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Anders Lindman
02-04-2007, 04:54 AM
David Icke often says that George W. Bush is stupid. I know it's tempting to believe that, but that temptation is exactly what the media manipulators have fed you to believe. I'm surprised that David Icke - with his background of many years of researching media manipulation - has not been able to spot this. George W. Bush is a highly drilled actor, especially in the area of emotional subliminal messages. In public speeches, every foolish statement, every 'slip-up', every hesitation and seemingly incoherent phrasing from George W. Bush has painstakingly been rehearsed beforehand; he is reading straight from a thoroughly prepared script.

shadow cat
02-04-2007, 05:05 AM
David Icke often says that George W. Bush is stupid. I know it's tempting to believe that, but that temptation is exactly what the media manipulators have fed you to believe. I'm surprised that David Icke - with his background of many years of researching media manipulation - has not been able to spot this. George W. Bush is a highly drilled actor, especially in the area of emotional subliminal messages. In public speeches, every foolish statement, every 'slip-up', every hesitation and seemingly incoherent phrasing from George W. Bush has painstakingly been rehearsed beforehand; he is reading straight from a thoroughly prepared script.

Do you think it's a case of the 'Clown Show' from Bubbya detracting us from the 'bad shite' going down?? I understand where you are coming from re the manipulation etc, but I personally think GW is also a bit dim. Most likely due to years of alcohol abuse, whereby he has lapses in memory, and is slow on the uptake at 'meet the press' sessions. Can't agree with you totally on this.

rainmaker
02-04-2007, 05:12 AM
I've spoken with folks who have spent time with Bush "off camera" and they said it was scary how intelligent, sharp and UNLIKE his dumbass act he is, in private.

whitenight639
02-04-2007, 05:15 AM
I've spoken with folks who have spent time with Bush "off camera" and they said it was scary how intelligent, sharp and UNLIKE his dumbass act he is, in private.

i heard that he just gets his word mudled up but is a fairly clever bloke.

father ted
02-04-2007, 06:45 AM
Those people who say that bush is smarter behind the scenes are just spin doctors. Why would you want to believe them?

jimijams
02-04-2007, 07:04 AM
I tend to agree with Anders on this, it is probable that Bush is playing a role cast for him. Any half decent actor could pull it off, I wouldn't be surprised in the least, it is TV after all and I assume everything I see on TV a lie until proved otherwise.

Heres a couple of things to chew on.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Bush Video 10 years ago! - YouTube

shadow cat
02-04-2007, 07:44 AM
No...I agree with Father Ted...all spin doctor stuff. Well!! if you were on the administration with a nutter as a leader you would go into damage control!! big time.

Anders Lindman
02-04-2007, 09:04 AM
Do you think it's a case of the 'Clown Show' from Bubbya detracting us from the 'bad shite' going down?? I understand where you are coming from re the manipulation etc, but I personally think GW is also a bit dim. Most likely due to years of alcohol abuse, whereby he has lapses in memory, and is slow on the uptake at 'meet the press' sessions. Can't agree with you totally on this.

You could be correct, but I don't think the power pyramid leave things to chance when it comes to selecting the U.S. president.

jimijams
02-04-2007, 09:15 AM
The youtube clip of Bush speaking in the early ninties proves that was at least intelligent and well spoken at that time and I doubt that it is senility causing the problem now. If his speach problems are from drugs and alcohol I doubt very much also that they would place somebody as unstable as that in to such a position of power.

Anders Lindman
02-04-2007, 09:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw4Bhmm22xo

This Bush 10 years ago video could indicate dementia as is stated in the video, but I think the reason is that he has become a BETTER speaker from a manipulative point of view since 10 years ago.

jimijams
02-04-2007, 09:17 AM
This Bush 10 years ago video could indicate dementia as is stated in the video, but I think the reason is that he has become a BETTER speaker from a manipulative point of view since 10 years ago.
I agree, I don't buy the dementia angle.

limelady
02-04-2007, 09:21 AM
The youtube clip of Bush speaking in the early ninties proves that was at least intelligent and well spoken at that time and I doubt that it is senility causing the problem now. If his speach problems are from drugs and alcohol I doubt very much also that they would place somebody as unstable as that in to such a position of power.

