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king
09-04-2007, 10:54 PM
we all heard about disinfo agents, haven't we?

what if "disinfo agents" are actually just those who are picked or allowed to disseminate the information to the public view, piece by piece because the time comes when all that is hidden has to be revealed?
And before the new age begins -- old age must be "exposed" so that people who are fed up with old age
willfully decide to make a change. and if that change is as already pre-planed and "only option" wouldn't his be the ultimate P.R.S.?


isn't it logical that if PTBs want humanity to accept say New Age religion and new Masonic/Aquarian Age -- they would have to allow existing religions, existing 'power structure' and existing delusion to be "exposed" by the people rather than attack them directly because then we would be able to see 'unseen hand', a hand that wants to stay hidden, because that is how it always ruled -- by secrecy and invisibility?

more i think of this -- more it becomes obvious that PTBs want just about everything 'exposed'.
I mean, why would discovery channel (PTB's major propaganda channel) be "exposing" illuminati/masons and their agenda if that would expose their precious secrets? Why would Alex Jones be on Faux News exposing NWO, police state, why inform Faux viewers of what Bill O'Rrilley do not want them to know? Why even risk it that Jones can "spill the beans"?

Why would now that masonic stuff be showing up in movies like "National Treasure"?

Why would Illuminati order be "exposed" to such lengths on Internet? Why those who worked for illuminati, who signed oaths in their own blood are now talking about it openly, yet no one is "accidented"?
Everyone keeps on talking and no one is thrown in Jail
or killed!?
I mean, David Icke, Alan Watt, Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion and Alex Jones should be long gone if PTBs were afraid of them, their exposure of illuminati/Masons/NWO etc.

Now, let me tell you why I think that this theory of mine makes sense;
A couple of weeks ago i observed a little girl who watched a children's cartoon.
First unusual thing was a strange looking cartoon character with oversized head that looks like a (contorted) skull-mask, just like a skull in skull and bones flag.

Well, as i observed a young girl that watched that TV character with hypnotic stare i just had a feeling that something was wrong with this cartoon character.

sure thing, within minutes i picked up what that skull really represented, but what was really shocking is that for maybe couple of seconds a pyramid with an all seeing eye appeared, but it appeared on side of the screen slowly rotating, just before the next seen appeared on the TV screen. If you were unaware of symbolism, like many parents are unaware -- you would not even notice it
due to the filtering mechanism in our visual center of brain.

For a while I suspected that PTBs were releasing masonic/illuminati stuff of internet purposefully, but when i saw that thing on the screen -- then it hit me; PTBs want us, but especially our children to know about this stuff, for a reason.

It sure seems to em that "secret illuminati" information is not being hidden from us, but slowly introduced to us.

Another interesting scene in another children's cartoon
with little airplanes who live on an airport corroborate this theory of mine as well;
there is this airport and bunch of toy-like airplanes who have human faces, just like Thomas the train
has a face are able to talk to each other.

there was a scene where one airplane was leaving criss-crossed trails, just like a chemplane would make a checkerboard on the skies.

Yet, a little airplane was taught that those were "smoke trails" that this "special plane" was leaving!
And, need i mention that perfectly resembled chemtrails!

then, minutes later when couple of "adult" airplanes landed -- the control tower was decorated with a masonic tessellated checkerboard, and when airplanes went to their hanger -- there was a wing disc above the front door as well.

so, if they are doing this to children -- "exposing" illuminati and such, then they must be doing it to us, only
by making us think that we are "exposing" them, that we are smart ones figuring this out on our own, that we figured out their secrets that they kept for many millenia.

I would not be surprised if they gave us the internet so that we can "stay informed" and so that "alternative media" can begin to 'spread the truth'.

To me this seems more and more obvious -- they want us to "expose them" simply because there comes time when all of that is hidden must be exposed.
I mean some of the cover ups nowadays are so sloppy that it makes you wonder how can they be so stupid?!

