The God of the God of the Bible

[madthumbs]

I created the God of the Bible. I made his life so miserable that he had to create humans to worship him. I drove him to insanity so that he killed people for stupid reasons like being homosexual, not impregnating their dead brother's wife or believing in other Gods. He took pleasure in favoring a certain people and instructing them on how to rape, enslave, and annihilate the other humans he created. Though he has been a very bad demigod, I will forgive him and give him eternal bliss if he will simply believe in me. If he won't believe in me, then I will harshly punish him throughout eternity.

[adramelech]

You mean Anu? :D

[turquoisefyre]

I created the God of the Bible. I made his life so miserable that he had to create humans to worship him. I drove him to insanity so that he killed people for stupid reasons like being homosexual, not impregnating their dead brother's wife or believing in other Gods. He took pleasure in favoring a certain people and instructing them on how to rape, enslave, and annihilate the other humans he created. Though he has been a very bad demigod, I will forgive him and give him eternal bliss if he will simply believe in me. If he won't believe in me, then I will harshly punish him throughout eternity.

you have a right to say what you feel is right, but why is it that every time you attack either the average Xtian, or "God", you end up acting the same way as that wich you hate?

[Mo0n5tar]

Anu became El Elyon, the most high of the Eloheem.

Nice1 Adra

[madthumbs]

You mean Anu? :D

Nah, wasn't even aware of Anu. This was a demonstration of how hypocritical the Jesus Man God could be. He expects us to believe in him without proof, but would he believe in me?

Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me

God of the Bible is a self declared fool:

Psalm 14:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

[razed1]

dont forget the "jealous" god bit

[intruder]

I created the God of the Bible. I made his life so miserable that he had to create humans to worship him. I drove him to insanity so that he killed people for stupid reasons like being homosexual, not impregnating their dead brother's wife or believing in other Gods. He took pleasure in favoring a certain people and instructing them on how to rape, enslave, and annihilate the other humans he created. Though he has been a very bad demigod, I will forgive him and give him eternal bliss if he will simply believe in me. If he won't believe in me, then I will harshly punish him throughout eternity.


AHA!!I hold you responsible for his progeny!

[octopusrex]

:p

[madthumbs]

AHA!!I hold you responsible for his progeny!

Dang, you got me! -lol

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Nah, wasn't even aware of Anu. This was a demonstration of how hypocritical the Jesus Man God could be. He expects us to believe in him without proof, but would he believe in me?

Isaiah 45:5


God of the Bible is a self declared fool:

Psalm 14:1


Hi Madthumbs, you irrepressible rascal you:

Perhaps a 'More Erudite' Translation of your selected Scriptures would create more Light, rather than Heat?


Isayah (Salvation of YHVH) 45.5

I am Yahweh, and there is no other apart from Me. There is no God (Elohim). I will strengthen you with this knowledge, though you do not recognize that it was Me.

PSALM 14:1

The fool has said in his heart: There is no Mighty One! They have done abominably; the fools work are corrupt. There are none who do righteousness; all their works are corrupt.


Madthumbs, before your criticism of the Book of YHVH can be taken seriously, you must refine your knowledge of what the Book actually says.

I direct you to the Book of YHVH Thread, go there and read, and don't come back til you have.

That will be all.

Dismissed.

[romas]

you have a right to say what you feel is right, but why is it that every time you attack either the average Xtian, or "God", you end up acting the same way as that wich you hate?


Exactly. Last thing we need some one preaching "anti-ligion" enough this bs conflict already.

[turquoisefyre]

Exactly. Last thing we need some one preaching "anti-ligion" enough this bs conflict already.

because of Satan and the fall of Eve and Adam we ended up in Hell spiritually, that's why we can feel so much resentment. now, because of our ignorance, the NWO wants to make Hell a physical reallity, and who can help save our lame faithless asses but the Devine Creator Himself? on this earth, it's not God that needs to be arrogantly scrutinised, but humbly searched for. it is us who really are in the shit, so we can't complain...now can we?

