NWO a Question to ponder about

[soxism]

A Question that has been bugging me for a few days now...

Why does the NWO want to control everyone and everything?

I cant seem to find an answer or a "simplified reason" anywhere. There is much speculation & Theroies, but does anyone have a good enough reason why they would want to control all life?

[kingmonkey]

In short, so the controlling elite and their future offspring can live in a paradise on earth forever and a day while the surviving, constantly maintained "herd" of humanity will be their slaves and work horses. They basically want a super fit and super dumb slave race with no means of breaking their mental and physical chains. They live in bliss, we do all the work. Not dissimilar to the Egyptian Pharaohs.

[truthseeker1980]

because it's easier to control with one power source rather than a load of parties not connected to each other at all.

If they get everyone believing, acting, doing, wanting, behaving and worshiping the one cause that they have designed then only one order has to be placed and all will follow.

At present there too many groups for them to completely control and the truth movement is one they will never be able to control.:p

[esse]

There is another great thread titled Why in general or today's news - all on this same subject, check it out too....

Why does a psychopath deceive, manipulate and abuse? Why kill for pleasure?
Why do people act in greed - in fear, storing up what they'll never need, hoarding -
Destroying their families, relationships, lives?

Why ask why?

Be grateful you have a healthy mind - some minds are poisoned beyond belief to those of us who are balanced. Some are never satisfied, never safe - always controlled by fear, insecurity. I think the mind of a psychopath is one we must try to understand - at least somewhat - there are so many throughout history and with us now. I think these people feel so much fear - a basic intrinsic thing missing from their spirituality - Denial of the sacred, denial of God - the belief in chaos underpins all these secret societies and occult mindsets - perhaps it is how the mind becomes bent when it is so laden down with guilt and corruption that it no longer wants to accept a Sacred Order to things - conceiving this, to one who has gone that far against their conscience out of greed, indoctrination, ignorance and being manipulated - wickedness and negation of the absolute would become their only defence - The fear they live with must be tremendous.

Imagine a Satanist, one who has been a criminal against humanity, against life - how do you think such a being feels about death? About meeting their maker?

They say these guys feed off fear - isn't that perhaps like saying misery loves company?
How can they keep up the charade and stave off the inevitable if they are surrounded by loving beings? Awareness? Truth?

I think this is the best way to help these lost souls and our world - See them for what they are, they are not powerful, they are very messed up - we need to start leading, what the fuck have we been doing letting them lead?

Let's ask that!

[mr_self_destruct]

Imagine a Satanist, one who has been a criminal against humanity, against life - how do you think such a being feels about death? About meeting their maker?


A Satanist wouldn't worry at all about "meeting their maker", as Satanist's don't believe in a maker, God, the Devil, or an afterlife. They would be fearful of death, as it means an end to Earthly enjoyment and pleasure. You say Satanists are criminals against humanity, but Satanism is quite similar to humanism.

And to link psychopaths to "non-believers" is absurd.

[esse]

They saaaay they don't believe...

definitely fearful of death...

[mr_self_destruct]

They saaaay they don't believe...

definitely fearful of death...

Who isn't fearful of death?! The religious can say they're not but that's bollocks! Everyone fears death.

[esse]

Who says they don't believe in God? They believe in the Antichrist - They practice the occult - seem like very superstitious types to me really. They probably believe in the boogeyman also, LOL - the one that might come and get them if they piss off their Dark Sith Masters

:rolleyes:

[mr_self_destruct]

You quite obviously know nothing about the subject of Satanism!

[esse]

and yr statement is based on ???

[mr_self_destruct]

Erm, the things you just said, maybe?!

[esse]

Aah - I would have to disagree and say that you know nothing of Satanism....

[mr_self_destruct]

Which would be bollocks, as I've researched it and read the Satanic Bible several times!

[esse]

aah - could have guessed it. And you think Anton is really the posterboy? That's funny to me. How did I know it - well happy conjuring wee novice..

[mr_self_destruct]

I didn't say I was a Satanist, I just said I'd researched it. I will shout a "Hail Satan" anyway just for good measure though.

[esse]

Let's not bicker and argue - yr not the only one whose researched Satanism - I just was laughing cause I knew you were going to bring that book up - I read that in high school - can't say I consider it to be real satanism - Levay's church is more of a mock front - The guy is so full of shit - he lies about everything. When I think of Satanism, I'm talking about real secret societies - Bohemian Grove - Illuminati - etc - quite different really, I would place Levay in the category of a showman whose put said book out to try and popularize notions that he borrowed from Crowley - Do What Thou Wilt in the form of his commandments. DO whatever you want as long as both parties are consenting - sounds great, but I'm afraid the real ones are not so nice - Victims of Satanic Ritual Abuse definitely are NOT consenting, these people are hidden, they exist and they are extremely perverted - malicious - deranged - need I go on.
And yeah, I do think they are quite prone to superstition, fearful of others in their orders and intrinsically fearful of the Absolute - I don't think they would say this and most likely not be conscious of it - but I think it is something which drives them. Did I mention I've known some? And some of their very abused and traumatized victims? I don't think anyone really wants experience with these people.

[esse]

Ha - just found the thread you started, was just surfing:

David clearly isn't referring to LaVeyan Satanism when he accuses the illuminati of being Satanic. Satanism is completely against sacrifice, human or animal, as well as child abuse, it's clearly stated in the Satanic Bible. Satanic child abuse stories have been shown as thoroughly fraudulent.

Curiously enough Icke's own philosophies come quite close to Satanism, especially in his advocation of self-love, individual freedom, and the rejection of enslaving dogma and self-destructive humility.

