Brown's Role Is To Lose - all as planned

[sukyspook]

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess." Matthew 23:25
To read the expose of the money lenders/nwo read Matthew 23 at www.biblegateway.com

And we are now supposed to rush off to the polling station and vote for St David....

Only the facade has changed, the content (ie money=control) remains the same.....sadly.

Here's visual proof of neo labour's failure to protect the citizens of England in particular but UK in general - please note that in the shot of Tony and Cherie near the beginning, the policeman on duty in the centre of shot is wearing a shirt - that's right - a shirt and NO stab proof vest....later on the police outside No 10 are wearing more tabards than protective vests - proof also that the Conservatives were already introducing the appearance of a police state into this once thriving country. John Major then went on to become European manager of the Carlyle Group ie Bush/Bin Laden private equity company until after 911 2001....Bush then stepped down but Major was still there in 2005. Search MOD/Qinetiq/Carlyle and well, just follow the money.

2008, eleven years later and I was the victim of an assault yesterday in broad daylight (2.30pm) which was attended by two armed response policeman looking for all the world like riot police but in navy blue summer shirts.....

I later discovered that even the lovely policewoman who came to take my statement was from the same unit and usually carries a taser....

Following on from the video is an article from 2000 in which Gordon Brown sets out his vision for the country, against which he, like Bliar has committed treason, as have many 'politicians' of all persuasions before and no doubt following them:

Blair arrives at Downing Street after his 1997 landslide victory - mainly as a result of the take-down of Major's government also as per the script. Are we expected to provide jubilant scenes when Cameron arrives at number 10?? - as planned:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ui_YVew5rNU


May 2 1997 - Blair visits the Queen - see the policewoman on horseback - dressed in shirt - no stab proof vest. David Dimbleby discusses Blair's agenda which was to be "more radical than people think" - and that Blair's landslide could be seen as an "anti Tory victory", as yesterday's 'victory' by the tories was an anti-labour victory. In other words "the king is dead, long live the king"....
Interesting insight on the Cabinet swearing alliegance to the Privvy Council from Jim Callaghan...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_0fpNdfpQgU&feature=related


Gordon Brown's speech to Conference 25th September 2000 on the subject of The Economy:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2000/sep/25/labourconference.labour6

"Let me say first of all: it is because since 1997 we have put our Labour values and our priorities into action that Britain has greater economic stability, rising investment in health, education and our public services, a national minimum wage for the first time, and the lowest unemployment for a generation.

And here in Brighton today, again speaking the language of priorities, I want to discuss with this conference and, from this conference, to discuss with the British people the economic challenges our country still faces. The difficulties we must still surmount, the new world pressures we now have to tackle and the long term choices we as a country have to make on the future of our economy, the future of public spending, the future of pensions and the future of taxes

Choices that we must make by heeding the call of principle and hearing the voices of the people as we listen and, as is our ambition and duty, to put ourselves at the service of the hard working people of Britain.

And I want the message to go out from Brighton this afternoon that if we, the Labour party, make the case for our values; and if by our service we show the British people we are worthy of trust then we can aim higher, and in our time and generation build a Britain of full employment. One where there is educational opportunity for all. A Britain where we abolish child and pensioner poverty, create a safe environment for all our children and show that the best health service for each of us is a national health service run for all of us.

A Britain where, true to our values, not just a few people but everyone has the chance to fulfil their potential and share in national prosperity.

In 1997 we said that the future depended upon first building strong and long term foundations for economic stability.

We all remember the early 90s.

It was Britain's hard working families -the one million who lost jobs in manufacturing, the one million businesses that went under, the million homeowners with negative equity. It was hard working families who paid the price and bore the brunt of economic failure. And by 1997 with the deficit nearly 30 billion, the national debt doubled, debt payments bigger than the schools budget, inflation rising, and the economy on the way back to the old familiar cycle of boom and bust, we resolved to, and under Tony Blair had the strength to, take difficult long term decisions

Bank of England independence. Tough controls on public spending. The difficult decision to raise fuel taxes. The decision to pay back debt and cut the costs of debt.

Breaking from the chronic and flawed Conservative short-termism and implementing Labour values; planning for the long-term; economic responsibility; building from strong foundations. Determined to protect hard working families from a return to boom and bust.

So it is not by accident, but by our actions, that we now have the lowest inflation for over 30 years and around the lowest long term interest rates for 35 years, and a mortgage bill on average £1,000 lower than under Tory interest rates.

And it is not by default but by design that unemployment among men is the lowest since 1980, unemployment among women the lowest since 1976, long term unemployment now the lowest since the 1970s, youth unemployment now the lowest since 1975. For the first time in years, unemployment among single parents and the disabled is now falling, as we make the right to work a reality. And I am determined that no one is excluded.

And because we have cut the costs of unemployment and debt, it is not by coincidence, but by choice that we are now tackling the long-term neglect of under investment in Britain and spending on health is rising by 7 per cent, education this year by 10 per cent and public investment in Britain is rising this year by 30 per cent, years of Tory underinvestment now replaced by a Labour plan for sustained long term investment.

