Anyone believe in forces of good?

[phoenixchilde]

There's a lot of talk on this list about the forces of darkness, and the conspirators, and how everything is connected to them, and I just wonder if anyone else on this list believes in higher powers that aren't evil?

It seems to me that if everything was being controlled by those that want to oppress us, the NWO would already be there, and we couldn't stop them. It seems to me that the fact that we exist proves that there are forces working behind the scenes to protect us, as well as forces working to destroy us.

Am I alone on this one, or is there anyone here who agrees with me?

[i_am]

There's a lot of talk on this list about the forces of darkness, and the conspirators, and how everything is connected to them, and I just wonder if anyone else on this list believes in higher powers that aren't evil?

It seems to me that if everything was being controlled by those that want to oppress us, the NWO would already be there, and we couldn't stop them. It seems to me that the fact that we exist proves that there are forces working behind the scenes to protect us, as well as forces working to destroy us.

Am I alone on this one, or is there anyone here who agrees with me?

No, you are not alone. I think there is much more good than evil but the evil (I really don't like using those duality words) has learned how to manipulate the matrix. they KNOW how to use the laws of attraction. They have kept this knowledge to themselves. WE need to learn how to do this enmasse to counteract their agenda.

Maybe instead of talking so much about the 'evil' and thus giving it energy we should talk more about the 'good' things of this world, and there are many. :D

[ah42]

There's a lot of talk on this list about the forces of darkness, and the conspirators, and how everything is connected to them, and I just wonder if anyone else on this list believes in higher powers that aren't evil?

It seems to me that if everything was being controlled by those that want to oppress us, the NWO would already be there, and we couldn't stop them. It seems to me that the fact that we exist proves that there are forces working behind the scenes to protect us, as well as forces working to destroy us.

Am I alone on this one, or is there anyone here who agrees with me?
I am of the oppinion that we are the force of good, and thats why the forces of "evil" are so intent on controlling us. They know that they cant beat us, so they are doing all they can to distract us from realising our true ability, which is ultimately the "power" to control our own destiny. They would also love for us to be looking for a force for good working behind the scenes to protect us, in order to distract us from the fact that WE ARE THAT FORCE. They know that with that knowledge and the abolity to put it to practical use, they will be banished from this realm forever, so they have set up their NWO thing with associated symbolism to hold us in their spell, and distract those that arent affected with spirtual systems that encourage us to look outside ourselves for "good" forces.
So find the power in you, and turn it into the good force you want to see.

[i_am]

I am of the oppinion that we are the force of good, So find the power in you, and turn it into the good force you want to see.

Right On!!

Be aware of the dark but do not give it energy. We have the power but continually obsessing about the evil is not letting us be the light we are meant to be.

[ho1ogram]

What if everyone has the potential for both, exstending into infinity along either polarity?

We can choose love over evil in our decision making processes at any time and vice versa. Even if you incarnate as a reptillian or whatever, you may still be presented with choices that allow you to choose a more loving one over an evil one. Thus the potential to move forward with a positive vibration is always there. And vice versa.

I believe we are already infinite, already complete and only have to remember this, remember our potential which is always present and unchanging. Just like us.

The NWO is just a manifestation of past choices that we have made collectively. It and whoever/whatever is behind the NWO, may exist solely to show us the potential that is available in an infinite existence. Positive representations like infinite love, or whatever, show us our potential on the other side of the spectrum.

Neither is worse nor better than another, they both just are, existing simultaneously within us. We have the choice to choose either at any time, and thus experience the fruits of those choices; the fruits of our creation. That is free will.

Perhaps it will never be taken from us, the choice of 'good' over 'bad'. One could be evil 'until the end of time' as the saying goes but the choice to turn around will always be there because a more positive vibration always exists, even in the depths of darkness. Remember that time is an illusion, so there is never an end to evil or to love. They both simply exist simultaneously. They and the potentials they offer are present within us because we are all that there is, was and shall ever be. We are God, so to speak.

I'm not sure how well I'm expressing my ideas on this. I started a thread exploring the love/evil duality and infinity here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2343

With love
h :)

[whitenight639]

you all talk alot about good and bad mysterious forces it makes my toes curl i dont know if im not as enlightened as you lot or am less intelligent or less impessionable, but i dnt see it, i know that at the end of the day everyone has made choises that can be percieved as good or evil and that we all are trying to gain wealth be it material or emotional so to speak. Are you lot just thinking like theres other 'forces' at work because you dont want to believe your fellow men can be responsable for the injustaces in the world and believing theres other forces makes it esier to sit back and do nothing. i dunno guys and gals i know theres gravity yet we cant see it i know were spinning at 2000 mph but i cant feel it, but are you mad or am i?

