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diamond dogs
21-04-2008, 11:30 PM
Well got nothing against them personally but I thought with all the previous furore about them and the talk of banning them in the past, I was surprised to see they had a PPB. It is obviously part of the agenda for the powers that be and now nonchalantly allow it.

I see a surge of support at the forthcoming local elections, iimmigration issues, the looming orchestrated financial meltdown and hike in fuel and utility prices and the abolshment of the 10p tax threshold, I thnk civil unrest would not be off the cards in the future.

Let's see all the major parties heap insults at them but deep down are feeling glee with their renewed interest......

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

steevo
21-04-2008, 11:32 PM
I dont like the BNP but I think they may win big-time this year cos of all the propaganda in the mainstream media. It would be perfect for the "powers that be", that is the sort of response they want from the sheeple.

dondaz
22-04-2008, 12:05 AM
I bumped into someone the other day and was invited to a meeting, but no cameras allowed. This is a suit and tie professional who owns a couple of shops. He's a bit shady and has never been into politics untill the past couple of years. Something is afoot. I said I'd think about it.

I'm not interested in signing up, but I would interview the top bnp man on film about their agenda!:rolleyes:

hagbard_celine
22-04-2008, 10:45 AM
The only reason the BNP's website is visited more than those of the other political parties is because the others' are so bloody boring!:D

The BNP's "promises" sound no different to what any other party's, and will no doubt turn oiut to be as hypoctitical and hollow!:rolleyes: It's amusing how they mention, almost as a by-the-way, the one issue that obesses them: immigration. All the BNP supporters I know support the party primarily for this issue. The truth is that the BNP's solution to the immigration problem is like climbimg up the mast on a sinking ship!:rolleyes: It fails to adress the true cause of mass-immigration: global poverty.

It doesn't seem to occur to these morons that the real reason so many people want to come and live in Britain is because life is so much better here than elsewhere! Duh!:rolleyes: If you make life just as good in their homelands (which is perfectly possible) then I'm sure they wouldn't want to leave. Do you honestly think they'll move here for the weather!?:eek:

peachped
24-04-2008, 01:15 AM
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It doesn't seem to occur to these morons that the real reason so many people want to come and live in Britain is because life is so much better here than elsewhere! Duh!:rolleyes: If you make life just as good in their homelands (which is perfectly possible) then I'm sure they wouldn't want to leave. Do you honestly think they'll move here for the weather!?:eek:

Why do you think that 'life is so much better here than elsewhere'?

steevo
24-04-2008, 01:17 AM
Why do you think that 'life is so much better here than elsewhere'?

It aint better here, the money is the attraction (I'm talkng about why the Poles have come here).

peachped
24-04-2008, 01:23 AM
It aint better here, the money is the attraction (I'm talkng about why the Poles have come here).

So when Hc said 'life' he really meant 'money'?

steevo
24-04-2008, 01:27 AM
So when Hc said 'life' he really meant 'money'?

I dont know, you will have to ask him. I think HC meant that poverty is what makes people want top leave their native country. Obviously if someone is in Africa and dying of hunger or their country is in a civil war (manufactured/manipulated), then they obviously would LOVE to come here under ANY circumstances.

peachped
24-04-2008, 01:35 AM
I'm thinking of leaving this country, I want to be an Eskimo.

steevo
24-04-2008, 01:42 AM
I'm thinking of leaving this country, I want to be an Eskimo.

Yeah me too. From what I have seen of them Eskimos, they look happy enough but unfortunately the weather isnt too good i heard :D

ennui
24-04-2008, 02:17 PM
If you make life just as good in their homelands (which is perfectly possible) then I'm sure they wouldn't want to leave. Do you honestly think they'll move here for the weather!?:eek:

All countries will never be equal.... unless you want a global government. ;)

hagbard_celine
24-04-2008, 07:57 PM
I dont know, you will have to ask him. I think HC meant that poverty is what makes people want top leave their native country. Obviously if someone is in Africa and dying of hunger or their country is in a civil war (manufactured/manipulated), then they obviously would LOVE to come here under ANY circumstances.


Yes, that's what I mean.

Almost all immigrants come from Eastern Euope, Africa, the Middle East; places where poverty and war is rife. My shift partner at work is Polish and he earns more money in a week than he could in a month in Poland. When they come to this country all they are doing is exacly what we would do in the same circumstances.

