When "Supreme beings" descend.

[romas]

Do people really expect kindness and gifts?
Isn't this just another Santa Claus belief for older people?

Look how we treat those weaker then us. We eat animals that are "lesser" then us. Actually not just that, we don't give a shit how much they suffer before they actually die! We go on trivial fucking hunting games.
We pollute all over the globe and "let the nature clean itself"

But now we find out that aliens are flying around eating us or doing some rituals, whoa! That's so wrong Bobby!

Would it not be the proper judgment day that supreme beings come and treat us just as we treat those weaker then us? That would actually be more fair than hell theory.

- But but they are so "evolved" !

Now think how would we look in the eyes off super evolved beings, how DO YOU observe people in dark ages who burned wemen on stake, people in rome who crucified heretics, people in meso-america sacrificing other men from different tribes, how do you relate to those horrible acts.

Now how many of you think how this civilization has to change dramatically before you are going to bed? And no I don't remember being abducted ;)

I'm just getting this feeling if we have end off times we deserved it, reaching the point that I'm ashamed to be part of human family :(

[dedicate]

This site is really screwed up when it comes to spirituality. Never have I heard the term "supreme being" in relation to UFO's or alien intellegence (except once). Get your terms in order.

The fact is.. and this information will be spit on, have dirt thrown on it, = denied by the poster, because he has to be so far from the truth that the light of day is on the other side of the world.. But here goes..

It is true that to evolve as an animal, one must look out for ones own survival. That's pretty much how we all got where we are today. But if you want to take the next step in evolution (spiritual), as a thinking self determined elightened being, you have to look for the well being of all life -- and sacrifice your own needs.

Any "supreme being" such as an Ascended Master, Angel, Saraphim or Hindu God, would actualize that principle, and not go about causing the kind of trouble humanity does. So do your homework.

[element]

The fact is.. and this information will be spit on, have dirt thrown on it, = denied by the poster, because he has to be so far from the truth that the light of day is on the other side of the world.. But here goes..

It is true that to evolve as an animal, one must look out for ones own survival. That's pretty much how we all got where we are today. But if you want to take the next step in evolution (spiritual), as a thinking self determined elightened being, you have to look for the well being of all life -- and sacrifice your own needs.

And to add...


'Spirit is life, matter is resistance. The law of the spirit is radiation, giving, selflessness. The law of matter is drawing inward, cooling off, paralysis.

'There is only one single creature that is able consciously to combine the two laws: man. He is the connecting link between the world of the spirit and that of matter. He is able to live at one and the same time by the laws of both worlds. His thoughts, words and deeds can be an act of giving, radiating selflessness and universal love. On the other hand, his body belongs to the material world and lives by the laws of matter. At its right place and in its right time, every law is divine, but the opposite is satanic.
'Pick up a stone for example. The power that makes it a stone and holds it together as matter is the very self-same law of resistance tending to chill, harden and hold everything together. As long as this law manifests itself in matter and as matter, the law is operating in its place and consequently in a divine manner. But inert matter becomes living matter when the divine spirit, the self, clothes itself in matter and becomes flesh. The self, life, penetrates the inert matter, and out of the law of matter there arises a living spirit: the reflected image which has only been able to become spirit by virtue of the fact that God, as the self of the living creatures, has breathed his own life into matter, is Satan. Thus you can see that satan is the law of matter come alive through the divine spirit. Satan lies dead in matter, as its law, until with its own life the divine spirit makes him come alive.

'Whenever man's consciousness identifies itself with the law of matter so that his thinking, words and deeds, instead of serving the divine law, serve the law of matter, man is bringing satan to life, man is becoming satanic himself. Without man satan cannot exist; for without the self of man, satan is only an unconscious force, a necessary natural law of matter.

'Satan can come to life only in the consciousness of a person who manifests the law of matter, the law of the flesh, in his spirit; who identifies his consciousness with his person, with his lower nature, with the drives and urges dwelling in the flesh, with the urge of self-preservation and propagation of the species. Such a person manifests the centripetal, coagulating power of matter as spiritual characteristics such as avarice, envy, vanity, hard-heartedness and selfishness. No living creature has ever met satan by himself, for without man satan has no existence at all. Without man satan is only the law of matter. We can meet the living satan only in the human being; only in a human face can we recognize satan as the expression of this face.

