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turbine
07-04-2008, 04:07 PM
I've been doing a fair but if research into aliens, UFOs and 2012 etc and this is what I think could happen. Please don't flame me because I don't know everything and I could be wrong.

I'll start with the abductions.

It seems to me that with all I've heard from lots people in interviews who have either been abducted or involved with the US government that the aliens (mainly grays and reptilians) are benevolent just doesn't seem legit to me. The fact that they take people at their will only to "help" then seems like a dodgy. I know that when people are onboard the ships (Jim sparks comes to mind) and they are taught about global warming that it seems like their wanting us to clean the planet up for them for when they invade. It sounds far fetched but I believe it could be true.


Why is it that when people are abducted that skin, sperm/eggs and other samples are taken if they're so advanced and are just wanting to help us? It seems like they are either dying out or are having biological problems of their own or are making hybrids like what some people have seen and reported. If their so concerned about the planet's health why don't they just come down and using their fancy gismos to fix the rain forests, destroy all the plastic in the oceans, stop the need to burning oil and teach us how to live more efficiently etc? I'm sure people wouldn't be scared if that was all that they wanted to do. Along with that why would they put implants into humans? I have a strange object in my right leg (which could something completely different) but I've had too many strange coincidences in my life to ignore it. I see it as a way for them to control you. Ever since I has a very very quick sleep when I was 8 (I more or less blinked and it was morning) I've noticed that a lot of bad and strange things starting to happen. Mainly falling out with people, complete change in personality, a deeper caring about the world and some physic abilities that have proven to be scarily correct.

I reckon that they are using the whole global warming problem as a perfect scapegoat to lure us into a false sense of security and along with their ideas against nuclear war for the sheer fact that it would ruin the world all the more and make it more difficult for them to survive here. I know they've given some technologies to the US but to me, all that their doing is arming the US (or soon to become NWO) for when they destroy the world to make it easier. Like when the Russians armed the Vietcong when fighting the US and when the US armed the fedayeen in Afghanistan when they were at war with the Russians.

I seen the Phil Schneider videos on youtube and he seems like it could be telling the true, even though I take everything I hear with a pinch of salt. What he and some other people have said contradicts what John Lear, Dr Greer and other have said that the Grays are here just to help.
Some Grays and reptilians too are supposed to be like us, some could be benevolent and other malevolent towards us humans and to each other too. But when people who were abducted claim that they felt nothing but love, to me it seems like another form of mind control. Especially when Jim Sparks was punished for not doing what he was told and he felt like the pressure in his ears was going up in the spacecraft. I just see it as them fooling us into another form of false security. Another thing with what Jim sparks said was that he saw a Nord and US military personnel in the spacecraft too which could mean there could be rouge elements of the pleaidians too if my theory is to be correct.

As for the NWO and the illuminati, I believe David Icke when he says that the world leaders and the other elites could very well be reptilians clones or even just severely brainwashed. I know there has been and still are plenty of theories about 9/11 and the Iraq War and to me, again, it just doesn't add up. I'm not being arrogant here when I say this but before the invasion I had a feeling that there was no threat to the world from Iraq. The fact that in George Bush's speech about how "British intelligence" had supposedly found WMDs seems BS. Not because I have anything against British intelligence but because I knew the US would have claimed fully responsibility if there really were WMDs in Iraq because it’s not like them to give praise to any other country, especially when it comes to things involving intelligence. On top of that, the fact that weapons inspector David Kelly, struggled giving evidence in an inquiry to which he later killed himself (allegedly, an assassination seems more likely) and that the Bush administration went from the following excuses to justify the war were:

1. To remove WMDS from Iraq.
2. To remove Saddam from power as he was a threat.
3. To free the Iraqi people and bring democracy.
4. To prevent terrorists forming a strong hold in Iraq.

That is complete BS to me and this is why:

1. I can't see why the US wanted Iraq to be free seeing that they're in more poverty and danger not albeit Saddams is kill people and he was a bastard but for the US to care about it so much when all the suffering if going on in Sudan and Afghanistan it just didn't make any sense.