I agree that mass immigration causes problems, the native culture being undermined etc. But simply "shutting the doors" is not the solution. We have to address the cause and that is global poverty.

hagbard_celine
24-04-2008, 07:59 PM
All countries will never be equal.... unless you want a global government. ;)

Not so. There's no reason why anyone anywhere should be poor, starving or in danger from war. All these things are reperable and preventable.

peachped
24-04-2008, 10:11 PM
Yes, that's what I mean.

Almost all immigrants come from Eastern Euope, Africa, the Middle East; places where poverty and war is rife. My shift partner at work is Polish and he earns more money in a week than he could in a month in Poland. When they come to this country all they are doing is exacly what we would do in the same circumstances.

I agree that mass immigration causes problems, the native culture being undermined etc. But simply "shutting the doors" is not the solution. We have to address the cause and that is global poverty.

Yes I agree with that. Exploitation is the problem. :(

frankanne
25-04-2008, 05:20 PM
The only reason the BNP's website is visited more than those of the other political parties is because the others' are so bloody boring!:D

The BNP's "promises" sound no different to what any other party's, and will no doubt turn oiut to be as hypoctitical and hollow!:rolleyes: It's amusing how they mention, almost as a by-the-way, the one issue that obesses them: immigration. All the BNP supporters I know support the party primarily for this issue. The truth is that the BNP's solution to the immigration problem is like climbimg up the mast on a sinking ship!:rolleyes: It fails to adress the true cause of mass-immigration: global poverty.

It doesn't seem to occur to these morons that the real reason so many people want to come and live in Britain is because life is so much better here than elsewhere! Duh!:rolleyes: If you make life just as good in their homelands (which is perfectly possible) then I'm sure they wouldn't want to leave. Do you honestly think they'll move here for the weather!?:eek:

You've made a good point about making life fair in ALL countries. Trouble is that the poor in ALL countries are suffering right now, even the poor in this rich and 'wonderful?' country we call England, Britain.

I know that we have no idea of the poverty in some countries - material poverty that is. What we have here is a different kind of poverty.

What is happening now to Britain is so sad. We are programmed to keep gagged for fear of being called 'racist', even when we feel that our country is being raped.

The sinking ship is a good analogy, and one that I can relate to. I know many people of third generation immigrants who visit their home countries regularly and love going there. When the ship sinks, that's where they will go, as will all the 'new' immigrants. As will anyone who can either afford to go, or has a base somewhere else.

Mass immigration has been used as a tool by the elite, and we have all been such good little sheeple by keeping quiet about it for so long and just letting it happen, too scared to speak up about the injustice for fear of being called racist.

The BNP will have a lot of support. I just worry that by the time the elite allow the masses to support the BNP, - and they are allowing that right now - they will have in mind another agenda, one of riots, etc? Is that what this is all about?

People do as they are told by the powers that be. Even though they don't like to acknowledge it, they do. Not many are willing to go against authority.

skylark
26-04-2008, 08:46 AM
look at what's happpening in the u.s.--millions upon millions of illegal immigrants/economic migrants are flooding into the country and the same is true here in the u.k. to a lesser degree...i'm sure we've all got our ideas on why this is passively tolerated by both governments; certainly business is booming because employment rights need not be observed...with minimum wage/maximum hours/maternity leave/lunch breaks and even toilet breaks discouraged-employers LOVE it--they're thriving and this is the state of things to come if they get their way...Ed. wanna make it clear that i've read the thread and i too have zero/zilch/nada against any of the ppl who want in and come in...this is an addendum to the 'given' mentioned by hagbard celine and cuppla others i think that global poverty and greed is ultimately to blame, so with that in mind...

