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pilgrim
20-04-2008, 09:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfRoJxv3nbY

For one day in the late 80's, deities of "Hindu" Gods began drinking the milk offered to them.
I remember this from the time on UK news. It was a worldwide phenomenom. ;)

blue
21-04-2008, 08:57 AM
LMFAO..........buwahahahaha.

blue
21-04-2008, 09:04 AM
I remember in my school days, when this funny thing happened. the people went crazy over the idols drinking the milk offered to them through spoons. I even saw couple of westerners dancing like mad in their orange clothes lol. But the real truth was revealed by a road side cobbler who used a spoon of milk to feed his tool and it drank (the milk is actually being drawn to the surface where it forms a nearly invisible coating. it took the form of the body and flowed all over).

dude get over this shit. nothing happens like this. these are just rumors which are spread by the conservatives (like you) to impose their beliefs on the innocent and also to divert people's attention from other important things in life.

Let the milk be used to feed the hungry children of africa instead of your stone carved gods.

octopusrex
21-04-2008, 05:14 PM
blue, i can tell you haven't been around much..

miracles happen every day

emerald
21-04-2008, 06:10 PM
It's tragic when all kinda BS are labelled as miracles...

2013
21-04-2008, 06:53 PM
It's tragic when all kinda BS are labelled as miracles...

That it may be but if you reduce the miraculous to fakery then we live in a very mundane world just like the one the PTB seem intent on creating for us .The use of technology real or imagined combined with fakery and skepticism really does reduce life to what food warmth and shelter .Is there no place for miracles at all ? Im not having a go here i dont follow any religion or belief system but there has to be the possibility of something more something we as yet do not as a whole accept as being a part of us and our nature :D

madthumbs
21-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Some of them you can actually see the milk dribbling down the front of them. Nice camera angles, and cut off points on others. :rolleyes:

Why is the world full of gullible people? Even people of one religion should be able to recognize that people who aren't in their religion are gullible?

pilgrim
21-04-2008, 09:01 PM
What is the message of The Milk Miracle?

S. Kumble wrote in his guest book entry: “I believe this miracle is an indication from God that he is present and ever ready to help us.”
This message is conveyed through an inoffensive, yet unmistakable and unprecedented, global sign. Let’s pray wholeheartedly that all those in doubt may find reaffirmation of their faith, regardless of their religion.

Why has the miracle occured only one day?

This is the crucial question. To prove the existence of the transcendental, it takes not more than one day. The free will of mankind is respected, doubts are allowed.

Why did the Gods take only milk (liquid) on that particular date?

Interesting question. Maybe nobody tried otherwise. Milk has a deep symbolic meaning, because it is the gift of the holiest animal (because of its complete selflessness and peacefulness): the cow, which is reigned by Bhumi Devi, which also is the supreme Deva for the planet earth. The Gods have accepted the offering of the suffering earth (humans as well as the entire animal kingdom).

Did other deities except Ganesha and Nandi accept the milk offer?

It seems as if the Gods enjoyed to play their “leela” with the believers and non-believers. A Krishna statue is reported to have accepted the milk offer, whereas Radha denied at the first try, but accepted it lateron.

Why did the Message spread out and moved millions so quickly to the temples, while mass media started reporting only the next day?

It appears as another miracle by itself that literally millions, who were just informed by word of mouth, got involved instantly. Because usually any news in the information age should have a hard time to penetrate through the umbrella of scepticism and elightenment of modern, overfed people, occupied with their day-to-day struggle.

Why didn’t the scientific community start a thorough investigation of the phenomeon?

This could be a perfect example of the incredible suggestive power of the mass media. Although none of the sceptics and so called atheists had an answer of why a “natural” phenomenon would happen only on that single day, they succeeded in quickly creating a climate of ridiculousness and embarassment against which it is quite difficult to stand out with ones own reputation, with the miracle having disappeared as quickly as it had begun. It is also an impressive proof, that the synchronized mass media are not headed towards the truth (rather the contrary) and that the majority of people have not the discrimination power to withstand (or better avoid) targeted disinformation and audio-visual conditioning.

