Are Satanists mentally ill?

[eternal_spirit]

What do you think?

[eternal_spirit]

I dont think the are all mad and bad.

wondered if anyone would reply, maybe a dumb thread.

[lifeofbrian]

Satanism is another belief system. Sure, like all the rest they have created a place for themselves to go to after death, good luck to them.

[eternal_spirit]

Satanism is another belief system. Sure, like all the rest they have created a place for themselves to go to after death, good luck to them.
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Would you wish these good luck?

Cases of satanic murders or human sacrifice from around the world
The Missing Persons Issue Ireland (http://cairhavn.topcities.com/index.htm)

Cases of Satanic sacrifices (human sacrifices) from around the world
The purpose for this web page is to show clearly the extent of human sacrifice around the world!
Contrary to the opinions of police depts in the USA, the UK and Belgium, as examples, human sacrifice in a satanic ritual is no myth! Neither is Satanic Ritual Abuse!
Here are documented cases of murders, which bear all the hallmarks of Satanic sacrifice!
Here is evidence of convictions for satanic murder in the judicial courts of various countries , including Germany , South Africa and even in the USA where the FBI and CIA still claim , inexplicably, that there is no evidence that satanic murder is a reality!


The 1973 murder of Brian McDermott. (http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/BrianMcDermot.htm)
Belfast Telegraph (http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=440616)
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/brdermott.jpg
Brian McDermott -
Brian's murder bears all the signs of a satanic sacrifice!
Dismembered, mutilated and burnt!
New hunt opens for 'grotesque' child killer
Witchcraft not ruled out in killing of boy 30 years ago
05 September 2003
POLICE have not ruled out witchcraft or paedophilia as motives for Northern Ireland's most gruesome child murder, it emerged today.
The Phillip Cairns Case (http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/phillipCairns.htm)
Consider the Phillip Cairns case!




ABCNEWS.com : Laci Abducted by Cult? (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA030523PetersonDefenseTheories.html) http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/ho_laci_scott_030110_nh.jpg
Mutilation, dismemberment and burning - all the signs of a satanic sacrifice!



Irish establishment press mouth-piece -Jim Cussack admits to the reality of Human Sacrifice!i (http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/indo%20-%20cussack.htm)
Muti killing in London - boys boy found dismembered, mutilated.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1899609.stm -- I was forced to kill my baby!
iafrica.com | news | sa news Muti killers 'drank blood from skull' (http://iafrica.com/news/sa/929073.htm)


Matthew Hardman cut out the heart of his 90 year-old neighbour, Mabel Leyshon
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/_38173256_hardman150.jpg Matthew Hardman
According to most newspaper reports on this case, Hardman was infatuated by vampires! Little snippets of information about his occult interest peak out, but they are played down by the press, police and court officials! The plague of Satanic/Ritual killings has been sweeping the world since the early 1980s, yet the buffoons in the press, police and judiciary, deliberately try to camouflage the truth behind crimes such as the Hardman case! This case reeks of witchcraft and Satanism, and that cannot happen without the input from a "witch or a coven", which is actively "developing" young people, such as Hardman, to commit crimes like this!
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/_38173254_leyshon150.jpg Mabel Leyshon


BBC NEWS | Wales | Teenager guilty of 'vampire' murder (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2166683.stm)


Robert Steinhauser -the student killer at the Erfurt school in East Germany has been linked to satanism!
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/rsteinhaus.jpg
Robert Steinhauser - the Erfurt killer/satanist
19 year old Robert Steinhauser , the student killer at the Johann Gutenberg in Erfurt East Germany , has been linked to satanists groups which have been attracting recruits from the youth of the country in recent months. Similarities are overwhelming to the Columbine School shootings in the USA and the Dunblane school killings in Scotland
There is evidence that satanism or witchcraft was involved in the Columbine shootings .If indeed a satanic connection is proven , then this will be proof that the world is in dire danger from these vile satanic elites who prey on the young and susceptible.
Times Online (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-280368,00.html)-- www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-280368,00.html (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-280368,00.html)
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-280128,00.html (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/0,,3-280128,00.html)



http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/hbibby.jpg
Henry Bibby / alias Edward Crowley-- On 7th May 2000 in Covent Garden , he murdered in a satanic type killing ,12 year-old Diego Pineiro in front of onlookers.
Bibby was obsessed with Aleister Crowley , the notorious English arch- satanist .Bibby changed his name to Edward Crowley.in 1998.
On the 12th Feb 2001 Bibby/Crowley was sentenced to life in prison.
Ananova - Satanist murder 'could not have been prevented' (http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_550794.html)
Aleister Crowley (http://www.gothicpress.freeserve.co.uk/Aleister%20Crowley.htm)