they won't stop immigration here or over the pond because it suits their corporate and WIDER agenda...but i'll tell you one thing and that is, by having a racist and discreditable political party as the only one with an immigration policy: i.e "enough's enough"/close the borders, that most British ppl of whatever backround and colour agree on, the policy is itself discredited in the mainstream media and by the tweedledum and tweedledee tory and labour parties and ken from bros. libdems, by association ..."but that's what the BNP are arguing/are you a racist?" etc.,...that really should be clear to everyone...in all honesty it's not something i've made myself an authority on...but i've said for some time--while i was off-line for 3 years and only had msm accounts like the New Statesman/spectator/private eye to go off that Griffin is run by MI5; i instinctively thought so when i discovered he was at Cambridge University (oxbridge is still the biggest recruiting ground for intelligence officers of both 5 and 6--though ofcourse he is an agent not an officer--so how much more so back then in the late 70s/early 80s? and if you care to have a cursory scan at some of the websites you'll read about MI5's widely known involvement/infiltration of both the 'far' right (BNP) and the 'far' left (SWP/RCP etc.,)--common knowledge that such organisations as these are a veritable breeding ground for MI5 operatives who sow the seeds of disunity or even seize policy control so that they can steer the ship into the rocks or have it run aground at just the 'right' time!..declassified papers and what have you are the source for such an assertion...but yeah based on what i've read about Griffin and the political in-fighting of the right since the 80s i'm in no doubt whatsoever that he's owned and run by MI5...they (the BNP) will likely have a few minor triumphs here and there in predominantly white working class areas but it'll probably be more by accident than design..when your top man's a trojan horse it's only a matter of time before bitter recriminations/schisms develop and the whole thing implodes...or even better -is nicely contained and ticking along for years and of no account

i mean c'mon, imagine if the tories adopted the BNP's immigration policy!--they'd stroll into govt...it won't happen because the Establishment don't want it to...they want a mess...ordo ab chao...we know it back to front/ inside out/upside down here on Icke where it's no revelation at all.

the sad truth is politics isn't worth shit, we know that...it's a complete waste of time and energy to go into if you want to "make a difference" or effect "real change"...(they think that by SAYING it often enough ppl will believe it and sadly they're right)...change will have to come from without the political process and that means largely from within the individual...each of us must recognise that it is only through spiritual r-evolution that the political and economic elite will be defeated, that as Icke says "our thoughts create our reality"/if enough ppl in the know actually ADOPT this strategy and stopped looking without all the fucking time then we wouldn't be too far off the critical mass that's needed to bring the whole shithouse toppling down into the gutter where it belongs; and since it's a truism that God helps those who help themselves let's everyone start meditating for half an hour a day - building up the spiritual energy that will radically change the world we're living in for the better!-and i do mean radically!-it's the ONLY way forward: THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT HIT 'EM! the future is entirely in our/your hands! YOU!

ofcourse--just to backtrack a minute-- a certain amount of limited local change in the way of local initiatives with massive public demand and support can sometimes win out but by and large local govt's a closed freemasonic shop just like it is at westminster and brussels and in the law courts which makes the whole sinister enterprise possible; most--though not all--centres of political and economic power are stitched up like a kipper and i say so just on the off chance that someone is reading this for whom this is news!--a rag tag and bobtail outfit like the ber ner puh is just one of the blunter tools in the establishment's armoury used to hypnotise ppl into believing they have a say in how things are done...we don't/we never have...not really..not on a national scale...the ones who started out with pure ideals were slowly made to realise where the real power lay...

the agenda is predetermined and if occasionally things go awry (from their perspective) it's not too long before they're back on track...and the very fact of an unplanned diversion itself is subtly made to serve their ends...having said that, they are busy putting out more fires than in former times and with that in mind...let's create one great big fucking bonfire...

let's get properly spiritually focused and that way in the not-too-distant future the power we've accumulated in conjunction with the new higher frequencies pouring into the planet will offset and overcome any mind melding technology being used against us to keep us docile or in fear and allow us as One to utterly obliterate the institutions that have enslaved our consciousnesses for so many generations and this we shall accomplish without a single violent blow being exchanged!

All for One and One for All!

frankanne
28-04-2008, 07:38 AM
look at what's happpening in the u.s.--millions upon millions of illegal immigrants/economic migrants are flooding into the country and the same is true here in the u.k. to a lesser degree...i'm sure we've all got our ideas on why this is passively tolerated by both governments; certainly business is booming because employment rights need not be observed...with minimum wage/maximum hours/maternity leave/lunch breaks and even toilet breaks discouraged-employers LOVE it--they're thriving and this is the state of things to come if they get their way...Ed. wanna make it clear that i've read the thread and i too have zero/zilch/nada against any of the ppl who want in and come in...this is an addendum to the 'given' mentioned by hagbard celine and cuppla others i think that global poverty and greed is ultimately to blame, so with that in mind...

