Zimbabwe Elections - No Results yet?? Why?

[cheesedanish]

It is now 12 days and counting since the Voting has been cast and no results…..

Any predictions on the outcome of the Zimbabwe elections?

My fellow theorists what do you make of the ‘Election Crisis’?
What have the TPTB planned?

What I hear over and over repeated and repeated on the news broadcasts
Is the word ‘Violence’ Violence and more Violence – it is as though they are
Pushing for people to be sparked into violence.

If the people don’t get angry will they send in False flag agents to spark up
Some tensions – as we all know the Zimbabweans are peaceful people.

Then we have problem-reaction-solution which I think their ultimate
Goal is to send in the Un Troops / ‘peace keeping force’

I would love to hear your thoughts on whats really going on Zimbabwe.

Meanwhile the poor people still starve on a daily basis.

[cheesedanish]

I am starting to believe that Morgan Tsvangirai (MDC) is an Opposame …Both Mugabe and Tsvangirai are fighting over a plane that is going to crash.

They are so begging for the Un to intervene as I said this scarily their goal.

The whole of Africa seems to have a ‘peace keeping force’ … watch this space…

Why don’t they just release the result???



Don't wait for dead bodies, begs MDC (http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=68&art_id=vn20080409054706395C478208)
April 09 2008 at 09:24AM

By Moshoeshoe Monare

Morgan Tsvangirai's Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) has called on leaders of the Southern African Development Community (SADC) and African Union (AU) to intervene urgently in the electoral impasse in Zimbabwe.

"We are saying to our brothers and sisters in the SADC and AU, don't wait for dead bodies in Harare, intervene now when we have not gone too far, intervene now before we are seduced into a normal African matrix of violence and conflict," said MDC secretary-general Tendai Biti on Tuesday.

"We are concerned with the deafening silence by our brothers and sisters in the region, our brothers and sisters in the AU, in the SADC.

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/9139/madpb6.jpg

[malvern]

Zimbabwe, I spent some time there back in 1997, even then you could sence the change to worse for it's people. People who are peace loving and freindly.... I spoke with a government accountant who knew that the changes were coming and that the government planned the break down of it's country with care of it's people. Everywhere human rights seem to be left by the way and that the world governments only care about money , red money, BLOOD MONEY..... they also show us other parts of the world and we soon forget what they are doing to us at home ... we most make the governmets accountable for thier neglect and murder they carry out in our names...



freedom is the grandchildren.... we all are the caretakers

[cleopatraxxx]

never in human history there was a single government from the so called "developed" countries for an African country (any) to prosper. divide and conquer...

all about who gets the mineral resources of these starving countries for less

the people? who cares?! starving kids?!?! absolute poverty, corrupt african leaders

all leaders are corrupt, the masking is different

[Anders Lindman]

I have seen Robert Mugabe on CNN and he looks so young! He even moves like a young person. Do you know how old he is? 84 years old!! :eek:

[lumukanda]

zim in a nuthshell imo :
one of the terms of the lancaster house agreement was the fact that the british would buy the farms from white farmers and they would be re-distributed to landless black people. before 2000 when bob said that the time had come, tony blair basically said that it's not britains problem and they don't have to buy them back, bob, who had been (and probably still is) very buddy buddy with britain up until that point, found himself in position he'd not been before, not being in control and he had to save face. i suppose the day he found out he was no longer needed by the nwo must've been tough.
one of the things i agree with that he did was to tell the free trade sycophants to fuck off, he basically refused to send maize overseas and buy it from somewhere else, he said we have enough maize right now, why should i send it away? this got him in trouble with the WTO and World bank, the beginning of the economic downturn zim has taken.
the redistribution of land was well overdue in my book, and with bob seeing that he was no longer popular, he organised the farm invasions. i'm in two minds as to whether this was all bluster on his part, or part of a well thought out plan to throw resource rich southern africa into turmoil, ripe for the picking, probably both.
what this situation has also done, and done really well, is to inflame black/white tensions in the region, creating divisions, or making them bigger.
the current plan is one of two things imo, either the arrival of a AU/UN force in the country to 'keep the peace', or the start of a regional conflict to make everyone so weak that they would eventually beg for the AU/UN forces, the ultimate aim? economic control, they have it in south africa, namibia, mozambique, botswana, zambia, they've kind of lost it in zim, but they're circling, like the vultures they are.
something else that could also be brooding is a conflict between the west and china, seeing as both are after the oil in angola, and the gold and diamonds in sa, zim, nam and botswana, the chinese have a massive presence in zim, they do military maneuvres there, they've been propping bob up, southern africa could be one of the places this predicted fight will play out.