Why can you see the milk running down the statue and all around the base like a sink full of milk if the statue drank it?

When thousands of people feed ten thousands of litres milk with nervous and excited hands, it is statistically inevitable that some litres are spilled.

http://www.milkmiracle.com/index.html

gods sun
21-04-2008, 10:44 PM
yer everyone will be turning lactose intolerant from drinking all the milk lol

pri01
21-04-2008, 10:49 PM
I would like to know if there is any evidence of the history of the first cow milk drinkers on the planet. I always think about mundane things such as this and that. Who was responsible for us being able to think about looking at grains of wheat and thinking, "I wonder if I can eat that?" With milk, "I wonder if I can move over to this strange big dangerous animal just after it has had a baby and squeeze its boobs?" I wonder why would they have wanted to do that if nutrition was naturally available? I'm sure we've been taught these skills. We must have, we would have starved and become extinct without this knowledge. We know nothing when we come into this world, everything is taught to us.

romas
21-04-2008, 11:45 PM
One would think Gods wouldnt need to live on wellfare ;)

It's like meeting a santa claus who is asking if you got some presents for him instead.

pilgrim
22-04-2008, 12:03 AM
One would think Gods wouldnt need to live on wellfare ;)
It's like meeting a santa claus who is asking if you got some presents for him instead.
Yes, God does not require our welfare.
Yet, when something is offered to God, it is like a child offering their father a sweet. Even though the father provided the sweets to the child in the first place, he is still pleased by his child's loving exchange. :)

blue
22-04-2008, 07:02 AM
blue, i can tell you haven't been around much..

miracles happen every day

sad but octo you were not there in bombay when this shit happened. the prices of milk soared up like anything. common man was forced to shell out triple the money to drink coffee, tea and milk. milk was flowing like water and the poor people out side the temples just looked at the wastage of milk. i can tell you havent been around there much.

blue
22-04-2008, 07:03 AM
What is the message of The Milk Miracle?

S. Kumble wrote in his guest book entry: “I believe this miracle is an indication from God that he is present and ever ready to help us.”
This message is conveyed through an inoffensive, yet unmistakable and unprecedented, global sign. Let’s pray wholeheartedly that all those in doubt may find reaffirmation of their faith, regardless of their religion.

Why has the miracle occured only one day?

This is the crucial question. To prove the existence of the transcendental, it takes not more than one day. The free will of mankind is respected, doubts are allowed.

Why did the Gods take only milk (liquid) on that particular date?

Interesting question. Maybe nobody tried otherwise. Milk has a deep symbolic meaning, because it is the gift of the holiest animal (because of its complete selflessness and peacefulness): the cow, which is reigned by Bhumi Devi, which also is the supreme Deva for the planet earth. The Gods have accepted the offering of the suffering earth (humans as well as the entire animal kingdom).

Did other deities except Ganesha and Nandi accept the milk offer?

It seems as if the Gods enjoyed to play their “leela” with the believers and non-believers. A Krishna statue is reported to have accepted the milk offer, whereas Radha denied at the first try, but accepted it lateron.

Why did the Message spread out and moved millions so quickly to the temples, while mass media started reporting only the next day?

It appears as another miracle by itself that literally millions, who were just informed by word of mouth, got involved instantly. Because usually any news in the information age should have a hard time to penetrate through the umbrella of scepticism and elightenment of modern, overfed people, occupied with their day-to-day struggle.

Why didn’t the scientific community start a thorough investigation of the phenomeon?

This could be a perfect example of the incredible suggestive power of the mass media. Although none of the sceptics and so called atheists had an answer of why a “natural” phenomenon would happen only on that single day, they succeeded in quickly creating a climate of ridiculousness and embarassment against which it is quite difficult to stand out with ones own reputation, with the miracle having disappeared as quickly as it had begun. It is also an impressive proof, that the synchronized mass media are not headed towards the truth (rather the contrary) and that the majority of people have not the discrimination power to withstand (or better avoid) targeted disinformation and audio-visual conditioning.