(i complain all the time sometimes tho...:D:o)

[madthumbs]

because of Satan and the fall of Eve and Adam we ended up in Hell spiritually

Reference? - or are you making shit up?

now, because of our ignorance, the NWO wants to make Hell a physical reallity

What is the NWO? What is their modus operandi? Where is their capital? How do you identify them? What religion do they primarily use for mind control? If you can't answer these, I don't think you should be labeling other people as "ignorant".

who can help save our lame faithless asses but the Devine Creator Himself?

Evidence of a Creator, does not imply your creator is the right one, or that we need saving.

it's not God that needs to be arrogantly scrutinised

Absolutely! It's this sick religion that's been used to justify the killing of herbalists, homosexuals, enslavement of dark skinned people, etc that should be scrutinized.

but humbly searched for.

How did your search go? I read through different versions of the Bible 8x. I've attended many churches including pentecostal / charismatic and found a lot of deceit and oppressed children.

While the fictional character named Jesus appeared to be fond of children, he did not provide any guidelines on children such as age of enslavement, age of consent, etc.

Imagine a child with an ant farm. What rules would he set up for the ants? Would he desire that they worship him? Would he pit two different kinds of ants against each other and watch them go to war?

[talkingchimp]

I created the God of the Bible. I made his life so miserable that he had to create humans to worship him. I drove him to insanity so that he killed people for stupid reasons like being homosexual, not impregnating their dead brother's wife or believing in other Gods. He took pleasure in favoring a certain people and instructing them on how to rape, enslave, and annihilate the other humans he created. Though he has been a very bad demigod, I will forgive him and give him eternal bliss if he will simply believe in me. If he won't believe in me, then I will harshly punish him throughout eternity.

i wrote the bible. sorry to have pissed you all about for so long. but i wrote it last year then i had a little chat with a time travelling leprechaun who deposited it in the past and all he said was 'sure to be sure'. i also wrote the koran and its another regret. it was actually supposed to have been used along with the bible for fish and chips as there was a bit of a shortage in the old days. i just wrote the silly stories on it to make people giggle whilst noffing their chips. apologies again if ive confused anyone.

[talkingchimp]

because of Satan and the fall of Eve and Adam we ended up in Hell spiritually, that's why we can feel so much resentment. now, because of our ignorance, the NWO wants to make Hell a physical reallity, and who can help save our lame faithless asses but the Devine Creator Himself? on this earth, it's not God that needs to be arrogantly scrutinised, but humbly searched for. it is us who really are in the shit, so we can't complain...now can we?

(i complain all the time sometimes tho...:D:o)

you are a brainwashed cretin

[talkingchimp]

Hi Madthumbs, you irrepressible rascal you:

Perhaps a 'More Erudite' Translation of your selected Scriptures would create more Light, rather than Heat?


Isayah (Salvation of YHVH) 45.5

I am Yahweh, and there is no other apart from Me. There is no God (Elohim). I will strengthen you with this knowledge, though you do not recognize that it was Me.

PSALM 14:1

The fool has said in his heart: There is no Mighty One! They have done abominably; the fools work are corrupt. There are none who do righteousness; all their works are corrupt.


Madthumbs, before your criticism of the Book of YHVH can be taken seriously, you must refine your knowledge of what the Book actually says.

I direct you to the Book of YHVH Thread, go there and read, and don't come back til you have.

That will be all.

Dismissed.

people like you are stopping the rest of us from evolving as a species.

[Mo0n5tar]

Is blame part of evolution?

I'd say the less familiar we as a race have become with G-D or spirit in general, the more we have de-volved!

Men will always elevate themselves to the level of most high if their hearts are not humbled by knowledge of the creater!

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

people like you are stopping the rest of us from evolving as a species.



Really? Moi? Little Old Snoopsnuffleopagus?


You sure about this?

Your second Post to me is exactly as your first Post to me, please inform me how, in the intervening time that I have RETARDED yours, or anyones, evolution??

