Warn The Kids Immediately

[secondfamilyuk]

Petition for parents to warn their children about the corrupt Secret Societies

Can you please sign and promote our latest petition. We all have to expose the main problem as much as we can.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/163724142

Sorry for offending some in our last newsletter as it was directed towards politicians and media and not to individual activists.

Still love you and keep up the great fight. We are all definitely winning and we at SF predict a huge corruption bubble to burst very, very soon.

If you do nothing, then we all go down.

Joe Stirling www.secondfamily-uk.com

[danielson23uk]

Petition for parents to warn their children about the corrupt Secret Societies

Can you please sign and promote our latest petition. We all have to expose the main problem as much as we can.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/163724142

Sorry for offending some in our last newsletter as it was directed towards politicians and media and not to individual activists.

Still love you and keep up the great fight. We are all definitely winning and we at SF predict a huge corruption bubble to burst very, very soon.

If you do nothing, then we all go down.

Joe Stirling www.secondfamily-uk.com
Your the only person guilty of persecuting people Joe you Freak!

[secondfamilyuk]

danielson the freekmason, you are angry, that makes us very happy-
the truth will out and you WILL be exposed for your part in this criminal organisation. you are a masonic troll spewing masonic misinformation

quick, stand to attention. here comes your controller.

don't worry, drone second family will save you. Chas

[danielson23uk]

danielson the freekmason, you are angry, that makes us very happy-
the truth will out and you WILL be exposed for your part in this criminal organisation. you are a masonic troll spewing masonic misinformation

quick, stand to attention. here comes your controller.

don't worry, drone second family will save you. Chas

LOL. I hope so. I could do with a laugh. It would be nice to see some credence to your accusations.

[damagedbrainn]

"They are the most evil things to breathe on this planet..... We have a register of tens of thousands of Masons in the UK and more added every week. All we have to do is drive by with an Hard Drive Disc and film their house and vehicle. They are full of Masonic symbols, letters and numbers, especially their vehicle registrations. We can spot the Masons better than their members, because we have ex-Masons on board."


When's the march and what color arm-bands will you all be wearing?

Fuckin' creepy. No thanks.

[secondfamilyuk]

Hi, Danielson23uk,
if you want a laugh look in mirror
we know you get paid for trolling
just look at your posts everywhere
every day 7/24/365 in every possible
place world wide, why ?

not even you know why you do it
but you will not stop till the day
you die, you are in denial.

full time job protecting a criminal
cult that just destroys society

simple logic, take the batteries out
of your torch, it will not shine.

you can't, you are a freekmason.

Joe Stirling

[danielson23uk]

"They are the most evil things to breathe on this planet..... We have a register of tens of thousands of Masons in the UK and more added every week. All we have to do is drive by with an Hard Drive Disc and film their house and vehicle. They are full of Masonic symbols, letters and numbers, especially their vehicle registrations. We can spot the Masons better than their members, because we have ex-Masons on board."


When's the march and what color arm-bands will you all be wearing?

Fuckin' creepy. No thanks.

Lol. Keep going Chas or Joe (whoever you want to be). I've been on here for a fortnight trying to convince people we're not the enemy and you do it in 2 posts!!!:D

[danielson23uk]

Hi, Danielson23uk,
if you want a laugh look in mirror
we know you get paid for trolling
just look at your posts everywhere
every day 7/24/365 in every possible
place world wide, why ?

not even you know why you do it
but you will not stop till the day
you die, you are in denial.

full time job protecting a criminal
cult that just destroys society

simple logic, take the batteries out
of your torch, it will not shine.

you can't, you are a freekmason.

Joe Stirling
I only post on here, TFM and LodgeroomUK. Get paid? I'd loved to get paid for talking to cocks like you. Talk about money for old rope!

simple logic, take the batteries out
of your torch, it will not shine.
Much like removing simple thought processes about ludicrous allegations will always lead to an agreement.

[damagedbrainn]

And this is real nice....You also have a website called "Murdering Masons":

http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/

(found through this site: http://www.masonicinfo.com/others_pg2.htm )

Maybe it's just a figure of speech......

[danielson23uk]

Petition for parents to warn their children about the corrupt Secret Societies

Can you please sign and promote our latest petition. We all have to expose the main problem as much as we can.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/163724142

Sorry for offending some in our last newsletter as it was directed towards politicians and media and not to individual activists.

