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hagbard_celine
06-04-2007, 01:43 PM
http://cbs3.com/topstories/local_story_275115123.html
There's a kind of chilling logic to this event. I almost feel as if I've been expecting it. It's almost an inevitable product of our society, based as it is on might-is-right and the applause it gives to abusing the vulnerable. The more peaceful and innocuous the person or people, the more likely (and right!?) it is that they will be subjected to violence.
The Amish are fascinating people, deeply devout in their religious and political views, intensely proud of their unique culture. They're very sweet people really who are totally non-violent. I remember the famous scene in the film "Witness" where some morons are teasing a group of Amish people by wiping icecream on them, but the Amish refuse to be baited.
tinmenace
06-04-2007, 01:52 PM
http://cbs3.com/topstories/local_story_275115123.html
The more peaceful and innocuous the person or people, the more likely (and right!?) it is that they will be subjected to violence.
I have to agree with you there.
friendsinthesky
06-04-2007, 02:11 PM
I agree, BUT why do they wear black clothing, it's so depressing.:(
paganus
08-01-2008, 07:11 PM
I agree, BUT why do they wear black clothing, it's so depressing.:(their entire life-style is depressing...
mountain
08-01-2008, 11:23 PM
There is lots of abuse and incest in the Amish community... just GOOGLE it and YOUTUBE it. Especially in Youngstown, Ohio.
amercury
09-01-2008, 12:01 AM
This has nothing to do with the tragic shooting, but I wouldn't say the Amish were totally non violent.
They start disciplining their children with beatings at, I believe, a year old, and the women are pretty oppressed.
But yeah, they don't have the violence issues that we have in our society, and unfortunately our shit leaked into their community with horrifying results.
They have a great sense of community; everyone is connected to each other, and they all contribute to the whole. But for this they sacrifice individuality. They are taught not to question their beliefs. (the beatings, or discipline as they call it, are to make them submissive at an early age)
I live in Pennsylvania and there are alot of Amish around here. They don't understand us and we don't understand them. They make some yummy food though. :)
paganus
09-01-2008, 06:27 AM
There is lots of abuse and incest in the Amish community... just GOOGLE it and YOUTUBE it. Especially in Youngstown, Ohio.wasnt that the reason the guy went on a spree? he was abused by them?
father ted
09-01-2008, 09:05 AM
How old was the gun? Amish aren't allowed to use new technology.
Dam first time I new about this.
hagbard_celine
09-01-2008, 03:45 PM
This has nothing to do with the tragic shooting, but I wouldn't say the Amish were totally non violent.
Maybe not, but they have the image of being non-violent. Films like Witness portray them as such.
paganus
09-01-2008, 04:38 PM
How old was the gun? Amish aren't allowed to use new technology.he think he'd fled some years before.
danucrom
09-01-2008, 07:46 PM
How old was the gun? Amish aren't allowed to use new technology.
You can't go on a shooting spree with a flintlock musket.
paganus
09-01-2008, 07:47 PM
You can't go on a shooting spree with a flintlock musket.:D bow and arrow would be better than that..
amercury
10-01-2008, 03:16 AM
Maybe not, but they have the image of being non-violent. Films like Witness portray them as such.
Yeah, I know what you mean.
I just hate when people hit their kids.
They do live peacefully together and they were extremely forgiving about the shootings. They even reached out to comfort the family of the perpetrator.
amercury
10-01-2008, 03:22 AM
How old was the gun? Amish aren't allowed to use new technology.
Neither the gunman or any of his family was amish. He lived near their community.
It's really a very strange story. He called his wife from the scene and told her that he had molested 2 family members when he was twelve years old, and had recently started having dreams about molesting again. Both family members denied being molested.
paganus
10-01-2008, 07:08 AM
Neither the gunman or any of his family was amish. He lived near their community.
It's really a very strange story. He called his wife from the scene and told her that he had molested 2 family members when he was twelve years old, and had recently started having dreams about molesting again. Both family members denied being molested.sounds like false-memory syndrome.
father ted
10-01-2008, 07:38 AM
Neither the gunman or any of his family was amish. He lived near their community.
It's really a very strange story. He called his wife from the scene and told her that he had molested 2 family members when he was twelve years old, and had recently started having dreams about molesting again. Both family members denied being molested.
That explains, thanks. Otherwise he would have had to use a bow and arrow skillfully or have about 15 muskets ready to go.
I had actually seen a story from an american morning show, yes, mainstreeme tv,where they talked about how molestation in the family towards young girls is rampant in the amish community and their problems are ignored completely because of the way their culture is (old fashioned male dominated).