[gravityhero23]

methinks the "evil ones" have wrestled control of this planet for centuries and are now trying to consolidate their stolen wealth for fear of sharing. I for one know there are good beings in/out there that are helping our consciousness balance out. as for madness, aren't we all??

[whitenight639]

methinks the "evil ones" have wrestled control of this planet for centuries and are now trying to consolidate their stolen wealth for fear of sharing. I for one know there are good beings in/out there that are helping our consciousness balance out. as for madness, aren't we all??

lol yer i know there some bad people in the world wouldnt quite call them forces tho.. as for maddnes think it was too strong a word, mind you i think we do all need to get out more tho! lol

[gravityhero23]

lol yer i know there some bad people in the world wouldnt quite call them forces tho.. as for maddnes think it was too strong a word, mind you i think we do all need to get out more tho! lol

LOLouder bad people, mmmm ruling the armed forces controlling death and destruction for at least 2000-10,000 years. so yeah I would call them forces in a stylee indicative of the Star wars genre, vader shite. knowledge serpent suppression. Madness being too strong a word, no no no me laddy,if you was truly a knight you would see this chivalric mania. . .
As for getting out more, well I agree, hehehe we have an agreement grasshopper....... Even though I have less than 15 posts, have travelled a little more than the "average lower class" man and intend to get OUT even more, if you catch my drift ...

[whitenight639]

LOLouder bad people, mmmm ruling the armed forces controlling death and destruction for at least 2000-10,000 years. so yeah I would call them forces in a stylee indicative of the Star wars genre, vader shite. knowledge serpent suppression. Madness being too strong a word, no no no me laddy,if you was truly a knight you would see this chivalric mania. . .
As for getting out more, well I agree, hehehe we have an agreement grasshopper....... Even though I have less than 15 posts, have travelled a little more than the "average lower class" man and intend to get OUT even more, if you catch my drift ...

See you say it here they responsable for all this bloodshed over the years (which the media misses out, only glossy pictures of happy kids any bunny rabbits when the 'document' war) anyway wheather they are people or reptilian they still bleed if only i could get clear shot.

Id like to hear of your travels, and it dosnt matter how many posts you have!

[earthseed]

I know with most people I talk to they are waiting for some holy/good macro being to show up and fix everything for them. They don't want to be the force/god/infinite. That's somebody else's job we are just here to be victims. Really annoys me that this is such a normal outlook. And when you challenge it they attack you like a monkey who just got a piece of fruit taken away from it.

:rolleyes:

[ho1ogram]

I know with most people I talk to they are waiting for some holy/good macro being to show up and fix everything for them. They don't want to be the force/god/infinite. That's somebody else's job we are just here to be victims. Really annoys me that this is such a normal outlook. And when you challenge it they attack you like a monkey who just got a piece of fruit taken away from it.

Right on brother, I'm hearin' ya! LOL...and those monkeys love their fruit...lol.

[indigo]

I believe in the forces of good, I suppose seeing is believing though;)

[Anders Lindman]

Already posted before I think, but here Ian Xel Lungold explains the accelerating force of consciousness:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6681910439634411366

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=556117542011883927

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3348185130449329723

These are loooong videos and I have to lie down and listen to them instead of watching them. You could also just take a look at only the beginning of the second video where Ian explains the difference between morals and ethics.

[phoenixchilde]

Thank you all. I'm glad to see that my little post has created so many responses. I certainly agree that we shouldn't be waiting for any higher powers to come and save us. The onus is definitely on us to save ourselves from those that would do us harm.

That being said, I have seen things on this plane and the next, which lead me to believe that there are forces that out of sheer compassion want humanity to survive and be free. While those that would oppress us think nothing of direct interference, those that care for us seem intent to inspire us to our own greatness.

Whitenight, I would be the last person to say that you are less intelligent because you are not aware of spiritual forces. We are simply different, nothing more, nothing less.