2. Basic logic would have pointed out that if you didn't want to make Iraq a terrorist’s stronghold, why the hell would you invade a country, occupy it, for it to be in the middle east, force western politics and ideas down their throats and give all the extremists a perfect chance to carry out their jihad? Answer? A perfect opportunity to make money in the war machine and divert the world attention from something else.

But enough on Iraq or I'll be here all day.

As for 2012 I have several theories.

1. Nemesis, the big brown dwarf that was discovered a while ago, trialing millions or even billions of debris on it's elliptical orbit could rain down all hell upon the earth or shift the earth off it's axis especially when the other star are supposed to be aligning when it passes.

2. An alien invasion. I've heard many ideas like aliens will show themselves to the world but it will be a huge hologram in space and the second lot of aliens will be 'Christ' and will be our true saviors.

3. A nuclear war in which the world goes crazy and rips itself apart.

4. We evolve somehow and everything becomes fantasy land. Now it seems like when people talk about this and everything in the world is perfect, we're more or less in heaven as in spiritually. The only way to achieve this is to somehow give out love and believe in Christ which basically sounds like judgment day where we all die and either go to hell or go to heaven which is because we suddenly become more spiritual one a worldwide scale.


Just to clarify, I could have missed some stuff out here, cos I'm in a rush, and I could be wrong about something’s but it's just my opinion and if anyone else has noticed something wrong or wants to add ideas of their own then please do.

:cool:

maya12212012
07-04-2008, 11:19 PM
As for 2012 I have several theories.

1. Nemesis, the big brown dwarf that was discovered a while ago, trialing millions or even billions of debris on it's elliptical orbit could rain down all hell upon the earth or shift the earth off it's axis especially when the other star are supposed to be aligning when it passes.

2. An alien invasion. I've heard many ideas like aliens will show themselves to the world but it will be a huge hologram in space and the second lot of aliens will be 'Christ' and will be our true saviors.

3. A nuclear war in which the world goes crazy and rips itself apart.

4. We evolve somehow and everything becomes fantasy land. Now it seems like when people talk about this and everything in the world is perfect, we're more or less in heaven as in spiritually. The only way to achieve this is to somehow give out love and believe in Christ which basically sounds like judgment day where we all die and either go to hell or go to heaven which is because we suddenly become more spiritual one a worldwide scale.

It's all good, bro! That's some pretty impressive research!

With all of the 2012 talk, it seems some people are overlooking one major point: The Mayan prophecies are based on the Popol Vuh (Mayan Creation Myth) and there is no reference to a cataclysmic event or mention to beware of false prophets.

Of course, many of the Mayan's transcripts were destroyed when the Spaniards invaded them, so it's possible that anything can happen.

IMO, I don't see this as a cataclysmic event.

I recently saw a program on the science channel that stated Nemesis may be the reason for mass extinction every 26 (?) million years or so. I don't remember the specific number, but the theory made sense.

IMO, if aliens were going to invade, they would have done it years ago. They've been documented through out history in paintings, yet still haven't invaded us.

David Wilcock stated, in a communication with Ra (Group Consciousness Soul) that a nuclear war will not happen, due to the ramifications to other densities that we cannot comprehend at this time. Wilcox stated the other densities are ensuring this will not happen.

Your 4th scenario sounds the most reasonable, although there is one more scenario:

Nothing happens.

I think we're heading toward a collective consciousness inre to spirituality, but we're nowhere near where we need to be right now. I have a gut feeling that something big will change this. It might happen during the Mayans 6th Day of the Underworld (November 12, 2008 thru November 7, 2009).