'When after the death of the body of such a person the self separates itself, satan remains behind in the corpse as the law of matter. He became satan through the vitalizing power of the self in the consciousness. But the consciousness of a person who has identified himself with the law of matter and thus become satanic himself dies with satan and becomes unconscious after death. Satan draws him, his slave, into inert matter, into the darkness, into loss of consciousness, into himself.

'On the other hand, the consciousness of a person who has identified himself with the law of the divine spirit and served this law remains awake and alert after the body has been put off; liberated from its chains, freed of the isolation of matter, it merges into eternal light, into God.'

[romas]

This site is really screwed up when it comes to spirituality. Never have I heard the term "supreme being" in relation to UFO's or alien intellegence (except once). Get your terms in order.

The fact is.. and this information will be spit on, have dirt thrown on it, = denied by the poster, because he has to be so far from the truth that the light of day is on the other side of the world.. But here goes..

It is true that to evolve as an animal, one must look out for ones own survival. That's pretty much how we all got where we are today. But if you want to take the next step in evolution (spiritual), as a thinking self determined elightened being, you have to look for the well being of all life -- and sacrifice your own needs.

Any "supreme being" such as an Ascended Master, Angel, Saraphim or Hindu God, would actualize that principle, and not go about causing the kind of trouble humanity does. So do your homework.


You must be religious :rolleyes:
Is that where you do your homework from? Another book full of crap?
Another delusioned self centered human, sigh.

"Fact" is that you HOPE that some one who comes from not around here is not gonna do the same you do every day, you can quote some stupid books all day long, but this just shows ignorance.

[dedicate]

Thank you, romas. I rest my case.

[romas]

Np friend, I hope you get real one day.

See you just jumped to conclusions that this site is not spiritual somehow, that I'm far from truth because you obvious hold the whole truth in your book and all us ignorant misfits should find it for ourselves, right?
Because the only thing that can come down are "angels" aaaand not the demons right?
Because WE ARE SO SPECIAL there are angels just wanting to come down and see all this shit on earth and fix it for us.

See this guy here David Icke, it's his forum. He talks whole lot about reptilians ya? They are faster, smarter, stronger and they can jump dimensions. Does that not count as superior being compared to us?
Shit all you religious fanatics think you are superior to monkeys, though that's debatable.

[octopusrex]

Do people really expect kindness and gifts?
Isn't this just another Santa Claus belief for older people?

Look how we treat those weaker then us. We eat animals that are "lesser" then us. Actually not just that, we don't give a shit how much they suffer before they actually die! We go on trivial fucking hunting games.
We pollute all over the globe and "let the nature clean itself"

But now we find out that aliens are flying around eating us or doing some rituals, whoa! That's so wrong Bobby!

Would it not be the proper judgment day that supreme beings come and treat us just as we treat those weaker then us? That would actually be more fair than hell theory.

- But but they are so "evolved" !

Now think how would we look in the eyes off super evolved beings, how DO YOU observe people in dark ages who burned wemen on stake, people in rome who crucified heretics, people in meso-america sacrificing other men from different tribes, how do you relate to those horrible acts.

Now how many of you think how this civilization has to change dramatically before you are going to bed? And no I don't remember being abducted ;)

I'm just getting this feeling if we have end off times we deserved it, reaching the point that I'm ashamed to be part of human family :(

Silly Romas. Advanced means "spiritually advanced". The "technology" of these creatures is simply a greater awareness of the nature of reality.

[talkingchimp]

Do people really expect kindness and gifts?
Isn't this just another Santa Claus belief for older people?

Look how we treat those weaker then us. We eat animals that are "lesser" then us. Actually not just that, we don't give a shit how much they suffer before they actually die! We go on trivial fucking hunting games.
We pollute all over the globe and "let the nature clean itself"

But now we find out that aliens are flying around eating us or doing some rituals, whoa! That's so wrong Bobby!

Would it not be the proper judgment day that supreme beings come and treat us just as we treat those weaker then us? That would actually be more fair than hell theory.