they won't stop immigration here or over the pond because it suits their corporate and WIDER agenda...but i'll tell you one thing and that is, by having a racist and discreditable political party as the only one with an immigration policy: i.e "enough's enough"/close the borders, that most British ppl of whatever backround and colour agree on, the policy is itself discredited in the mainstream media and by the tweedledum and tweedledee tory and labour parties and ken from bros. libdems, by association ..."but that's what the BNP are arguing/are you a racist?" etc.,...that really should be clear to everyone...in all honesty it's not something i've made myself an authority on...but i've said for some time--while i was off-line for 3 years and only had msm accounts like the New Statesman/spectator/private eye to go off that Griffin is run by MI5; i instinctively thought so when i discovered he was at Cambridge University (oxbridge is still the biggest recruiting ground for intelligence officers of both 5 and 6--though ofcourse he is an agent not an officer--so how much more so back then in the late 70s/early 80s? and if you care to have a cursory scan at some of the websites you'll read about MI5's widely known involvement/infiltration of both the 'far' right (BNP) and the 'far' left (SWP/RCP etc.,)--common knowledge that such organisations as these are a veritable breeding ground for MI5 operatives who sow the seeds of disunity or even seize policy control so that they can steer the ship into the rocks or have it run aground at just the 'right' time!..declassified papers and what have you are the source for such an assertion...but yeah based on what i've read about Griffin and the political in-fighting of the right since the 80s i'm in no doubt whatsoever that he's owned and run by MI5...they (the BNP) will likely have a few minor triumphs here and there in predominantly white working class areas but it'll probably be more by accident than design..when your top man's a trojan horse it's only a matter of time before bitter recriminations/schisms develop and the whole thing implodes...or even better -is nicely contained and ticking along for years and of no account

i mean c'mon, imagine if the tories adopted the BNP's immigration policy!--they'd stroll into govt...it won't happen because the Establishment don't want it to...they want a mess...ordo ab chao...we know it back to front/ inside out/upside down here on Icke where it's no revelation at all.

the sad truth is politics isn't worth shit, we know that...it's a complete waste of time and energy to go into if you want to "make a difference" or effect "real change"...(they think that by SAYING it often enough ppl will believe it and sadly they're right)...change will have to come from without the political process and that means largely from within the individual...each of us must recognise that it is only through spiritual r-evolution that the political and economic elite will be defeated, that as Icke says "our thoughts create our reality"/if enough ppl in the know actually ADOPT this strategy and stopped looking without all the fucking time then we wouldn't be too far off the critical mass that's needed to bring the whole shithouse toppling down into the gutter where it belongs; and since it's a truism that God helps those who help themselves let's everyone start meditating for half an hour a day - building up the spiritual energy that will radically change the world we're living in for the better!-and i do mean radically!-it's the ONLY way forward: THEY WON'T KNOW WHAT HIT 'EM! the future is entirely in our/your hands! YOU!

ofcourse--just to backtrack a minute-- a certain amount of limited local change in the way of local initiatives with massive public demand and support can sometimes win out but by and large local govt's a closed freemasonic shop just like it is at westminster and brussels and in the law courts which makes the whole sinister enterprise possible; most--though not all--centres of political and economic power are stitched up like a kipper and i say so just on the off chance that someone is reading this for whom this is news!--a rag tag and bobtail outfit like the ber ner puh is just one of the blunter tools in the establishment's armoury used to hypnotise ppl into believing they have a say in how things are done...we don't/we never have...not really..not on a national scale...the ones who started out with pure ideals were slowly made to realise where the real power lay...

the agenda is predetermined and if occasionally things go awry (from their perspective) it's not too long before they're back on track...and the very fact of an unplanned diversion itself is subtly made to serve their ends...having said that, they are busy putting out more fires than in former times and with that in mind...let's create one great big fucking bonfire...

let's get properly spiritually focused and that way in the not-too-distant future the power we've accumulated in conjunction with the new higher frequencies pouring into the planet will offset and overcome any mind melding technology being used against us to keep us docile or in fear and allow us as One to utterly obliterate the institutions that have enslaved our consciousnesses for so many generations and this we shall accomplish without a single violent blow being exchanged!

All for One and One for All!

Wow Skylark! Wonderful post. I agree completely.