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mrguitarbear
10-04-2007, 12:37 AM
Article from todays ' Daily Mirror ' (UK) about how our society is beginning to resemble Orwell's novel ' 1984 :
Daily Mirror 9/4/2007 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=1984-comes-true%26method=full%26objectid=18880613%26siteid=89 520-name_page.html)
earthseed
10-04-2007, 03:08 AM
Didn't he have inside info? That's why he is so accurate pardon my ignorance I know of the novel just not much detail of the man behind it.
mrguitarbear
10-04-2007, 03:52 PM
I don't think Orwell had any inside knowledge - ' 1984 ' was meant to be a parody of/warning for the year it was written , 1948. He was just a very intelligent and perceptive guy , he'd sussed out the way things were heading when most couldn't see or simply didn't want to see.
' Animal Farm ' is another classic , a parody of Stalin's Russia but absolutely relevant to Blair's Britain as well , you'll never look at work in the same way again after you've read it.
I read ' Animal Farm ' at school as part of my English course , I wonder if its still part of the curriculum ??? Somehow I doubt it.
hagbard_celine
10-04-2007, 04:04 PM
Article from todays ' Daily Mirror ' (UK) about how our society is beginning to resemble Orwell's novel ' 1984 :
Daily Mirror 9/4/2007 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=1984-comes-true%26method=full%26objectid=18880613%26siteid=89 520-name_page.html)
It's good to see this kind of writing in the mainstream.
Orwell was a very experienced political commentator. I doubt if he had actual inside information, but he was bright enough to deduce the trends towards authoritarianism himself. He was a Marxist-sympathizer who'd seen that philosophy corrupted in the Soviet Union; this was the inspiration for "Animal Farm". He also witnessed the rise of fascism in Germany and Spain; he even went to Spain to fight against Franco. He wrote "1984" while he was terminally ill, locking himself away on a remote Scottish island and dedicating the last year of his life to it. (The only person he allowed near him was the journalist Sonia Brown whom he married from a hospital bed just before his death in Janbuary 1950. Bless him!)
It's good to see this kind of writing in the mainstream.
Orwell was a very experienced political commentator. I doubt if he had actual inside information, but he was bright enough to deduce the trends towards authoritarianism himself. He was a Marxist-sympathizer who'd seen that philosophy corrupted in the Soviet Union; this was the inspiration for "Animal Farm". He also witnessed the rise of fascism in Germany and Spain; he even went to Spain to fight against Franco. He wrote "1984" while he was terminally ill, locking himself away on a remote Scottish island and dedicating the last year of his life to it. (The only person he allowed near him was the journalist Sonia Brown whom he married from a hospital bed just before his death in Janbuary 1950. Bless him!)
thanks, hc
here are a couple of other interesting tidbits
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/NewAge/Huxley.htm
huxley is much in the same vein as orwell, e.g. "brave new world"
draft government report says we will alter human evolution within 20 years by combining what we know of nanotechnology, biotechnology, IT and cognitive sciences. […] Leading to telepathy, machine-to-human communication amplified personal sensory devices and enhanced intellectual capacity. People may download their consciousnesses into computers or other bodies even on the other side of the solar system, or participate in a giant "hive mind", a network of intelligences connected through ultra-fast communications networks. "With knowledge no longer encapsulated in individuals, the distinction between individuals and the entirety of humanity would blur," the report says. "Think Vulcan mind-meld. We would perhaps become more of a hive mind - an enormous, single, intelligent entity." Armies may one day be fielded by machines that think for themselves […] The report says the abilities are within our grasp but will require an intense public-relations effort to "prepare key organisations and societal activities for the changes made possible by converging technologies", and to counter concern over "ethical, legal and moral" issues. Education should be overhauled down to the primary-school level to bridge curriculum gaps between disparate subject areas (Cochrane).
conspiracyarchive.com is chock full o' gems! :)
History has shown us over and over again that every attempt
to create a 'paradise' based on human achievement outside of
Divine will has failed. The inner elite of the Illuminati spoke
much of 'world unity' when actually the only thing that these
socialists were 'united' in was the IDEA that they could reign
with absolute god-like authority over their fellow man. Some
believe that George Orwell learned about their plans for a one-
world dictatorship after visiting Paris, France, where he
observed some of the Illuminati's activities. He exposed some of
their agenda in his book '1984' and was according to one source
later assassinated by them for daring to expose their secrets to
the world (see: THE GEMSTONE FILE, by Dennis Brunnell. Brunnell,
an avowed 'disillusioned' 33rd degree Mason and Grand Master of
the O.T.O. sent several of these reports in the mid-1980's out to
various researchers, although they were never officially
'published' as such. The reports dealt with the research of
Prof. Bruce Roberts who described the CIA-Mafia connection to the
JFK assassination, the Oil Company conspiracies, etc., and
contained additional notations by Brunnell himself on the
Illuminati connection).
http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Aurora/4519/MList/mason-dc.txt
not sure about the above, spurious quote about "brunnell" too; but it is compelling given the way that "newspeak" has gelled in the collective mind.
synergy777
11-04-2007, 07:09 PM
the orwell/huxley vision of britain is here, with all the tavistock programming, the terms such as doublethink/newspeak, opposames, big brother, proles, the media. everything they talked about is here. we just cannot accept it, even though we can see it.
Who controls the past,"' ran the Party slogan, "controls the future: who controls the present controls the past." And yet the past, though of its nature alterable, never had been altered. Whatever was true now was true from everlasting to everlasting. It was quite simple. All that was needed was an unending series of victories over your own memory. "Reality control," they called it; in Newspeak, "doublethink."