Ancient African Kings Of India

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Ancient African Kings Of India

Submitted by Mindwarz on Wed, 2007-03-21 01:13. african ancient civilization india
By Dr. Clyde Winters

Ethiopians have had very intimate relations with Indians. In fact, in antiquity the Ethiopians ruled much of India. These Ethiopians were called the Naga. It was the Naga who created Sanskrit.

A reading of ancient Dravidian literature which dates back to 500 BC, gives us considerable information on the Naga. In Indian tradition the Naga won central India from the Villavar (bowmen) and Minavar (fishermen).

The Naga were great seamen who ruled much of India, Sri Lanka and Burma. To the Aryans they described as half man and snake. The Tamil knew them as warlike people who used the bow and noose.

The earliest mention of the Naga, appear in the Ramayana , they are also mentioned in the Mahabharata. In the Mahabharata we discover that the
Naga had the capital city in the Dekkan, and other cities spread between the Jumna and Ganges as early as 1300 BC. The Dravidian classic, the Chilappathikaran made it clear that the first great kingdom of India was
Naganadu.

The Naga probably came from Kush-Punt/Ethiopia. The Puntites were the greatest sailors of the ancient world. In the Egyptian inscriptions there is mention of the Puntite ports of Outculit, Hamesu and Tekaru, which corresponds to Adulis, Hamasen and Tigre.

In Sumerian text, it is claimed that the Puntites traded with the people of the Indus Valley or Dilmun. According to S.N. Kramer in The Sumerians, part of Punt was probably called Meluhha, and Dilmun was probably the ancient name of the Indus Valley. (Today some scholars maintain that Oman, where we find no ancient cities was Dilmun and the Indus Valley may have been Meluhha).

Ancient Ethiopian traditions support the rule of Puntites or Ethiopians of India. In the Kebra Nagast, we find mention of the Arwe kings who ruled India. The founder of the dynasty was Za Besi Angabo. This dynasty according to the Kebra Nagast began around 1370 BC. These rulers of India and Ethiopia were called Nagas. The Kebra Nagast claims that ” Queen Makeda “had servants and merchants; they traded for her at sea and on land in the Indies and Aswan”. It also says that her son Ebna Hakim or Menelik I, made a campaign in the Indian Sea; the king of India made gifts and donations and prostrated himself before him”. It is also said that Menalik ruled an empire that extended from the rivers of Egypt (Blue Nile) to the west and from the south Shoa to eastern India”, according to the Kebra
Nagast. The Kebra Nagast identification of an eastern Indian empre ruled by
the Naga, corresponds to the Naga colonies in the Dekkan, and on the East
coast between the Kaviri and Vaigai rivers.

The presence of Meluhhaites/ Puntites in India may expain the Greek tradition of Kusites ruling India up to the Ganges. It would also explain the Aryan traditions of Mlechchas ( Sanskrit name for some of the non-Aryan people) as one of the aboriginal groups of India. Many scholars associate the name Mlechchas with Meluhha.

The major Naga tribes were the Maravar, Eyinar, Oliyar, Oviyar, Aru-Valur and Parathavar. The Nagas resisted the invansion of the Cholas. In the Kalittokai IV,1-5, the Naga are described as being “of strong limbs and hardy frames and fierce looking tigers wearing long and curled locks of hair.” The Naga kings of Sri Lanka are mentioned in the: Mahawanso, and are said to have later become Dravidians, as testified to by the names of these people: Naganathan, Nagaratnam, Nagaraja and etc.

The major gift of the Naga to India was the writing system: Nagari. Nagari is the name for the Sanskrit script. Over a hundred years ago Sir William Jones, pointed out that the ancient Ethiopic and Sanskrit writing are one and the same.

William Jones, explained that the Ethiopian origin of Sanskrit was supported by the fact that both writing systems the writing went from left to right and the vowels were annexed to the consonants. Today Eurocentric scholars teach that Indians taught writing to the Ethiopians, yet the name Nagari for Sanskrit betrays the Ethiopia origin of this form of writing. Moreover, it is interesting to note that Sanskrit vowels: a,aa,’,I,u,e,o, virama etc., are in the same order as Geez.

