terror threat is growing in Uk

[beldazar]

Terror threat to UK 'is growing'

Police are currently tracking a number of suspected terror plots
The home secretary has described the terrorism threat facing the UK as "severe" and "growing".

In a News of the World interview, Jacqui Smith said 30 terror plots were being investigated and police needed to be able to detain suspects for longer.

Ms Smith is facing a Labour rebellion over plans to extend the time suspects can be held without charge to 42 days.

The Conservatives said the "right way" to deal with the problem was to use more resources "to track plots".

'Growing threat'

The home secretary said: "We now face a threat level that is severe. It's not getting any less, it's actually growing.

We can't wait for an attack to succeed and then rush in new powers. We've got to stay ahead

Jacqui Smith
Home secretary


'Thousands' pose terror threat
MI5 'evolving' to meet threat
"There are 2,000 individuals they are monitoring. There are 200 networks. There are 30 active plots.

"That has increased over the past two years. Since the beginning of 2007, 57 people have been convicted on terrorist plots.

"Nearly half of those pleaded guilty so this is not some figment of the imagination. It is a real risk and a real issue we need to respond to.

"We can't wait for an attack to succeed and then rush in new powers. We've got to stay ahead."

Last November, Jonathan Evans, MI5's director general, spoke of 2,000 people posing a threat to the UK - the same number quoted by the home secretary.

However, he went on to say that the number had not peaked.

In November 2006, the then MI5 director general, Dame Eliza Manningham-Buller, again spoke of 30 different terror plots and said 1,600 individuals were being monitored.

Police support

Under the new proposals the home secretary would be able to immediately extend the detention limit of a suspect to 42 days, as long as it was supported by a joint report by a chief constable and the director of public prosecutions.

The extension would then have to be approved by the Commons and the Lords within 30 days. But if either House voted against it, the power would end at midnight on the day of the debate.

The proposals are supported by some senior police officers - but could face a court challenge from the Equality and Human Rights Commission if passed.

Dame Pauline Neville-Jones, the shadow security minister and chair of the joint intelligence committee, told the BBC she did not agree with the government's approach.

"If there is an increase in plots it doesn't follow, I fear, that the right way to deal with that is actually then to hold suspects for an even longer time.

"What you need if you've got an increase in plots is the right quantum of resources for both the police and the intelligence services to track and disrupt the plots - and that's a question of bringing resources to bear."


yeah, right! :mad:

[logic bomb]

Funny how they are trying to pass these measures through with no apparent threat.. whats the rush guys? Why do you need to get all this done in the next few short years?

[catfood]

There has never in my lifetime been a terrorists attack in this country that has not been orchestrated buy the government or branch of government IRA included. Therefore if the terror threat is growing it only because they are planning something!

[romas]

It's not hard to brainwash some brown people in the east, bring them over to white people and let them kill some. CIA did that to fight Russians in Afghanistan for a long long time.

I bet half of the "intelligence" or even more actually believe in this... ;/

[gribz]

Severe and growing - are they planning something?

[hagbard_celine]

Something must be done I guess.:rolleyes:

I'm sure NID cards, internment and chips will be a good solution.

[killmicrosoft]

Next Practice Run is on
17/04/08 Coventry City Centre West Midlands

more info

Project ARGUS
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23489

[pri01]

Last year the April slaughter was staged at Columbine High school when that mind controlled gunman went on the rampage. I wonder where the slaughter will be this year? Sometime next week guys keep your eyes and ears ready.

[free_soul]

looool

I might be one of the terrorists i was seen on cctv the other day picking my nose hmmmm.... wont be long till that one will be against the rules lmao.

ok now for my serious post :P

If they can identifie 30 plots and 2000 suspects surely there would be some incriminating evidence aout at least 1 suspect, and if we follow what film and media say anout terrorists then they are cells, one dies the next fills his place.