Manuella and Daniel Ruda: self professed German satanic/nazis!

http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/ruda.jpg http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/dandevruda.jpghttp://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/manuelruda.jpg
BBC News | EUROPE | Judgement day for German Satanists (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1792000/1792416.stm)
BBC News | EUROPE | Satanists killed man 'on Devil's orders' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1767000/1767939.stm)
BBC News | ENGLAND | Thames torso 'was human sacrifice' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk/england/newsid_1788000/1788452.stm)
March 31 - April 2, 2000 NEWS & VIEWS: (mar31nv4.htm) (http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/2000Mar/mar31nv4.htm) Human sacrifice in Buenos Aires- Daughters eat fathers face in satanic murder!
Russian Orthodox priest murdered (http://www.sra-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/Russiaprt.htm) - ritual murder!

[eternal_spirit]

Satanism and the Born Agains (http://www.sra-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/freemasonryandsatanism.htm)
Satanists plot Child Sacrifice (http://www.sra-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/archive_satanicchildsacrifice.htm)
Click here -http (http://www.newsmakingnews.com/karencuriojonesarchive.htm) - gruesome factual accounts of satanic murders! Site by Karen . Jones-USA
details of convictions for ritual and satanic murder in the USA and across the world!
The Irish press coverup of the Marc Dutroux Murders! (http://www.sra-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/MarcDutrouxmurders.htm) http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/dungeondutroux.jpg
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/dutroux2.jpg Marc Dutroux - Belgium paedophile who supplied young girls for elite Belgium Satanic cult , in which , it is claimed , the present king Albert 11 is a member!
http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/BelgiumKingAlbert11.jpg Kingy Albert of Belgium
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/humansacrifices_files/404.htm (http://sm9.sitemeter.com/stats.asp?site=sm9dekarnys2)
Another infamous Belgium based multiple killer!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/wor...00/1856979.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_1856000/1856979.stm) Pandy gets life!
Andras Pandy came from Hungary and settled in Belgium in 1957. The Pandy case came to light in 1997 when he was charged with six murders ; the murder of two wives and four of his children. It is suspected that Pandy , together with his daughter Agnes , murdered many children whom he fostered from Rumania. Authorities in Hungary are examining the possibilities that Pandy could have abducted sixty people in Hungary! ( maybe , maybe not!)

There is the stench of satanism about the Pandy case! It has all the ingredients of Ritual Satanic bestiality!
His case is only now coming before a judge! It is akin to the Marc Dutroux case ; the so-called Belgium judiciary are more than slow to expose this case to public scrutiny!

See also : The Fred West Murders (http://www.sra-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/TheFredWestMurders.htm) http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/ISBN.jpg
Controversial book - "Disappeared off the face of the earth"! (http://www.missingpersons-ireland.freepress-freespeech.com/newbook.htm)


Human Sacrifice in the Ancient World
Human Sacrifice in Early Paganism (http://members.aol.com/jackmroper/introto.htm)
Carthaginian Culture: Pagan Human Sacrifice (http://members.aol.com/jackmroper/carthagi.htm)
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[lifeofbrian]

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Would you wish these good luck?



They'll need luck to get out of having to re-live what they put others through, and to avoid being face to face with the part their own being that allowed it to happen/acted on certain impulses. They'll be with their own kind and will put each other through those acts.

Some people pray for those people, giving them some 'luck'.

Can you see how it works?

[emerald]

I really wonder when useless threads will stop. Come on, after Xtians mentally ill, now same thing about satanists? What's next? Gnostics? Pentecostals? Sufis? Too damm many useless threads on this forum, what are the moderators doing? Seriously this space is abused...

[eternal_spirit]

They'll need luck to get out of having to re-live what they put others through, and to avoid being face to face with the part their own being that allowed it to happen/acted on certain impulses. They'll be with their own kind and will put each other through those acts.

Some people pray for those people, giving them some 'luck'.

Can you see how it works?
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Sorry it was stupid comment I made.
And yes, see what you mean now.