Why not? Its happened before. ;)

indigo
02-04-2007, 09:32 AM
Isn't Bush wired up to an ear piece though when he speaks to the cameras. He has trouble hearing his instructions and it can come across as stupid.

jimijams
02-04-2007, 09:32 AM
Why not? Its happened before. ;)
He's obviously acting when he pretends to be a Christian who communes with God and has morning prayer sessions in the White House, so why is it such a stretch to imagine he is also playing the fool. Why get a real fool to do the job when it would be much wiser to have someone play the fool for you?

pollock
02-04-2007, 09:37 AM
The youtube clip of Bush speaking in the early ninties proves that was at least intelligent and well spoken at that time and I doubt that it is senility causing the problem now. If his speach problems are from drugs and alcohol I doubt very much also that they would place somebody as unstable as that in to such a position of power.

On the contrary, who is easier to control but someone who is dependant on you for their drugs (I highly doubt its any ordinary drugs you could get anywhere else they give him either) and most addicts as long as they are getting the right doses of their drug of need are very stable, if they know that is what will keep them getting their high! It doesnt last forever, but in the case of bush it doesnt have to either, his days are numbered Im sure!

F

Ps, I am sure part of his behavior is acting though, he sometimes lookes so ashamed, poor soul!:(

thirdwave
02-04-2007, 10:47 AM
David Icke often says that George W. Bush is stupid. I know it's tempting to believe that, but that temptation is exactly what the media manipulators have fed you to believe. I'm surprised that David Icke - with his background of many years of researching media manipulation - has not been able to spot this. George W. Bush is a highly drilled actor, especially in the area of emotional subliminal messages. In public speeches, every foolish statement, every 'slip-up', every hesitation and seemingly incoherent phrasing from George W. Bush has painstakingly been rehearsed beforehand; he is reading straight from a thoroughly prepared script.

I agree, he is obviously meant to come across as stupid.... so instead people thinking..."think evil bastard Bush killing all those people".... they think, "man that Bush guy is so stupid..look at the mess he has got into"...... this is what fahrenheit 9/11 tries to push.... it bases all the shit going on to a stupid president... rather than an evil one working for an evil network...

Bush is actually probably very smart... well, as smart as you can be for someone who thinks they have more power than nature.

jimijams
02-04-2007, 11:04 AM
Bush is actually probably very smart... well, as smart as you can be for someone who thinks they have more power than nature.
He's a highly intelligent psychopath who doesn't have a problem staring down the barrel of a camera and lying his tits off, or sending thousands of to die in a war to fill his and his families pockets. Him and others like him are hired proffesional liars, everything is backwards so just reverse what they say and do if you want to find the truth.

thirdwave
02-04-2007, 11:14 AM
He's a highly intelligent psychopath who doesn't have a problem staring down the barrel of a camera and lying his tits off, or sending thousands of to die in a war to fill his and his families pockets. Him and others like him are hired proffesional liars, everything is backwards so just reverse what they say and do if you want to find the truth.

I know what you mean, but i also think they understand karma...so on...

like in reality they dont REALLY lie, they just lead people astray.... there are terrosits that can use planes to fly into buildings... spray fumes in the air... use WOMD.... and they are a great threat to the peoples freedom..... and thats why we(bush & co) have to do what we do.. too bring freedom to us...so on

its them!, they are not lieing thay are being very honest....

Anders Lindman
02-04-2007, 11:31 AM
Isn't Bush wired up to an ear piece though when he speaks to the cameras. He has trouble hearing his instructions and it can come across as stupid.

It could be that Bush has an ear piece, but probably only as an extra emergency safety device (or even just for show). We have to remember that Bush is the head spokesperson for a massive propaganda machine which leaves no things to chance. No way is Bush given messages about what to say live through the ear piece. That's far too risky. Most likely, even all the questions he gets from journalists have been prepared in great detail beforehand, and all Bush's answers rehearsed in advance.

father ted
02-04-2007, 11:34 AM
Look, I'm pretty sure Yeltsin was normal enough 10 years before his presidency. These things are done on purpose, they're scapegoats.

oneofmany
02-04-2007, 11:43 AM
He's obviously acting when he pretends to be a Christian who communes with God and has morning prayer sessions in the White House, so why is it such a stretch to imagine he is also playing the fool. Why get a real fool to do the job when it would be much wiser to have someone play the fool for you?I have to agree with your assessment there Jimi, he's playing the fool to fool the masses into believing that his agendas are being pushed from behind the scenes