible.

Not even Buddha, Christ, or others such as Osho CAN change the whole humanity. They make an impact, for sure. And they serve a huge purpose, no doubt, but what I'm saying is that they don't change humanity to the point where they choose peace and utopia, because even if they could and have, then it's counterproductive to humanity. I don't like to believe it, but it seems this cold and brutal bloodbath we call human history is an efficient evolution for our species.

We are at the end of this evolution and now we will experience consciousness in awareness of itself. Our collective bondage --bondage to the rest of humanity and it's cold and efficient evolution-- will transform into a subjective evolutionary experience (as in you're on your own), and the new way of experiencing reality will be through truth, justice, loyalty, peace, and love. We will no longer be weighed down by everyone else's lake of vision.

I mean let's be honest here people. In our current state, we should not be going to the stars, or have access to free energy, or a utopia. That's like giving a 5 million dollar home to an ape. Or forming an Institute of Technology for dogs.

Cleft, I read all that stupid shit too. I've heard those things.

But I really know that I have had myself by the balls this whole time. I have sold out to the collective this whole fucking life.

[ninja17]

Why are we working/going to school? - Did you had a choice?
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores? - Why not?
Why are we driving cars? - Why not?
Why are we reading books? - Knowledge is power.
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati? - I dont.
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one? - What do you have in mind?
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...? - to be able to live freely.
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet? - There was the Brixton-Talk etc...where are you from?
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate? - If you hate the system it has won over you.
Why do we justify doing all these things? - Because you asked for it.

I feel you devin. I hope i will be able to dig out the system later in life.

[devin]

Because you asked for it.


I don't know if I asked for it... but I did take the bait when it was in front of me.

[cleft_asunder]

Cleft, I read all that stupid shit too. I've heard those things.

But I really know that I have had myself by the balls this whole time. I have sold out to the collective this whole fucking life.

I'm not saying don't take responsibility for your life. We should all think positive so that we shape a good reality for ourselves. But there are few of us like this, and even by thinking positive, we are still nothing but black sheep. The best this does is it gets us through (another) incarnation smoothly, but the whole of humanity is still enslaved.

[devin]

I'm not saying don't take responsibility for your life. We should all think positive so that we shape a good reality for ourselves. But there are few of us like this, and even by thinking positive, we are still nothing but black sheep. The best this does is it gets us through (another) incarnation smoothly, but the whole of humanity is still enslaved.

I'm not buying that idea any more.

In all honesty... Do you KNOW that it will get you through another incarnation?

[on the road]

well I have always wondered why people did nt riot / have nt rioted about council tax ! No other country pays it - the Brits just let their govt push and push etc etc ...

My mum is retired and she has to pay £150 a month ... england sent an 89 yr old vicar to jail for not paying his CT .. and various other old people ...

Why have we allowed that !

and dont count the poll tax riots - the govt backed down and then gave it a different name [ ct ]

No one in the world pays such high prices for tiny houses. petrol and then the council has the cheek to tax us ...

Why dont people in this country stand up for themselves ...good question cleft asunder !

the brits are wet...and soft these days ... weighed down with bills and fines ...

but thats it izzy in a nutshell

it would take a fucking revolution to sort this shit out.

we aint got the heart for that

so we just roll over and take it.

I bet if you lived here you would be equally as 'wet' and 'soft' as us brits.

;)

[izzy]

on the road .. I am a brit :)

soft as the rest .. with revolution in my heart :cool:

I just know we have power together and we really have let the government take the piss ... by mutual consent from us the people ...

I lived in Australia for years and do have an aus passport too ... but English really ... and in Australia at the time it was easier [ 90's] not sure if it is now ?

[ninja17]

Why do you ask questions that can only be answered by yourself.

Earth is like..Come in and find out.

Greetz

[on the road]

on the road .. I am a brit :)

soft as the rest .. with revolution in my heart :cool:

I just know we have power together and we really have let the government take the piss ... by mutual consent from us the people ...

