What is the bible? [Archive] - David Icke's Official Forums

waterbwoy

09-04-2008, 11:06 PM

zero1

09-04-2008, 11:10 PM

I suppose first and foremost it is a manual that allow(ed) the Priestly caste to control the masses.

It is also a "code book" for everything from astrology to moral dogma.

It's lots of things. I personally have read it three times and don't like it very much @ all, but it has been hugely influential in crafting the world we live in today...which is not necessarily a compliment.

bigus_dickus

09-04-2008, 11:11 PM

The word "bible" is for "library"

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20933

zero1

09-04-2008, 11:25 PM

The word "bible" is for "library"

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20933

Well yes, sure. :( I think he needs a more insightful, in-depth answer though...

mahabaratara

09-04-2008, 11:34 PM

Depends upon which version you are talking about...

I personally although not Chritstian follwed the 10 Commandments as best as I could during my formulative years...

Its common sense most of it though...

waterbwoy

09-04-2008, 11:41 PM

Thanks guys, I think that perspective dictates and appreciate your replies.

I feel it was written to mean many things to many people at varying times, certainly with an underlying purpose.

What value do you place on knowing it front to back?

I don't BTW

waterbwoy

09-04-2008, 11:45 PM

waterbwoy

09-04-2008, 11:53 PM

moved into religion - thanks.

thirdwave

09-04-2008, 11:54 PM

The bible is a book that was made up by lots of texts found over years and years... and is meant to express the faith of Christianity...

the only thing is it has been edited like crazy... and have had exta part put in that are nothing to do with "Christianity"...

there have also been many other texts found... and other "gospels" that were just over looked as it did not fit into what they wanted the book to represent.

eternal_spirit

10-04-2008, 12:04 AM

Is the bible::confused: a prophecy already passed?
:confused: a prophecy still playing out?
:confused: a code book?
:confused: a slavery device?
:confused: part of a trilogy of prophecies which include the quoran?
:confused: none of the above?

.....................
Judaism, Islam and Christianity came from the Old Testament which was written in Egypt/Babylon.
A source of occult an esoteric knolwdge.

eternal_spirit

10-04-2008, 12:06 AM

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=313989&postcount=40

waterbwoy

10-04-2008, 12:09 AM

interesting link thanks

thelucifer

10-04-2008, 02:43 AM

The Bible is 66 books.

Interestingly,
66 in biblical numerology is Idol worship.

bigus_dickus

10-04-2008, 02:53 PM

The Bible is 66 books.

27 books.

edit: sorry, the NT is 27 books

bigus_dickus

10-04-2008, 02:54 PM

Well yes, sure. :( I think he needs a more insightful, in-depth answer though...

here is the history of books.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book

madthumbs

10-04-2008, 03:55 PM

a slavery device?

The best slaves are the ones that don't realize they're slaves.

Turn the other cheek, pay taxes, obey the laws of the land, the rulers are placed by God and should be respected, etc.

octopusrex

10-04-2008, 04:19 PM

The best slaves are the ones that don't realize they're slaves.

Turn the other cheek, pay taxes, obey the laws of the land, the rulers are placed by God and should be respected, etc.

When you realize profoundly that the real system of mankind is anarchy, then you begin to see how the powerful enslave the weak.

Money, for instance, is a great lie. The value of a little piece of paper with some dead white guy's picture is a collective lie that is so effective that everybody believes it and they are willing to die and kill for it.

Some folks who are really free, recognize the lie and don't fall for it.

An apple is far more valuable than a $50 bill.

element

10-04-2008, 07:38 PM

When you realize profoundly that the real system of mankind is anarchy, then you begin to see how the powerful enslave the weak.

Money, for instance, is a great lie. The value of a little piece of paper with some dead white guy's picture is a collective lie that is so effective that everybody believes it and they are willing to die and kill for it.

Some folks who are really free, recognize the lie and don't fall for it.

An apple is far more valuable than a $50 bill.