[lifeofbrian]

I really wonder when useless threads will stop. Come on, after Xtians mentally ill, now same thing about satanists? What's next? Gnostics? Pentecostals? Sufis? Too damm many useless threads on this forum, what are the moderators doing? Seriously this space is abused...

You can always report the stuff you don't want to read if you can't move on and read something you like, or create threads yourself, which are more in tune with your wishes?

[eternal_spirit]

I really wonder when useless threads will stop. Come on, after Xtians mentally ill, now same thing about satanists? What's next? Gnostics? Pentecostals? Sufis? Too damm many useless threads on this forum, what are the moderators doing? Seriously this space is abused...

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Anyone who is Christian here, usually get's abuse, more than any other group.
I think my second and third posts are important too show what can happen when some get involved with Satanism etc. So, I don't think it's waste of space.

Now have you any views on Satanism?

[lizzy]

I really wonder when useless threads will stop. Come on, after Xtians mentally ill, now same thing about satanists? What's next? Gnostics? Pentecostals? Sufis? Too damm many useless threads on this forum, what are the moderators doing? Seriously this space is abused...

Sorry, I don't get your point?
How can one equate a Satanist with a Sufis?
I think it is a valid question.

My very quick answer is........well if you did'nt start out mentally ill , you will probablly finish up that way.

[emerald]

U completely misunderstood me, ES and the other one. Im not defending satanists or else, but I beg ur pardon, are u a spokesperson of the Xtians? I dont need to create threads if I dont see the purpose but at least this "Religion" section is like a kindergarten: why is Jesus good? why is God bad? why is Jesus bad? etc. Well, each grasps the meaning of the words according to the capacity of his brain... End of story.

[quickening666]

Ive always seen "Satanism" as just really silly and the people who kill in its name I view as nothing more than mentally ill.

[kblood]

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Anyone who is Christian here, usually get's abuse, more than any other group.
I think my second and third posts are important too show what can happen when some get involved with Satanism etc. So, I don't think it's waste of space.

Now have you any views on Satanism?

Usually because christians say everyone who is of some other religion or belief than christianity is a satanist...

Satanism are nothing but the side effect of christianity. By making a devil the religion also made this counter religion, which probably was part of the agenda when making the religion to begin with. I guess the writes of the christian religions might just not have foreseen this while thinking of ways to dominate the world with religion.

Thankfully there are christians who doesnt let the religion corrupt them into thinking everything else is evil. Also there are some satanists who are satanists merely to rebel against their catholic parents or whatever. Some just do it as part of their fanhood of some rock band. Most of it probably doesnt lead to blood sacrifices and all that, but be sure that it will be used as propaganda to make more people convert to christianity.

As for the first question, it is about as stupid as the "are christians mentally ill?". In fact mental illness is overall just a scam that helps us stay within the 5 sense reality. At least that is a theory of mine. Mental illness causes the effects that some drugs do, quite naturally. This isnt accepted of course, therefore medication is made to counter that. Some times it does help the patients, but in most cases I would think it better for the "afflicted" to find a way to live with it, maybe even control it to some extent.

[eternal_spirit]

quote: kblood

Usually because christians say everyone who is of some other religion or belief than christianity is a satanist...

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I disagree, can you show me any posts by christian on this forum that say this?

[eternal_spirit]

U completely misunderstood me, ES and the other one. Im not defending satanists or else, but I beg ur pardon, are u a spokesperson of the Xtians? I dont need to create threads if I dont see the purpose but at least this "Religion" section is like a kindergarten: why is Jesus good? why is God bad? why is Jesus bad? etc. Well, each grasps the meaning of the words according to the capacity of his brain... End of story.

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Okay get you now. But don't get why you're saying am I a spokesperson, kind of proves my points.( about christians are the most abused group of people on here ) I do defend them sometimes because I see them being attacked by gangs of idiots on here all the time.

[amethyst]

Well, due to the fact that if you worship an individual known as Satan, some of satan's followers can and do become possessed by demonic entities.....

But that is not to say that all satanists are mentally ill. That would not be a correct or true statement. Some are just deceived into following him for various and sundry reasons.

And the same could be said of some Christians too. Or some Buddists or some atheists or some new agers etc. etc. etc.

We can stereotype all people and all "belief" systems, but that wouldn't be a very enlightened thing to do now, would it? ;)

As the saying goes: You will know them by their fruit.