The Ethiopian script has influenced many other writing systems. Y.M. Kobishnor, in the Unesco History of Africa, maintains that Ethiopic was used as the model for Armenian writing, as was many of the Transcaucasian scripts. Dravidian literature indicate that the Naga may have introduced worship of Kali, the Serpent, Murugan and the Sun or Krishna. It is interesting to note that a god called Murugan is worshipped by many people in East Africa.

It is interesting that Krishna, who was associated with the Sun, means Black, this is analogous to the meaning of Khons of the Kushites. Homer, described Hercules as follows: “Black he stood as night his bow uncased, his arrow string for flight”. This mention of arrows identifies the Kushites as warriors who used the bow, a common weapon of the Kushites and the Naga.

Kumarinadu

The Naga or Ethiopians were defeated by Dravidian speaking people from Kumarinadu. Kamarinadu is suppose to have formerly existed as a large Island in the India ocean which connected India with East Africa. This landmass is mentioned in the Silappadikaram, which said that Kamarinadu was made up of seven nadus or regions. The Dravidian scholars Adiyarkunallar and Nachinaar wrote about the ancient principalities of Tamilaham, which existed on Kamarinadu.

Kumarinadu was ruled by the Pandyans/Pandians at Madurai before it
sunk beneath the sea. The greatest king of Kumarinadu was Sengoon.
According to Dravidian scholars the Pandyans worshipped the goddess Kumari Amman. This Amman, probably corresponds to the ancient god Amon of the Kushites.

The Kalittokai 104, makes it clear that after the Pandyans were forced to migrate off their Island home into South India, “to compensate for the area lost to the great waves of the sea, King Pandia without tiresome moved to the other countries and won them. Removing the emblems of tiger (Cholas) and bow (Cheras) he, in their place inscribed his reputed emblem fish (Pandia’s) and valiantly made his enemies bow to him



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Peter Von Bohlen (1796-1840) German Indologist, compared India with ancient Egypt. He thought there was a cultural connection between the two in ancient times.

(source: German Indologists: Biographies of Scholars in Indian Studies writing in German - By Valentine Stache-Rosen. p.15-16).

In his book, Empire of the Soul: Some Journeys in India, Paul William Roberts, states:

" Recent research and scholarship make it increasingly possible to believe that the Vedic era was the lost civilization whose legacy the Egyptians and the Indians inherited. There must have been one. There are too many similarities between hieroglyphic texts and Vedic ones, these in turn echoed in somewhat diluted form and a confused fashion by the authors of Babylonian texts and the Old Testament

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interesting and makes sense why is it academics are so closed minded when it comes to exploring the truth , its all in the past and there s no prize to claim so just follow the clues and take note .Who were the olmec peoples where did they come from and where did they go .Its all cycles our turn next then your go again , theres nothing to be gained by denying the past or maybe just a better understanding of the future :D

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Ancient African Kings Of India? WTF

The very fact it is titled "kings" like wtf does than mean africans went there and did fuk all but become kings? FAKE!

I have to say I found it interesting but africans tend to leech onto the nile area of africa because its the only thing they got. All africa has is a little bit of shit in nubia that was blatently created by the egyptians. The negroid is a race of slaves they dont have the brainpower to travel to india especially not anywhere near the time of the european civilisations there.

Dont spam rubbish onto this forum.

remember that all people are from africa/asia. remember that you are from us, we are one race, one family, one creator. also post it on the board, why hide. see my avatar, better belive brother, better believe.

i bet you loved it when they killed diana, her arab baby and her arab boyfriend. really do love us don't ya?