True words.

I have never smoked, reasons are obvious. People tried to get me into it but I always replied ''not even if you gave me a million euro''

I'm serious. No money should change you in who you are and what you stand for.

zero1

10-04-2008, 09:42 PM

octopusrex

11-04-2008, 02:46 AM

True words.

I have never smoked, reasons are obvious. People tried to get me into it but I always replied ''not even if you gave me a million euro''

I'm serious. No money should change you in who you are and what you stand for.

You should really try smoking. Works wonders on your ... ehhh.. well, not tobacco, of course.. that's only for pow-wows.

Anyway.. If you both agree with me, then you certainly see the need for a New World Order and an end to world-anarchy.

madthumbs

11-04-2008, 06:04 AM

An apple is far more valuable than a $50 bill.

Even if it's GMO, non-organic, and contains terminator seeds?

Mo0n5tar

11-04-2008, 03:13 PM

I am reading the bible, think it can be quite valuable, and when looking at history aalso quite enlightening, I like reading the Pentateuch the most, the story of the tribes of Israel, the Creation, the fall, the exodus and laws, reading the first five books in conjunction with revionist egyptian history is quite enlightening!

octopusrex

11-04-2008, 04:03 PM

Even if it's GMO, non-organic, and contains terminator seeds?

I was actually thinking: in the middle of the desert, with a suitcase full of 50 dollar bills and no civilization in sight.... A little girlscout comes out of nowhere with five apples and she's not sharing.

turquoisefyre

15-04-2008, 03:11 PM

the way i'm going at the moment is via Bible study-type books. i went to a Bible centre the other day and bumbed around inside with all the different books and authors and waited untill i felt i reached the right books.

finally i settled apon these two:

Purpose-driven Life: What on Earth Am I Here For? by Rick Warren (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Purpose-driven-Life-What-Earth-Here/dp/0310210747/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208264772&sr=1-1)

this book is one you read for 40 days, one chapter at a day. i'm already very impressed with it and i'm only at day 6. fantastic.

and,

God's Daily Promises: Daily Wisdom from God's Word (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Gods-Daily-Promises-Wisdom-Word/dp/141431230X/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208264445&sr=1-4)

this is one of those books you read one day at a time, starting from Jan and ending in Dec. even tho it's April already, i got it and i think it's very good. (it's only daily dated, not yearly, so it can be used every year)

octopusrex

15-04-2008, 05:35 PM

History book.

Mo0n5tar

15-04-2008, 05:45 PM

History book.
With this i am inclined to agree, just so annoying so much of the history isn't included in the KJV, i.e book of Macabees etc...

cruise4

16-04-2008, 02:44 AM

Good question. Appears to be a history and prophecy book. Maybe it's a Cyclic book. Used for control? Yes? Does that discredit it? No. Re-written? Yes. Does that discredit it? Not if you can imagine it's from a dimension where time is dimensional. Perhaps God had a walk for 7 days and laid the whole thing out and rewrites give just what's needed at any particular point in our linear time. God knows. I don't. Must buy one with large print and read it again.

octopusrex

16-04-2008, 03:07 AM

With this i am inclined to agree, just so annoying so much of the history isn't included in the KJV, i.e book of Macabees etc...

History is written in our hearts. Have you ever read the Pophol Vuh? Do you think Deer were here before humans?

armoured_amazon

16-04-2008, 04:03 AM

Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth.

madthumbs

16-04-2008, 05:41 AM

Basic Instruction Before Leaving Earth.