You must have forgotten YHVHs message that: At this time you are FREE MORAL AGENTS.

Do what you want. I am certain you do.


So what's your Beef?

None of you detractors know what the Book of YHVH is actually about, so what is the Value of your opinions on a Matter you do not understand?

You are like a child who informs their Loving Parents that: All vegetables are an Illuminatti Conspiracy and cause great harm to Humans. Humans should only consume Hot Dogs & Hamburgers and Ice Cream.

K?


Talkingchimp: your appelation may more aptly describe you and your ilk.


Cheers: youknowwho

[element]

people like you are stopping the rest of us from evolving as a species.

Even if so, WE have to overcome that. Everything is experience, positive AND negative. Every religion has some truth in it, but most of is older knowledge that had been taken literally and used to control humankind.

May I ask your age? You still go to highschool? I do have that feeling...
(no offense)

[turquoisefyre]

you are a brainwashed cretin

and i'm responding to a talking chimp:confused:

[turquoisefyre]

Reference? - or are you making shit up?

yip, it's comming right from my desire to sit here and talk shit:rolleyes:
Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
What is the NWO? What is their modus operandi? Where is their capital? How do you identify them? What religion do they primarily use for mind control? If you can't answer these, I don't think you should be labeling other people as "ignorant".

hey! thats a good one! starting here (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/)might give you an idea...happy reading!

Evidence of a Creator, does not imply your creator is the right one, or that we need saving.
correct, the bible does mention that Satan is the god of this world

thats right. and the Bible says Satan is the god of this world, and you continiously confuse yourself with God and Satan, no?:
John 12:31
Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.Absolutely! It's this sick religion that's been used to justify the killing of herbalists, homosexuals, enslavement of dark skinned people, etc that should be scrutinized

and exactly WHO's in charge of this??? the SAME people you keep ignoring and don't want to accept as the rulers and deceivers of this world...

How did your search go? I read through different versions of the Bible 8x. I've attended many churches including pentecostal / charismatic and found a lot of deceit and oppressed children.

While the fictional character named Jesus appeared to be fond of children, he did not provide any guidelines on children such as age of enslavement, age of consent, etc.

Imagine a child with an ant farm. What rules would he set up for the ants? Would he desire that they worship him? Would he pit two different kinds of ants against each other and watch them go to war?

well, i applaude your effort, and i'm VERY aware of preachers who can preach you into a goddamn mental prison, but it still does seem to me you've done the research with a cellphone mast attached to you head or something...

[element]

Satan = matter
God = spirit

''Your spirit has been born in your body. From when you were born, you were teached and thought you are identical to the body. Your consciousness has become identical with the body. Trough identifying yourself with the body, your consciousness has symbolically eaten from the fruits of the tree of knowledge and good and evil, and by the same token becoming subject to death.
Your body is the result of separation; it is only the visible half of your own true self. By uniting these two complementary halves with each other, you can return to divine unity! …As long as a creature seeks its complementary half outside itself, in the created, recognizable world, it will never find unity, simply because its complementary half isn't outside itself, manifested, separate from itself, but on the contrary, unseparated from itself, in its own unmanifested part, in its unconscious! …Through this union which takes place in your consciousness, the eternal longing of your manifested being ceases because it has found its complementary half and merged into unity with it. …You become complete within yourself. …you experience the divine state: Immortality, bliss…! And inasmuch as the same one, individual being, lives in all creatures, you simultaneously become identical with the true self of every creature when you awaken to your own true self. …You will feel yourself as the ‘I'- the self- in every creature, in the entire universe, in God. This means you will again be eating of the fruit of the tree of life!… in short, you will have achieved your resurrection in eternal being.''

[turquoisefyre]

Satan = matter


i don't know...as long as physical matter is not seen as evil...

[element]

i don't know...as long as physical matter is not seen as evil...

It's not evil. It's disharmony from spirit.