These things did not just happen. The priorities and tough decisions of a Labour government made them happen.

And it is precisely because we have taken the time and trouble to build the long term foundation for success, precisely because we have resisted short term lurches in policy, that we can today steer a course of stability at a time of uncertainty in the world economy without putting growth at risk.

So we will not return to the old short-termism.

There will be no sudden lurches in tax or spending policy.

And there will be no irresponsible pre-election sprees or pay demands that put youth jobs or any jobs at risk. No change in our policy on Europe, support in principle for the single currency, in practise the five tests that have to be met. And no relaxing our fiscal rules.

We will not put hard won economic stability at risk. No return to short-termism. No return to Tory boom and bust."

read the rest (long) at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2000/sep/25/labourconference.labour6

"All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players"....Wm Shakespeare - or was it Francis Bacon. . .

Ladies and gentlemen - the exits are now open and it's time time to leave the Globe (-get it?) theatre....it's up to each and every one of us - before it's too late.

ps - for good measure and to show how unbiased I am (!) - here's a page of Gordon's new world order speeches:
http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=Gordon+Brown+new+world+order&search_type=&aq=f

Now I REALLY know what that phrase: "the king is dead, long live the king" means!

[sukyspook]

TLDR yet.. but I will return to read it all .. I just thought I would leave an opinion on the opening title.. only cause I agree with it!. Brown is deliberately losing and allowing parliament to push any bill they want with an un elected PM... this is why it seems obvious Cameron is the new Blair to follow on from Blair, brown is just the shit piece filling the gap with his penguin wife [sorry she walks funny!]

Thanks for the response - I had to write something this morning as I'm all fired up after current bizarre global events literally hit me in the face yesterday.

Cheers

[sukyspook]

forgive me if I'm being presumptuous .. you may not be one of what I am about to describe.. Anyone waking up at the moment has a really hard time to the point if they don't realize it's an awakening, they could be and most probably will be put on drugs by a doctor for bipolar/manic depression... basically wanting you dumbed down a little longer.
If you happen to be one of those currently saying ''FFS the conspiracy nutters aren't all nutters.. there's more truths than what the politicians are saying''... [lets face it, the only agenda you can blame a conspiracy researcher on is selling more books].. then this is normal as it's happening to a lot of people right now.
Anyone who is currently re-awakening back to human being, then I commend your bravery as it is without argument a lot harder now than it was a year ago... a lot more to take in.,.. and you will be at first subject to a lot of ridicule and put downs from those you once respected [this will pass].


Yes, it's difficult to know who is at what stage of awakening.

Briefly I have always been 'partially' awake - and have always known that something is very wrong with 'reality' as we're supposed to perceive it. I tried to get involved in politics in 2003 but found that 'they have all the exits covered'. 911 was the final straw in my wake up process....then the lies of Iraq, Afghanistan etc etc etc

'The system' has been hijacked - you probably know by who/what. We have to remove the bad and replace with goodness, truth, true justice, wisdom and compassion....

My 'raison d'etre' is The Truth of all things for the benefit of all.

The time for staying silent is way past.

[girthgirl]

Good thread!!!!!!!!!

But i still have a feeling in my bones that Milliband will be the next P.M!!!
I may be wrong but just a gut feeling!!!!!

[sukyspook]

Good thread!!!!!!!!!

But i still have a feeling in my bones that Milliband will be the next P.M!!!
I may be wrong but just a gut feeling!!!!!

Ah yes, Milliband.....career politician, presumably 'discovered' at Uni a la blair.....just look at his father....

from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Miliband

Early life

[edit] Family

Born in London, David Miliband is the elder son of Polish-born Marion Kozak and the late Belgian-born Marxist theoretician Ralph Miliband.

Both David's paternal grandparents lived in the Jewish quarter of Warsaw, before his grandfather, Samuel Miliband, joined the Red Army in the Polish-Soviet War, and after the war moved to Belgium. Hitler’s invasion of Belgium in May 1940 as part of the Nazis’ Western Offensive split the Miliband family in half: Ralph and father Samuel fled to England, while Ralph’s mother Renée and baby sister Nan stayed behind for the duration of the war. They were not reunited until 1950.[2]

[edit] Education

David Miliband was educated at schools in London, Benton Park School in Leeds and Boston, Massachusetts before being educated at Haverstock Comprehensive School in North London, where he obtained a Grade 'D' in Physics A-level, and 3 Grade 'B's.[3] He was admitted to Corpus Christi College, Oxford, where he got a first in Philosophy, Politics and Economics. He then took a S.M. degree in Political Science in 1990 at MIT, where he was a Kennedy Scholar.

[edit] Policy advisor

As a child, his first career ambition was to be a bus conductor.[4] His actual first job was for the National Council for Voluntary Organisations. From 1989-94 he worked as a Research Fellow and policy analyst at the Institute for Public Policy Research and from 1992-4 was Secretary of the Commission on Social Justice. In 1994 Miliband became Tony Blair's Head of Policy and was a major contributor to Labour's manifesto for the 1997 general election. After Labour's victory in that election, Blair made him the de facto Head of the Prime Minister's Policy Unit, a position which he held until the 2001 election. He was given the nickname "Brains" by Alastair Campbell, after the Thunderbirds character.[5]

[edit] Member of Parliament

In the 2001 general election he was elected to Parliament for the Labour stronghold of South Shields.