[rossus]

Already posted before I think, but here Ian Xel Lungold explains the accelerating force of consciousness:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6681910439634411366

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=556117542011883927

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3348185130449329723

These are loooong videos and I have to lie down and listen to them instead of watching them. You could also just take a look at only the beginning of the second video where Ian explains the difference between morals and ethics.
hello there

i watched these three videos of lungold long time ago,
but i did not really understand the importance of being "in tune" with the calendar.

i can understand the importance of knowing that things will only get worse in the cities...
but what is the necessity knowing what calendarday it is?

their is only here and now...
if you ask me it is just distraction to keep people out of NOW, keep their eyes on whats going to happen in the future...instead of what is happening now.

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feel free to show me how wrong i am,
because i could have watched his videos more attentively :) i cannot watch them again because my ears cannot bear the noise coming from speakers anymore (eardamage)

is there anyone here who's life has been "completely transformed" because of knowing what day it is according to the mayan calendar?

[Anders Lindman]

i watched these three videos of lungold long time ago,
but i did not really understand the importance of being "in tune" with the calendar.


As I understand it, Lungold describes how the Mayan calendar (the one found at Coba) showing an acceleration of creation, really fits very well with observed physical, geological, biological, historical and social facts. It's important, he says, to understand this acceleration, and that right now and up to 2012 creation will speed up more and more during this short period of time.

Our ordinary way of thinking will have problem with this faster pace of creation, while intuition and ethics will be able to handle any speed. He used the illustration of a gyro which gets more and more centered, calm and stable the faster it spins! Athletes talk about entering the "zone" where they can deal with very fast events as if they themselves experience the situation almost like in slow motion.

Lungold maybe also meant that being in tune with the actual Mayan dates is important. I am personally at the moment more interested in the general speeding up of creation the calendar predicts than in specific Mayan dates.

[foreverspirit]

I am of the oppinion that we are the force of good, and thats why the forces of "evil" are so intent on controlling us. They know that they cant beat us, so they are doing all they can to distract us from realising our true ability, which is ultimately the "power" to control our own destiny. They would also love for us to be looking for a force for good working behind the scenes to protect us, in order to distract us from the fact that WE ARE THAT FORCE. They know that with that knowledge and the abolity to put it to practical use, they will be banished from this realm forever, so they have set up their NWO thing with associated symbolism to hold us in their spell, and distract those that arent affected with spirtual systems that encourage us to look outside ourselves for "good" forces.
So find the power in you, and turn it into the good force you want to see.


WOW AH42 - WELL SAID!:cool:

[ah42]

What if everyone has the potential for both, exstending into infinity along either polarity?

We can choose love over evil in our decision making processes at any time and vice versa. Even if you incarnate as a reptillian or whatever, you may still be presented with choices that allow you to choose a more loving one over an evil one. Thus the potential to move forward with a positive vibration is always there. And vice versa.

I believe we are already infinite, already complete and only have to remember this, remember our potential which is always present and unchanging. Just like us.

The NWO is just a manifestation of past choices that we have made collectively. It and whoever/whatever is behind the NWO, may exist solely to show us the potential that is available in an infinite existence. Positive representations like infinite love, or whatever, show us our potential on the other side of the spectrum.

Neither is worse nor better than another, they both just are, existing simultaneously within us. We have the choice to choose either at any time, and thus experience the fruits of those choices; the fruits of our creation. That is free will.

Perhaps it will never be taken from us, the choice of 'good' over 'bad'. One could be evil 'until the end of time' as the saying goes but the choice to turn around will always be there because a more positive vibration always exists, even in the depths of darkness. Remember that time is an illusion, so there is never an end to evil or to love. They both simply exist simultaneously. They and the potentials they offer are present within us because we are all that there is, was and shall ever be. We are God, so to speak.

I'm not sure how well I'm expressing my ideas on this. I started a thread exploring the love/evil duality and infinity here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2343

With love
h :)
Sounds ok to me.

[tinmenace]

I don't even know what day it is on the Gregorian calendar. What is the Mayan date? :o

[king]

There's a lot of talk on this list about the forces of darkness, and the conspirators, and how everything is connected to them, and I just wonder if anyone else on this list believes in higher powers that aren't evil?

It seems to me that if everything was being controlled by those that want to oppress us, the NWO would already be there, and we couldn't stop them. It seems to me that the fact that we exist proves that there are forces working behind the scenes to protect us, as well as forces working to destroy us.

Am I alone on this one, or is there anyone here who agrees with me?

i believe in forces of good.
if there is evil -- there is good.