There are no gods and devils as spoken in the traditional way. It's all symbolic, misunderstanding from older knowledge that was closer to truth.

[romas]

Funny, maybe you people should do your own homework, this is bloody DAVID ICKE FORUM if you do not know what NWO is then you can't really relate to anything here, posting your crap from book written by smelly people in pretty dresses does not prove anything.

[element]

this is bloody DAVID ICKE FORUM

I noticed that, thank you.

if you do not know what NWO is then you can't really relate to anything here

I know what it is: New World Order.
And I know about all these bloodlines etc etc.
What's your point?

posting your crap from book written by smelly people in pretty dresses does not prove anything

You on the other hand have only proven to be useless.

Please say something constructive instead of all this bashing.

[turquoisefyre]

Element:It's not evil. It's disharmony from spirit.

There are no gods and devils as spoken in the traditional way. It's all symbolic, misunderstanding from older knowledge that was closer to truth.


TF:
aha, yes. but doesn't the disharmony, create the "devils", and would the gods not be the ones immune to disharmony?
"gods" or God, then, is perfect in harmony, and "devils" imperfect, and in disharmony...but to what? is not not to life?


#perfection = life = God
#disharmony = chaos = "Satan/devils"

i'd like to a add:

#perfection/harmony = life/true love = God
#disharmony/selfishness = chaos/death = "Satan/devils"

[madthumbs]

yip, it's comming right from my desire to sit here and talk shit:rolleyes:
Gen 2:17
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

But we all know that Satan was right and they did not die on that day, but became like God knowing good and evil (though the imaginary God in this case is a bit confused about that).

thats right. and the Bible says Satan is the god of this world, and you continiously confuse yourself with God and Satan, no?:

Both fictional characters, so yeah.. confusing. Especially with contradictions like:

Isaiah 45:5
I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:


well, i applaude your effort, and i'm VERY aware of preachers who can preach you into a goddamn mental prison, but it still does seem to me you've done the research with a cellphone mast attached to you head or something...

Can we discuss like adults please?

[turquoisefyre]

But we all know that Satan was right and they did not die on that day, but became like God knowing good and evil (though the imaginary God in this case is a bit confused about that).

the death they died was at first, spiritual one (lowering of their vibrations), after they "ate" from the "fruit", they could no longer walk and talk with God like they used to. and that's because the "fruit" was sexual intercourse with the Archangel...and as we remember when having watched Rosemary's Baby, Lavey, who plays Satan, is depicting himself as a lizard.

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.


Both fictional characters, so yeah.. confusing. Especially with contradictions like:

Isaiah 45:5

fictional to me sounds abit too much like false. how about metaphorically speaking, characters manifesting from the so-called light and dark side of the force? because if God is fictional, what made you? and if Satan is fictional, what's trying to kill everything?

Can we discuss like adults please?

of course.:) but you yourself comes across sometimes as abit...unrefined.


and i'm just a traveler looking for truth:

1 John 2:17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.

[octopusrex]

I'd like to mishmash a little further on the spirit/matter divide.

Satan (the adversary) is who feeds you, he gives you women, he gives you big homes and HDTVs. He makes SUVs for you. He does not represent matter, but the satisfaction of desire.

God (the creator) creates Satan and you to amuse him/her/itself.

Spiritual beings (Jesus/Buddha) understand both adversary and creator and go beyond both, to enter into a realm of peace.

[romas]

I noticed that, thank you.



I know what it is: New World Order.
And I know about all these bloodlines etc etc.
What's your point?



You on the other hand have only proven to be useless.

Please say something constructive instead of all this bashing.




Quote didnt work man sorry I meants to reply to this:





Reference? - or are you making shit up?



What is the NWO? What is their modus operandi? Where is their capital? How do you identify them? What religion do they primarily use for mind control? If you can't answer these, I don't think you should be labeling other people as "ignorant".



Evidence of a Creator, does not imply your creator is the right one, or that we need saving.