- But but they are so "evolved" !

Now think how would we look in the eyes off super evolved beings, how DO YOU observe people in dark ages who burned wemen on stake, people in rome who crucified heretics, people in meso-america sacrificing other men from different tribes, how do you relate to those horrible acts.

Now how many of you think how this civilization has to change dramatically before you are going to bed? And no I don't remember being abducted ;)

I'm just getting this feeling if we have end off times we deserved it, reaching the point that I'm ashamed to be part of human family :(

i had a supreme being descend this morning in my bathroom. it was brown and descended from my anus. when i turned around it looked just like jesus! i smiled with irony when i flushed it down the lav. wonder if it will resurface in a couple of days in the wilderness?

[romas]

Silly Romas. Advanced means "spiritually advanced". The "technology" of these creatures is simply a greater awareness of the nature of reality.


That's what you assume they would be, again have you even red some David Ickes work?

[element]

That's what you assume they would be, again have you even red some David Ickes work?

Yes, speak up what you know regarding this topic.

[romas]

See this guy here David Icke, it's his forum. He talks whole lot about reptilians ya? They are faster, smarter, stronger and they can jump dimensions. Does that not count as superior being compared to us?
Shit all you religious fanatics think you are superior to monkeys, though that's debatable.

So you have red his work, missed the part where these greeen people ate us white/brown people ?

[romas]

I found out some one actually made simmilar statement though I never knew about this fellow:

"If a group of beings from another planet were to land on Earth -- beings who considered themselves as superior to you as you feel yourself to be to other animals -- would you concede them the rights over you that you assume over other animals?"
George Bernard Shaw, playwright, Nobel Prize 1925

[adramelech]

Silly Romas. Advanced means "spiritually advanced". The "technology" of these creatures is simply a greater awareness of the nature of reality.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

- Clarke's Third Law

"Any sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from technology."

- Niven's Law

"Any technology distingushable from magic isn't sufficiently advanced!"

- Terry Pratchett

;)

Were a technologically advanced but spiritually primitive/unaware culture encounter another culture, they would most likely attribute any demostratable knowledge of or control over the nature of reality to technology.

Were a spiritually advanced but technologically primitive/unaware culture to encounter another culture, they would attribute the same displays to advanced spirituality or deep metaphysical awareness.

In other words, each culture would observe, formulate and adapt what they were seeing into what they were already familiar with.

Fortunately, we have examples of that right here on Earth.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Frum

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/19/wphilip19.xml

"Scholars have described many similarities between the myths of the Aztecs and those of the American Southwest, and posit a common root.[5] The Hopi describe the Pahana as the "Lost White Brother," and they expected his eventual return from the east during which he would destroy the wicked and begin a new era of peace and prosperity. Hopi tradition maintains that they at first mistook the Spanish conquistadors as the Pahana when they arrived on the Hopi mesas in the 16th century.

"Tovar and his men were conducted to Oraibi. They were met by all the clan chiefs at Tawtoma, as prescribed by prophecy, where four lines of sacred meal were drawn. The Bear Clan leader stepped up to the barrier and extended his hand, palm up, to the leader of the white men. If he was indeed the true Pahana, the Hopis knew he would extend his own hand, palm down, and clasp the Bear Clan leader's hand to form the nakwach, the ancient symbol of brotherhood. Tovar instead curtly commanded one of his men to drop a gift into the Bear chief's hand, believing that the Indian wanted a present of some kind. Instantly all the Hopi chiefs knew that Pahana had forgotten the ancient agreement made between their peoples at the time of their separation. Nevertheless, the Spaniards were escorted up to Oraibi, fed and quartered, and the agreement explained to them. It was understood that when the two were finally reconciled, each would correct the other's laws and faults; they would live side by side and share in common all the riches of the land and join their faiths in one religion that would establish the truth of life in a spirit of universal brotherhood. The Spaniards did not understand, and having found no gold, they soon departed."

