View Full Version : I'm the Knight of Cups
somethinganonymous
09-05-2008, 11:17 AM
Wow! I remember in another thread on this forum (think maybe it was in the general section, can't remember) about a left-right brain test, where I was asked to select a few "answers" to some questions, and the 'test' would tell me which one of my brain-halves are the most dominant and how that might relate to my personality. Well, the test in itself was very accurate, but quite small... Now, I took a tarot reading on an internet site, and my astrological card, and my personality card was that of the Knight of Cups. It didn't say much about me, apart from what I would expect this day (which was, incidentally spot on, it said I would do nothing, lol:) Anyway, I googled the term Knight of Cups, and to my great surprise, I found a page detailing my personality down to the smallest significance. I was quite shocked, I mean, is my personality decided by the stars?? And I can't write it off either, because it iss all true... Here's a copy and paste of my personality:
Romantic.....Overemotional
idealizes love..........lacks self-restraint
emphasizes feelings..........is often jealous
concentrates on the poetry of life..........tends to be gushy and melodramatic
remembers special occasions..........blows hot and cold in affections
expresses sentiments beautifully..........brings flowers, but forgets to put gas in the car
Imaginative..........Fanciful
can tap the fertile unconscious..........indulges in idle daydreams
looks beyond the obvious..........has big ideas that come to nothing
never takes the mundane path..........has an unrealistic approach
spins marvelous tales..........has an overactive imagination
is visionary..........can shade the truth
Sensitive..........Temperamental
is aware of moods and feelings..........is prone to mood swings
helps others open up..........can be petulant and sulky
responds deeply to life..........gels melancholy and depressed
understands the pains of others..........broods excessively
is tactful and diplomatic..........takes offense easily
Refined..........Over-refined
appreciates beauty in all forms..........leaves dirty work to others
seeks the finest..........can't face unpleasantness
creates a pleasing environment..........lacks robust good health
understands subtlety..........emphasizes style over substance
is suave and gracious..........gets overwhelmed by pressure
Introspective..........Introverted
values the inner life..........focuses inward to excess
tries to understand why..........avoids active participation
questions motivations..........is driven to self-examination
seeks self-improvement..........exaggerates personal failings
sees below the surface..........can't relax around others
I've bolded the ones that are praticularly true... That's parctically everything! And the stuff I haven't bolded is probably something that I will come to integrate in my personality, if it isn't allready there, and I'm being blind to the obvious. This stuff actually starts to scare me...
wounded dragon
07-02-2011, 01:39 AM
will try to get back to you
wounded dragon
09-02-2011, 05:08 AM
I only have limited time today here but if i cannot complete the whole of my info from my book of tarot mythology, i will try to come back to complete soon for you
first up, you mentioned you were a little scared, and the king of cups tale is not such a pretty one but know that knowledge will come undone and prophecies change (see chapter thirteen Corintians in an older bible as the chapter on faith hope charity has been removed from recent editions of the bible)
Here, in the card of the king of cups, we meet the active, dynamic dimension, of water, which overtly seeks to form relationships and even to guide and to help others. This is embodied in the mythic figure of orpheus, the singer, who was both priest and healer, yet whose own story is sad and lonely although he brought comfort to his fellows. Orpheus was the son of the thracian king oeagrus and the muse calliope, and he was the most famous poet and musician who ever lived. Apollo (who tricked hades out of the gifts of prophecy and music and also stole the sun and perhaps more from the highest goddess) presented him with a lyre and the muses taught him its use, so that he not only enchanted the wild beasts, but made even the trees and rocks move from their places to follow the sound of his music. He joined the argonaughts on their quest for the golden fleece, and his music helped them to overcome many difficulties. On his return he married eurydice and settled in thrace.