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Firstly I wasnt hiding anything. Secondly what the hell are talking about diana arab baby? It is a possibility the Royal family killed them because they didnt want arab blood in British Royalty but, considering Prince Charles has said that when he becomes King hes gonna break a 1000yr old tradition and be the defender of "all" faiths and not "thee" faith, I dont really give a shit.

Yes maybe the first man did evolve from an ape in africa. Then a people left africa and by a natural selection prcess in the harsh winters of europe those people became europeans. Evolving diffrently, diversity. It should be celebrated the only reason there are problems between races is the fact that we are living in eachothers pockets, or you are living in our pockets.

I dont know what you mean by "better believe brother, better believe" that website that you copied pasted from is a "racist" website and I was reading an article on it about how the europeans are albino pale mutants, very nice.

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remember that all people are from africa/asia. remember that you are from us, we are one race, one family, one creator.

Its ok syn, I know the African kingdoms were/ are real.
And I always give props to the motherland. One planet /one people/ one love!
Keep spreading info. Its good. Like good raspberries good.

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rchrist , i feel sorry for you. your worldview has been a eurocentric imperial fraud, truly are the lost sheep/tribes. from religion to history everything. at least have the courage to accept it and inform yourself, to free yourself from the shackles of corrupted data. that site is pretty spot on, its harsh but truth. its based on some very good data, i.e dna, dominant/recessive. also read carefully if you tan, how can you be an albino. albino's exist in africa and india, they are not solely in europe. if you view the human race as one, as a race that has migrated, bred and adapted to its environment, it basic science. when you attract the cultural/historical/imperial aspect then you cry racist. look at it objectively, free from cultural prejudice, you will see it then.

its hard coming to terms that the white man is not god, nor master race, get over it.

if it wasn't for africa, you wouldn't be here. its hard isn't it, seeing coloured people having a history, culture, i bet you wish they were are converted by the vatican,missionaries and loved coca cola, ate mcdonalds and the rest, lol. does it offend you to know that the africans are actually the intellectual giants of the earth, the majestic monuments of africa such as egypt still inspire you. see i am indian i was never told about our vedic heritage at school. all i got was we gave you railways, weren't we nice. we had maths, physics, aryuvedic medicine, yoga, chess, polo, a whole culture of knowledge over 10,000 years old. me informing myself threatens your fake supremacy, thats why you hate it.see the state of africa and the african diaspora, thats what you wanted to happen to us asians, wheras you partly succeeded in subjugating them, hiding their history, cutting off their roots, you failed with us. failed miserably fella, proper pigs ear of it mate, lol

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quite cool, saladin versus the crusader, same outcome though, lol. watch kingdom of heaven. ever since those days you have tried to take the middle east from us, you succeeded in ww2 and the fake israel, thanks to nwo, rothschilds and zionists, and deluded christian facists but it won't last. the very book you die for, condemns you, if you ever read it though.

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IndiaStar Review of Books
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ANCIENT INDIA IN A NEW LIGHT
-- four books --

In Search of the Cradle of Civilization
by Georg Feuesrstein, Subhash Kak, & David Frawley
Wheaton, Illinois: Quest Books, 1995
341 pages $24.95 Tele: 1-708-665-0123

The Myth of the Aryan Invasion of India
by David Frawley
New Delhi: Voice of India, 1995
(2 / 18 Ansari Road, New Delhi, 110 002)


The Politics of History: Aryan Invasion Theory and the Subversion of Scholarship.
by Navaratna Rajaram
New Delhi: Voice of India, 1995
(2 / 18 Ansari Road, New Delhi, 110 002)

Return of the Aryans
by Bhagwan S. Gidwani
Penguin-India, 1994 (also Penguin-Canada)
943 page


Reviewed by C. J. S. Wallia

When I first heard about Gidwani's assertion in Return of the Aryans that the Black Sea and Germany's Black Forest were named in memory of dark-skinned Aryans from India, I thought his suggestion preposterous. Now, after reading the above four books, the suggested origin of these names begins to appear in the realm of the plausible.