Man, I wish this were the case - but I have to tell you from experience and from research that real satanism exists, satanic abuse is going on bigtime all over the world - check out the McMartin Preschool Trials for starters - Man I know people who have got out - and have heard about what they've been thru. If only LeVay's version was all - jeez, go and google Levay's son and read what he's come out with about what really went on in his father's house.... Sorry son, but you've been had - Watch Rosemary's Baby for a good insight into these people, read Crowley's Moonchild - It is not some funky little feel good cult - it is real, a lot of high up people are involved - check out Boystown - read Fritz Springmeier and notice that he's in jail for writing expose's on mind control - Hmmm...
I could go on and on and on...

[manjosa]

quote: A Question that has been bugging me for a few days now...

Why does the NWO want to control everyone and everything?

I cant seem to find an answer or a "simplified reason" anywhere. There is much speculation & Theroies, but does anyone have a good enough reason why they would want to control all life? unquote

Good question soxism.
I guess: we are so powerful, and with the coming changes energetically our power will increase and surface.
"They" will do anything to distract us from our own power. Religion, politics, war on terror, whatever it takes to keep you busy with silly things OUTSIDE yourself.

[mr_self_destruct]

I could go on and on and on...

I take your point of view on board, I think we should let this thread return to its original topic though (sorry for hijacking) ;)

[element]

I guess: we are so powerful, and with the coming changes energetically our power will increase and surface.
"They" will do anything to distract us from our own power. Religion, politics, war on terror, whatever it takes to keep you busy with silly things OUTSIDE yourself.

What is ''our own power''? You talk about spiritual insight? Go meditate, try astral projection, listen to your intuition, write/analyze dreams, do some things perhaps? :confused::confused:
Things outside yourself, you choose that yourself mate. TV, media, fastfood, all the like. It's up to you.

It's always the same thing. We blame someone else or a group for our own ignorance and laziness.

[soxism]

Good question soxism.
I guess: we are so powerful, and with the coming changes energetically our power will increase and surface.

This is what i've basically come to as a conclusion too. The rumours out there are trying to make us fearful of 2012. But if we do the exact opposite it means we should be looking forward to 2012 as a massive awakening and growth of our 'spiritual' selves.


I stumbled upon an interesting quote the other day from Icke:
"the most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.. almost inevitably, he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable." - H.L Mecken, american writer 1880-1956
..and..
".. a informed sharp thinking, open minded population is bad to any form of control"

Anyways This Question of Why does the NWO want to control everyone and everything? came about, as i'm writing a lengthy essay on totalitarianism (Aimed at the NWO) & how they use particular technologies to control us.. The WHY they want to control us part is proving the hardest part on a 'academic' level to explain & analyse to people..

[montag]

There is another great thread titled Why in general or today's news - all on this same subject, check it out too....

Why does a psychopath deceive, manipulate and abuse? Why kill for pleasure?
Why do people act in greed - in fear, storing up what they'll never need, hoarding -
Destroying their families, relationships, lives?

Why ask why?

Be grateful you have a healthy mind - some minds are poisoned beyond belief to those of us who are balanced. Some are never satisfied, never safe - always controlled by fear, insecurity. I think the mind of a psychopath is one we must try to understand - at least somewhat - there are so many throughout history and with us now. I think these people feel so much fear - a basic intrinsic thing missing from their spirituality - Denial of the sacred, denial of God - the belief in chaos underpins all these secret societies and occult mindsets - perhaps it is how the mind becomes bent when it is so laden down with guilt and corruption that it no longer wants to accept a Sacred Order to things - conceiving this, to one who has gone that far against their conscience out of greed, indoctrination, ignorance and being manipulated - wickedness and negation of the absolute would become their only defence - The fear they live with must be tremendous.

Imagine a Satanist, one who has been a criminal against humanity, against life - how do you think such a being feels about death? About meeting their maker?

They say these guys feed off fear - isn't that perhaps like saying misery loves company?
How can they keep up the charade and stave off the inevitable if they are surrounded by loving beings? Awareness? Truth?

I think this is the best way to help these lost souls and our world - See them for what they are, they are not powerful, they are very messed up - we need to start leading, what the fuck have we been doing letting them lead?

Let's ask that!
Great post esse, and so true..

I guess the answer to your question though is people with healthy minds and a genuine caring for their fellow man do not seek control over others. Nor do we need to be led, so this seems to be the vacuum that psychopaths have filled, if they are extracted another vacuum is created ready to be filled by the next lot.

Maybe thats part of our destiny here is to go through this control matrix with the aim of transcendence, or maybe we are here to assist others to transcend. Or maybe it's all just a game. :)

[ngawaka19]

Power and control over the workers/slaves....

Greed

Bill of rights via alien genes

[esse]

What is ''our own power''? You talk about spiritual insight? Go meditate, try astral projection, listen to your intuition, write/analyze dreams, do some things perhaps? :confused::confused:
Things outside yourself, you choose that yourself mate. TV, media, fastfood, all the like. It's up to you.

It's always the same thing. We blame someone else or a group for our own ignorance and laziness.

How have any of us chosen - to be where we are - to be constantly attacked, fed poison - chemtrailed, electromagnetics, brainwashed by schools, religion, patriarchy, false myths,
Wot??? Taxed!!! Etc...

[jonb]

They have persued wealth and power to the exclusion of all else. If they gave it up what would they have?
How much do you have to own before it cant be taken from you?
It is fear of us that drives them.

[cruise4]

I agree. Its fear driving them and the rest is a 'scale' issue.