Absolutely! It's this sick religion that's been used to justify the killing of herbalists, homosexuals, enslavement of dark skinned people, etc that should be scrutinized.



How did your search go? I read through different versions of the Bible 8x. I've attended many churches including pentecostal / charismatic and found a lot of deceit and oppressed children.

While the fictional character named Jesus appeared to be fond of children, he did not provide any guidelines on children such as age of enslavement, age of consent, etc.

Imagine a child with an ant farm. What rules would he set up for the ants? Would he desire that they worship him? Would he pit two different kinds of ants against each other and watch them go to war?

[madthumbs]

the death they died was at first, spiritual one (lowering of their vibrations), after they "ate" from the "fruit", they could no longer walk and talk with God like they used to. and that's because the "fruit" was sexual intercourse with the Archangel...and as we remember when having watched Rosemary's Baby, Lavey, who plays Satan, is depicting himself as a lizard.

What you're doing here is teaching, or making yourself a Rabbi. The Bible shouldn't require a teacher, and:

But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.

We're also taught by this mind controlling book that there is only one Good Shepherd, and all others are thieves (you in this case).

Gen 3:24 So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life.

Pretty harsh huh, but nothing compared to the mass slaughters that were called for later in the book.

fictional to me sounds abit too much like false. how about metaphorically speaking, characters manifesting from the so-called light and dark side of the force? because if God is fictional, what made you? and if Satan is fictional, what's trying to kill everything?

Satan trying to kill everything? - Are you confusing this fictional character with your imaginary friend? Read your Bible and note how many people your God kills. It's in the tens of thousands if not more. Satan was used by proxy to kill a mere 10.

1 John 2:17 The world and its desires pass away, but the man who does the will of God lives forever.

Isn't this the premise of Islam as well?

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Who is Jesus? - According to the Bible, he is God incarnate. I believe in Intelligent Design, therefore according to your own religion, I'm as much "saved" as you, but I don't have the baggage of killing homosexuals, adulterers, and herbalists. I also don't promote slavery, racism, rape, or infant genital mutilation. (But you do)

[madthumbs]

Christians are ignorant to the crimes they are guilty of. Even if they aren't directly killing people as their religion instructs, they are using the religion as a tool to kill, enslave, rape, etc.

Kevin Bacon's character in a movie was used as a tool of murder in much the same way in Murder in the First (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113870/).

All Christians are guilty. All are doing evil. Can they accept their wrongs and change or cling to their selfish beliefs that they think will get them into eternal bliss or prevent them from facing the harsh alternate eternity (there is no grey area when it comes to their God).

[eternal_spirit]

If set was a version of Satan to the Egyptyans would you paint Satan in such a good light a you seem to do in many of your posts.

Have alook at the Baylonian Talmud.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...ghlight=talmud (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10703&highlight=talmud)

[eternal_spirit]

Christians are ignorant to the crimes they are guilty of. Even if they aren't directly killing people as their religion instructs, they are using the religion as a tool to kill, enslave, rape, etc.

Kevin Bacon's character in a movie was used as a tool of murder in much the same way in Murder in the First (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113870/).

All Christians are guilty. All are doing evil. Can they accept their wrongs and change or cling to their selfish beliefs that they think will get them into eternal bliss or prevent them from facing the harsh alternate eternity (there is no grey area when it comes to their God).
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Why does one of the commandments say thou shall not kill. Many follow this and live by this advice. So you shouldn't go lumping all into one bag.

Satan ( the Boss Demon ) and a number of Angels who became the demons of demonology found in the Kabbalah? Or and other Demonic texts of Demonolgy are kind of demonic.

EDIT, you know like human sacrafice and bizzare blood type rituals can be used to summon the demons ( read your Icke ) or other texts.

Check out the link on my signature about the Satanic black mass. Look at Jewish blood libel ( performed by some Elite Rabbis) and how the victims of this ritual of death have to be chosen as Christians, the black mass is the same they curse all Christians and Jesus.