Sex Slavery:

7 "If a man sells his daughter to be a female servant, she shall not go out as the male servants do.
8 If she doesn't please her master, who has married her to himself, then he shall let her be redeemed. He shall have no right to sell her to a foreign people, seeing he has dealt deceitfully with her.
9 If he marries her to his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
10 If he takes another wife to himself, he shall not diminish her food, her clothing, and her marital rights.
11 If he doesn't do these three things for her, she may go free without paying any money.
- Exodus

Rape Guide:
11 and see among the captives a beautiful woman, and you have a desire to her, and would take her to you as wife;
12 then you shall bring her home to your house; and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails;
13 and she shall put the clothing of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in your house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that you shall go in to her, and be her husband, and she shall be your wife.
14 It shall be, if you have no delight in her, then you shall let her go where she will; but you shall not sell her at all for money, you shall not deal with her as a slave, because you have humbled her.
- Deuteronomy

Cut off wife's hand:
11 When men strive together one with another, and the wife of the one draws near to deliver her husband out of the hand of him who strikes him, and puts forth her hand, and takes him by the secrets;
12 then you shall cut off her hand, your eye shall have no pity.
-Deuteronomy

Be Good Slaves:
1 Peter 2:18 18 Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.

Racist Rules of Slavery:
Exodus 21:2-9 2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing. 3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him. 4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself. 5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free: 6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever. 7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. 8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. 9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

Kill Herbalists:
Exodus 22:18-20 18 Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live. 19 Whosoever lieth with a beast shall surely be put to death. 20 He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly destroyed.

Killing Spree!
Exodus 32:27-28 27 And he said unto them, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, Put every man his sword by his side, and go in and out from gate to gate throughout the camp, and slay every man his brother, and every man his companion, and every man his neighbour. 28 And the children of Levi did according to the word of Moses: and there fell of the people that day about three thousand men.

Death to Cursing Children:
Leviticus 20:9-10 9 For every one that curseth his father or his mother shall be surely put to death: he hath cursed his father or his mother; his blood shall be upon him. 10 And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that committeth adultery with his neighbour's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.

Kill and Make Sex Slaves!

Numbers 31:17-18 17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. 18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

Kill Homosexuals:
Leviticus 20:13

13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon the

octopusrex

16-04-2008, 04:07 PM

We got a saying in spanish: "tiempo, lugar y circumstancia" translated meaning, time, place and circumstance... A bunch of ex-slave sheep-hearders in a desert without ipods probably did much worse to have to get rules on how to beat their slaves and women correctly.

bigus_dickus

16-04-2008, 05:10 PM

Sex Slavery:
- Exodus
Rape Guide:
- Deuteronomy
Cut off wife's hand:
-Deuteronomy
Be Good Slaves:
Racist Rules of Slavery:
Kill Herbalists:
Killing Spree!
Death to Cursing Children:
Kill and Make Sex Slaves!
Kill Homosexuals:

wow, it's so cool being a christian, you become like a character in a tarrantino movie. you should join us, man, it's great fun killing and raping inside our churches. we also make orgies and drink blood. way cool.

madthumbs

16-04-2008, 05:24 PM

wow, it's so cool being a christian, you become like a character in a tarrantino movie. you should join us, man, it's great fun killing and raping inside our churches. we also make orgies and drink blood. way cool.

Is a Con-Artist honest?

bigus_dickus

16-04-2008, 06:32 PM

Is a Con-Artist honest?

we also eat babies. (how could i forget that, it's basic)

snoopsnuffleopagus

16-04-2008, 06:50 PM

Hi Madthumb:

You are so Paul, pre-Damascus Road

In the Future you will be amongst the most ardent Admirers of YHVH & Yahshua.

I can see it now! :D

madthumbs

16-04-2008, 08:36 PM

Hi Madthumb:

You are so Paul, pre-Damascus Road

In the Future you will be amongst the most ardent Admirers of YHVH & Yahshua.

I can see it now! :D

No, Paul was an anti-Christ (http://www.opposingdigits.com/FalseApostle/). Instead of beating them, he joined them and confused their religion. I know this sick religion too well now to want to be any part of it.

lifeofbrian

17-04-2008, 11:47 PM

What is the bible?

Is the bible:

:confused: a prophecy already passed?
:confused: a prophecy still playing out?
:confused: a code book?
:confused: a slavery device?
:confused: part of a trilogy of prophecies which include the quoran?
:confused: none of the above?