- Frank Waters. "The Book of the Hopi"


In much of our ancient culture, what we see are attempts at applying established tribal knowledge, spiritual awareness, esoteric/primal symbolism and metaphysical concepts to an unfamiliar "invading" culture. Were this culture to seek control or colonization, we can imagine that, after Culture Shock had settled, a co-mingling of beliefs would emerge as cultural imperialism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_imperialism) began, obscuring much of the origins.

See also: Future Shock (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_shock)

[octopusrex]

Do people really expect kindness and gifts?
Isn't this just another Santa Claus belief for older people?

Look how we treat those weaker then us. We eat animals that are "lesser" then us. Actually not just that, we don't give a shit how much they suffer before they actually die! We go on trivial fucking hunting games.
We pollute all over the globe and "let the nature clean itself"

But now we find out that aliens are flying around eating us or doing some rituals, whoa! That's so wrong Bobby!

Would it not be the proper judgment day that supreme beings come and treat us just as we treat those weaker then us? That would actually be more fair than hell theory.

- But but they are so "evolved" !

Now think how would we look in the eyes off super evolved beings, how DO YOU observe people in dark ages who burned wemen on stake, people in rome who crucified heretics, people in meso-america sacrificing other men from different tribes, how do you relate to those horrible acts.

Now how many of you think how this civilization has to change dramatically before you are going to bed? And no I don't remember being abducted ;)

I'm just getting this feeling if we have end off times we deserved it, reaching the point that I'm ashamed to be part of human family :(

Romas, that's a fine sentiment. I applaud you.

[optimus pigpot]

That's what you assume they would be, again have you even red some David Ickes work?

......... for references to pages in Icke's work that they can prove to be wrong and they can't give them. These people like dedicate are always full of crap and never bring any evidence with them of what they say to be true.

[cruise4]

"Look how we treat those weaker then us"

Don't you mean...

"Look at how I treat those weaker then me"

You aren't qualified to judge all of us.

[romas]

"Look how we treat those weaker then us"

Don't you mean...

"Look at how I treat those weaker then me"

You aren't qualified to judge all of us.



I meant humanity in general and how different are you? Are you not human living in western culture? How do you go about your daily life?
Who do you presume has qualification to judge you, God? Are you sure God wants it the way you live, because you read it in a book written by another human?

Why would you ASSUME I treat weaker poorly? How can you ASSUME I meant this or that and dare to twist my statement to match your world view?

[octopusrex]

"Look how we treat those weaker then us"

Don't you mean...

"Look at how I treat those weaker then me"

You aren't qualified to judge all of us.

Yet another wonderful cuote from our star PR man:

"Judge not least you be judged".

I'm telling you.. That ol' Rabbi was onto something. Or better yet.. He was ON something.

[dedicate]

Do not pay heed to the majority posters at this site. They are sent by dark forces to infiltrate the good that David Icke has done and produce sabotage of the greater work. Their atheistic satanic diatribes are obvious, but must be pointed out, never the less.

[cruise4]

"I meant humanity in general and how different are you?"

Life is life and should be cared for in all its forms. But I cannot fix the wings of an insect and trying tends to inflict further harm so I've learnt not to try. I judge me but I do believe there is a higher viewpoint of my actions, which might also be me. I don't know yet.

"Why would you ASSUME I treat weaker poorly?"

I don't. Just pointing out that your statement assumed all others did. I see article after article about 'we' do this' or 'we' do that and I'm sick of it because plenty don't. Using We includes the writer who is not necessarily reflective of all the audience.

[romas]

"I meant humanity in general and how different are you?"

Life is life and should be cared for in all its forms. But I cannot fix the wings of an insect and trying tends to inflict further harm so I've learnt not to try. I judge me but I do believe there is a higher viewpoint of my actions, which might also be me. I don't know yet.

"Why would you ASSUME I treat weaker poorly?"

I don't. Just pointing out that your statement assumed all others did. I see article after article about 'we' do this' or 'we' do that and I'm sick of it because plenty don't. Using We includes the writer who is not necessarily reflective of all the audience.



I think you are missing the whole god damn point, I'm not judging from my point of view.

What I mean is we as in humanity from a point of view of those who are not earth-human.

So I'm actually wondering how we would be judged by others, you think they would single pick you cruise4 and me out? Or would they just eliminate all humans as potential carriers of "risky genes"