[truthseeker1980]

all leaders are corrupt, the masking is different

Most on here are probably aware that Mugabe is illuminati, i would imagine the opposition are too. I base this on a tv programme which was shown in the UK about 2-3 years ago.

It was one of those TV bloopers but with famous people not actors, one of the scenes was of Jack Straw walking up to Mugabe after an African summit or something, Mr Straw clearly knew Mugabe very well he walked up to him shook his hand and asked how he was, was about to carry on conversing then realised a camera was filming him, so he then made out he didn't know him and made a very hasty exit. This was after all the problems of late and after he had banned Uk citizens in Zimbabwe.

[lumukanda]

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/august2007/130807mugabe2.jpg
this what you're talking about? if i'm not mistaken, prince charles did the same thing.

[lumukanda]

yep, here's charles shaking bob's hand at the pope's funeral :

http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pix/charlesbobhandshake.jpg

and the official excuse : http://www.newzimbabwe.com/pages/princecharles2.12497.html

and here they are in happier times:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2006/05/07/wsaf07.jpg

[truthseeker1980]

Yep thats the one. I'm glad you had that, my mum/dad and some of my friends think i make these things up, it's annoying, i remember things longer than most people.

Unawakened work colleagues are the same and girlfriends, they all call me a know-it all and it's nothing to do with that, i just dont eat the poison as much as them so remember most things i see. But to the average sheeple that means I must be an arragant know-it-all, when they couldn't be further from the truth, i know very little, more than them but still very little.

[lumukanda]

here's the latest :

SADC calls Zim crisis meeting

Lusaka - Zambia has called an emergency meeting of the 14-member Southern African Development Community regional bloc on Saturday to discuss Zimbabwe's post-election impasse, says President Levy Mwanawasa.

Mwanawasa, who chairs the SADC, says the crisis requires a concerted effort by all southern African countries to find a solution.

It was the first move by Zimbabwe's neighbours to intervene after the March 29 elections. The presidential result was still not known.

A lawyer for Zimbabwe's electoral commission said on Wednesday that it would be "dangerous" for the High Court to order the release of presidential election results, as demanded by the opposition MDC.

Tsvangirai 'should be declared president'

The Movement for Democratic Change had gone to court to try to force out the result of the March 29 vote, saying its leader Morgan Tsvangirai had won and should be declared president, ending the 28-year rule of President Robert Mugabe.

Mugabe was trying to delay the result announcement, pending a recount, to give him time to prepare for a probable run-off against Tsvangirai.

George Chikumbirike, a lawyer for the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission, told judge Tendai Uchena: "It would be dangerous in my view to give an order because it might not be complied with ... because of outside exigencies which the party (ZEC) will be unable to control."

He did not elaborate, but appeared to be referring to rising tension in Zimbabwe because of the post-election impasse.

MDC: Mugabe unleashes violence

Chikumbirike also declined to say how far the ZEC had gone in preparing to announce the result, saying this was privileged information, which "the commission has entitlement to release when it's ready".

Jacob Zuma, leader of the ruling party in Zimbabwe's powerful neighbour, South Africa, earlier joined a chorus of demands for the release of the results.

Zimbabwe's third presidential candidate, ruling party defector Simba Makoni also urged the urgent release of the outcome. In Brussels, European Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso voiced concern at the delay.

The MDC said Mugabe had unleashed a wave of violence against the opposition since the election and called on African nations to intervene to prevent further bloodshed.

Zuma, who rivals President Thabo Mbeki as the most powerful man in South Africa and is the frontrunner to succeed him in 2009, told the Star newspaper: "I think the Zimbabwe Electoral Commission should have announced results by now."
http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/Zimbabwe/0,,2-11-1662_2302927,00.html

[lumukanda]

Yep thats the one. I'm glad you had that, my mum/dad and some of my friends think i make these things up, it's annoying, i remember things longer than most people.

Unawakened work colleagues are the same and girlfriends, they all call me a know-it all and it's nothing to do with that, i just dont eat the poison as much as them so remember most things i see. But to the average sheeple that means I must be an arragant know-it-all, when they couldn't be further from the truth, i know very little, more than them but still very little.

i know the feeling, i've always thought though, that one of the important things is knowing you know next to nothing, makes it a lot easier to learn things without preconcieved notions.

[cheesedanish]

Yes it reminds me of this - Charlie and Robert are probably very friendly with each other. Caught by suprise ... yeah right!

Prince's Mugabe handshake gaffe (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4425385.stm)

Prince Charles was seated one place away from Mr Mugabe
Prince Charles has made a diplomatic gaffe on the eve of his wedding, by shaking hands with Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe at the Pope's funeral.
The prince was "caught by surprise" when Mr Mugabe leaned over to greet him, Clarence House said.