In other words, by their behavior (the "fruits" they produce) you shall know and understand them.

GOOD FRUITS= love, peace, patience, kindness etc. etc.

BAD FRUITS = hate, anger, rage, violence etc. etc.

Kinda applies here.

[turquoisefyre]

...satan's followers can and do become possessed by demonic entities.....


if anything, this (being posessed, or opening yourself up for,) is what'll cause the mental illness, in various ways.

[eternal_spirit]

if anything, this (being posessed, or opening yourself up for,) is what'll cause the mental illness, in various ways.


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Like MPD - multiple personality disorder caused by SRA - Satanic ritual abuse.

[turquoisefyre]

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Like MPD - multiple personality disorder caused by SRA - Satanic ritual abuse.

yeah. and it's gotta have a really nasty effect on a person's health overall too.

but maybe the posession can sometimes happen very subtly, without the person even realizing at first. later on the individual mistakes the demon's thoughts for it's own...

also, that other realm the demon's or whatever operates from has got to be a really shitty place. i mean, just try and find an example of a person who's fully posessed...it ain't pretty. looks painful.

[octopusrex]

Most I've met are atheists trying to provoke others.

Some are really into it tho. Those guys.. They can be dangerous.

Donno.

We're all fucking nuts.

Except me, of course.

[turquoisefyre]

i've had one or two friends who told me they read the satanic bible and it got them to stand up for themselves...well, that could be maybe be understandable,
but my personal point of view about Satanism is that it's definately the perverded version of being true to yourself.

[synergy777]

satanism is nihilistic and a shallow enthrophic faith. it only attracts those who are saturated with pain, consumed with power. if religion was free from corruption, they would not need satanism. religous corruption leads people to satanism, prs.

[eternal_spirit]

satanism is nihilistic and a shallow enthrophic faith. it only attracts those who are saturated with pain, consumed with power. if religion was free from corruption, they would not need satanism. religous corruption leads people to satanism, prs.

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Also corrupted powermad egotistical sadistic psychopaths become satanists, my cat went missing a year ago on friday 13 th ( date maybe relevant but thats not the issue ) and I fear that some sick fuckers killed him, there had been a spate of pets found tortured/sacraficed locally

[seamus]

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Like MPD - multiple personality disorder caused by SRA - Satanic ritual abuse.
Technically the MPD is a survival scheme implemented by a being in great stress. It is not caused by the abuse, but rather by the victim's inability to face the awfulness of it and a need to create a safe place in the psyche. (which is not to say they are weak or anything, heck i don't think I could face a lot of it either) And SRA victims are not the only abuse victims who develop MPD.

I have info from two different Satanists I met eighteen years apart to the effect that Satan is about each person doing that which is in his nature, in order to hasten the end of this cycle of humanity. Evil people become more evil under Satan's influence, which is only suggestion. Good people, upon hearing evil suggestions, go the other direction. Christ, haven't you ever seen Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, or Pan's Labyrinth? All this SRA crap is the evil people heaping huge, destructive karmic debt on themselves, while those who are victims are also getting what they need in order to evolve. They are being provided with a bad example to not follow. An opportunity to empathize with others who suffer.

Evolution of the spirit is a very sticky subject. I have only really made steps toward real growth since I took responsibility for my whole life, including the abuse I was subjected to by family members. I NEEDED the things I have gone through, in order to become who I am meant to be. I do not blame others for their choices. I simply accept that they made those choices as bad examples for me not to follow. If no one made bad choices, who would need to learn compassion? Who would need to learn to love?

Satan is a convenient whipping-boy because the evil people who do evil things claim often that the devil made them do it. Bullshit. They heard an evil suggestion in their hearts and the psychopath in them thought it was a good idea. You can't blame Satan for any of the evil that the human race has wrought on itself! Of course many of you do and will continue to do so, until your own end is impending and you can no longer deny the origin of the evil deeds you have done.

Take it from one who has been through the portal, honesty is the best policy, and it starts with being honest with yourself.

-S

[seamus]

satanism is nihilistic and a shallow enthrophic faith. it only attracts those who are saturated with pain, consumed with power. if religion was free from corruption, they would not need satanism. religous corruption leads people to satanism, prs.
There are nearly as many kinds of Satanism as there are Satanists. How can you make such blanket statements?