[eternal_spirit]

Who do the Elite worship "Lucifer", who is represented as the Sun ( the morning star who is also known by other names. Back to Egypt/Babalon and back to the Greeks and Pagan sun moon worshipping blood rituals.

Fuck knows if all religions are a cover for the same themes. Some would say so.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Who is Jesus? - According to the Bible, he is God incarnate.

That declaration is 100% FALSE, and is indicative of your understanding of the Subject at hand.

Had you read the Book of YHVH Thread, you would not have made such a statement.

Yahshua and Yahweh are two separate and distinct individuals.

Yahshua declared: YHVH is Greater than Me.

Yahshua was the First Mortal Human to be Perfected according to YHVHs plan.

Read the Alpha & Omega Article.


And why don't you stop Bitchin' and start a Thread on: Solutions

What is your plan to eliminate STDs, Prions, DU and NDU, Warfare, Greed, Lust,....etc?


Got any original Thoughts?

[eternal_spirit]

our High Priest,
Rev. Michael S. Margolin
The Mad Poet Acbhb
Frater Inferior
Baphomet Rex 666

http://www.sosatan.org/rex.jpg (http://www.sosatan.org/rex.jpg)

“The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahveh reversed; for Satan is not a black God, but the negation of God. The Devil is the personification of Atheism or Idolatry. For the Initiates, this is not a person, but a force, created for good, but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of Liberty or free will. They represent this Force, which presides over the physical generation, under the mythologic and horned form of the God Pan; thence the he-goat of the Sabbat, brother of the Ancient Serpent, and the light bearer or Phosphor, of which the poets have made the false Lucifer of the legend.”
- Albert Pike “Morals and Dogma“ Ancient and Accepted Rite of Free Masonry written and published in 1875. PIke 33 degree of the Scottish Rite they are behind much evils throughout history.


"Hate those that earn it, as you would love those that earn it, As Above, so below."
"When the world is viewed with no set reality, the lies of society are revealed and the bonds of slavery, broken."
- Rev. Michael S. Margolin
They have website link below
http://www.sosatan.org/

[eternal_spirit]

Point is what ever relgious texts or religion people are born into, it doesn't mean they follow the texts to the word. Look at all the denominations and different interpretations of said texts. There's many more good religious people than bad ones. I may disagree with snoops at times but I'm sure he's a decent bloke, who takes the god ( good ) parts of the texts and lives by it.

[eternal_spirit]

God means "good", devil means "evil". The one's who do wrong in the Biblical texts are said to be tempted by the "Devil to do evil", and, or "possessed by Demons" ( The Devil's minions/helpers ) The one's who do "good" are said to be doing "God's Law."

If according to Satanist's their God is Yahwe reversed, which is Lucifer the anti thesis of Yaweh, Lucifer is the Morning Star the sun ( the Penatgram is a symbol of the sun) Pentagram reversed is Yahwe reversed representing evil, love life....... live backwards is evil.

The Sun has benevolent aspects and also destructive aspects, this is inherent in the physical/nature, but also in all religions two or more aspects for deities/Gods/goddessess etc.

In some Occult Law theres is a black sun.

The Druids and the Pagan religions where also based on the Sun and nature etc. It's probably the same allegory/symbolic/esoteric meanings as the Bible/freemasonry/other religious texts/occult. And the stories about people are moral lessons/guides.

Politicians/Parallel Governments/None Govermental organisations, make the laws. Bankers/stock markets/lawyers and financiers hold the World to ransom. Big mutil national companies who own the commodities/food etc the Military Industrial complex are far more guilty of creating the evils in this World.

[turquoisefyre]

What you're doing here is teaching, or making yourself a Rabbi. The Bible shouldn't require a teacher, and:

oi, i'm not the porkchop at a Jewish wedding here, and as i've mentioned before, i'm not particularly religious. strange, but true.

We're also taught by this mind controlling book that there is only one Good Shepherd, and all others are thieves (you in this case).