Mr Mugabe sidestepped a European Union travel ban to attend the funeral service in the Vatican.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8059/41012589mugabecharlesjc4.jpg
Some politicians condemned Prince Charles' greeting as "stupid" and "not very sensible".

Opponents of Mr Mugabe also condemned his presence at the funeral, with one Euro MP describing it as a "flagrant breach of the EU travel ban".

[cheesedanish]

I have seen Robert Mugabe on CNN and he looks so young! He even moves like a young person. Do you know how old he is? 84 years old!! :eek:

Yes he can keep going and Dictate for another 20 years !!!
He is going to go for as long as the Queen Mum Did.

[cheesedanish]

I find the China connection very interesting and something I never thought
about before. It makes sense now. South Africa is also VERY supportive of
China.

Something I read on a Blog (https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=37326601&postID=1454173047674245212) today :


I've said it before, and I'll say it again - Africa is going to be re-colonised and this time the blacks are really going to find themselves oppressed.
The upshot is that the traitors in the West are going to get their arses kicked stukkend by a Sino-Soviet alliance and add-ons like India and a variety of Muslim countries launching programmes of aggression against an ailing West from within Africa and off it's shores.
Right now the US, UK and EU are either drowning in national debt or rapidly heading that way while China is "investing" vast amounts in Africa - in US dollars - The Chinese have more US dollars than the US and to exacerbate the situation, while the US and UK SPEND billions of dollars in Afghanistan and Iraq, the Sino-Soviet alliance are EARNING billions of dollars from investments they have made in Africa paid for in US dollars, particularly from China's US$1 Trillion plus trade surpluses.
What boggles the mind is that this has been on the cards since the de-colonisation of Africa began in the 50's and while the "Ban-the-bomb", "Free-love" hippy freaks were screaming about the Rhodesian and South African Governments, Russia and China were beavering away happily supplying the various "Liberation Struggle" useful-idiot brigades with weaponry to kill each other with.
This has all come to fruition, now the Indians are jumping in on the act while the biggest concern of the seriously intellectual US population is whether "Saddam" Hussein Barrack Obama is black/racist/ enough and if he is too black, maybe to lend him some whiteness by getting John Cleese to write his jokes.
A curious thing about the West is that while they are so feverishly doing all they can in the name of cultural diversity to totally destroy their nations' heritages and obliterate the characteristics that define them as nations and cultures, the Chinese remain steadfastly uni-cultural, as do the Indians to a degree. While the West bastardises itself, the Chinese are breeding super-soldiers in super-armies out of a super uniculture.
Ah well, at least the Yanks make kick-ass war movies, but methinks a confrontation with the Chinese out of Chinese Southern Africa is going to leave them with more than just hurt feelings and an overwhelming sense of what white Southern Africans have felt at the betrayal by the US, UK and EU to black terrorist regimes.

[lumukanda]

china and africa are very close these days, you can really see it in places like moz and even rural south africa (back when i was small, the general dealer was usually an indian or a muslim guy, these days it's a chinese guy), the close relations makes sense i suppose if you take into account the communist nature of most of africa's 'liberation armies', many of the 'cadres deployed in the national democratic revolution' (as some muppet called anc politicians the other day) were trained in soviet russia (manto had her medical training in moscow) but i'm not quite sure if china and the liberation 'heroes' had the same relationship, but i suppose china is the only major communist country around, so who you going to turn to?

[cleopatraxxx]

Yep thats the one. I'm glad you had that, my mum/dad and some of my friends think i make these things up, it's annoying, i remember things longer than most people.

Unawakened work colleagues are the same and girlfriends, they all call me a know-it all and it's nothing to do with that, i just dont eat the poison as much as them so remember most things i see. But to the average sheeple that means I must be an arragant know-it-all, when they couldn't be further from the truth, i know very little, more than them but still very little.

hi there
As your nickname states TRUTHseeker1989, is the answer to why you are more aware and of course the more you get to know/see, the pieces of the puzzle start fitting, and as in a puzzle once you know where one piece is in it is remembered, then all the rest follows and connects. i wish we could know how OUR REAL TRUTH puzzle will look like in the "end"

regarding friends and family reactions towards this partial "knowledge" i supposed all of us here in this forum go through the same. the road is so long for all of us. so many pieces to find and fit in proper places. sometimes i think it will never be disclosed to us while in this life. if any of the complete future is disclosed to an individual, no one believes it. david might be one of them. all questioned and ridiculed. all seems so impossible and different, too different of common programmed into our heads.
it might be that is part of a collective work of finally not only understanding that only together we can win by applying our hearts into reuniting as a human family. NWO need hate, more hate, more separation, hence the situations promoted through shortages and laws and more for them and less for us.