Still love you and keep up the great fight. We are all definitely winning and we at SF predict a huge corruption bubble to burst very, very soon.

If you do nothing, then we all go down.

Joe Stirling www.secondfamily-uk.com
Why on earth would anyone want to sign a petition to lobby parents to warn their children about Freemasons? I mean for fucks sake, warn them about talking to strangers or not telling their parents where they're going but this is utter madness.

So how does Second Family propose on telling children how to spot a Freemason? What sort of scare tactics will you have your children exposed to just to support an anti-freemasonry propaganda campaign? Will it involve advising children to cross dangerous roads rather than walk past the house of a Freemason?

Don't you all think that children have got enough to worry about without a silly manifestation from a few small minded individuals who play on the emotions of parents to support their own agenda?

Idiots.

[secondfamilyuk]

www.murderingmasons.co.uk Website absolutely nothing to do with me, just more terrified victims (if you include his family) of Freekmasonry
They are SF members and have my permission to use my name for publicity reasons only. We all want our stories out.

http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ has also been hacked beyond repair by, guess who ? correct, freekmasons.

There you guys go again, trying to defend your brainwash and wasting our valuable time. Never trust a word from a masonic mouth, they are prolific liars.

We also know that most of you trolls are just one or two freekmasons with different nicknames, so blah, blah till you are BLUE, heh heh in the face
Now fcuk off and stop wasting truth-seekers time. tick tock tick

Joseph Christie Stirling

[danielson23uk]

www.murderingmasons.co.uk Website absolutely nothing to do with me, just more terrified victims (if you include his family) of Freekmasonry
They are SF members and have my permission to use my name for publicity reasons only. We all want our stories out.

http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ has also been hacked beyond repair by, guess who ? correct, freekmasons.

There you guys go again, trying to defend your brainwash and wasting our valuable time. Never trust a word from a masonic mouth, they are prolific liars.

We also know that most of you trolls are just one or two freekmasons with different nicknames, so blah, blah till you are BLUE, heh heh in the face
Now fcuk off and stop wasting truth-seekers time. tick tock tick

Joseph Christie Stirling
I must say how brave it is of you to show your face on David Icke's site. At least here people listen to both sides of the argument. They can believe what they want and make their own decisions. That's not something that SF provides is it. We're not trolls and have never behaved in a 'trolling' manner. Thanks to us people get a balanced debate regardless of whether they agree or not. All you provide is hate and lunacy.

As for us having multiple usernames, the Moderators should be able to see our IP addresses and will know we're not alias' of each other. Whereas you have so far signed off as Joe Stirling, Chas, Second Family and Joseph Christie Stirling. So who is trying to hoodwink who here?

Like I say Joe or Chas, keep it up. You're doing us a wonderful service.

[chrism]

www.murderingmasons.co.uk Website absolutely nothing to do with me, just more terrified victims (if you include his family) of Freekmasonry
They are SF members and have my permission to use my name for publicity reasons only. We all want our stories out.

http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ has also been hacked beyond repair by, guess who ? correct, freekmasons.

There you guys go again, trying to defend your brainwash and wasting our valuable time. Never trust a word from a masonic mouth, they are prolific liars.

We also know that most of you trolls are just one or two freekmasons with different nicknames, so blah, blah till you are BLUE, heh heh in the face
Now fcuk off and stop wasting truth-seekers time. tick tock tick

Joseph Christie Stirling

The truth seekers on here see through this, Joe. Warning children about a society of every-day men, in jobs of every description throughout the whole of civilisation? How is that even possible?

Oh - WE WANT YOUR STORIES OUT TOO - you keep randomly slandering masonry without any sort of proof. Let me ask: How long ago were you black-balled, and do you have any idea whether it was because you are a paranoid control freak, or did they just not like you?

C

[chrism]

signed off as Joe Stirling, Chas, Second Family and Joseph Christie Stirling. So who is trying to hoodwink who here?

Or Brian. Who can forget Brian?!?

OK - so Joe and Joseph are similar...

The masons are here on an openly anti-masonic site to answer questions. Do you not think the Mods are keeping an eye on this anyway, Joe?