Good post!

alan ford
08-04-2008, 11:56 AM
Hmm you put some good points there abaut 2012.
My theory is a bit different. In 1999 I had expirience wich folloved with total breakdown. I was mentaly atacked with some form of mind control weapons, at that time we had alternative music group and we rise from zeros to foreplayers of Public enemy. I had halucination visions in wich I saw that insect type of aliens want to open some sort of portal somewhere on earth that leads to another dimenssion, what is purpuse of that I dont know..I also telepaticly comunicated wit grey sort alien, at least I tried because we used some form of symbol telepathic language. My felling was that grey want to protect us of insect type of aliens.
Second my opinion is that earth is in some sort of quarantine because our spicies is not evolved enough. I think in near future we ll make contact with aliens, but also think the Project Bluebeam will come first( fake alien invasion-west, comming of messiah - east world).
In my visions I also saw president Clinton, who removes mask and under human mask was insectoid alien..I also had visions of Dalaj lama smileing at me...That all hapened back in 1999.
In 2003 I had different kind of expirience, when I went to work in Belgium, I had visions that in near future humans will suffer of so called mind control flu. I also get info on so called fake messiah plan in wich 7 of people will be pronuced messiah but in fact they will be fake messiah- anticrists and 1 of them will be leader. The plan will be to pronuce real messiah for anticrist an take over the planet... I must tell that im atheist in my believes and I think that this will be just a test on how our spieces is advanced.
I think that earth is just an experiment of aliens and that We will be in quarantine till we evolve enough to step in intergalactical republic..
On spiritual plane I think that space is in constant conflict between good and bad.
Regards:

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wred
11-04-2008, 12:24 PM
Hello turbine,

From my understanding the grays are gone back to their own territory.

From my understanding their purpose with our planet in thus.
They have an idea of building a universal being, so when they encounter a new lifeform that they find pleasing they make hybrids and then introduce their genes into the whole, after some adjustment process.

They gathered all the DNA they needed and did what they could for us, then just went home, largely leaving us stuck between the Dark Lords and the lizards.

Also I think you have to understand that the lizards, reptillians are not meant to be thought of in the singular form.
From my understanding a good 80% of all life in the universe is reptilian, lizards, amphibians, etc, etc, etc.

Most of the time life begins in the the seas since water is one of the building blocks for life, so most of the life forms evolved from aquatic and semi-aquatic life.

Sure there are a few fish races and fuzzy little creatures such as ourselves is fairly rare and much of a novelty.

what is more, local lizards have formed a bit of an alliance, the space version of Jews, determined to kill off all other lifeforms. So they don't much like us just because we are not lizards or some sort or another.

The Dark Lords and the Grays are able to resist them and there are a few that other races that are just too powerful for the Lizards to take on but we are just not one of them, I'm afraid.

So nobody is here to help us, sorry. The grays were nice, some of them anyway but they are gone and they were largely the only ones protecting us from the lizards and the Dark Lords, but they have completed their project and have gone back to their own worlds now, decades ago.

seems like you've been reading a lot of crap.
Most of the stuff involving this subject is either disinformation or just plain lies that somebody made up.

Yes there does seem to be a strange NWO environmental movement for some reason but any aliens don't have anything to do with it.

As my understanding goes, the earth is more or less a mind control empire of some sorts. They use themes such as Judaism and Satanism, Scientology and Magik to control their slaves, much like an operating system for the human mind. At some point one of these aliens, if not many of these aliens abducted higher ranking people in this world mind control empire but the abductees did not remember their experiences but they did remember it subconsciously.
So when looking to correct the flaws with previous systems somebody thought up the idea of space aliens, lizards and what not, as a new mind control system, never knowing where they got the idea from.

So it might be hard to separate these two things.
Alien interaction with humans, and the mind control system based on fictional alien experiences. I can only assume that the implant version is largely home based mind control government experiments.
The hybrid thing, as I said was the grays but they are gone now, so you don't have to worry about that anymore.
The lizards, well they just want the planet for themselves.
The Dark Lords? I have no idea what they are up to.
and more than likely there are probably a dozen or other such groups interacting with the human races, to a lesser extent for their own reasons.