After a year as a backbench MP he was appointed as Schools Minister, a junior minister in the Department for Education and Skills in June 2002. On 15 December 2004, in the reshuffle following the resignation of David Blunkett, he replaced Ruth Kelly as a Cabinet Office Minister.

Others are touting Ed Balls to be next neo labour leader - adviser to bliar and attendee at Bilderberg since 2003 - Balls, like Milliband is a 'Kennedy scholar' and deeply involved with the Fabian Society ie socialist/fascist neo labour 'think tank'.....

Ed Balls from wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ed_balls

snip

Early life

Born in Norwich he was educated at the independent Nottingham High School and Keble College, Oxford where he studied PPE, and later as a Kennedy Scholar at Harvard University. He joined the Labour Party at the age of 16 but while at Oxford joined all the main political societies so that he could "hear all the speeches at all the political clubs" [1]. His career began as economic leader writer at the Financial Times (1990–94) followed by his appointment as an economic adviser to the then shadow chancellor Gordon Brown (1994–97). In 1995, in a speech written for Gordon Brown to give to an economics conference, he managed to insert the jargon phrase "post neoclassical endogenous growth theory"[2]. This was later gleefully recounted by Michael Heseltine, who coined the humorous quip: "It's not Brown's - it's Balls'."[3]

[edit] Member of Parliament

As Labour swept to power in the General Election of 1997 he continued as an economic adviser to Brown, who was now Chancellor. He then served as chief economic adviser to HM Treasury from 1999 to 2004, in which post he was once named the most powerful unelected person in Britain.

In July 2004 he was selected to stand as Labour and Co-operative candidate for the parliamentary seat of Normanton in West Yorkshire, a Labour stronghold whose MP, Bill O'Brien, retired. He stepped down as chief economic adviser to the Treasury, but was given a position at the Smith Institute, a political think tank with extremely close ties to Gordon Brown. He was reportedly paid £100,000 for less than a year's work.[4] The Smith Institute is currently subject to its second Charity Commission investigation in five years regarding suspected breaches of the rules governing the impartiality of charitable organisations.[5]

In the 2005 general election he was elected MP for Normanton with a majority of 10,002 and 51.2% of the vote. The West Yorkshire seat has been occupied by Labour MPs for longer than any other constituency in the United Kingdom. It is, however, scheduled to disappear before the next election under the latest changes proposed by the Boundary Commission. Balls ran a campaign, in connection with the local newspaper the Wakefield Express, to save the seat and, together with the three other Wakefield MPs (his wife Yvette Cooper, Mary Creagh and Jon Trickett), fought an unsuccessful High Court challenge against the Boundary Commission's proposals.

In March 2007 he was selected to be the Labour Party candidate for the new Morley and Outwood constituency, which contains part of the abolished Normanton constituency and part of Colin Challen's current Morley and Rothwell constituency. In return for giving way it was rumoured Gordon Brown offered Challen a job on an environmental think tank as well as a possible Lordship.[6][7] Balls became Economic Secretary to the Treasury, a junior ministerial position in HM Treasury, in the Government reshuffle of May 2006.

Balls has played a prominent role in the Fabian Society, the think-tank and political society founded in 1884 which helped to found the Labour Party in 1900 and which is affiliated to the party but an independent democratically-constituted society. He published a 1992 Fabian pamphlet advocating Bank of England independence. Balls was elected Vice-Chair of the Fabian Society for 2006 and Chair of the Fabian Society for 2007. As Chair, he opened the Fabian Society's New Year Conference 'The Next Decade' [8] in January 2007, at which Gordon Brown was the keynote speaker. As Vice-Chair of the Fabian Society, he launched the Fabian Life Chances Commission [9] report in April 2006 and opened the Society's Next Decade lecture series[10] in November 2006, arguing for closer European cooperation on the environment. Balls had previously been seen as being a eurosceptic, in Labour party terms, because of his opposition to the euro and the EU constitution.

Balls has been a central figure in New Labour's economic reform agenda. But he and Gordon Brown have differed from the Blairites in being keen to stress their roots in Labour party intellectual traditions such as Fabianism and the co-operative movement as well as their modernising credentials in policy and electoral terms. In a New Statesman interview with Martin Bright in March 2006 [11], Martin Bright writes that Balls "says the use of the term "socialist" is less of a problem for his generation than it has been for older politicians like Blair and Brown, who remain bruised by the ideological warfare of the 1970s and 1980s".

"When I was at college, the economic system in eastern Europe was crumbling. We didn't have to ask the question of whether we should adopt a globally integrated, market-based model. For me, it is now a question of what values you have. Socialism, as represented by the Labour Party, the Fabian Society, the Co-operative movement, is a tradition I can be proud of", Balls told the New Statesman.