I think that although there are many people on this site who I do not see eye to eye with, the majority are willing to listen to both sides of an open discussion and make their minds up. They can only do this when you start providing evidence.

Oh - I see the problem now...

Chris

[secondfamilyuk]

dyou remember the banana bunch ? they were YELLOW the Freekmasons 2nd favourit color. Represents the sun and the song went tra la la, la la la la
one donkey mason-couldn't talk true tra la la :D

[danielson23uk]

dyou remember the banana bunch ? they were YELLOW the Freekmasons 2nd favourit color. Represents the sun and the song went tra la la, la la la la
one donkey mason-couldn't talk true tra la la :D

And there you have it. Who can argue with honesty like that!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D LMFAO, ROFLMAO

You complete Bell End!

[barney_rubble]

I just laugh and laugh. I find this site much more entertaining then the mason forum that i usually post on.

[eternal_spirit]

To the Masons here's a comparison ( If I where a dedicated Christian or what ever religion ) And I was here too say all Christians are good and never do wrong, you'd smell the bull and say I was lying or deluded right? And of coure you'd be right.

[barney_rubble]

To the Masons here's a comparison ( If I where a dedicated Christian or what ever religion ) And I was here too say all Christians are good and never do wrong, you'd smell the bull and say I was lying or deluded right? And of coure you'd be right.

I don't think any Mason here has said that "all Masons are good and never do wrong".

In fact I have read a number of times where it is said and I am paraphrasing here,
"Yes, freemasonry has a few bad apples but so does the rest of society.
Don't throw out the whole basket for a few bad apples."

[danielson23uk]

To the Masons here's a comparison ( If I where a dedicated Christian or what ever religion ) And I was here too say all Christians are good and never do wrong, you'd smell the bull and say I was lying or deluded right? And of coure you'd be right.

Ok, listen. Your question is rhetorical so I'll just comment on it as long as you promise to listen this time.

I agree with your comments. Because we all know that not all Christians are good and never do wrong. But no one here has ever said that about Freemasons. There was an entire conversation about villains who were masons. We're not disputing that. There are 'nasty people' in all walks of life. That doesn't mean that they ALL are either does it?

Apart from on here I doubt that many people could argue with the principles and tenets of Christianity. There is a general consensus that regardless of what religion, the moral lessons are good. So because not all Christians are good people does that make Christianity bad? (rhetorical question) No of course not. No more than Islamic Jihadists make Islam bad.

So why does Freemasonry take the brunt of the scorn because not all Freemasons are saints?

[chrism]

You complete Bell End!

D'you know I was searching for ages for an intelligent, succinct and expressive way to sum up this person, and could not find one. Then you come along with this one.

I bow to the master!

[manchurian_candidate]

If you are trying to warn us about Freemasons, may I suggest that you take a different approach as the one you are taking now is not really getting your intended message across. That is only my opinion...

I just think if you provided facts instead of scare-mongering then it might be taken a tad more seriously???

Also, I have to say that the masons on this forum are being very civil given the nature of some of the posts :cool:

[chrism]

Also, I have to say that the masons on this forum are being very civil given the nature of some of the posts :cool:

I am glad you think so!

To be honest, we have come across this/these poster/s so many times that our answers are usually fairly straightforward. Provide Proof... Unfounded allegations etc.

Besides, if we were not civil, how would that portray freemasons. Enough people think what we do is somehow wrong as it is, without launching into someone for their beliefs.

I personally find it quite amusing that they think that the regulars on this board would take them seriously at all!

Chris

[manchurian_candidate]

I am glad you think so!

To be honest, we have come across this/these poster/s so many times that our answers are usually fairly straightforward. Provide Proof... Unfounded allegations etc.

Besides, if we were not civil, how would that portray freemasons. Enough people think what we do is somehow wrong as it is, without launching into someone for their beliefs.
I personally find it quite amusing that they think that the regulars on this board would take them seriously at all!

Chris

That is a very good point actually, I hadnt thought of that!

[damagedbrainn]

www.murderingmasons.co.uk Website absolutely nothing to do with me, just more terrified victims (if you include his family) of Freekmasonry
They are SF members and have my permission to use my name for publicity reasons only. We all want our stories out.

http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ has also been hacked beyond repair by, guess who ? correct, freekmasons.