I lived in Australia for years and do have an aus passport too ... but English really ... and in Australia at the time it was easier [ 90's] not sure if it is now ?

i know your english :)

and yes they (the masses) let them take the piss but i cant stop the bastards ,i cant alk sense into them ,they wont listen .people dont think like you and me over here,they're brainwashed .Im like an alien in my own counry.

get me the fuck outa here!!!


:)

[elysiumfire]

Hi There,

Ok. I am going to try to be positive, even though an hour or two ago I had just watched the 'Waco' documentary.

Why are we working/going to school?
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores?
Why are we driving cars?
Why are we reading books?
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati?
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one?
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...?
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet?
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate?
Why do we justify doing all these things?

These are actually good questions, Devin, and ought to remind each of us to think about the things we do in our lives as a kind of reality check.

I like to think that we are developing from the 'animal' phase of existence through to the human phase. Indeed, it may be, if you are so inclined to accept 'post-mortem consciousness' as a reality and a next phase of our existentialism, that being human is not ideally suited to the harsh environment of physical planes, but that our physical life experience readies us for the post-mortem phase in which it is ideally suited. The physical life experience, perhaps offers a civilising route to becoming human, which might more be a aspect of spirit consciousness rather than that of physical consciousness? I am not saying this as a belief, merely as a possibility.

Thus, the questions you pose are answered in the physical life experience as a way of garnering 'gnosis' (enlightenment) to humane-ness. Suffering for instance, whence experienced can become a motivator to rid the world of suffering, which entails the essential aspect of 'service to others', which imbues a civilising dynamic within oneself. Knowledge can be a means to civilise, but it can also be a means to degredation. In the end, it one's own personal response to what we each encounter in our own individual life experience that leads to the shaping and forming of the human we can potentially become. Spirit is being refined through the denser base levels of existence towards the more rarified levels...each level requiring an experience of conscious life within it.

How else are we to bring comprehension to our assaulted minds?

Best wishes

[cleft_asunder]

I'm not buying that idea any more.

In all honesty... Do you KNOW that it will get you through another incarnation?

I don't understand where you're coming from.

[devin]

I don't understand where you're coming from.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27013

[devin]

Hi There,

Ok. I am going to try to be positive, even though an hour or two ago I had just watched the 'Waco' documentary.



These are actually good questions, Devin, and ought to remind each of us to think about the things we do in our lives as a kind of reality check.

I like to think that we are developing from the 'animal' phase of existence through to the human phase. Indeed, it may be, if you are so inclined to accept 'post-mortem consciousness' as a reality and a next phase of our existentialism, that being human is not ideally suited to the harsh environment of physical planes, but that our physical life experience readies us for the post-mortem phase in which it is ideally suited. The physical life experience, perhaps offers a civilising route to becoming human, which might more be a aspect of spirit consciousness rather than that of physical consciousness? I am not saying this as a belief, merely as a possibility.

Thus, the questions you pose are answered in the physical life experience as a way of garnering 'gnosis' (enlightenment) to humane-ness. Suffering for instance, whence experienced can become a motivator to rid the world of suffering, which entails the essential aspect of 'service to others', which imbues a civilising dynamic within oneself. Knowledge can be a means to civilise, but it can also be a means to degredation. In the end, it one's own personal response to what we each encounter in our own individual life experience that leads to the shaping and forming of the human we can potentially become. Spirit is being refined through the denser base levels of existence towards the more rarified levels...each level requiring an experience of conscious life within it.

How else are we to bring comprehension to our assaulted minds?

Best wishes

Those are good ideas but check out my recent thread "Is Spiritual Development the biggest lie of all?"

[cleft_asunder]

Hi There,

Ok. I am going to try to be positive, even though an hour or two ago I had just watched the 'Waco' documentary.



These are actually good questions, Devin, and ought to remind each of us to think about the things we do in our lives as a kind of reality check.