Why can you see the milk running down the statue and all around the base like a sink full of milk if the statue drank it?

When thousands of people feed ten thousands of litres milk with nervous and excited hands, it is statistically inevitable that some litres are spilled.

http://www.milkmiracle.com/index.html

A GRADE crap.

madthumbs
22-04-2008, 07:07 AM
What is the message of The Milk Miracle?

People in general are extremely gullible.

S. Kumble wrote in his guest book entry: “I believe this miracle is an indication from God that he is present and ever ready to help us."

Which is why we can see this miracle in effect for our own eyes today. :rolleyes:

This message is conveyed through an inoffensive, yet unmistakable and unprecedented, global sign. Let’s pray wholeheartedly that all those in doubt may find reaffirmation of their faith, regardless of their religion.

Regardless of religion? Clearly this is a promotion of religion which is the most effective from of mass mind control.

Why has the miracle occured only one day?

Because it would be totally debunked as a hoax if it persisted.

Why did the Gods take only milk (liquid) on that particular date?

Did the video include offerings of water? :rolleyes:

Why did the Message spread out and moved millions so quickly to the temples, while mass media started reporting only the next day?

huh? -lol, Does this make sense?

Why didn’t the scientific community start a thorough investigation of the phenomeon?

Because it lasted for a mere day, or because it was so obvious that it was a hoax?

blue
22-04-2008, 12:49 PM
Top post madthumbs, you busted the hoax.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/sohail84/busted.jpg

octopusrex
22-04-2008, 06:14 PM
sad but octo you were not there in bombay when this shit happened. the prices of milk soared up like anything. common man was forced to shell out triple the money to drink coffee, tea and milk. milk was flowing like water and the poor people out side the temples just looked at the wastage of milk. i can tell you havent been around there much.

Can't say I've been to Bombay, but I have seen nuff shit to know miracles do happen, and I suspect India is ripe with them. If you know how to look.

mr_kiz
22-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Busted? Its not effing hard is it now.

Also, blue, your explanation of it sounds like a kindergarden kid has thought of a way to explain something they don't understand.

also, it got a bit of media in Manchester and around there for the same thing in the 90's.

Now I know miracles probably don't happen, as do you, but you don't need to be a bitch in stating your opinion on it do you? :)

lifeofbrian
22-04-2008, 06:56 PM
Now I know miracles probably don't happen, as do you, but you don't need to be a bitch in stating your opinion on it do you? :)

Depends on the sensitivity of those reading it, really, however I agree we don't need more people getting banned.

bigus_dickus
22-04-2008, 09:56 PM
What is the message of The Milk Miracle?

it makes me ask questions :)

S. Kumble wrote in his guest book entry: “I believe this miracle is an indication from God that he is present and ever ready to help us.”

why? is there any indication that the statues digest the milk and discard the waste? what kind of digestive system do they have? or does the milk just disappear? if yes, then why does it drip and get collected at the bottom?

To prove the existence of the transcendental, it takes not more than one day.

why?

what is one day? is it one complete revolution of the earth on its axis, or is it during the hours of daytime?

The free will of mankind is respected, doubts are allowed.

that's good to know. it would be better if i also knew by whom they are allowed (or not).

Milk has a deep symbolic meaning, because it is the gift of the holiest animal: the cow

it is also the "gift" of all mammals including (oh yes) humans. but it has a deep symbolic meaning, just because cows are mammals too?

The Gods have accepted the offering of the suffering earth (humans as well as the entire animal kingdom).

what would have happened if the gods didn't accept the offering of the suffering of the humans? does the rest of the animal kingdom make similar offerings to the gods as well because of their suffering? any examples for this?