But his life was not destined to be happy, one day a man tried to assault eurydice in the valley of the river peneius and she trod on a serpent as she fled, and died of its bite. But orpheus boldy descended into the underworld hoping to fetch her back. He not only charmed the ferryman charron, the three headed dog cereberus and the three judges of the dead with his plaintive music, but temporarily suspended the tortures of the damned and so far soothed the dark heart of hades that he won leave to restore eurydice to the upper world. But hades made one condition, that orpheus must not look back until she was safely back in the light of the sun. Eurydice followed orpheus up through the dark passages guided by the sound of his lyre. But at the last moment he lost his trust and looked back to see whether she was still there, and so he lost her forever. After this orpheus took up the role of a priest teaching the mysteries and preaching the evils of sacrificial murder to the people of thrace. But the god dionysis grew jealous of him because his fame spread and men began to worship him as though he were divine. The god set his man maenads upon orpheus and they tore him to pieces in their frenzy, the muses tearfully collected his limbs and buried him at the foot of mount olympus where the nightingales now sing more sweetly than anywhere else in the world. Orpheus the king of cups is an image of the wounded healer the figure who through compassion and empathy can heal others yet who cannot heal his own hurt in the realm of the heart. In many ways he is the ancient equivalent of many modern social workers and pyschotherapists; the individual who longs to be in touch with the world of healing and tries constantly to help others relate, yet who sometimes lacks trust in his or her own personal life and therefore cannot ultimately achieve the fulfilling relationship which is so desired. The king of cups places human relatationship and human love above everything, and will go to great lengths to intitiate and preserve this emotional contact. Yet he remains curiously uncomfortable, and must keep looking back to see whether what he has intiated is still behind him, still intact, thus he often loses the very thing which he most desires. This figure is deeply paradoxical, as though the element of water - which is in many ways an image of the feminine world of feeling - sits uncomfortably with the masculine and dynamic image of the king. The two are awkward together and create a strange ambivilance. The king of cups is a moody and sensitive figure, an often gifted with a great depth of feeling and a rare gift at communicating to affect and influence others. But this is the relationship of performer to audience. He himself never quite relinquishes control. It is for this reason that dionyso's maenads, the crowd of ecstatic women who follow in the gods train dismember him for in a sense he must first be powerless and metaphorically torn to pieces before he can be something other than the wise counselor to other peoples pain. Orpheus himself has no real fulfillment in life having forfeited his own chance of personal happiness through his mistrust of hades word, this in its self tells us a good deal about the king of cups , for although he may initiate relationship and talk constantly of it he does not ultimately trust the world of the unconcious, which he cannot see. Thus he is enthroned near the water but cannot submerge himself in it, for he fears the drowning which letting go to another might entail.
as mentioned prophecies change and also some of them are true tales and some parts may have been re written
<3
somethinganonymous
09-02-2011, 01:47 PM
Thanks. That was a interesting read. Much appriciated.
Edit: <3 :)
stipey
09-02-2011, 02:20 PM
the regular cards are way more detailed then the tarot,
I'm a Jack of clubs/4 of hearts..;)
check out the book-Cards of your destiny
wounded dragon
09-02-2011, 11:25 PM
Aswell as being Helen Queen of Cups (hearts), i am Psyche (cups), Justice, Ace of Swords and High Priestess Persephone and perhaps others, mostly i am water... i am also Arethusa who is not in tarot i believe and i believe i may also be Hera although nothing i have read or heard of her so far rings true other than that she is source, i am Sleeping Beauty, Snow White and Alice in Wonderl and Tiamat.... don't believe most of what you read LOL
I think you may find if you are king of cups that you may also relate to Paris who is another figure in mythological Tarot, have not the time now to tell more, but i will attempt to get back to you with a little on Paris.... i am in a psyche ward and bewitched c you soon bye bye
wounded dragon
26-02-2011, 09:24 AM
I typed about the king of cups rather han of the knight of cups
I will have to get back to you about it when my time on the computer is not so limited
Hopes you realised it was not your story and didn't bring about confusion
:o
wounded dragon
28-02-2011, 03:11 AM
Here, in the card of the Knight of Cups, we meet the volatile, sensitive, changeable dimension of the element of water, which like the stream is full of life and always moving.
This is embodied by the mythic figure of Perseus, who is motivated on all his adventures by his love of women, and must on his journeys confront the many faces of the feminine, both light and dark, before he can be united with his love.
Perseus was the son of Zeus by a mortal woman Danae. Danaes father Acrisius had been warned by the Delphic Oracle that his daughter would bear a son that would kill him, so he shut Danae and her infant up in a chest which he cast into the sea. Protected by the water dieties, they were washed onshore at Seriphos and taken under the protection of King Polydectes. But Polydectes fell in love with Danae, and pursude her all the years of Perseus' childhood and adolescence. Evebtually Polydectes resolved to kill Perseus because the young man opposed the match, believing his mother deserved more. So the king therefore sent the young man on an apparently hopeless quest, to obtain the head of the terrible gorgon Medusa.
