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lumukanda
04-04-2007, 03:37 PM
Iran 'to release British sailors'

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad says 15 British naval personnel captured in the Gulf will be freed.
He repeated allegations that the British sailors and marines "invaded" Iranian waters, but said they would be freed as a "gift" to Britain.

He made the announcement at a news conference, in which he also awarded medals to the commanders who captured the British personnel in the Gulf.

He said the Britons would be released immediately and taken to an airport.

Britain says the 15 were in Iraqi waters under a UN mandate when they were captured nearly two weeks ago.

"Unfortunately the British government was not even brave enough to tell their people the truth, that it made a mistake," Mr Ahmadinejad said.

Mr Ahmadinejad also criticised the US-led invasion of Iraq and Israel's war in Lebanon.

He used a news conference marking the Persian New Year to condemn the countries he said were behind "misery" and "destruction" in the world.

He said there did not appear to be anyone "to stand up and defend the rights of those oppressed".

He opened the news conference with references to the Islamic holy book, the Koran, then made a wide-ranging speech about the modern history of the Middle East, while attacking the West.

The invasion of Iraq was based on the false premise that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he said, but even now "the occupation forces continue to stay there and people are still being killed".

mmm, were they just trying to press an issue? funny that, the west locks em up, iran let's them go, what does that tell you?

armitage_vi
04-04-2007, 05:11 PM
This is GREAT News, and I'm trying to be objective here but

-The President of Iran sent an open letter to President Bush to discuss relations with Iran. The U.S. NEVER returned his letter....
- Iran has repeatedly said their enrichment of uranium is for Engery Purposes only
- Iran has freed 15 British troops as a will go good jesture...


-The U.S. tortured and actually is defending it's stance on Torture to detainees
- The U.S. has more Weapons of Mass Destruction than any other nation on the planet
- The U.S. invades a country against the concensus of the United Nations, and invades another country...

So tell me how the United States are suppose to be the good guys again? Don't get me wrong I don't trust ANY governments, but I'm just trying to keep score here

mrguitarbear
04-04-2007, 05:21 PM
If this is true , it IS great news ! Makes Bush and Blair look stupid !

december
04-04-2007, 05:28 PM
U.K. sailors to be released after Iran president's news conference
17:59 | 04/ 04/ 2007


TEHRAN, April 4 (RIA Novosti) - Iran's president said Wednesday that the 15 British sailors detained in late March have been amnestied, calling it "a gift" to the British people.

Iran detained the Royal Navy personnel March 23, citing violation of its maritime border with Iraq. Britain has insisted the servicemen were in Iraqi waters under a UN mandate to search shipping in the Gulf. The sides began negotiations Tuesday.

"The British sailors have been freed and can go home," Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told British journalists.

He added that they would be officially released after the press conference.

He accused British authorities of hiding the true information. "The British government has no courage even to admit that their military violated Iran's border," Ahmadinejad said.

The Iranian president said the release was not the result of a deal between Tehran and the U.S. and Britain.

"The release of the British sailors was... a gift from the Iranian nation to the British nation," he said.

Earlier Wednesday, Ahmadinejad decorated the head of the Coast Guard for the operation to detain the 15 British sailors and marines in the Persian Gulf.

"I would like to thank Iran's border service for their courageous defense of Iran's territorial waters," Ahmadinejad said.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20070404/63100972.html

light worker
04-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Clearly this is good news but just remember that the war drums will still be beating. The real issue remains the nuclear stand off and the fact that British forces in Basra are claiming all of the recent attacks on them by militants have been down to Iran.

hagbard_celine
04-04-2007, 10:32 PM
This is not what I expected. It could be that Ahemedinajad got wise and called the Americans' bluff; maybe he's beheading the CIA agents who organized this as we speak! If he's not cooperating with the Americans' plan then he needs to be concerned for his health, in my view. If he does a Kennedy at the Bay of Pigs then he'll meet the same fate.

It's good to see these sailors returned to their families; but now their ordeal is over they'll soon realize that it has a dividend. Like Andy McNab they can make a fortune writing bestselling books and articles in "The Sun". McNab and John Peters were brutally interrogated an tortured for their troubles, which is more than the Iran 15 were.

hagbard_celine
04-04-2007, 10:33 PM
Clearly this is good news but just remember that the war drums will still be beating.

Quite so. Iran has still been made to look bad, which is the ultinate objective of the excersise.

graflok
04-04-2007, 11:23 PM
... and Rosie O'Donnell, who expressed her suspicions to millions of TV viewers that the capture was an engineered event, now appears to be "wrong."

I think this is another major reason for the quick change of plans and Blair's sudden diplomatic actions. They appear to be quite concerned about Rosie and the other celebs who are beginning to speak out.