Yet a couple of decades ago -- there were no such stupid mistakes made, not in this amount so that everyone can see it so clearly.

so, maybe that is why no one of those who are "exposing" illuminati died. Only those who were either exposing hoaxes (William Cooper) or who were getting close to major discoveries of free energy (Dr. Eugene Mallow)


So, i think that it is very likely that many are actually helping illuminati agenda by 'exposing' the parts that illuminati want exposed.

that also means that you do not even know who is a real paid-for dis informer and who is doing it because of goodness of their hearts, but those in power actualy
need this to be exposed, before the old age is over.


your thoughts.

mrguitarbear
10-04-2007, 12:14 AM
The NWO is already here , its already in place. We are now being conditioned into accepting it as normal , partly through subliminal messages.

I'm sure that the Illuminati also get off on putting their symbolism in plain sight , very few people understand it and those that do are labelled as cranks or ' conspiracy theorists ' !

Trying to prove anything is the difficult bit - just look at the case of Princess Diana. Whats the betting , despite all the irregularities , that her death gets put down as an accident ? Its only because of Al-Fayed with his power and his money that the case has gone as far as it has.

Big Brother is already here.

mrguitarbear
10-04-2007, 12:31 AM
Another way we are being conditioned to accept a future dystopia is through science-fiction movies , the Terminator series of movies is a case in point especially ' Terminator 3 ' ( James Cameron is a 33rd degree Master Mason ).

Nearly all science-fiction films portray the future as a dark , frightening time of giant corporations and industrial pollution , horrible robots and aliens etc. I think although these films may have started off as a warning , now this vision of the future is being actively promoted to condition people into accepting that ' this is the way its going to be and theres nothing you can do to change it ' so when the future fascist society does arise , there won't be any resistance as we'll all accept its inevitable.

Disinformation only comes into play when someone gets too close to the truth for it to be convinient e.g. with the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.

2013
10-04-2007, 12:36 AM
interesting ideas , yes maybe at some level of the game they play they have to release the info maybe it needs bringing out in order to move to the next phase .I was gonna post this somewhere , here seems as good a place as any .It s from johnathan cainers astrology page ,concerning saturn wich is the ruling palnet of isreal and it got me thinking have we been to saturn oursleves to seee this hexagram ? no didnt think so so we just have to accept what nasa shows us as true !

Jonathan writes: Why am I travelling to Tibet to investigate a prophecy from Mexico? It has something to do with ancient cultures, complicated cosmologies and poignant predictions. On my way north east, I passed through Delhi where there is a temple dedicated to Saturn. Word has not yet reached them there about the newly discovered hexagon at Saturn's North Pole. I, though, have been dwelling on this. The Star of David is hexagonal. Could Saturn have a message about the future of Israel?

or are they just prepping us for it ?:D As above so below .

truthcommission
10-04-2007, 01:16 AM
Disinfo agents don't necessarily have to be on the payroll of organizations such as the US Military, US Government (or any Government of Military for that matter!), Corporations or Masons.

They could be (an individual) part of an agenda of cover-ups and distortion of truth much larger than previously imagined.

The way to root them out is to use the same tactics THEY employ to extract the truth without the torture obviously.

Questions are the answers...

chainbreaker
10-04-2007, 02:26 AM
we all heard about disinfo agents, haven't we?

what if "disinfo agents" are actually just those who are picked or allowed to disseminate the information to the public view, piece by piece because the time comes when all that is hidden has to be revealed?
And before the new age begins -- old age must be "exposed" so that people who are fed up with old age
willfully decide to make a change. and if that change is as already pre-planed and "only option" wouldn't his be the ultimate P.R.S.?


isn't it logical that if PTBs want humanity to accept say New Age religion and new Masonic/Aquarian Age -- they would have to allow existing religions, existing 'power structure' and existing delusion to be "exposed" by the people rather than attack them directly because then we would be able to see 'unseen hand', a hand that wants to stay hidden, because that is how it always ruled -- by secrecy and invisibility?

more i think of this -- more it becomes obvious that PTBs want just about everything 'exposed'.
I mean, why would discovery channel (PTB's major propaganda channel) be "exposing" illuminati/masons and their agenda if that would expose their precious secrets? Why would Alex Jones be on Faux News exposing NWO, police state, why inform Faux viewers of what Bill O'Rrilley do not want them to know? Why even risk it that Jones can "spill the beans"?