Jer 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I set you apart;
I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

God calls everyone to do a certain job, we all have something to contribute, or we would not be here...

Pretty harsh huh,...


are you saying people should not experience the fruits of their actions?


Satan trying to kill everything? - Are you confusing this fictional character with your imaginary friend? Read your Bible and note how many people your God kills. It's in the tens of thousands if not more. Satan was used by proxy to kill a mere 10.

the Satanic disease that that is known as ultimate selfishness is a virus that will consume everything, and eventually itself. and at least my imaginary friend is not somehow depriving my brain of oxygen, unlike yours!

Isn't this the premise of Islam as well?

again, who's the one's bullshitting and brainwashing young Arab men into denying their their own conscience? puppet intelligence agencies of the NWO. adn thats the case with other religions as well.


I believe in Intelligent Design, therefore according to your own religion, I'm as much "saved" as you,...

God is a mathemetician. God is the ultimate mathemetician. maybe thats why you can't fathom Him (too much to handle?) oh, and i never said i was saved...i believe my actions save or damn me, so to speak.

[turquoisefyre]

Quote didnt work man sorry I meants to reply to this:

lol

[madthumbs]

God calls everyone to do a certain job, we all have something to contribute, or we would not be here...

In this case, you put yourself in his job and pretend to be the Shepherd?

the Satanic disease that that is known as ultimate selfishness is a virus that will consume everything, and eventually itself. and at least my imaginary friend is not somehow depriving my brain of oxygen, unlike yours!

Why are you continuing to attribute the ideals of your God onto Satan? It's your God that wants to be worshiped and adored 24/7. It's your God's followers that selfishly want everlasting life for themselves and are willing to make life on earth horrible for the rest of us in doing so. Should we resort to pointless insults when we no longer have real points to make?

puppet intelligence agencies of the NWO.

What is it's capital, modus operandi, how do you identify it's members and it's form of control? I'm still waiting for someone to answer this concerning this mysterious NWO. :rolleyes:

[eternal_spirit]

quote: madthumbs

What is it's capital, modus operandi, how do you identify it's members and it's form of control? I'm still waiting for someone to answer this concerning this mysterious NWO. :rolleyes:

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Freemasonry there's religionists and none religionists involved in Freemasonry EDIT apparantly one has to be a mason to work for the intelligence agencies

[eternal_spirit]

Politicians/Parallel Governments/None Govermental organisations, make the laws. Bankers/stock markets/lawyers and financiers hold the World to ransom. Big mutil national companies who own the commodities/food etc the Military Industrial complex are far more guilty of creating the evils in this World.

I don't where you live madthumbs but here in the UK the majority of folk couldn't give a fuck about religion especially Christians, when it was used as a method of control in the past, Today TPTB have better methods of controlling the masses of people.

[turquoisefyre]

madthumbs:
In this case, you put yourself in his job and pretend to be the Shepherd?

you are a confused little sheep, aren't you? when did i say i was a shepherd? i simply said everyone's got something to bring to the table.

Why are you continuing to attribute the ideals of your God onto Satan? It's your God that wants to be worshiped and adored 24/7. It's your God's followers that selfishly want everlasting life for themselves and are willing to make life on earth horrible for the rest of us in doing so. Should we resort to pointless insults when we no longer have real points to make?

God doesn't want His children to be mindless "worshippers", thats just your distorted point of view. there are various ways in which one can pay tribute to the Creator. and, look, i'm forming my own views about Satan at the moment and will open a thread on the subject when i'm ready.

also, you'll keep on losing when it comes to the insults;), and i'm pretty sure i'm not making pointless arguments. your black-is-white arguments on religion is whats getting pretty boring. your doing a great job at exposing how Satan is twisting religion into something evil, but at least label it so.

What is it's capital, modus operandi, how do you identify it's members and it's form of control? I'm still waiting for someone to answer this concerning this mysterious NWO. :rolleyes:

seriously, why the :-) are you such a 404?