The "standard" textbooks on India's early history, written by Eurocentric historians, have recently been challenged by postcolonial historians. Several new books question many of the "standard" assertions by presenting convincing evidence -- linguistic, literary, archaeological, geological (including recent Indo-French satellite photography), and astronomical. The postcolonialists call for a thorough rewrite of the erroneous history textbooks used in schools and colleges worldwide, including, sadly, those in India.

There never was any "Aryan" invasion of India, nor any "Aryan"-"Dravidian" war. The term "Arya" meant good, referring to quality of behavior, not race. Likewise "dasyu" referred to misconduct, not another race. The Rig Veda was composed not in 1200 B.C.; it was completed in 3700 B.C. The cradle of civilization is not Sumeria in Mesopotamia, but the Sapta Sindhu, the land of seven rivers, in northwest India. From the densely populated Sapta Sindhu, Sanskrit-speaking people migrated to Iran, Greece, and further West.

Commenting on Rajaram and Frawley, Professor Klaus Klostermaier of the University of Manitoba, writes:

"The facts referred to in this work are incontrovertible. The conclusions drawn have a high degree of plausibility. Consequently, the implications are nothing less than sensational....Rajaram and Frawley are true pioneers blazing new trails."

And so is Subhash Kak, Sanskrit scholar and computer scientist, co-author of In Search of the Cradle of Civilization, who has analyzed the astronomical code of the Rig Veda. Drawing on Kak's work and other evidence, Rajaram has established the period 4000-3700 B.C. for the composition of the Rig Veda.

The "standard" textbooks on early Indian history are an example of the adage that history books are written to reflect the views of the conqueror. In the late eighteenth century, when many Sanskrit classics, were first translated into contemporary European languages, they drew great admiration from Europe's major intellectual luminaries like Voltaire, Goethe, and Hegel. For example, G.W. F. Hegel wrote that India was"the starting-point for the whole Western world." Later, in the nineteenth century, the same Hegel dismissed the Puranas chronologies as fabrications and generally disparaged Indian history. Why this reversal? Nineteenth century European imperialism distorted European perceptions and brought forth racist attitudes. The colonized people and their culture came to be seen as inferior. Hegel's reversal exemplifies this changed perception.





However, eighteenth- and nineteenth-century European historians had to contend with a puzzling philological fact: the classical language of India, Sanskrit, and the classical languages of Europe, Greek and Latin, were closely related. In the words of William Jones, one of the earliest to make a systematic study of this resemblance, "... a stronger affinity than could possibly have been produced by accident; so strong, indeed, that no philologer could examine them all three, without first believing them to have sprung from some common source...The Sanskrit language is of wonderful structure, more perfect than the Greek, more copious than the Latin and more exquisitely refined than either." An example of the resemblance: the word for ten is dasha in Sanskrit, deka in Greek, and decem in Latin. Thousands of Sanskrit words such as pitah, brahta, raja have cognates in nearly all European languages. Based on the undeniable resemblance of these languages, philologists termed them Indo-European languages.

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To detoxify yourself from the noxious Eurocentric notions injected by the "standard" history textbooks on India's cultural heritage, peruse these landmark books as soon as possible!

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To account for the common origin of Indo-European languages, several nineteenth- century European scholars hypothesized that in ancient times an invasion of India from Europe, by a people who spoke the original Indo-European language -- an "Aryan" invasion--must have occurred. In typical Eurocentric arrogance, they assumed, without any evidence, that the Aryans came from outside India. Principal among these "scholars" were Max Muller and Monier-Williams, both committed to denigrating India's cultural heritage in order to persuade Indians to convert to Christianity.

In a letter to his wife, Max Muller wrote: "This edition of mine and the translation of the Veda will hereafter tell to a great extent... the fate of India, and on the growth of millions of souls in that country. It is the root of their religion, and to show them what the root is, I feel sure, the only way of uprooting all that has sprung from it during the last 3000 years." Muller's purpose was to uproot Hinduism. Monier-Williams, in a speech given at Oxford to the Missionary Congress on 2 May 1877, said: "When the walls of the mighty fortress of Brahminism are encircled, undermined, and finally stormed by the soldiers of the Cross, the victory of Christianity must be signal and complete." Some objective scholars, these!