In September 2007, with his wife Yvette Cooper, he was accused of "breaking the spirit"[who?] of Commons rules by using MPs' allowances to help pay for a £655,000 home in north London. It was alleged that they bought a four-bed house in Stoke Newington, north London, and registered this as their second home (rather than their home in Castleford, West Yorkshire) in order to qualify for up to £44,000 a year to subsidise a reported £438,000 mortgage under the Commons Additional Costs Allowance. This is despite both spouses working in London full-time and their children attending local London schools. Through a spokesman, Balls and Cooper countered the allegation by saying "The whole family travel between their Yorkshire home and London each week when Parliament is sitting. As they are all in London during the week, their children have always attended the nearest school to their London house." [12].

In March 2008, Balls sparked controversy by appearing to reply to David Cameron's assertion in parliament that the government had presided over the greatest increase in overall taxation of all time with the phrase "So what?" Balls maintained that he had said "So weak!", in response to Cameron's previous questioning, and this was the phrase that was recorded in the parliamentary register Hansard, but the incident remained highly controversial.[13].

Then there's that little dweeb Douglas Alexander - brother of Scottish neo labour leader Wendy Alexander.

Bought and paid for wolves in sheeps clothing the lot of them.

My money (I'm not a gambling gal) is on Balls as he, along with George Osborne (conservative) are both Bilderberg luvveys, along with Ken Clarke - my mp!!!....although does it really matter - it's the same money funding all parties.

Glad you like the thread. As said, the time for remaining silent is long past.

[lightgiver]

it is all planned and staged,SAME OLD SHIT DIFFERENT ASSHOLE:p

[paul]

it is all planned and staged,SAME OLD SHIT DIFFERENT ASSHOLE:p

Absolutely .... the cheesy grin of Cameron mirrors the cheesy grin of Blair before his 'election' win......

Exit stage right Mr Brown .....

[marpat]

"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess." Matthew 23:25
To read the expose of the money lenders/nwo read Matthew 23 at www.biblegateway.com

And we are now supposed to rush off to the polling station and vote for St David....

Only the facade has changed, the content (ie money=control) remains the same.....sadly.

Here's visual proof of neo labour's failure to protect the citizens of England in particular but UK in general - please note that in the shot of Tony and Cherie near the beginning, the policeman on duty in the centre of shot is wearing a shirt - that's right - a shirt and NO stab proof vest....later on the police outside No 10 are wearing more tabards than protective vests - proof also that the Conservatives were already introducing the appearance of a police state into this once thriving country. John Major then went on to become European manager of the Carlyle Group ie Bush/Bin Laden private equity company until after 911 2001....Bush then stepped down but Major was still there in 2005. Search MOD/Qinetiq/Carlyle and well, just follow the money.

2008, eleven years later and I was the victim of an assault yesterday in broad daylight (2.30pm) which was attended by two armed response policeman looking for all the world like riot police but in navy blue summer shirts.....

I later discovered that even the lovely policewoman who came to take my statement was from the same unit and usually carries a taser....

Following on from the video is an article from 2000 in which Gordon Brown sets out his vision for the country, against which he, like Bliar has committed treason, as have many 'politicians' of all persuasions before and no doubt following them:

Blair arrives at Downing Street after his 1997 landslide victory - mainly as a result of the take-down of Major's government also as per the script. Are we expected to provide jubilant scenes when Cameron arrives at number 10?? - as planned:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ui_YVew5rNU


May 2 1997 - Blair visits the Queen - see the policewoman on horseback - dressed in shirt - no stab proof vest. David Dimbleby discusses Blair's agenda which was to be "more radical than people think" - and that Blair's landslide could be seen as an "anti Tory victory", as yesterday's 'victory' by the tories was an anti-labour victory. In other words "the king is dead, long live the king"....
Interesting insight on the Cabinet swearing alliegance to the Privvy Council from Jim Callaghan...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_0fpNdfpQgU&feature=related


Gordon Brown's speech to Conference 25th September 2000 on the subject of The Economy:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2000/sep/25/labourconference.labour6

"Let me say first of all: it is because since 1997 we have put our Labour values and our priorities into action that Britain has greater economic stability, rising investment in health, education and our public services, a national minimum wage for the first time, and the lowest unemployment for a generation.

And here in Brighton today, again speaking the language of priorities, I want to discuss with this conference and, from this conference, to discuss with the British people the economic challenges our country still faces. The difficulties we must still surmount, the new world pressures we now have to tackle and the long term choices we as a country have to make on the future of our economy, the future of public spending, the future of pensions and the future of taxes

Choices that we must make by heeding the call of principle and hearing the voices of the people as we listen and, as is our ambition and duty, to put ourselves at the service of the hard working people of Britain.

And I want the message to go out from Brighton this afternoon that if we, the Labour party, make the case for our values; and if by our service we show the British people we are worthy of trust then we can aim higher, and in our time and generation build a Britain of full employment. One where there is educational opportunity for all. A Britain where we abolish child and pensioner poverty, create a safe environment for all our children and show that the best health service for each of us is a national health service run for all of us.