The Satanism i have looked at is about freeing oneself from convention, and seeking the path of greatest good. I am friends with the "Serpent in the Garden", who spoke the truth "You shall not surely die in the day you eat of that fruit." "God knows that when you eat of it you will become like him, knowing good and evil." I am at cross-purposes with JHWH, who lied to Adam (and perhaps Eve), and who commands genocide and rape and murder of those who oppose him. Is the serpent Satan? Well, coming from the Judah-ists, the title of "adversary" is a compliment.

Am I a Satanist? It depends on what you mean by the question. I don't worship Satan. I respect him as performing a very important and yet thankless task (cosmic janitor). I respect him as having attempted to help humanity in the past. And I respect his decision to embrace the very dirty work of helping evil become more evil so that it will consume itself. But, even the Bible commands its adherents to give Satan his due respect. So what am I? I leave it for the future to manifest.

-S

[kblood]

quote: kblood

Usually because christians say everyone who is of some other religion or belief than christianity is a satanist...

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I disagree, can you show me any posts by christian on this forum that say this?

You are right to disagree, its just my view on it. It comes from a meeting I had with a christian. So christian that her and her boyfriend had no TV, and only music with a christian theme or at least not regular pop music.

Basicly the responses I got from her, and have gotten by others with a similar belief is the view that anything that goes even the slightest against the words of the bible, or other religions I guess, is evil and therefore best ignored.

You seem to have a similar view Eternal Spirit, and it seems to me that you have it from the media, since that is the response you have given about it before. The medias view on satanism and the occult.

Of course both are somewhat similar and satanism is indeed negative. The occult however is, at least to me, such a general term that it isnt negative unless made so.

But basicly, these kinds of threads, they are good for debates, and this one is obviously a response to the "Are christians..." something, dont remember really.

[eternal_spirit]

You are right to disagree, its just my view on it. It comes from a meeting I had with a christian. So christian that her and her boyfriend had no TV, and only music with a christian theme or at least not regular pop music.

Basicly the responses I got from her, and have gotten by others with a similar belief is the view that anything that goes even the slightest against the words of the bible, or other religions I guess, is evil and therefore best ignored.

You seem to have a similar view Eternal Spirit, and it seems to me that you have it from the media, since that is the response you have given about it before. The medias view on satanism

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LMFAO! You're too much :D
Comparing me to Bible believers talk about Missquote of the year Kblood.
Me with music from a Christian theme :rolleyes:oh get out of here I'm almost pissing my self laughing. ( seriously tell me you're joking kblood? )

REAL life cases documented in the media ! And stuff from David Icke and others amongst some of my posts..

So, you haven't found any posts by any Chrsitians evangelising saying Jesus and the Bible are the only truth, didn't think so, thats was my original reply to your earlier post.

oh BTW I'm not religious nore do I follow any religion, and you know this so cut the crap. :)

[kblood]

I am sorry if I didnt make myself clear enough, but I did not quote you, and I was refering to an actuall christian person. Your views does not come from a bible or any other religion I know.

But it would be nice to know where it actually does come from...

Well, its probably too late for me to write coherent threads, I will just leave it at that for now.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25341

[kblood]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25341

A much better post :) Now while you are at it, could you look up which cult it is that believes in child abuse prolongs lifespan? I am quite certain some old geezer with a big mansion announced it publicly. It might have been the OTO guy who started that satanist sect or whatever it was, or it was some other person who had been linked to satanism.

I have been looking for it, but the best I could find has been an episode from South Park. I got the information originally from a documentary, maybe on BBC, but could have been discovery channel or whatever. I could try finding out which South Park episode mentions it, although they might have used a slightly different name for the cult in that episode.

[turquoisefyre]

I am at cross-purposes with JHWH, who lied to Adam (and perhaps Eve)...
-S

why do you think He lied? (and lied about what exactly)

(just want to get some clarity for myself;))

[eternal_spirit]

why do you think He lied? (and lied about what exactly)

(just want to get some clarity for myself;))

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You should know the devil decieveth

[turquoisefyre]

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You should know the devil decieveth


eh? are you saying JHWH's the devil? WTF?:eek: (or am i missing something here, again?)


lol

[eternal_spirit]

eh? are you saying JHWH's the devil? WTF?:eek: (or am i missing something here, again?)


lol

As Kenneth williams said stop messing about @ me
http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/3089600.jpg?v=1&c=ViewImages&k=2&d=310F5BD4C6CD10E9C4A06D66DD4B80EBA55A1E4F32AD3138


Bad joke devil deciEVEth:rolleyes:

[thelucifer]

What do you think?