There you guys go again, trying to defend your brainwash and wasting our valuable time. Never trust a word from a masonic mouth, they are prolific liars.

We also know that most of you trolls are just one or two freekmasons with different nicknames, so blah, blah till you are BLUE, heh heh in the face
Now fcuk off and stop wasting truth-seekers time. tick tock tick

Joseph Christie Stirling

I guess you all use the same web designer, huh?

Sorry, but this just seems like more phony-ass bullshit. You claim this to be a relatively large group of people, yet why hasn't anyone heard of it before? It seems to have just popped up out of nowhere. The only reason some Masons have heard of you is because you pretty much harass them around the internet (quite hypocritical of you, to be honest).

You claim to be offering help to people who have been "victims" freemasonry, yet you give no explanation as to what sort of "help" your group provides. And to top it off, you've been spamming the shit out of various message boards, blogs, and even news articles:

http://www.google.com/search?q=secondfamily+donations&hl=en&safe=off&start=0&sa=N

...with your "information", and asking for donations, of course. What are those donations for? Like I said, you give no clear indication as to what your organization does, therefore, there's no real indication of what the money will be used for. Is it expensive to post links to online petitions? I think this is quite a relevant question considering what you're accusing Masons of doing.

[danielson23uk]

If you are trying to warn us about Freemasons, may I suggest that you take a different approach as the one you are taking now is not really getting your intended message across. That is only my opinion...

I just think if you provided facts instead of scare-mongering then it might be taken a tad more seriously???

Also, I have to say that the masons on this forum are being very civil given the nature of some of the posts :cool:

Thanks Manchurian Candidate. I'm glad our efforts aren't going unnoticed even if you don't necessarily agree.

[damagedbrainn]

And as far as http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ and its webmaster "Stan Cumans" goes, you can see a discussion involving him on the abovetopsecret forum where he clearly demonstrates that he doesn't have a friggin' clue as to what he's talking about, either concerning Masonry or apparently UK traffic laws:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread72937/pg1

[danielson23uk]

And as far as http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ and its webmaster "Stan Cumans" goes, you can see a discussion involving him on the abovetopsecret forum where he clearly demonstrates that he doesn't have a friggin' clue as to what he's talking about, either concerning Masonry or apparently UK traffic laws:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread72937/pg1

damagedbrainn, I really can't face reading it so I'll take your word for it. If it's anything like Second Family it sickens me.

[chrism]

damagedbrainn, I really can't face reading it so I'll take your word for it. If it's anything like Second Family it sickens me.

I have had a read - same as usual but if anything a little more desperate and actually amusing if you know where they are really coming from.

For those who don't it still reads as a horror story, no wonder they have had as many as 39 people sign the petition so far.

Worrying times indeed,

Chris

[secondfamilyuk]

r u masonic geezers trying to convince yourselves ? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahaha ha

[krakhead]

And as far as http://www.murderingmasons.co.uk/ and its webmaster "Stan Cumans" goes, you can see a discussion involving him on the abovetopsecret forum where he clearly demonstrates that he doesn't have a friggin' clue as to what he's talking about, either concerning Masonry or apparently UK traffic laws:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread72937/pg1


Just had a peek at murderingmasons - something tells me that the people behind it aren't the sharpest tools in the kit! For example They are sexist, 50% of the population are not allowed to attend their meetings , namely females (bold added by me)

Is it just me or does this read as a particularly redundant statement?

[the duke]

Petition for parents to warn their children about the corrupt Secret Societies

Can you please sign and promote our latest petition. We all have to expose the main problem as much as we can.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/163724142

Sorry for offending some in our last newsletter as it was directed towards politicians and media and not to individual activists.

Still love you and keep up the great fight. We are all definitely winning and we at SF predict a huge corruption bubble to burst very, very soon.

If you do nothing, then we all go down.

Joe Stirling www.secondfamily-uk.com

Hi there SFUK, can I ask you what your story is, how you've got to this position in life where you feel you need to protect the world from Freemasonry!?! Was there any one thing that tipped the balance to make you dedicate your life to going on Forums and set up websites.