In picking a date for the supposed Aryan invasion of India by a supposed race of people, Rajaram writes: "Muller was strongly influenced by a current Christian belief that the creation of the world had taken place at 9:00 a.m. on 23 October 4004 BC. Assuming the date of 4004 BC for the creation of the world, as Muller did, leads to 2448 BC for the biblical Flood. If another thousand years is allowed for the waters to subside and for the soil to get dry enough for the Aryans to begin their invasion of India, we are left at around 1400 BC. Adding another two hundred years before they could begin composing the Rig Veda brings us right to Muller's date of 1200.BC...he used a ghost story from Somadeva's Kathasaritasagara to support this date." Some historical research, this!

Reader, to detoxify yourself from the noxious Eurocentric notions injected by the "standard" history textbooks on India's cultural heritage, peruse these two landmark books as soon as possible!

David Frawley, author of many books on Sanskrit literature, including Gods, Sages, and Kings: Vedic Secrets of Ancient Civilization, sumarizes his views on Vedic history, society, and geography in The Myth of the Aryan Invasion . Referring to the famous Battle of the Ten Kings in the Rig Veda, 3700 B.C., Frawley writes: "The Vedic war is a question of values, not race. It is a conflict between spiritual values and materialistic values, which occurs in all societies. Sometimes arya people become un-arya by a change in values, as indicated in the battle of Sudas....Even names of famous Vedic kings, such as Sudas and Devadasa have the ending of das or dasa meaning 'servant'." Sudas ruled the land of Sapta Sindhu, centered around the mighty Sarasvati river, which flowed from the Himalayas to the Rann of Kutch. After the Battle of the Ten Kings, many Indians migrated westwards into Iran and beyond.

Frawley observes that Max Muller, with his hidden Christian agenda, selectively lifted metaphorical passages from the Rig Veda to buttress his"Aryan invasion from Europe" theory. Taken in its entirety the literary evidence shows the Vedic civilization as an indigenous development.

In articles published in various journals Navaratna Rajaram, author of The Politics of History presents a chronological synthesis of ancient Indian civilization. One of the most interesting sections of his work is on the Sulbasutras, 3000 BC.,-- mathematical manuals for the design and construction of Vedic altars. Rajaram notes that A. Seidenberg, an American historian of science, in his paper entitled "Origin of Mathematics," published in the journal Archive for History of Exact Sciences, 1978, "established the Sulbasutras as the basis for the mathematics in Egypt, Babylonia, and Greece. This provides a mathematically rigorous foundation for the derivation of the chronology presented in this book."

The principal author of the Sulbasutras, Baudhayana, a South Indian, "discovered the theorem of Pythagoras some two thousand years before Pythagoras. His work was known in Egypt... as early as 2700 BC. He is the first known of the world's mathematicians." This is the civilization that invented mathematics.

Rajaram proposes a chronology of ancient Indian civilization as beginning before the archaeological evidence of the Mehrgarh site in the northwest, circa 6500 BC, the earliest and largest urban site of the period in the world. This site has yielded evidence for the earliest domestication of animals, evolution of agriculture, as well as arts and crafts. The horse was first domesticated here in 6500 BC. Mehrgarh, Harappa and Mohenjodaro are peripheral cities of the great Sarasvati civilization with more than 500 sites along its banks awaiting excavation. In 4500 BC, Mandhatr defeated the people of Druhyus, driving them to the west into Iran. 4000-3700 BC was the Rig Veda period. In 3730 BC occurred the Battle of Ten Kings-- the age of Sudas and his sage advisors, Vasishtha and Visvamitra. 3600 to 3100 BC was the late Vedic age during which Yajur, Sama, and Atharva Vedas were composed. 3100 BC is the date of the Mahabharata, composed by Vyasa. At this time, the Sarasvati river lost Yamuna because of a tectonic plate shift. It was the beginning of Kali Yuga. 3000 BC was the late Brahmanic period during which early Sutras were composed. In 1900 BC, another tectonic plate shift made Sarasvati lose Sutlej. This dried up Sarasvati, causing massive exodus of people to the east -- the Ganga valley, whence arose the classical civilization of India.