Are Satanists mentally ill ?

Considering there are two types of Satanists, true and false, I answer Yes and Yes.

Can stupidity at that level be anything better than ill ??

[kblood]

Are Satanists mentally ill ?

Considering there are two types of Satanists, true and false, I answer Yes and Yes.

Can stupidity at that level be anything better than ill ??

I take pride in having been stamped mentally ill :o It can even be used as an excuse to not take responsibility for the life of me and others.

[damagedbrainn]

A much better post :) Now while you are at it, could you look up which cult it is that believes in child abuse prolongs lifespan? I am quite certain some old geezer with a big mansion announced it publicly. It might have been the OTO guy who started that satanist sect or whatever it was, or it was some other person who had been linked to satanism.

I have been looking for it, but the best I could find has been an episode from South Park. I got the information originally from a documentary, maybe on BBC, but could have been discovery channel or whatever. I could try finding out which South Park episode mentions it, although they might have used a slightly different name for the cult in that episode.

Dude, that was JUST an episode of South Park:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Return_of_Chef

It was called the "Super Adventure Club" and it was a parody of the Church of Scientology.

[angel147]

I just don't understand what they believe they will get out of it? All Lucifer got in the grand split up was Hell, but I guess there's always enough of that for everyone that wants it.

[detroit313]

Let me rephrase that. Are people into the Occult ill?

YES THEY ARE!

Anyone who thinks the Truth is hidden or secret will never find what he or she is "looking" for.

Nothing is hidden, the sun always shines!

[seamus]

i think i answered this before but that was a while ago, and uh, people change!

My answer: Could be...


they have just as much chance of being mentally ill as say, a dentist or a lawyer.

personally, I like Satan. A lot. But I think it's pretty uncool to label yourself with (and thus derive a p[ortion of your own identity from) someone else's name (or title, as in this case). Besides, it's not like he wants to be worshiped or anything. He just wants the end of evil (told me so himself!), so he panders to it (knowing that evil destroys itself with speed that is directly proportional to the magnitude of the evil). Don't be awed by the fact that he's a more advanced being... he's just up a couple rungs from you and me. And your housecat is one rung below you. See how your housecat treats you? That's how anyone who wants to be cool with Satan should treat him. NOT like a Golden Retriever!

"Satan is my motor...
Hear my motor purr."
-Cake

All hail the janitor! All hail Satan! Lord knows no one else could have cleaned up this mess!

S

[seamus]

why do you think He lied? (and lied about what exactly)

(just want to get some clarity for myself;))
woops heh didn't see that before...

If you read the genesis garden story you can catch jehovah going "OMG! what are we gonna do! they ate the fruit! Now they're like us! Snap! No, of course they aren't dead! that was a ruse to keep them off that tree! Think now! hmm... yes! I got it! we'll kick them out of the garden lickety-split, so they won't eat that other fruit and live forever, totally exposing our energy-vampiric game!"

S

[rhydra]

The LRA isn't satanic, at lest they don't say they are, most people who talk about Satanism seem to be fairly reasonable, perhaps more reasonable than some Christians who say that they are pleased soldiers are dying because of the acceptance of homosexuality.

There are people who deliberately go out to be outcasts, if there was no concept of Satanism it would be something else to latch on to. There are people who are mentally ill, their actions are caused by their illness, their illness is not caused by their actions.

I am neither a Christian nor a Satanist, I do not worship man or gods.
Everyone deserves respect for quiet, responsible belief as long as it doesn't impose itself on, or annoy others.

[seamus]

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I am neither a Christian nor a Satanist, I do not worship man or gods.
Everyone deserves respect for quiet, responsible belief as long as it doesn't impose itself on, or annoy others.

But then, how could it impose upon or annoy anyone if it were quiet? Hmm? ;)

S

[tjohn]

What do you think?Yes I think they are. Then I could say, that people of other religions have also lost their marbles. I hope they find them - their marbles.

[tjohn]

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All hail the janitor! All hail Satan! Lord knows no one else could have cleaned up this mess!
SYour Satan hasn't cleared up the mess but is a part of it!