Why would now that masonic stuff be showing up in movies like "National Treasure"?

Why would Illuminati order be "exposed" to such lengths on Internet? Why those who worked for illuminati, who signed oaths in their own blood are now talking about it openly, yet no one is "accidented"?
Everyone keeps on talking and no one is thrown in Jail
or killed!?
I mean, David Icke, Alan Watt, Jordan Maxwell, Michael Tsarion and Alex Jones should be long gone if PTBs were afraid of them, their exposure of illuminati/Masons/NWO etc.

Now, let me tell you why I think that this theory of mine makes sense;
A couple of weeks ago i observed a little girl who watched a children's cartoon.
First unusual thing was a strange looking cartoon character with oversized head that looks like a (contorted) skull-mask, just like a skull in skull and bones flag.

Well, as i observed a young girl that watched that TV character with hypnotic stare i just had a feeling that something was wrong with this cartoon character.

sure thing, within minutes i picked up what that skull really represented, but what was really shocking is that for maybe couple of seconds a pyramid with an all seeing eye appeared, but it appeared on side of the screen slowly rotating, just before the next seen appeared on the TV screen. If you were unaware of symbolism, like many parents are unaware -- you would not even notice it
due to the filtering mechanism in our visual center of brain.

For a while I suspected that PTBs were releasing masonic/illuminati stuff of internet purposefully, but when i saw that thing on the screen -- then it hit me; PTBs want us, but especially our children to know about this stuff, for a reason.

It sure seems to em that "secret illuminati" information is not being hidden from us, but slowly introduced to us.

Another interesting scene in another children's cartoon
with little airplanes who live on an airport corroborate this theory of mine as well;
there is this airport and bunch of toy-like airplanes who have human faces, just like Thomas the train
has a face are able to talk to each other.

there was a scene where one airplane was leaving criss-crossed trails, just like a chemplane would make a checkerboard on the skies.

Yet, a little airplane was taught that those were "smoke trails" that this "special plane" was leaving!
And, need i mention that perfectly resembled chemtrails!

then, minutes later when couple of "adult" airplanes landed -- the control tower was decorated with a masonic tessellated checkerboard, and when airplanes went to their hanger -- there was a wing disc above the front door as well.

so, if they are doing this to children -- "exposing" illuminati and such, then they must be doing it to us, only
by making us think that we are "exposing" them, that we are smart ones figuring this out on our own, that we figured out their secrets that they kept for many millenia.

I would not be surprised if they gave us the internet so that we can "stay informed" and so that "alternative media" can begin to 'spread the truth'.

To me this seems more and more obvious -- they want us to "expose them" simply because there comes time when all of that is hidden must be exposed.
I mean some of the cover ups nowadays are so sloppy that it makes you wonder how can they be so stupid?!

Yet a couple of decades ago -- there were no such stupid mistakes made, not in this amount so that everyone can see it so clearly.

so, maybe that is why no one of those who are "exposing" illuminati died. Only those who were either exposing hoaxes (William Cooper) or who were getting close to major discoveries of free energy (Dr. Eugene Mallow)


So, i think that it is very likely that many are actually helping illuminati agenda by 'exposing' the parts that illuminati want exposed.

that also means that you do not even know who is a real paid-for dis informer and who is doing it because of goodness of their hearts, but those in power actualy
need this to be exposed, before the old age is over.


your thoughts.

They buy time to get things done. If I could keep you irgnorant to an array of facts which would ring your alarm by showing you those very facts disguised as something they are not, you will accept them for what you think they are until you know other wise. This is what is being done.