A Britain where, true to our values, not just a few people but everyone has the chance to fulfil their potential and share in national prosperity.

In 1997 we said that the future depended upon first building strong and long term foundations for economic stability.

We all remember the early 90s.

It was Britain's hard working families -the one million who lost jobs in manufacturing, the one million businesses that went under, the million homeowners with negative equity. It was hard working families who paid the price and bore the brunt of economic failure. And by 1997 with the deficit nearly 30 billion, the national debt doubled, debt payments bigger than the schools budget, inflation rising, and the economy on the way back to the old familiar cycle of boom and bust, we resolved to, and under Tony Blair had the strength to, take difficult long term decisions

Bank of England independence. Tough controls on public spending. The difficult decision to raise fuel taxes. The decision to pay back debt and cut the costs of debt.

Breaking from the chronic and flawed Conservative short-termism and implementing Labour values; planning for the long-term; economic responsibility; building from strong foundations. Determined to protect hard working families from a return to boom and bust.

So it is not by accident, but by our actions, that we now have the lowest inflation for over 30 years and around the lowest long term interest rates for 35 years, and a mortgage bill on average £1,000 lower than under Tory interest rates.

And it is not by default but by design that unemployment among men is the lowest since 1980, unemployment among women the lowest since 1976, long term unemployment now the lowest since the 1970s, youth unemployment now the lowest since 1975. For the first time in years, unemployment among single parents and the disabled is now falling, as we make the right to work a reality. And I am determined that no one is excluded.

And because we have cut the costs of unemployment and debt, it is not by coincidence, but by choice that we are now tackling the long-term neglect of under investment in Britain and spending on health is rising by 7 per cent, education this year by 10 per cent and public investment in Britain is rising this year by 30 per cent, years of Tory underinvestment now replaced by a Labour plan for sustained long term investment.

These things did not just happen. The priorities and tough decisions of a Labour government made them happen.

And it is precisely because we have taken the time and trouble to build the long term foundation for success, precisely because we have resisted short term lurches in policy, that we can today steer a course of stability at a time of uncertainty in the world economy without putting growth at risk.

So we will not return to the old short-termism.

There will be no sudden lurches in tax or spending policy.

And there will be no irresponsible pre-election sprees or pay demands that put youth jobs or any jobs at risk. No change in our policy on Europe, support in principle for the single currency, in practise the five tests that have to be met. And no relaxing our fiscal rules.

We will not put hard won economic stability at risk. No return to short-termism. No return to Tory boom and bust."

read the rest (long) at:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2000/sep/25/labourconference.labour6

"All the world's a stage and all the men and women merely players"....Wm Shakespeare - or was it Francis Bacon. . .

Ladies and gentlemen - the exits are now open and it's time time to leave the Globe (-get it?) theatre....it's up to each and every one of us - before it's too late.

ps - for good measure and to show how unbiased I am (!) - here's a page of Gordon's new world order speeches:
http://uk.youtube.com/results?search_query=Gordon+Brown+new+world+order&search_type=&aq=f

Now I REALLY know what that phrase: "the king is dead, long live the king" means!

Who said we have to vote for David Cameron? I suppose if you encourage people not to vote then there is a chance that GB could still win the next election, then the 'agenda' to remove him will not work.

[sukyspook]

Who said we have to vote for David Cameron? I suppose if you encourage people not to vote then there is a chance that GB could still win the next election, then the 'agenda' to remove him will not work.

I didn't say we have to vote for St David of Cameron -- that's what we're supposed to do....like those who voted Conservative last Thursday in the vain hope that things will change......know that as said in my OP, George Osborne, Ken Clarke (both tory) and Ed Balls (lab) are regular Bilderberger attendees - all went last year - www.bilderberg.org - and are following the same agenda.

When I was campaigning for UKIP in 2003/4 (and became a PPC - prospective parliamentary candidate) I was told that Bilderberg wanted the price of oil to reach $200 (two hundred) dollars per barrel by 2008....it currently stands at $120 and rising... I'm no longer with UKIP, Veritas (what an infiltrated joke from the start) or any other 'political party'. Information is our only real current weapon and the Internet our ammunition - for now.

I will never EVER vote labour, conservative or lib dem again. I may vote UKIP as they are the only party who want to withdraw from Europe - but do they really or was I wasting my time/vote and what of all the others who are being led down that road...Are they EVER going to see a formal withdrawal from the EU? Likewise, some tories say they are 'sceptics' - you can say your sceptic till you're blue in the face because the party you are in has NO intention of ever leaving the EU.

Never forget that 'they' steal/manipulate/use our energy which is what money 'IS' - materialised energy. You give your time as 'work' and you get printed paper in return - or rather figures on a pc screen. They get us to waste our time and energy and all we do is go round and round in circles.

In principle 'the system' as a framework is fine - but tragically it's been hijacked and infiltrated by those who want humanity to be purely materially based ie without a divine spiritual aspect. I personally believe humans need both material and spiritual aspects to become 'whole' and live 'properly' in this dimension. The controllers/manipulators/puppets and lackeys from behind the 'curtain' are the problem.
Each country has to remove those who 'serve' this dark agenda to become sovereign, responsible and independent - perhaps for the first time EVER.