With more than 50 maps and illustrations, In Search of the Cradle of Civilization is a comprehensive book. The book's jacket quotes Deepak Chopra: "This is a scholarly masterpiece and belongs in the home and library of every person who wishes to evolve using the wisdom of the ages." One of its best sections is on the relation between the Indus-Sarasvati and the Brahmi scripts: by analyzing statistical computer-concordances, Subhash Kak has shown that"the most frequent letters of the Indus-Sarasvati and the Brahmi scripts look almost identical and share a rather similar frequency of occurrence." Kak also found that "the texts on the steatite seals follow grammatical rules like that of Sanskrit." Although deciphering of the script remains to be done, he suggests that the Brahmi is derived from Indus-Sarasvati.


Another excellent section of this book is "The Dravidian Puzzle": the authors note that "while scholars have identified some twenty Dravidian 'loan words' in the Rig Veda, the Dravidian languages have 'borrowed' at least fifty percent of their vocabulary from (Aryan) Sanskrit." Moreover, many Dravidian scholars credit "the creation of Tamil, the oldest Dravidian tongue, to Agastaya, who figures in the Rig Veda as one of the prominent sages of his era. The Dravidian kings historically have called themselves Aryans and have traced their descent through Manu....northern and southern India share a common culture and religion... God Shiva clearly is synonymous with the Vedic God Rudra." There was no Aryan invasion, no Dravidian invasion, no Aryan-Dravidian war. Sanskrit has been shown to include elements of Munda, the language of the tribals. All three language groups are indigenous developments.

Bhagwan S. Gidwani's Return of the Aryans, (Penguin-India, also distributed by Penguin-Canada) a recently published 943-page novel is a highly readable account of the Sapta Sindhu culture around 5100 BC as well as the migration of the Aryans from India to the West. It is a monumental work with a cast of thousands--among them the hero of mythic birth, Sindhu Putra, the physician-sage Dhanwantar and his wife Dhanwantarti.

In his introduction, the author says, "this novel will give a mosaic of a long-forgotten past to show that the Aryans did not belong to a different species, culture or race. Their cradle-grounds were the Sindhu, Ganga and Dravidian civilizations; and there is an unbroken continuity--spiritual, social and secular--between the pre-ancient civilizations of Bharat Varsha and the Aryans of 5000 BC.... The Aryans who left Bharat Varsha were not warriors or conquerors, not men of genius or madness; they were not adventurers or soldiers of fortune; and certainly, they were not religious zealots, fanatics or crusaders. These travellers simply had a dream that led them on towards the 'unreachable goal of finding a land that was pure and free from evil--and it was a road that led everywhere but finally nowhere' and at last they came to realize that there was no land of pure, except what a man might make of his own efforts."

This prodigiously researched historical novel presents a skillful exposition of the origin of writing, of mathematics, and technology (agriculture, metallurgy, boat-building, weaponry) in pre-ancient India. Particularly engaging are the chapters on the Aryans' journey from India to Mesopotamia, Egypt, Anatolia, Germany, and futher west. The author gives numerous examples of rivers and places named in Sanskrit language: Hari river and Hari rath (Herat), in Afghanistan, Dana (Danube) river in Europe. The Black Sea, near where they camped for a long time and built boats, and Germany's Black Forest are named in memory of the dark-skinned Aryans from India.

In 1996, Penguin (Canada) issued a press release that this novel had won the "Most Outstanding Book of the Year" award from the historical division of the research and reference center.

I recommend these four books to anyone interested in India's cultural heritage.