Any readily available info which has the ultimate potential to cripple operation will have to be muddled in every weak spot and then released by the perpertraitors themselves disguised as a truth before the masses find out the complete unedited stories. This way confusion is circulated and spread buying more time and armour for their operations, its really that easy. Not only confusion, insanity, paranoia and any unsavory circumstance is created for vulnerable in these situations. Mass mind manipulation is in full effect as mass comunicating items have always been used to achieve, never sticking to a specific theorey for ever, therefore leaving all facts soulable in the minds of the public. Thats a loophole they have created to cleverley flip our minds like an ever changing coin without us knowing were being spun around like idiots.

And of course the NWO is here, The UN and NATO have been established for quite a while and these are the one world government and army we have read about, although its predictable the names could change to somthing more to their liking somewhere down the track when possible.

Seems like theres no point in even wasting time with all these shananagans of our lives but, something in our minds sticks each and every one of us like glue to these issues and that, is something to die for. Personally prefering peace and happiness for myself and my future generation to come i feel obliged completley to be doing so, no not just sitting here conversing over coffee forever, but digging through the shit our minds, fellow minds and emotions are being put through to get that 50 50 plan of a true liberation of covert opression

cleft_asunder
10-04-2007, 02:55 AM
I'm sure that the Illuminati also get off on putting their symbolism in plain sight

Big Brother is already here.

Sometimes the best way to hide something is to put it into plain view. They know this, and so they release Discovery channel documentaries so that the masses --not people like you and me-- discount the possibility of the conspiracy. Discovery channel documentaries convince NO ONE that there is a conspiracy. The reason is because all the information is spoon-fed to the viewer, and it is NOTHING like genuine effortful research. So the viewer, after viewing the program, is left in a state where he or she can't really confirm anything, unlike someone who went out and read books, and articles, and did genuine thinking about the subject.

I wish someone could help me on this, but essentially when you watch the Discovery channel Illuminati documentary, it's as if not even I believe it. It's too... pre-packaged. It makes too much sense in one dose. I mean, how can you really cover the conspiracy in an hour? You know? You can't convince anyone of anything in an hour.

And to the original poster, I read your post and I understand your point quite well. Despite what I just said about the documentary, the Illuminati are 100% definitely coming out in the open. Much can be written as to why, and all I can say is that it's difficult to know exactly what is going on. It could be an awakening --Matrix or REAL awakeing-- forcing them to expose themselves to reduce damage. It could be all part of their plan. I just don't know.

earthseed
10-04-2007, 03:13 AM
Well they keep calling this time the time of revealing. But, just because this consciousness shows lower parts of itself who it really is doesn't mean it will go away. I can see it getting everyone to free will it into continued existence. I'm still wondering how oneness that David talks about is going to take it down. Which is probably good because even though I seek outside of this I am still apart of it.

truthcommission
10-04-2007, 03:27 AM
The reason is because all the information is spoon-fed to the viewer, and it is NOTHING like genuine effortful research.
Hi cleft.

Good analysis. This is a well known smoke and mirrors trick. Here are the ingredients.

1 Part Truth
2 Part Lies
Plenty of Water (To water down the truth)
Artificial Sweetener (To mask the bitterness of the lies)
Food Color (To make it look good)

Mix all the ingredients together until they blend well and you cannot tell truth from lies. Then spoon-fed to your bewildered viewer. All the while telling them what they are eating (seeing) is good.

cleft_asunder
10-04-2007, 06:52 AM
Hi cleft.

Good analysis. This is a well known smoke and mirrors trick. Here are the ingredients.

1 Part Truth
2 Part Lies
Plenty of Water (To water down the truth)
Artificial Sweetener (To mask the bitterness of the lies)
Food Color (To make it look good)

Mix all the ingredients together until they blend well and you cannot tell truth from lies. Then spoon-fed to your bewildered viewer. All the while telling them what they are eating (seeing) is good.

Yup.

king
10-04-2007, 09:59 PM
Another way we are being conditioned to accept a future dystopia is through science-fiction movies , the Terminator series of movies is a case in point especially ' Terminator 3 ' ( James Cameron is a 33rd degree Master Mason ).