There should be a kind of 'debriefing' for those who don't yet 'get it' ie either can't/won't or don't want to even consider that the world has been directed from the shadows which continues to impact every facet of our lives for several millenia if not more.

Why, even my husband who I consider to be relatively intelligent can't see and doesn't want to even pick up the books/articles I offer to him to discover for himself the truth of this ridiculous world we live in. He is in denial. He doesn't believe that someone is clever enough to have created a global system of control. Boy is he in for a shock!

So no, we don't need to vote for St David of Cameron, after all he IS just a bliar clone. For me, it might have worked in 1997 (yes, sadly I was 'taken in' there and yes, things did get better for a short while). Then, as planned, bliar turned on the people of this once almost self-sufficient nation and the rest, as they say, is history.

It's pretty obvious by the complacency of petrol buyers alone who just keep shelling out with no question of just 'why'? that it's going to get a lot, lot worse before people are actually moved to DO something - nay, ANYTHING!!

Those who control the world are nothing more than common thieves hiding behind 'the system' - in fact, they're pirates of our life force which is why there is so much pirate symbology like 'skull and bones' and the 'Pirates' film trilogy. THEY ARE RUBBING OUR NOSES IN IT and laughing at us whilst they do it.

[marpat]

I didn't say we have to vote for St David of Cameron -- that's what we're supposed to do....like those who voted Conservative last Thursday in the vain hope that things will change......know that as said in my OP, George Osborne, Ken Clarke (both tory) and Ed Balls (lab) are regular Bilderberger attendees - all went last year - www.bilderberg.org - and are following the same agenda.

When I was campaigning for UKIP in 2003/4 (and became a PPC - prospective parliamentary candidate) I was told that Bilderberg wanted the price of oil to reach $200 (two hundred) dollars per barrel by 2008....it currently stands at $120 and rising... I'm no longer with UKIP, Veritas (what an infiltrated joke from the start) or any other 'political party'. Information is our only real current weapon and the Internet our ammunition - for now.

I will never EVER vote labour, conservative or lib dem again. I may vote UKIP as they are the only party who want to withdraw from Europe - but do they really or was I wasting my time/vote and what of all the others who are being led down that road...Are they EVER going to see a formal withdrawal from the EU? Likewise, some tories say they are 'sceptics' - you can say your sceptic till you're blue in the face because the party you are in has NO intention of ever leaving the EU.

Never forget that 'they' steal/manipulate/use our energy which is what money 'IS' - materialised energy. You give your time as 'work' and you get printed paper in return - or rather figures on a pc screen. They get us to waste our time and energy and all we do is go round and round in circles.

In principle 'the system' as a framework is fine - but tragically it's been hijacked and infiltrated by those who want humanity to be purely materially based ie without a divine spiritual aspect. I personally believe humans need both material and spiritual aspects to become 'whole' and live 'properly' in this dimension. The controllers/manipulators/puppets and lackeys from behind the 'curtain' are the problem.
Each country has to remove those who 'serve' this dark agenda to become sovereign, responsible and independent - perhaps for the first time EVER.

There should be a kind of 'debriefing' for those who don't yet 'get it' ie either can't/won't or don't want to even consider that the world has been directed from the shadows which continues to impact every facet of our lives for several millenia if not more.

Why, even my husband who I consider to be relatively intelligent can't see and doesn't want to even pick up the books/articles I offer to him to discover for himself the truth of this ridiculous world we live in. He is in denial. He doesn't believe that someone is clever enough to have created a global system of control. Boy is he in for a shock!

So no, we don't need to vote for St David of Cameron, after all he IS just a bliar clone. For me, it might have worked in 1997 (yes, sadly I was 'taken in' there and yes, things did get better for a short while). Then, as planned, bliar turned on the people of this once almost self-sufficient nation and the rest, as they say, is history.

It's pretty obvious by the complacency of petrol buyers alone who just keep shelling out with no question of just 'why'? that it's going to get a lot, lot worse before people are actually moved to DO something - nay, ANYTHING!!

Those who control the world are nothing more than common thieves hiding behind 'the system' - in fact, they're pirates of our life force which is why there is so much pirate symbology like 'skull and bones' and the 'Pirates' film trilogy. THEY ARE RUBBING OUR NOSES IN IT and laughing at us whilst they do it.


That paper money and figures on a pc screen have actual value though. If it was nothing then you would not be able to use them to buy. It would not be convenient to get paid in bags of silver or something.

People are not complacent about buying fuel. A lot of people have no choice as they have to travel to work in areas with no bus and train service but it will not be long before people just stop using cars for pleasure, which will lead to a downfall in car buying, which in turn will lead to loss of profit for such greedy people. The can only push their greed so far before they are asking for more than people can give.

I doubt we are leaving the EU at any time in the near future. Perhaps people felt the same way when the UK was created. The fact is that the people at the bottom have never had real choices, but at least their standard of living has gone up. In general the only way that the people have been able to take power is by shedding blood not by talking.