Whether you are right or wrong, the one thing that worries me about your message is that you seem filled with hate and anger, and that's no good mate, it turns people away. You can do better than that, put forward some logical substantive arguments based on common peer-assessed facts, not theory, then you will not look like somebody who is just passionate about a jumbled mess of weak logic and theories.

[perry_mason]

Petition for parents to warn their children about the corrupt Secret Societies

Can you please sign and promote our latest petition. We all have to expose the main problem as much as we can.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/163724142

Sorry for offending some in our last newsletter as it was directed towards politicians and media and not to individual activists.

Still love you and keep up the great fight. We are all definitely winning and we at SF predict a huge corruption bubble to burst very, very soon.

If you do nothing, then we all go down.

Joe Stirling www.secondfamily-uk.com

Wow, your crusade is gathering pace Joe, your up to 30 signatures now! Including yourself!

I am slightly concerned about your statement:

"This has to be stopped or we all go down"

Seriously Joe, I don't know what you've heard but I don't swing that way.

[jacob sladder]

Could I ask - are the people who are 'Second Family' and post here, all aged about 12 years old?

(No offence to any 12 year olds who may use this forum....;))

[manchurian_candidate]

Thanks Manchurian Candidate. I'm glad our efforts aren't going unnoticed even if you don't necessarily agree.

No problem :cool:

[manchurian_candidate]

Only the CEO I think... the rest are ex members of the red hand gang!.:D

HAHAHA!!! Nice one!

He hasnt explained himself or anything when being asked to provide proof. I dont understand why he wouldnt want to imo. :confused:

[danielson23uk]

HAHAHA!!! Nice one!

He hasnt explained himself or anything when being asked to provide proof. I dont understand why he wouldnt want to imo. :confused:

MC he's been trolling one of our sites for ages. We ended up having to lock his threads because his only goal is to antagonise us. If he wasn't being persecuted before, it's hardly surprising if he is now.

[manchurian_candidate]

MC he's been trolling one of our sites for ages. We ended up having to lock his threads because his only goal is to antagonise us. If he wasn't being persecuted before, it's hardly surprising if he is now.

Well I am sure the mods are keeping their (third?! :D) eye on him on this site too. :)

[danielson23uk]

Well I am sure the mods are keeping their (third?! :D) eye on him on this site too. :)
Maybe they should use the other 2 because he's ridiculing any tangible theory.

[mike martin]

If you are trying to warn us about Freemasons, may I suggest that you take a different approach as the one you are taking now is not really getting your intended message across. That is only my opinion...

I just think if you provided facts instead of scare-mongering then it might be taken a tad more seriously???

I'm afraid that you are exepecting way too much from the 2ndFamily crew.

Joe Striling is the person who claims to be so committed to proving Freemasonry has it in for him, that he would kill himself to "fit-up" Freemasons:

(Quote from http://www.secondfamily-uk.com/masonicvictim.htm )

335 - I recently attemped suicide. My statement "Not because of family domestics/paranoia/depression or cry for help" I done it because I know the truth and nobody was listening. I also know that if nobody listens then there is no one to help. I’m stuck with this FM persecution for life (wish I knew who or why these FM freaks put me on their revenge register). Anyway, I decided to try to bring a bit of FM exposure by tying the knife to two balloons. I knew the balloons would get carried away with the tide (no evidence)and they would find my body with a slit throat. The Doctor said I was half a centimeter away from my aorta. Just to rub salt into my wound, we were stopped by the FM Police on the way back from the hospital. Evil bastard gave me a half smile. Do you think the suicide and blame was wrong ? I am already risking my life (so are other activists, some lost) for the ignorant masses.

When he first apppeared on our Forum I felt sorry for him and his mates but as their abuse and name calling got worse they couldn't be tolerated.