From my understanding of this, this environmental thing is as follows.
That mind control has been around a lot longer than we give credit for, so when, say back in the 1800 pollution started to become a problem and people started to complain about the problems to their health, they just had their slaves believe that the environment was clean, just so they wouldn't have to hear any more complaints about it.
But that didn't make the problem go away and it continued to get worse and worse. As it is now probably most of us would be dead if we actually knew home badly we are being poisoned everyday by all the pollution.

Apparently the mind really can do wonderful things and at this point our complete ignorance that we being slowly killed by our own environment is the only thing keeping us alive. If you knew and could see how the world really is you'd become incredibly ill and probably die within a month or so.
So yes, great effort is being made to now correct the problem that has gone on so long.

As for 2012, sorry, no nuclear war.
No great evolutionary change for man.

You see the lizards want the planet, their leaders really don't want to give it to them as human are pretty rare and quite useful.
They really like us and our planet, cause we invent so many nifty things and have such a wonderful consumer economy.
Life living on a lizard world is horrible, mostly except for the elite, a majority of the population is out stuck in some swamp somewhere, fighting each other for food. Initially they were quite threatened by us, as we did in the last 100 years that took them millions of years to do.
But they've managed to get us under control and use us as a heaven of sorts.
If you are a loyal lizard slave and go and fight their wars for them, then you are rewarded with an extended life. When you die some come here and take over the life of a human. Mostly the rich and famous first.
But the draconians wanted more and more and more and now they want the whole planet. Their masters know that they'll just end up fucking the whole place up and are reluctant to give it to them.
Plus the invasion was launch in different stages, so some arrived sooner than the others. Once they got here and saw how nice the place was, with paved streets, shopping malls, cable TV and all other modern conveniences, some of the invasion forces that arrived in the sooner stages decided that they'd much rather keep the planet for them selves and not let it all get screwed up by the draconians. So they want to thwart the coming invasion and just live peacefully here keeping earth for themselves to rule over.

I guess the problem being is that they really haven't done too much towards this effort so when the main force gets here we'll be dinner.

and remembering that the lizards are not a monolithic race or culture but a confederation of many different lizard worlds. The masters and the soldiers and many of those here now come from completely different planets originally, just that they are all some sort of lizard, reptiles or other such similar thing.

mystiq_99
19-05-2008, 03:34 AM
What really pisses me off is that shadow government black op disclosures say the same things. They delight in spreading terror in anything from px to theres going to be 3 things: 1) kill shot cme 2)magnetic pole shift (we're already getting acceleration on that and the north pole has exited canadian waters) and 3) crustal pole shift. Source projectcamelot.org interviews. Wow, how much of the doomsdayers get their info from the shadow government. I'm so angry that tax dollars go to disinformation that all I want is proof of the person disclosing. Then its a question of the story. Truth, lies, or a mixture. Doesnt matter. All three is grounds for a massive revolt as far as Im concerned.

fnord23
19-06-2010, 01:42 AM
This is very interesting, Wred. It sounds plausible !!!! lol... possible..

Personally I'm just not sure anymore about ANY alien stuff. I remain hopeful that there are spiritually advanced compassionate ET's that will help us one day.

I am quite psychic and recently I have been picking up on a lot of torture and in particular the use of torture to affect people's psyche.

Has anyone else felt this? It has been SO strong.

I know this sounds like I am crazy but please don't judge me too fast.