The reality in Britain is that too many people don't really care what is going on as long as their lives have some degree of comfort. Minds are kept clouded by crap TV programs and sport. It is amazing how the average person can tell you about pointless sporting facts but have no idea what forces are shaping their future.

[sukyspook]

That paper money and figures on a pc screen have actual value though. If it was nothing then you would not be able to use them to buy. It would not be convenient to get paid in bags of silver or something.

People are not complacent about buying fuel. A lot of people have no choice as they have to travel to work in areas with no bus and train service but it will not be long before people just stop using cars for pleasure, which will lead to a downfall in car buying, which in turn will lead to loss of profit for such greedy people. The can only push their greed so far before they are asking for more than people can give.

I doubt we are leaving the EU at any time in the near future. Perhaps people felt the same way when the UK was created. The fact is that the people at the bottom have never had real choices, but at least their standard of living has gone up. In general the only way that the people have been able to take power is by shedding blood not by talking.

The reality in Britain is that too many people don't really care what is going on as long as their lives have some degree of comfort. Minds are kept clouded by crap TV programs and sport. It is amazing how the average person can tell you about pointless sporting facts but have no idea what forces are shaping their future.


No, we won't be leaving the EU, it's an expensive stepping stone to world 'government'. Scary symbolism on this site:
http://euro-med.dk/?page_id=103
Apparently we could leave the EU in 8 minutes. I wish. We are paying for our own enslavement in a fascist dictatorship. However, as you observe, people would rather watch football than think about 'politics' or their futures and worse still, the future of our children has been stolen before our eyes - or did we complacently allow it to slip away??

Whilst I agree with your view that so long as people have some degree of comfort they don't care - it's pretty obvious that the manipulated increase in the price of just about everything is going to get even harder to bear as prices spiral out of our reach. Our living standards are going to get MUCH worse soon - whilst the Russian model 'failed', the 'Chinese model' appears to be the life we are destined to be manipulated into. As said, things will have to get really bad before folks do something. Once we're on the streets 'they' will be able to declare martial law and lock us down for good.....I believe we can stop it all before it gets that far but we must be steadfast in our alerting as many as poss to the situation we face.

The 'agenda' is very clever - pure evil, but clever nonetheless.

"You shall know them by their fruit" - ie money....

[on the road]

good thread. its worth a fight even if we ARE* fucked

*i think we are fucked ;)

[cafe beelzebub]

Are they waiting to install the new leaders in the USA and UK before they start the blue touch paper?

Once Hillary Clinton and David Cameron are in power they will set off the next false flag attack and send society into meltdown... 2009 onwards ???

[sukyspook]

Are they waiting to install the new leaders in the USA and UK before they start the blue touch paper?

Once Hillary Clinton and David Cameron are in power they will set off the next false flag attack and send society into meltdown... 2009 onwards ???

God forbid that Clinton - or Obama - or ANY of them are elected - all bought and paid for by the same money behind the scenes. Some say that Bush will remain as 'president' (what a joke - but not funny) as some 'event' will allow the creation of martial law before the end of the year. Who knows?
Perhaps 'they' think they need to install new 'leaders' - however my gut feeling is that like school bullies they keep niggling away at their victims ie us - the most important target is our money and then oil which both allow us a certain amount of freedom within the system 'they' have created for us. Hence they increase the price of everything which means our money buys less and less. Of course Brown, their uk financial puppet allowed the hike of house prices ready for the planned 'credit crunch' (cc=33!) all as planned.

It was reported that 150 estate agents are going under every week - I wonder if they realise they were 'used' to hike prices - no doubt as instructed through their lodges......

This is probably world war 3 which is initially financial but will sadly become more bloody when it all 'kicks off'. I sincerely hope and pray it doesn't get that far. There need to be some arrests very, very soon to prevent such an outcome.

'They' know we will continue to buy petrol even though they plan to get the price of oil to $200 per barrel (as told to me in 2004 - no link, sorry) and I have no reason to doubt that target the way the price is going.

Once they hit their target, perhaps they think we will hit the streets, having been pushed as far as we'll go. Then 'they' will probably declare martial law, the agenda all along.....

'They' know that we 'know' who 'they' are and what 'they' want. Now they have to up the pace and force the situation. For our children and for the future of this planet and the entire Creation - we must NOT allow them to 'win'.

I believe they would rather destroy the planet than ever admit defeat. If they destroyed the planet it would certainly affect this galaxy, if not the Universe. It's that serious. But of course, most can't even contemplate the increasing price of oil, let alone that a relatively small group of 'people' control the planet.



On the Road:
I have to keep believing we're NOT fucked....otherwise there's no point in even typing one word, we may as well lay down and die. I have NO intention of doing that - I have three wonderful children. Hope you read my post above - we are in a battle for our souls and the planet.

Had I known the truth about the situation on Earth, I would have stuck to my original decision and not brought children into the world....but that's for another day and another post. However I will say that having children drives me on towards the creation of a better world built upon truth, wisdom, true justice, compassion and love. I KNOW a better way is possible.