I could clear up the religious mess - if I find the 'right' words - if people are willing to listen! Two big if's there.

We need to understand what God is. People need to think and stop following impostors, like sheep. There does exist what some call gods (many of them) but there's no creature or 'man' in the sky we could rightly call God.

So it's mostly up to us to be either creative or destructive - to unite and attract like matter was/is formed, or to divide and destroy. If we are destroying life we are going against what causes this universe to exist.

I'm not God any more than anyone or anything else. Big clue there.

More clues:
A photon has no mass but is a packet of information - all energy is information and matter is information put together. So yes there is a Mind we can call God and we, any of us, 'good' or 'bad' are part of the same...

But we do have choices we can make.
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[tjohn]

I write things and some people still don't 'get' it! Instead they see through filters of religion and what they have been misled to believe!

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=698363&postcount=46

[seamus]

Your Satan hasn't cleared up the mess but is a part of it! Ahem... He's not mine... he's his... just like you're your own. and I am writing affirmatively in the somewhat firm conviction that he will manage to get the whole lot of sociapathic humanoids to implode on each other. As for him being part of the problem, you've been listening to too many preachers and news stories. All Satan ever does is tempt people. They and they alone are responsible for their actions. An axe murderer is simply a person who needs to be eliminated from the universe. This can only be done by himself, by becoming evil enough to destroy himself. So instead of having jails full of violent monkeys (who aren't conscious enough to warrant the name "human") we will eventually have a world in which those who wish to impose their will on others will simply cease to exist. I think it's a tremendous plan. People who want to blame the "devil" for their own evils need to look in the mirror.
I could clear up the religious mess - if I find the 'right' words - if people are willing to listen! Two big if's there.

We need to understand what God is. People need to think and stop following impostors, like sheep. There does exist what some call gods (many of them) but there's no creature or 'man' in the sky we could rightly call God.
So it's mostly up to us to be either creative or destructive - to unite and attract like matter was/is formed, or to divide and destroy. If we are destroying life we are going against what causes this universe to exist.

I'm not God any more than anyone or anything else. Big clue there.

More clues:
A photon has no mass but is a packet of information - all energy is information and matter is information put together. So yes there is a Mind we can call God and we, any of us, 'good' or 'bad' are part of the same...

But we do have choices we can make.
How is it you got this so right but still find it plausible to fix blame on a person you have never met? Maybe it's just because you have been conditioned to think so.
S

[fromthatshow]

A state separate from God cannot exist, yet we have created it. We are all mentally ill.

[tjohn]

A state separate from God cannot exist, yet we have created it. We are all mentally ill.What you said does not show mental illness. In a sense everything is God and God is everything.

[tjohn]

Ahem... He's not mine... he's his... just like you're your own. You must have known that "your Satan" was a figure of speech. Yet there's truth in that - but you don't understand at this point. and I am writing affirmatively in the somewhat firm conviction that he will manage to get the whole lot of sociapathic humanoids to implode on each other. As for him being part of the problem, you've been listening to too many preachers and news stories. No, sorry, that's not it at all. All Satan ever does is tempt people. You've been listening to too many preachers and news stories. :rolleyes:
The idea that a creature (other than ourselves) called Satan tempts us to do wrong is a religious idea than can make people mentally ill. They and they alone are responsible for their actions. And their thoughts. An axe murderer is simply a person who needs to be eliminated from the universe. An axe murderer is "simply" a person who is very mentally ill - same with 'our' (figure of speech) politicians. Being murderers they should all be locked up and treated for mental illness.

Think!

This can only be done by himself, by becoming evil enough to destroy himself. So instead of having jails full of violent monkeys (who aren't conscious enough to warrant the name "human") we will eventually have a world in which those who wish to impose their will on others will simply cease to exist. I think it's a tremendous plan. A plan that destroys many people in order to destroy a few doesn't sound like a good plan to me. Worse if they have the military behind them - BOOM and we are all gone.

Think!

People who want to blame the "devil" for their own evils need to look in the mirror. :D Yes indeed they do!

Think!

How is it you got this so right but still find it plausible to fix blame on a person you have never met? Maybe it's just because you have been conditioned to think so.
SSorry that you fail to understand. I take responsibility for my own actions and thoughts. Then if I'm tempted to do wrong, I don't blame it on a mythological character who would be symbolic of one's confused mind.