And, that is the best news of all. :)

graflok

falseflag
05-04-2007, 03:14 PM
Just a thought could Iran the US and the Uk be playing biblical games here, with the release of the sailors in tune with easter.
I ain't no biblical expert but didn't 'Pontus Pilot' release Barabbas and crucify Christ, because the crowd (Jews) voted to free barabbas(according to wikipedia, Barabbas was a member of the sicarii, a militant Jewish movement that sought to overthrow the Roman occupiers of their land by force (aka a terrorist), plus interestingly 'bar-abbas' translates as 'son of the father'). Not sure how it all fits as its just a thought. It needs someone with far more biblical know how, to put this possible jigsaw together.

intruder
05-04-2007, 04:08 PM
And for those of you hold the view that the President of Iran is part and parcel of the "new world order", third world war agenda, etc. How? why?

Don't just present a possibly photoshopped image of the "devils horns" symbol as "proof".

I think those British soldiers should volunteer for a mere 6 mons. in Guantanamo as a sign of goodwill, and a show of solidarity against the real beasts

timestop24
05-04-2007, 05:48 PM
And for those of you hold the view that the President of Iran is part and parcel of the "new world order", third world war agenda, etc. How? why?

Don't just present a possibly photoshopped image of the "devils horns" symbol as "proof".

I think those British soldiers should volunteer for a mere 6 mons. in Guantanamo as a sign of goodwill, and a show of solidarity against the real beasts



I got that image from Latest Headlines on this site. Are you implying Icke photoshopped it?

intruder
05-04-2007, 05:59 PM
Anyone could have photoshopped the image. davidicke.com jsut posted it. I've asked someone to source it....still waiting.

And YES...ANYTHING is possible from a man who provides a few pencil crayon drawings to help substantiate his rather dubious theory of the blood sucking, shape-shifting crowd....NOT convinced.

timestop24
05-04-2007, 06:23 PM
Anyone could have photoshopped the image. davidicke.com jsut posted it. I've asked someone to source it....still waiting.

And YES...ANYTHING is possible from a man who provides a few pencil crayon drawings to help substantiate his rather dubious theory of the blood sucking, shape-shifting crowd....NOT convinced.

Why are you on this forum if "anything is possible" from Icke? I don't mean to sound rude, just wondering...I personally am undecided on the whole reptoid connection myself.

graflok
05-04-2007, 06:28 PM
And for those of you hold the view that the President of Iran is part and parcel of the "new world order", third world war agenda, etc. How? why?

Don't just present a possibly photoshopped image of the "devils horns" symbol as "proof".


I think you have it backwards.

A government leader who is not in the pocket of the illuminati is where proof would be needed because it is the more fantastic notion.

graflok

timestop24
05-04-2007, 06:48 PM
Anyone could have photoshopped the image. davidicke.com jsut posted it. I've asked someone to source it....still waiting.

And YES...ANYTHING is possible from a man who provides a few pencil crayon drawings to help substantiate his rather dubious theory of the blood sucking, shape-shifting crowd....NOT convinced.

Here's the site David links to:

http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/inaug_protest/bush-sign.html

Also excerpt from Icke's newsletter from this site:

http://www.savethemales.ca/


David Icke received the shocking picture of Ahmadinejad from an aghast Iranian. "What's going on? This doesn't have anything to do with Islam!" he exlaimed.

In his exclusive newsletter, Icke recently wrote that Ahmadinehad seems to be playing the Illuminati game: "The propaganda war against Iran really picked up after the election of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad as President of the Islamic Republic in 2005. After he took office in the August he was soon making speeches that the American propagandists and spinners must have dreamed of. I cannot believe this was a fortuitous coincidence. He defeated the one-time favourite, the former President Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani whose reputation and record would have made it almost impossible to demonise Iran as a threat to America or anyone else."

Icke continued: "Mehdi Karroubi, a Reformist candidate seeking to open Iranian society and oppose the extremes of hardline Islam, finished a good third in the first round of voting. He then alleged that a network of mosques, the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps and Basij militia forces had illegally generated support for Ahmadinejad and specifically named Mojtaba Khamenei, a son of the Supreme Leader Ayatolla Khamenei, as being involved in this election fraud. The Ayatollah told Karroubi that the allegations were below his dignity and he would not allow the crisis in Iran that they could cause. Karroubi wrote back, resigning from all his political posts and some Reformist newspapers were stopped from publication for publishing Karroubi's letter."


Finally Icke says: "British and American military intelligence ousted Prime Minister Dr. Mohammed Mossadegh in 1953 in a CIA-planned coup called Operation Ajax; imposed the vicious Shah of Iran as a dictator; and then removed him for the Ayatollah Khomeini in 1979. Why would the same forces not continue to be involved in election manipulation in Iran when they so badly needed Ahmadinejad to defeat Rafsanjani for their 'Axis of Evil' plan to work?"

Someone can corroborate this quote from Icke's newsletter, if possible please?

siliconpsychosis
05-04-2007, 10:31 PM
Am I right in thinking that the British Government have released the names of 14 of the navy personnel? Whos the 15th member? Why the anonimity?