[cafe beelzebub]

God forbid that Clinton - or Obama - or ANY of them are elected - all bought and paid for by the same money behind the scenes. Some say that Bush will remain as 'president' (what a joke - but not funny) as some 'event' will allow the creation of martial law before the end of the year. Who knows?
Perhaps 'they' think they need to install new 'leaders' - however my gut feeling is that like school bullies they keep niggling away at their victims ie us - the most important target is our money and then oil which both allow us a certain amount of freedom within the system 'they' have created for us. Hence they increase the price of everything which means our money buys less and less. Of course Brown, their uk financial puppet allowed the hike of house prices ready for the planned 'credit crunch' (cc=33!) all as planned.

It was reported that 150 estate agents are going under every week - I wonder if they realise they were 'used' to hike prices - no doubt as instructed through their lodges......

This is probably world war 3 which is initially financial but will sadly become more bloody when it all 'kicks off'. I sincerely hope and pray it doesn't get that far. There need to be some arrests very, very soon to prevent such an outcome.

'They' know we will continue to buy petrol even though they plan to get the price of oil to $200 per barrel (as told to me in 2004 - no link, sorry) and I have no reason to doubt that target the way the price is going.

Once they hit their target, perhaps they think we will hit the streets, having been pushed as far as we'll go. Then 'they' will probably declare martial law, the agenda all along.....

'They' know that we 'know' who 'they' are and what 'they' want. Now they have to up the pace and force the situation. For our children and for the future of this planet and the entire Creation - we must NOT allow them to 'win'.

I believe they would rather destroy the planet than ever admit defeat. If they destroyed the planet it would certainly affect this galaxy, if not the Universe. It's that serious. But of course, most can't even contemplate the increasing price of oil, let alone that a relatively small group of 'people' control the planet.



On the Road:
I have to keep believing we're NOT fucked....otherwise there's no point in even typing one word, we may as well lay down and die. I have NO intention of doing that - I have three wonderful children. Hope you read my post above - we are in a battle for our souls and the planet.

Had I known the truth about the situation on Earth, I would have stuck to my original decision and not brought children into the world....but that's for another day and another post. However I will say that having children drives me on towards the creation of a better world built upon truth, wisdom, true justice, compassion and love. I KNOW a better way is possible.

Excellent post, many good points, I became aware of how the world was run about 8 years ago, made the decicion to not have kids then, i always wonder how people with kids go about it, do you teach your kids whats really going on?

[sukyspook]

Excellent post, many good points, I became aware of how the world was run about 8 years ago, made the decicion to not have kids then, i always wonder how people with kids go about it, do you teach your kids whats really going on?

My children (2 over 20, 1 in teens) know how the world is run, who does it, how they do it and what they must do to save themselves and then share as much info to help save others.

The oldest only goes so far and still defends the system somewhat, the youngest listens to everything I say and even tells ME synchronicities and manipulations she's recognised and the middle one has REALLY seen the light and is constantly asking questions to put his own picture together. Once you 'know', the information somehow finds its way to you or it steers you to it - but you have to really REALLY want to know.

I believe as a parent it is my duty to tell them the truth, no matter how bizarre or frightening it might be. They know that fear has been used against us and they know that the agenda goes way back to Egypt, Babylon and Sumer - and even to Atlantis and beyond - if it ever existed lol!!

My husband, as intelligent as he is still can't believe that a relatively small group of people control the world - although he does listen more of late and can see certain things might be true.

As said, information is the weapon, the Internet is the ammunition and truth is the goal.

I've also explained to them about "the Divine Force in the Universe that some call God" (Jordan Maxwell quote) and how to 'know' God. I guess the main thing that drives me is knowing how evil 'they' are and how and what they do - their modus operandi has proved to me that there IS a God - not an old man in the sky but however one wishes to understand God, it's there, waiting for us to ask to be shown the truth of all things. Even 'they' can't do anything without God!!!!

This article is about Abramelin the Mage and his 'secret magic' - yes, they use magic - which is what all the symbolism is all about. I believe I'm correct when I say they use the 'Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil' instead of the 'Tree of Life' which I'd say is God's way or as Jesus the Christ is: The Way, The Truth and The Life - is the 'Tree of Life'. The knowledge of good and evil is how to manipulate reality through magic in order to have the advantage over those you want to control. It's all about energy....

http://www.controverscial.com/Abramelin%20the%20Mage.htm

Sadly any talk of God usually stops people going further down the rabbit hole - but our spiritual side really IS the basis of all truth - 'they' are only interested in our spiritually dead corpses - a la corporations. It's what their legal system is based on ie Maritime Admiralty Law. Watch on google or youtube: 'The Occult World of Commerce' if you haven't yet seen it.

Those who would control the world have hijacked The Creation and think of themselves as our 'gods' - well, apparently when they've reincarnated here 7 times they are supposed to become a 'god'. They have the secrets of Creation but what they don't realise is that they might have manipulated many things but they have never, EVER created something out of nothing.....ponder on that in a quiet moment - it's a great starting point!