I like to think that we are developing from the 'animal' phase of existence through to the human phase. Indeed, it may be, if you are so inclined to accept 'post-mortem consciousness' as a reality and a next phase of our existentialism, that being human is not ideally suited to the harsh environment of physical planes, but that our physical life experience readies us for the post-mortem phase in which it is ideally suited. The physical life experience, perhaps offers a civilising route to becoming human, which might more be a aspect of spirit consciousness rather than that of physical consciousness? I am not saying this as a belief, merely as a possibility.

Thus, the questions you pose are answered in the physical life experience as a way of garnering 'gnosis' (enlightenment) to humane-ness. Suffering for instance, whence experienced can become a motivator to rid the world of suffering, which entails the essential aspect of 'service to others', which imbues a civilising dynamic within oneself. Knowledge can be a means to civilise, but it can also be a means to degredation. In the end, it one's own personal response to what we each encounter in our own individual life experience that leads to the shaping and forming of the human we can potentially become. Spirit is being refined through the denser base levels of existence towards the more rarified levels...each level requiring an experience of conscious life within it.

How else are we to bring comprehension to our assaulted minds?

Best wishes

You lost me. What is "spirit consciousness" and "physical consciousness?" The word spirit means exactly the same thing as consciousness in my mind. It is the complete and ultimate intelligence, the no-thing, out of which the multiverse is born. The multiverse being a physical expression of that intelligence. I imagine you mean soul when you say spriit. The soul is another false-you like the physical body. The difference is that the body is limited to the physical and is mortal, while the soul is also mortal but has the lifespan of the multiverse. From what I understand, the subjective-consciousness which we are inhabits the soul throughout the journey through the multiverse. The soul is what evolves.

I don't believe the death world has anything to do with the issue at hand, and I certainly didn't bring it up originally. I was talking about humanity as a whole. People like Osho, Jesus, Buddha are precursors of what's to come. In their time they are the exception not the rule. They were thrown on here so that we wouldn't plunge completely into darkness (the NWO realizing itself). My only point was that evolution is happening as one collective species. If you want to be independent and move along faster you can't. If you want to break free of the system you can't, because humanity all got into the rollercoaster together and even though you didn't want to go, you didn't have that choice.

Okay, that's not true anymore though. You can break free of humanities boring, dull, harsh, and bloody evolution NOW and move to the new consciousness --the REAL human-- but that is because we are on the cusp of that new transformation. It's right around the corner, that's why people are delving into REAL spirituality (meditation, stilling the mind) at an alarming rate these days. It's MUCH easier to meditate these days.

[cleft_asunder]

Those are good ideas but check out my recent thread "Is Spiritual Development the biggest lie of all?"

Yes, let me find the link for you... :rolleyes:

[twistedconcept]

Why are we working/going to school?
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores?
Why are we driving cars?
Why are we reading books?
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati?
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one?
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...?
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet?
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate?
Why do we justify doing all these things?


1: We are sent to school in order to be indoctrinated with a false set of beliefs. From the ages of 4-16 (18), we are apparently taught the official version of historical events, basic mathematics, basic English, etc. in order to progress in life.

If a person can then attain reasonable exam results (a test where you must basically write everything you've been 'taught'), this will enable them to 'progress' in society and thus mix with the 'higher echelons'. If not, they'll have to work their arse off, supporting a regime many aren't even aware of.

An indoctrination system? Certainly.

2: The vast majority of people are so busy working to support the hidden hands they aren't aware of, in order to provide for their own family. It's simply not practical for people to obtain food by other means.

3: It wouldn't be possible to walk everywhere, for a number of reasons. A car is a useful tool, enabling people to make a simple journey in a short space of time.

4: We read books in order to gain knowledge, or simply escape the reality we understand and detest.

5: What else can the average person do? What resources do they have? They have their voice. That's enough. Spreading the word is a worthwhile and meaningful contribution.

6: What event should be created?

7: In order to support a false system we believe to be legitimate. If we don't, we'll be punished.

8: People are. However, they don't have a platform to speak anywhere. The mass media won't pay them any attention, or will simply label them as nutters. The Internet is a useful tool to converse with others and convey information.