Distorted teachings turned into a fear-based control dogma intended to uplift a political agenda.

Unfortunately all "holy" books representing any one world religion are MK programming manuals designed to entrap a mind and give it a coating of teflon so nothing else can penetrate it. And, unfortunately, it is programming manuals people read and consult gladly and freely, in joy over having a spiritual security blanket.

Basically spiritual traps, even many of those comparing religions and finding themselves being very tolerant and openminded towards all the denominations, often fall into the next trap of toying with the idea of a universal religion. As long as there is a religion with an externalized God, a lot of feel-good babble and mysterious mysteries.

People don't want any truth. People want mysteries. Much more comfortable.

pri01

18-04-2008, 07:43 AM

At the present time, my thoughts on the bible are that it is a history book (the old testament) and a business plan for our era now (the new testament). I think it may have something to do with the astrological signs too. The old testament where Moses was the initial focus brought in the worship of the Ram (Aries). There is a story where Moses is angry about the people worshipping a golden calf. This could be in reference to him trying to rid the people of the old worship (Taurus). The new testament where Jesus is the focus brought in the worship of the 2 fish (Pisces) or peace. We are now heading towards the age of that era and are nearing the beginning of the age of Aquarius (will this be the next testament)?

Each age or era lasts 2160 years. This may be a load of garbage to most people, but to me and my present thoughts based on what I have learned to date, it makes some sense.

thelucifer

19-04-2008, 12:01 AM

Distorted teachings turned into a fear-based control dogma intended to uplift a political agenda.

Unfortunately all "holy" books representing any one world religion are MK programming manuals designed to entrap a mind and give it a coating of teflon so nothing else can penetrate it. And, unfortunately, it is programming manuals people read and consult gladly and freely, in joy over having a spiritual security blanket.

Basically spiritual traps, even many of those comparing religions and finding themselves being very tolerant and openminded towards all the denominations, often fall into the next trap of toying with the idea of a universal religion. As long as there is a religion with an externalized God, a lot of feel-good babble and mysterious mysteries.

People don't want any truth. People want mysteries. Much more comfortable.

People dont want truth (willingly ignorant) ?

Yes, and yet I have to wonder on the other hand !

Is it also, people have been conditioned, via Mystery Religions, that deny higher truth to the masses/profane ??

marmadukehussy

19-04-2008, 06:49 PM

the bible is propaganda,
we all know tv, newspapers , radio are all run by the ruling elite spouting their public relations aka propaganda, i just think books were the first form of propaganda and off course its a business, sold a few copies round the world making some people lots of lovely money.

element

19-04-2008, 06:53 PM

element

19-04-2008, 06:55 PM

People complain about christian patriots saying everything thats unknown, is the devil!

But people that are not religious do the same thing: everything that is unknown to them is the reptilian secret society agenda!

Get a grip, experience things, stop taking every piece of shit on the internet serious.

marmadukehussy

19-04-2008, 07:35 PM

i just think its crazy that people live their lives by a book, dont you?
and with the huge leap in technology tv and the internet is the new medium for the propaganda.
all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused

thelucifer

19-04-2008, 10:17 PM

I don't agree with the bible being propoganda to control the masses by some sort of elite group. I'm completely tired of hearing these same stories on this forum over and over again.

I believe it's misunderstood knowledge taken over from older civilisations, like Egypt. Concepts like satan and god have been taken literally. (satan=matter,god=spirit and all that is) I also believe reincarnation was being taken out, either because they didn't understand the concept, or because they wanted people to believe they lived only once, so the more power they had with their book to convert people.

Albert Pike, in Morals and Dogma, speaks of the simple language of the Bible being for the masses while the deeper stuff for the higher ups and from the older Mystery religions, which is quite easy to see and understand.

The book, being 66 books, 66 in the book being Idol worship is very telling.

Paul the apostle speaking of 3 levels of understanding in the book is very telling as well.