Mike

[the guy in pink]

When he first apppeared on our Forum I felt sorry for him and his mates but as their abuse and name calling got worse they couldn't be tolerated.
Mike

Mike , I am convinced that this fella is the "Chris" who inhabited alt.freemasonry for years. He is a sick fella, look him up on Bro. King's site Masonicinfo.com

[danielson23uk]

335 - I recently attemped suicide. My statement "Not because of family domestics/paranoia/depression or cry for help" I done it because I know the truth and nobody was listening. I also know that if nobody listens then there is no one to help. I’m stuck with this FM persecution for life (wish I knew who or why these FM freaks put me on their revenge register). Anyway, I decided to try to bring a bit of FM exposure by tying the knife to two balloons. I knew the balloons would get carried away with the tide (no evidence)and they would find my body with a slit throat. The Doctor said I was half a centimeter away from my aorta. Just to rub salt into my wound, we were stopped by the FM Police on the way back from the hospital. Evil bastard gave me a half smile. Do you think the suicide and blame was wrong ? I am already risking my life (so are other activists, some lost) for the ignorant masses. **bold by danielson23uk**

The aorta doesn't go into the throat. Maybe your GP is a persecuting FM as well! Or maybe you're just bananas!

[manchurian_candidate]

I'm afraid that you are exepecting way too much from the 2ndFamily crew.

Joe Striling is the person who claims to be so committed to proving Freemasonry has it in for him, that he would kill himself to "fit-up" Freemasons:

(Quote from http://www.secondfamily-uk.com/masonicvictim.htm )

335 - I recently attemped suicide. My statement "Not because of family domestics/paranoia/depression or cry for help" I done it because I know the truth and nobody was listening. I also know that if nobody listens then there is no one to help. I’m stuck with this FM persecution for life (wish I knew who or why these FM freaks put me on their revenge register). Anyway, I decided to try to bring a bit of FM exposure by tying the knife to two balloons. I knew the balloons would get carried away with the tide (no evidence)and they would find my body with a slit throat. The Doctor said I was half a centimeter away from my aorta. Just to rub salt into my wound, we were stopped by the FM Police on the way back from the hospital. Evil bastard gave me a half smile. Do you think the suicide and blame was wrong ? I am already risking my life (so are other activists, some lost) for the ignorant masses. When he first apppeared on our Forum I felt sorry for him and his mates but as their abuse and name calling got worse they couldn't be tolerated.

Mike

I really don't know what to make of him to be honest... :confused:

[secondfamilyuk]

Many thanks twisted Freekmasons, you have overwhelmingly proved how one or two Masonic Trolls with lots of different names (aka) try to destroy anyone or any website. This is classical FM tactics.

Masonic donkeys fool no one except who they see in the mirror.

He haw, he haw, he hawlways calls me donkey. heh heh

tick tock tick

[manchurian_candidate]

Many thanks twisted Freekmasons, you have overwhelmingly proved how one or two Masonic Trolls with lots of different names (aka) try to destroy anyone or any website. This is classical FM tactics.

Masonic donkeys fool no one except who they see in the mirror.

He haw, he haw, he hawlways calls me donkey. heh heh

tick tock tick

Right SFUK, you REALLY need to explain what you are about and your message clearly without the donkey metaphors and provide some proof?!

[chrism]

Right SFUK, you REALLY need to explain what you are about and your message clearly without the donkey metaphors and provide some proof?!

Careful MC - you are going to be accused of being a Mason by SFUK. That seems to be the MO for them - if you don't agree whole-heartedly you are a masonic donkey(?) eating masonic carrots(?) and therefore only capable of telling lies. (Must be something to do with Beta-masonicaretiene I guess).

I have also heard (herd?) masonic Sheep and Cattle alluded to in the past, and can only think SFUK is trying to start a farm. Shame he has started with the manure and not the feed!

Good luck,

C

[manchurian_candidate]

Careful MC - you are going to be accused of being a Mason by SFUK. That seems to be the MO for them - if you don't agree whole-heartedly you are a masonic donkey(?) eating masonic carrots(?) and therefore only capable of telling lies. (Must be something to do with Beta-masonicaretiene I guess).

I have also heard (herd?) masonic Sheep and Cattle alluded to in the past, and can only think SFUK is trying to start a farm. Shame he has started with the manure and not the feed!

Good luck,

C


You're a really funny guy Chris!!! :D

I would be a masonic panda if I had to choose to ba a masonic animal. Seriously though, he doesnt appear to be making any valid claims just (forgive me!) talking a whole lot of senseless stuff?! I am more than willing to hear what he has to say if he'd just spit it out rather than typing donkey noises and likening people to carrots or parsnips!!! :rolleyes:

[chrism]

I am more than willing to hear what he has to say if he'd just spit it out rather than typing donkey noises and likening people to carrots or parsnips!!! :rolleyes:

So are us masons - if only he would post some of this 'concrete evidence' he has we may be able to do something about the people who are targetting him (unless those are infact his own inner demons that is). If it is masons, I would do everything possible to bring them to justice, masonically as well as legally.