9: It's because most people have been controlled by the very same system that they have no knowledge of. Even with the knowledge, we have to contribute to the system to an extent. It's survival. There are lines that won't be crossed. Some people do have principals. Unfortunately, there's not enough of us yet. A small minority can't change a world wide system of control completely - it can simply render its effectiveness.

10: Most people aren't aware. They're comfortable with their life. They're given just enough so they won't rebel. As Icke puts it, 'people don't rebel against being free when they believe that they are'. It's survival.

[musti]

devin, i hear you and fully understand the energy within you, which i feel very strongly time to time.

i like to use the concepts "positive/negative" or "servicetothers/servicetoself" so i'll use them now. the thing is you cannot help who doesn't want to be helped. if you force to teach or explain or help who doesn't want any of those, you are disregarding their free will, which results in an sts type of interaction. without approaching sts, we can just point things and hope that they'll use them.
i really understand your frustration or energy to change things but we cannot change all because it is not only up to you and me, it is also up to the rest of humanity. we can and should try to wake as many as possible without violating the free will of the ones who don't chose to wake up.

[drael]

Why are we working/going to school?
Why are we buying food in the grocery stores?
Why are we driving cars?
Why are we reading books?
Why are we sitting inside complaining about the illuminati?
Why are we waiting for some huge event instead of creating one?
Why are we paying taxes/mortgages,etc...?
Why are we not joining together beyond the internet?
Why are we contributing in any way to a system we hate?
Why do we justify doing all these things?

Why do anything at all? all depends on your moral/philosophical system and its basis.

IMO this crappy planet and its silly humans would require major major action to fix. It just aint worth it to me, a slightly sweeter life is better than being a colonial type throwing together huts and so forth. Feel free to go colonial for us a start a new communuty. If i ever earn a few million, id invest in some form of community project, and if someone else does one cool sounding id be interested. So, reasons:

1) Its very very hard, taking a long time to get results

2) People disagree philosophically, so u have to be all like minded

3) Money is currently the basis for all economy, to avoid this one needs to chop trees etc.

Id be happy to contribute to something provided

a) is relatively easy - no life spent in intense physical labour
b) i agreed with the principles.

[cheemflo]

It's just a ride. Your challenge is finding peace while you are on this ride... Of course it's bullshit, of course it's nonsense, of course it sucks at times. But, we all gotta go on the ride. Therein lies the challenge. And it is more of a challenge than most people can handle or conceptualize.

[sevenworlds]

I like to think that we are developing from the 'animal' phase of existence through to the human phase.

That's wishful thinking to me. We'd be doing well if we were even at the animal phase of existence.

[devin]

9: It's because most people have been controlled by the very same system that they have no knowledge of. Even with the knowledge, we have to contribute to the system to an extent. It's survival. There are lines that won't be crossed. Some people do have principals. Unfortunately, there's not enough of us yet. A small minority can't change a world wide system of control completely - it can simply render its effectiveness.


Read this article by montalk as he has a totally different view on this.

http://montalk.net/metaphys/88/opening-the-flow

I think a lot of this talk about how we can't change and it isn't up to us and life is just a ride and this is meant to be is just a more sophisticated form of brainwashing intended for people who are more awake than the "common" man.

The article I posted is about "higher laws" beyond the matrix that guide you as you take risks and defy the matrix.

[cruise4]

I've stopped a number of those things and working on some of the others, but until enough people are 'forced' to alter their perspective there is very little to be done. If that takes a nuclear war, or mass starvation or whatever I no longer care. I'll continue to do my bit as I see it and await 'opportunity'. Basically if things carry on as they are I couldn't care less about the place, reasons for being here or the sheeple. A nice planet to myself would do me fine. I'd choose otherwise, but hey, if they want to be screwed over, I'd rather be somewhere else. I'm afraid this love everyone is something I cannot get a handle on. There is no doubt that there are many people in this world I hate with a passion and I can see no logical reason to do otherwise 'at this time'.