I do NOT hear voices in my head or hallucinate weird stuff. I am an intelligent person, I am very able to judge what is or isn't insanity. And I really don't think I am crazy. But recently.. well for a coupel of years now I have occasionally heard music that sounds like it has sampled sound of people being tortured - for real. Now please... hear this out.
I used to produce music for about 6 years. I have a very good ear and I am also very psychic, especially on an emotional level. When I hear these sounds , sometimes speeded up or distorted with effects, I can feel the pain and suffering. It is VERY disturbing. The really strange part is that I have heard it in MAJOR releases. famous artists tracks. as well as underground dance music. I first heard it in what is known as dark psy - a kind of perversion of psychedelic trance - which was and still is a BIG spiritualised psychedelic movement. I mean, i've been to festivals where there were 30,000 people many of which were having a shamanic experience at some time or another dancing and taking acid. So is it really that surprising that the powers that be might want to disrupt this peace loving movement?
The music got harder and darker and now its become a whole new category - dark psy. I am convinced that a lot of this music is produce by evil-minded secret groups like the cia. What really shocked me recently was that i started to hear these samples in all sorts of music... i mean i really started to question my sanity... but i HAVE heard it... in pop tracks, some Moby tracks, some Chemical brothers, ... probelm is its so many tracks i've heard jsut playing randomly so i dont have too many names. Broken Social Scene.. I mean what a fuggin name?!!! them too, also on Boards of Canada. anyhow... too many to mention really.

I have also noticed this in hollywood movies... this sounds nuts too... but hey I need to get this off my chest. Also i have noticed that sometimes in TV shows and movies that some of the violence and horror is actually real. and they actually kill people and stuff and it is done to psychically effect the mass population. People see it and they dont consciously realise that what they are seeing is real.. but spiritually it affects them.

Ok i said enough... its freaking me out to even type this on my friends pc.... i would never write this at my home.

my name is peter.

anyone believe me?!!

kkay
19-06-2010, 12:17 PM
Hmm you put some good points there abaut 2012.
My theory is a bit different. In 1999 I had expirience wich folloved with total breakdown. I was mentaly atacked with some form of mind control weapons, at that time we had alternative music group and we rise from zeros to foreplayers of Public enemy. I had halucination visions in wich I saw that insect type of aliens want to open some sort of portal somewhere on earth that leads to another dimenssion, what is purpuse of that I dont know..I also telepaticly comunicated wit grey sort alien, at least I tried because we used some form of symbol telepathic language. My felling was that grey want to protect us of insect type of aliens.
Second my opinion is that earth is in some sort of quarantine because our spicies is not evolved enough. I think in near future we ll make contact with aliens, but also think the Project Bluebeam will come first( fake alien invasion-west, comming of messiah - east world).
In my visions I also saw president Clinton, who removes mask and under human mask was insectoid alien..I also had visions of Dalaj lama smileing at me...That all hapened back in 1999.
In 2003 I had different kind of expirience, when I went to work in Belgium, I had visions that in near future humans will suffer of so called mind control flu. I also get info on so called fake messiah plan in wich 7 of people will be pronuced messiah but in fact they will be fake messiah- anticrists and 1 of them will be leader. The plan will be to pronuce real messiah for anticrist an take over the planet... I must tell that im atheist in my believes and I think that this will be just a test on how our spieces is advanced.
I think that earth is just an experiment of aliens and that We will be in quarantine till we evolve enough to step in intergalactical republic..
On spiritual plane I think that space is in constant conflict between good and bad.
Regards:

http://www.v-j-enterprises.com/ufoart/alien.gif

Hi your experiences sound very similar to mine. I dont want to mess up the thread here so wonder is there a way to pm you on this forum? I just wanted to ask what your visions around Blue beam were like to see how similar or not they were. Also ask what form your visions took?

If you dont mind that is?

brokenshadow
19-06-2010, 01:52 PM
Your theories are insane. It's all done by shape shifting reptiles, to suggest otherwise is just foolish.... oh... wait....

blood drinking annunaki
19-06-2010, 01:55 PM
Get ready for a massive blue beam deception. Doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out the reason why 3d technology, sony ect is exploding in production.

Something in the frequency hard wiring the brain for something on the horizon. 10 seconds within sitting in front of a standard tv with hd connection these days puts you into sleep mode. probably even faster. With the help of course from our good friends, fluoride, msg, aspartame, anti-caking agent ect.

Go back to sleep everything is fine.

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