Nearly all science-fiction films portray the future as a dark , frightening time of giant corporations and industrial pollution , horrible robots and aliens etc. I think although these films may have started off as a warning , now this vision of the future is being actively promoted to condition people into accepting that ' this is the way its going to be and theres nothing you can do to change it ' so when the future fascist society does arise , there won't be any resistance as we'll all accept its inevitable.

Disinformation only comes into play when someone gets too close to the truth for it to be convinient e.g. with the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon.

i'd say you are right on the money, because i noticed the same thing -- a future that looks more like the hell than anything else.

and, all of the illuminati/hollywood films basicaly portray the same thing; loss of self awayness/spirit, merging of humanity with machine world (transhumanism) and rule by mega fascist corporations that ARE the government of the future.

i cannot remember that any of those movies was dealing with spirituality and technology that serves humanity.

in these movies they are ALWAYS creating a cold, machine-like 'future' world for us.





Any readily available info which has the ultimate potential to cripple operation will have to be muddled in every weak spot and then released by the perpertraitors themselves disguised as a truth before the masses find out the complete unedited stories. This way confusion is circulated and spread buying more time and armour for their operations, its really that easy. Not only confusion, insanity, paranoia and any unsavory circumstance is created for vulnerable in these situations. Mass mind manipulation is in full effect as mass comunicating items have always been used to achieve, never sticking to a specific theorey for ever, therefore leaving all facts soulable in the minds of the public. Thats a loophole they have created to cleverley flip our minds like an ever changing coin without us knowing were being spun around like idiots.

And of course the NWO is here, The UN and NATO have been established for quite a while and these are the one world government and army we have read about, although its predictable the names could change to somthing more to their liking somewhere down the track when possible.


yes, i noticed that PTBs lead those people who believe mainstream media by the noose. Anytime PTBs try to ‘explain’ some question to those people who are unable to think for themselves and who look in mainstream media for answers -- more questions are raised, so that next time yet another dose of programming, or shall i say “download” is pushed onto people’s minds.
Kind of like the software upgrades.
in a sense, PTBs make those people who would like to learn the truth but who are afraid to disconnect from mainstream media tit dependant for that next “download” of “information” that is suppose to “answer questions”





Sometimes the best way to hide something is to put it into plain view. They know this, and so they release Discovery channel documentaries so that the masses --not people like you and me-- discount the possibility of the conspiracy. Discovery channel documentaries convince NO ONE that there is a conspiracy. The reason is because all the information is spoon-fed to the viewer, and it is NOTHING like genuine effortful research. So the viewer, after viewing the program, is left in a state where he or she can't really confirm anything, unlike someone who went out and read books, and articles, and did genuine thinking about the subject.

I wish someone could help me on this, but essentially when you watch the Discovery channel Illuminati documentary, it's as if not even I believe it. It's too... pre-packaged. It makes too much sense in one dose. I mean, how can you really cover the conspiracy in an hour? You know? You can't convince anyone of anything in an hour.

And to the original poster, I read your post and I understand your point quite well. Despite what I just said about the documentary, the Illuminati are 100% definitely coming out in the open. Much can be written as to why, and all I can say is that it's difficult to know exactly what is going on. It could be an awakening --Matrix or REAL awakeing-- forcing them to expose themselves to reduce damage. It could be all part of their plan. I just don't know.



I am glad that i am not the only one who can see this and that many others picked up this thing too.
i must not be crazy after all
LOL

yes, that thing about discovery channel is exactly what i noticed;
A: no questions are answered
B: more questions are raised
C: no real secrets are uncovered.

And, the real secrets are not so much who did what and when but HOW we were and still are MANIPULATED,
because if we know HOW the trick is being pulled on us -- the spell that we are under will be broken in a hurry.

I am glad that other people see that illuminati are coming out on open, and just like you -- I am not exactly sure WHY, but
i guess if you want to change the system you need to make old one obsolete and useless and you need to have buy-in of those
who are subjects of that old system so that they will begin to accept new system .

thanks everyone for great feedback!