It seems as if the Gods enjoyed to play their “leela” with the believers and non-believers. A Krishna statue is reported to have accepted the milk offer, whereas Radha denied at the first try, but accepted it lateron.

do you mean that these gods function through statues? why don't they just make the milk disappear without having to use the statues?

It appears as another miracle by itself that literally millions, who were just informed by word of mouth, got involved instantly. Because usually any news in the information age should have a hard time to penetrate through the umbrella of scepticism and elightenment of modern, overfed people, occupied with their day-to-day struggle.

i am not occupied with day-to-day struggle and i don't really feel i am overfed, unless i have eaten too much. does this mean that i am not skeptical and enlightened and i am somehow prone to be involved instantly?

When thousands of people feed ten thousands of litres milk with nervous and excited hands, it is statistically inevitable that some litres are spilled.

why don't the gods make all the milk disappear then so that the people don't have to clean up all this mess afterwards?

oh.. an idea. if gods can drink it, it can be sold. at a "godly" price too.

madthumbs
22-04-2008, 10:23 PM
Yes, God does not require our welfare.
Yet, when something is offered to God, it is like a child offering their father a sweet. Even though the father provided the sweets to the child in the first place, he is still pleased by his child's loving exchange. :)

How do you give God something? -You don't. Instead money is given to some con-artist who happens to get tax free breaks and favors for their position.

pilgrim
22-04-2008, 10:52 PM
How do you give God something?

To use the same example:
The child (us) cannot actually GIVE the sweet (offering) to his father (God) because the sweets belong to the father anyway.
He doesn't need the sweet, but he appreciates his child's LOVE in giving him the sweet.
God does not need anything from us (He created everything that exists) but he will accept and return our LOVE.
Not just for Him, but for every living thing. Infinite LOVE. :)
He will also negate the Karmic reactions to the "killing" of the plants, and the soul that occupied the plant will also receive spiritual benefit.

As a devotee of Krishna/God i offer all my (vegetarian) food to Him before i eat it.
He does'nt physically eat the food (though there are times when this happens!).
The "Milk Miracle" was just one example that the mass-media could not ignore because of it happening all over the world on the same day.
These "Miracles" are far from rare.

In 'Bhagavad-gita' 9.26 Krishna says:

SANSKRIT:
patram puspam phalam toyam
yo me bhaktya prayacchati
tad aham bhakty-upahrtam
asnami prayatatmanah

TRANSLATION:
If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it.

PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada:
Here Lord Krsna, having established that He is the only enjoyer, the primeval Lord, and the real object of all sacrificial offerings, reveals what types of sacrifices He desires to be offered. If one wishes to engage in devotional service to the Supreme in order to be purified and reach the goal of life--the transcendental loving service of God--then he should find out what the Lord desires of him. One who loves Krsna will give Him whatever He wants, and he avoids offering anything which is undesirable or unasked for. Thus, meat, fish and eggs should not be offered to Krsna. If He desired such things as offerings, He would have said so. Instead He clearly requests that a leaf, fruit, flowers and water be given to Him, and He says of this offering, "I will accept it." Therefore, we should understand that He will not accept meat, fish and eggs. Vegetables, grains, fruits, milk and water are the proper foods for human beings and are prescribed by Lord Krsna Himself. Whatever else we eat cannot be offered to Him, since He will not accept it. Thus we cannot be acting on the level of loving devotion if we offer such foods.

In the Third Chapter, verse thirteen, Sri Krsna explains that only the remains of sacrifice are purified and fit for consumption by those who are seeking advancement in life and release from the clutches of the material entanglement. Those who do not make an offering of their food, He says in the same verse, are said to be eating only sin. In other words, their every mouthful is simply deepening their involvement in the complexities of material nature. But preparing nice, simple vegetable dishes, offering them before the picture or Deity of Lord Krsna and bowing down and praying for Him to accept such a humble offering, enable one to advance steadily in life, to purify the body, and to create fine brain tissues which will lead to clear thinking. Above all, the offering should be made with an attitude of love. Krsna has no need of food, since He already possesses everything that be, yet He will accept the offering of one who desires to please Him in that way. The important element, in preparation, in serving and in offering, is to act with love for Krsna.