To be honest, SFUK in his/her many forms (joe stirling etc) have been demonising (even victimising?) masons and masonry for so long and in such a vindictive manner that I would not be surprised if some of us did try to shut him up. If you corner someone and slander and libel them for long enough, they are bound to display some animosity towards you - they are only human after all!

Chris

[manchurian_candidate]

So are us masons - if only he would post some of this 'concrete evidence' he has we may be able to do something about the people who are targetting him (unless those are infact his own inner demons that is). If it is masons, I would do everything possible to bring them to justice, masonically as well as legally.

To be honest, SFUK in his/her many forms (joe stirling etc) have been demonising (even victimising?) masons and masonry for so long and in such a vindictive manner that I would not be surprised if some of us did try to shut him up. If you corner someone and slander and libel them for long enough, they are bound to display some animosity towards you - they are only human after all!
Chris

True, that is human nature. Not just masonic nature :D

I give up with him if he isnt going to post any FACTS aside from his opinion.

[chrism]

True, that is human nature. Not just masonic nature :D

I give up with him if he isnt going to post any FACTS aside from his opinion.

The latest post is fantastic - fair play to him, the guy is a comedian!

Chrism

[icke and ham]

Im now wondering if masons are very devious. What better way to show they are straigt than make up second family and put him on forums. NO-ONE can be like him and not be in a straitjacket, shurely?

ES says anybody not against masons must be one but this man is OTT Disinfo or what?

[manchurian_candidate]

Im now wondering if masons are very devious. What better way to show they are straigt than make up second family and put him on forums. NO-ONE can be like him and not be in a straitjacket, shurely?

ES says anybody not against masons must be one but this man is OTT Disinfo or what?

Who knows eh? Maybe secondfamily will surprise us whe he comes back with some other info than donkeys/carrots.

[chrism]

Im now wondering if masons are very devious. What better way to show they are straigt than make up second family and put him on forums. NO-ONE can be like him and not be in a straitjacket, shurely?

ES says anybody not against masons must be one but this man is OTT Disinfo or what?

He would be too much to hope for. Believe me, we don't have the imagination. This guy is an anti-masonic analog of David Brent - the anti-boss - and providing you can remain impartial and watch from the outside, his vitriolic diatribe is actually VERY entertaining.

As soon as I realised he was serious about this, the fraternal and caring side of me started praying for his sanity, while the other part of me recoiled in horrified fascination.

I am but human. With a bit of Lizard, naturally... ;)

Chrism

[manchurian_candidate]

He would be too much to hope for. Believe me, we don't have the imagination. This guy is an anti-masonic analog of David Brent - the anti-boss - and providing you can remain impartial and watch from the outside, his vitriolic diatribe is actually VERY entertaining.

As soon as I realised he was serious about this, the fraternal and caring side of me started praying for his sanity, while the other part of me recoiled in horrified fascination.

I am but human. With a bit of Lizard, naturally... ;)

Chrism

A confession???!?! :eek:

.... ;):D

[chrism]

A confession???!?! :eek:

.... ;):D

I know you have a sense of humour too... ;)

Glad you have one, even if others will now take this as a SERIOUS admittance of guilt!

Chrism

[manchurian_candidate]

I know you have a sense of humour too... ;)

Glad you have one, even if others will now take this as a SERIOUS admittance of guilt!

Chrism

You got to have a sense of humour, I think it is an essential part of being a complete person :D

[chrism]

You got to have a sense of humour, I think it is an essential part of being a complete person :D

That is so true!

Yet there are many here without one, unfortunately.

C

[manchurian_candidate]

That is so true!

Yet there are many here without one, unfortunately.

C

Indeed!:rolleyes:

You know, for a mason you're alright :D

[chrism]

Indeed!:rolleyes:

You know, for a mason you're alright :D

Well, for a non-mason you seem very reasonable! :D

FWIW - I think if we all spend all day agreeing with each other, nothing would ever develop.

Good to speak to you!

Chrism