Which means that a whole comunity of terrorists could take decades to wipe out (clever thinking from the fassists)

however it is extremely unlikely that out of say 200 people per plot (a random number for the sake of the post) that no1 will have evidence say under there beds etc.
Or are thyy also workin on laws to randomly search a house, like the new "stop and search" law that was the first example of a terrorist law leaking into pulic laws.
Soon it wont be the terrorist acts, it'll just be life

[peachped]

http://uk.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUKL1248595720080412?sp=true


LONDON (Reuters) - British police and security agencies are currently monitoring 30 terrorism plots, Home Secretary Jacqui Smith said in extracts of a newspaper interview released on Saturday.

"We now face a threat level that is severe. It's not getting any less, it's actually growing," she said in an interview to be published in Sunday's News of the World.

"We task the police and the security agencies with protecting us ... There are 22,000 individuals they are monitoring. There are 200 networks. There are 30 active plots," she said.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown's Labour government is seeking to extend pre-charge detention of terrorism suspects to 42 days from the current 28-day limit.

But Smith faces a tough task steering the controversial provisions through parliament.

The Conservative and Liberal Democrat parties have both said they will vote against extended detention. Labour backbenchers are also threatening to rebel and vote down the clause in the Counter-Terrorism Bill.

"We can't wait for an attack to succeed and then rush in new powers," Smith said. "We've got to stay ahead.

"Because we now understand the scale of what is being plotted, the police have to step in earlier, which means they need more time to put evidence together."

Britain has seen a marked increase in militant Islamist plots since it joined the United States in invading Iraq in 2003.

In 2005 four British suicide bombers killed 52 people in London. Other attempts have been thwarted by police or failed when devices did not detonate.

"Since the beginning of 2007, 57 people have been convicted on terrorist plots," said Smith.

"Nearly half of those pleaded guilty so this is not some figment of the imagination. It is a real risk and a real issue we need to respond to."

(Reporting by Tim Castle, Editing by Paul Majendie)

http://uk.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20080412&t=2&i=3862005&w=&r=2008-04-12T211509Z_01_L12485957_RTRUKOP_0_PICTURE0

[killmicrosoft]

so we have physic police who know a crime before it happens and it just so happens that know who all these people are before they have even committed a crime.

If there are 22,000 individuals they are monitoring.
There are 200 networks
this would make the average network 110

There are 30 active plots
this would make about 3300 people who are actively seeking to do this

i think they think we were born yesterday

how many of us on this site are they looking at as suspects

[haribohero]

OK Hi folks...

OK so this guy might be talking crap, I don't know havnt looked at the site yet, but it got me thinking a bit...

Say something quite big happens...quite soon. Something that takes down the internet. OK so we are not an army, but we are still uninted in our beliefs/understandings. Is it not important that we establish some contigency for maintaining some kind of communication channels if something big happens?

Iam am a fairly new awakener so maybe you guys already have come up with some ideads??

HH

[skyline]

Equilibrium

If something does happen there will be a big line of Jeremy Kyle watching day walkers getting Nike chips fitted to baby Chantelle.Mr and Mrs wannabee middle class will bulk buy all the food and build a fort using back copies of hello magazine

On a serious note social unrest caused by the rising cost of fuel,basic food stuff is a bigger concern.Hunger,losing everything you have worked for though no fault of your own and the subsequent reaction by a precentage of the population will be easier to use as a method to further strip our liberty's than a terror threat.A Mad Max society seems very real although a diesel golf seems a better option

Its very much all gone Pete Tong

[red_ram]

Oh, the children! Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children?

[godspeed]

that is what we've got....tell me this...someone blowing up a car in the street...an act of terrorism or anarchy??? really it was an act of revenge betwean a family....but the cops took ages to come to the incident and then say there's nowt they can do even though people are saying who's responsible they dont give a fuk....so now we open up to the dark old days gone by and take the law into our own hands were it belongs anyway....all because of false allegations made in the first place and with kangaroo courts cutting off a mans defense what more do you expect in the grim north....an uprising of course and the good fight begins.....these are dangerous days but if you believe we live forever....what is left to fear from our own government who worship the sun and love cash and freebys.......shame on them all and yes they will fall....