The impersonalist philosophers, who wish to maintain that the Absolute Truth is without senses, cannot comprehend this verse of Bhagavad-gita. To them, it is either a metaphor or proof of the mundane character of Krsna, the speaker of the Gita. But, in actuality, Krsna, the Supreme Godhead, has senses, and it is stated that His senses are interchangeable; in other words, one sense can perform the function of any other. This is what it means to say that Krsna is absolute. Lacking senses, He could hardly be considered full in all opulences. In the Seventh Chapter, Krsna has explained that He impregnates the living entities into material nature. This is done by His looking upon material nature. And so in this instance, Krsna's hearing the devotee's words of love in offering foodstuffs is wholly identical with His eating and actually tasting. This point should be emphasized: because of His absolute position, His hearing is wholly identical with His eating and tasting. Only the devotee, who accepts Krsna as He describes Himself, without interpretation, can understand that the Supreme Absolute Truth can eat food and enjoy it.

http://vedabase.net/bg/9/en

blue
23-04-2008, 05:21 AM
Can't say I've been to Bombay, but I have seen nuff shit to know miracles do happen, and I suspect India is ripe with them. If you know how to look.

yea india is ripe with such stupid miracles....like this one

"A male police officer in India has declared himself to be the reincarnation of Radha, the female consort of the Hindu god Krishna. Naturally, he dresses the part: Devendra Kumar Panda, a 1971 batch officer of the Indian Police Service (IPS), presents an odd sight draped in female attire - complete with nose ring, lipstick, finger and toe nails painted red - and singing hymns in praise of Lord Krishna and dancing. "Lord Krishna has himself assigned me the role of Radha and whatever I am doing is in pursuance of his wishes," 57-year-old Panda told IANS.

http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/sohail84/igpuniformradha.jpg
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff176/sohail84/cr_ips_officer_devendra_kumar_panda.jpg

However, his wife isn't buying any of it:

On Saturday, Panda chose to put up a full-scale performance before a host of TV cameras in his house. "I see nothing wrong with this. After all, I am carrying out the will of almighty Lord Krishna," he said. An unimpressed Veena has declared her husband as "fake" and refuses to believe his claims about divinity. "He is indulging in all other normal activities, and even chats on the Internet. I am sure all this façade is put up by him to find some excuse for remaining in the company of women, whom he describes as 'Krishna's gopis'," she alleged.

As strategies for picking up women go, that's a pretty elaborate one. I wonder if it actually works."

the truth is he is not radha he just likes to cross dress. not just hindu miracles.......there are muslim miracles which have a strong backing up of adobe photoshop effects.

blue
23-04-2008, 05:22 AM
To use the same example:
The child (us) cannot actually GIVE the sweet (offering) to his father (God) because the sweets belong to the father anyway.
He doesn't need the sweet, but he appreciates his child's LOVE in giving him the sweet.
God does not need anything from us (He created everything that exists) but he will accept and return our LOVE.
Not just for Him, but for every living thing. Infinite LOVE. :)
He will also negate the Karmic reactions to the "killing" of the plants, and the soul that occupied the plant will also receive spiritual benefit.

As a devotee of Krishna/God i offer all my (vegetarian) food to Him before i eat it.
He does'nt physically eat the food (though there are times when this happens!).
The "Milk Miracle" was just one example that the mass-media could not ignore because of it happening all over the world on the same day.
These "Miracles" are far from rare.

In 'Bhagavad-gita' 9.26 Krishna says:

SANSKRIT:
patram puspam phalam toyam
yo me bhaktya prayacchati
tad aham bhakty-upahrtam
asnami prayatatmanah

TRANSLATION:
If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it.

PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada:
Here Lord Krsna, having established that He is the only enjoyer, the primeval Lord, and the real object of all sacrificial offerings, reveals what types of sacrifices He desires to be offered. If one wishes to engage in devotional service to the Supreme in order to be purified and reach the goal of life--the transcendental loving service of God--then he should find out what the Lord desires of him. One who loves Krsna will give Him whatever He wants, and he avoids offering anything which is undesirable or unasked for. Thus, meat, fish and eggs should not be offered to Krsna. If He desired such things as offerings, He would have said so. Instead He clearly requests that a leaf, fruit, flowers and water be given to Him, and He says of this offering, "I will accept it." Therefore, we should understand that He will not accept meat, fish and eggs. Vegetables, grains, fruits, milk and water are the proper foods for human beings and are prescribed by Lord Krsna Himself. Whatever else we eat cannot be offered to Him, since He will not accept it. Thus we cannot be acting on the level of loving devotion if we offer such foods.

In the Third Chapter, verse thirteen, Sri Krsna explains that only the remains of sacrifice are purified and fit for consumption by those who are seeking advancement in life and release from the clutches of the material entanglement. Those who do not make an offering of their food, He says in the same verse, are said to be eating only sin. In other words, their every mouthful is simply deepening their involvement in the complexities of material nature. But preparing nice, simple vegetable dishes, offering them before the picture or Deity of Lord Krsna and bowing down and praying for Him to accept such a humble offering, enable one to advance steadily in life, to purify the body, and to create fine brain tissues which will lead to clear thinking. Above all, the offering should be made with an attitude of love. Krsna has no need of food, since He already possesses everything that be, yet He will accept the offering of one who desires to please Him in that way. The important element, in preparation, in serving and in offering, is to act with love for Krsna.

The impersonalist philosophers, who wish to maintain that the Absolute Truth is without senses, cannot comprehend this verse of Bhagavad-gita. To them, it is either a metaphor or proof of the mundane character of Krsna, the speaker of the Gita. But, in actuality, Krsna, the Supreme Godhead, has senses, and it is stated that His senses are interchangeable; in other words, one sense can perform the function of any other. This is what it means to say that Krsna is absolute. Lacking senses, He could hardly be considered full in all opulences. In the Seventh Chapter, Krsna has explained that He impregnates the living entities into material nature. This is done by His looking upon material nature. And so in this instance, Krsna's hearing the devotee's words of love in offering foodstuffs is wholly identical with His eating and actually tasting. This point should be emphasized: because of His absolute position, His hearing is wholly identical with His eating and tasting. Only the devotee, who accepts Krsna as He describes Himself, without interpretation, can understand that the Supreme Absolute Truth can eat food and enjoy it.

http://vedabase.net/bg/9/en

no, you just changed track. stick on to the milk miracle.

blue
23-04-2008, 05:27 AM
Busted? Its not effing hard is it now.

Also, blue, your explanation of it sounds like a kindergarden kid has thought of a way to explain something they don't understand.

also, it got a bit of media in Manchester and around there for the same thing in the 90's.

Now I know miracles probably don't happen, as do you, but you don't need to be a bitch in stating your opinion on it do you? :)

you know sometimes kindergarten kids ask some questions which even mature adults cant answer and if you think im being a bitch in exposing these false miracles then so be it...what you think of me doesn't fit into my reality.

pilgrim
23-04-2008, 05:33 AM
yea india is ripe with such stupid miracles....like this one

"A male police officer in India has declared himself to be the reincarnation of Radha, the female consort of the Hindu god Krishna. Naturally, he dresses the part: Devendra Kumar Panda, a 1971 batch officer of the Indian Police Service (IPS), presents an odd sight draped in female attire - complete with nose ring, lipstick, finger and toe nails painted red - and singing hymns in praise of Lord Krishna and dancing. "Lord Krishna has himself assigned me the role of Radha and whatever I am doing is in pursuance of his wishes," 57-year-old Panda told IANS.
That is not a "miracle". That is an obviously crazy man who also likes to dress as a woman!

blue
23-04-2008, 05:36 AM
That is not a "miracle". That is an obviously crazy man who also likes to dress as a woman!