Perseus was favoured by goddesses each step of the way. The Graeae three crones who shared only the one eye between them and who knew the secrets of the future, told him where to find the she monster and Athenen provided the young hero with a magic shield. Thus Perseus was able to slay the gorgon by watchngher reflection in the mirror of the shield, in order to protect his mother. He took the head of the gorgon with him and on his way back to Seriphos he passed through ethiopia, and had to rescue the beautiful maiden Andromeda from the clutches of a sea monster. HE killed the monster, freed the girl, and married her. Then he returned to Seriphos, Killed Polyeces who meanwhile had attempted to assault Danae, and set forth with his mother and his bride to the place of his birth, where his grandfather Acrisius had once tried to murder him. Although he did not deliberately seek vengeance against Acrisius, he accidentally killed him, and thus became the king of argus. But the place held sad memories for him, so he travelled to Tiryns where he founded a glorius house.
Perseus, the knight of cups, is an image of the true romantic spirit, the champion of women in distress, the worshiper of love, beauty and truth, and the defender of high ideals who ceaselessly searches for that perfect love which ultimately exists only in the spirit yet which always seems around the next corner in the next beloved. The Romantic spirit of the knight of cups embodies all that is gentle, idealistic, and kind, although he is not a weak character and is capable of sacrificing everything in the name of his ideal or his beloved. This is in a sense a picture of the state of being 'in love' an experience which every realist may claim dies rapidly with the familiarity of marriage, children and family obligations, but which every romantic believescan and ought to remain forever. When it does not, the knight of cups may move on, still seeking the ultimate experience of holy love. The holyness of the knight of cups (hearts) does not of course, preclude sex. But sexual relationships for this figure must be blended with love and a kind of ecstacy of the spirit. "Mere" bodily satisfaction does not interest him. Historically, the ideals of courtly love which flourished in the middle ages reflect the spirit of the Knight of Cups. The young knight always worshipped his beloved from afar, he would not sully her with base desires, but wrote poetry to her and offered his life to protect her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Epgo8ixX6Wo&playnext=1&list=PLAC5E9F890062E18A
Perseus is different from other heroes precisely because of this high idealism and worship of women.Unlike such figures as Heracles, who meets his challenges because he is attempting to expiate a sin, or Theseus, who meets them because they are exciting, Perseus follows his fate because of love ~ primarily at first, love of his mother. This quality of worshipping and idealizing the mother is characteristic of the knight of cups, for despite his strength he kneels at the feet of a queen ~ a woman higher and more powerful than he. The qualityof love represented by the Knight of Cups often contains this element of worshipping someone before whom one feels slightly unworthy ~ or someone who already has a husband. It is not yet a love of eqauls, that we must meet later in the queen and king of cups. But it is in its fashion, love, and should not be mocked as adolescent or immature. Without the knight of cups, we would live in a bleak and colourless world indeed.
:)
somethinganonymous
14-03-2011, 04:27 PM
I typed about the king of cups rather han of the knight of cups
I will have to get back to you about it when my time on the computer is not so limited
Hopes you realised it was not your story and didn't bring about confusion
:o
you wrote so much about the king of cups that I didn't want to mention it Anyway, thanks!
somethinganonymous
14-03-2011, 04:34 PM
This was a great read Somewhat reminded me of myself Thanks
wounded dragon
15-03-2011, 09:01 AM
This was a great read Somewhat reminded me of myself Thanks
* hugs *, you may find your story fits other mythical or 'fictional' archetypes, the archetype may have been written because you are he or because you are unfluenced by others who are him and you are at a stage in your journey where you will be developing his qualities along your path, glad you enjoyed the read *
somethinganonymous
15-03-2011, 11:44 AM
* hugs *, you may find your story fits other mythical or 'fictional' archetypes, the archetype may have been written because you are he or because you are unfluenced by others who are him and you are at a stage in your journey where you will be developing his qualities along your path, glad you enjoyed the read *
*gives you a big bear hug*
wounded dragon
29-03-2011, 12:49 PM
have you noticed that it is kinda funny to call yourself 'somethinganonymous' while you are announcing that you are Knight of Cups :)
somethinganonymous
30-03-2011, 06:57 PM
have you noticed that it is kinda funny to call yourself 'somethinganonymous' while you are announcing that you are Knight of Cups :)
haha, not only that, but I'm paranoid, so everyone knows who I am...:)