Lord krishna came in to his dream and asked him to do what he has said and to be his radha.......same with the milk miracle....the preist saw in his dream that ganesha wants to drink milk. gods coming in their dreams.

pilgrim
23-04-2008, 05:37 AM
if you think im being a bitch in exposing these false miracles then so be it...what you think of me doesn't fit into my reality.
You have exposed nothing but your own narrow-mindedness and arrogance. :)

blue
23-04-2008, 05:38 AM
You have exposed nothing but your own narrow-mindedness and arrogance. :)

you have proved nothing but imposing your beliefs on the innocents that shows your arrogance and intolerance towards other peoples interests.

pilgrim
23-04-2008, 05:43 AM
you have proved nothing but imposing your beliefs on the innocents that shows your arrogance and intolerance towards other peoples interests.
"Imposing my beliefs on the innocents"? :rolleyes:

pilgrim
23-04-2008, 05:46 AM
Lord krishna came in to his dream and asked him to do what he has said and to be his radha.......same with the milk miracle....the preist saw in his dream that ganesha wants to drink milk. gods coming in their dreams.
You're babbling now. Why not stop before you make more of a fool of yourself?

nessa felagund
23-04-2008, 05:51 AM
no need to resort to name calling here--stick to the topic, please :)

nessa felagund
23-04-2008, 05:54 AM
thanks, pilgrim :)

pilgrim
23-04-2008, 05:54 AM
no need to resort to name calling here--stick to the topic, please :)
Sorry, i should know by now just to ignore Trolls. ;)

nessa felagund
23-04-2008, 05:56 AM
that's always good advice :)

i have enjoyed reading through this thread which is why i was here--i like a lively debate :D

mr_kiz
23-04-2008, 05:12 PM
you know sometimes kindergarten kids ask some questions which even mature adults cant answer and if you think im being a bitch in exposing these false miracles then so be it...what you think of me doesn't fit into my reality.

I didn't say that.

I said you were for you chosen way of portraiting it.

you seem like someone who believes they've opened there mind but at the same time has closed there mind to everything else.

/end

blue
23-04-2008, 05:55 PM
You're babbling now. Why not stop before you make more of a fool of yourself?

lol......it shows your ignorance.

blue
23-04-2008, 05:56 PM
Sorry, i should know by now just to ignore Trolls. ;)

but you cant.........coz your lord krishna hasnt taught you to be tolerant or is it you havent learnt it yet.

blue
23-04-2008, 05:57 PM
"Imposing my beliefs on the innocents"? :rolleyes:

yes....just do a self check.

blue
23-04-2008, 06:05 PM
I would like to know if there is any evidence of the history of the first cow milk drinkers on the planet. I always think about mundane things such as this and that. Who was responsible for us being able to think about looking at grains of wheat and thinking, "I wonder if I can eat that?" With milk, "I wonder if I can move over to this strange big dangerous animal just after it has had a baby and squeeze its boobs?" I wonder why would they have wanted to do that if nutrition was naturally available? I'm sure we've been taught these skills. We must have, we would have starved and become extinct without this knowledge. We know nothing when we come into this world, everything is taught to us.

sumerian mythology describes about the dispute between cattle and grain. it describes how the intelligent beings were vegetarians and fed on leaves and plants. at that time the atmosphere of earth was stable and moist. physical conditions however began to change drastically. the land was drying out. the changing climate was no longer suitable to the intelligent beings and the vegetation was declining. it also describes how they had created two goddesses: goddess Lahat (the cattle goddess) and goddess ashnan (the grain goddess) to teach them to feed. this experiment however failed. it states that the modern was created. it was only when the water and vegetation was becoming scarce that they turned to eating flesh of animal and also of their creation man.