Speculation on the names of God

[Mo0n5tar]

http://www.levendwater.org/companion/append4.html
All quotes from the companion bible

4. THE DIVINE NAMES AND TITLES.
1. Elohim occurs 2.700 times. Its first occurrence connects it with creation, and give it its essential meaning as the Creator. It indicates His relation to mankind as His creatures (see note on 2 Chron. 18:31, where it stands in contrast with Jehovah as indicating covenant relationship). 'Elohim is God the Son, the living "WORD" with creature form to create (John 1:1. Col. 1:15-17. Rev. 3:14); and later, with human form to redeem (John 1:14). "Begotten of His Father before all worlds; born of His mother, in the world." In this creature form He appeared to the Patriarchs, a form not temporarily assumed. 'Elohim is indicated (as in A.V.) by ordinary small type, "God". See table on page 7.

Here we read of Elohim that this is a differant entity with differant characteristics to Jehovah, Elohim was the creator of Adam, while Jehovah was the creator of the first Covenant between man and God, the first religion.

I like the reference to appearing in creature form, perhaps implying re-incarnation.

Melchezedeck is an interesting character who pops up in Genesis, I speculate that he is Elohim incarnated and that the same spirit of Elohim flowed through Jesus, this is Elohim in carnal form, in the order of Melchizideck.
When he appears to Abraham he teaches Abraham, he was held in high esteem said to have been born circumcised, and blesses Abraham in the Name of EL Elyon.

Jehovah. While Elohim is God as the Creator of all things, Jehovah is the same God in covenant relation to those whom He has created (Cp. 2Chron. 18:31). Jehovah means the Eternal, the Immutable One, He Who WAS, and IS, and IS TO COME. The Divine definition is given in Gen. 21:33. He is especially, therefore, the God of Israel; and the God of those who are redeemed, and are thus now "in Christ". We can say "My God," but not "My Jehovah", for Jehovah is "MY God."

Jehovah is indicated (as in A.V.) by small capital letters, "LORD"' and by "GOD" when it occurs in combination with Adonai, in which case LORD GOD = Adonai Jehovah. The name Jehovah is combined with ten other words, which form what are known as "the Jehovah Titles." in the Hebrew Canon (Ap. 1). All are noted in the margin, in all their occurrences:--

1. JEHOVAH-JIREH = Jehovah will see, or provide. Gen. 22:14.
2. JEHOVAH-ROPHEKA = Jehovah that healeth thee. Ex. 15:26.
3. JEHOVAH-NISSI = Jehovah my banner. Ex. 17:15.
4. JEHOVAH-MeKADDISHKEM = Jehovah that doth sanctify you. Ex. 31:13. Lev. 20:8; 21:8; 22:32. Ezek. 20:12.
5. JEHOVAH-SHALOM = Jehovah [send] peace. Judg. 6:24.
6. JEHOVAH-ZeBA'OTH = Jehovah of hosts. 1Sam. 1:3, and frequently.
7. JEHOVAH-ZIDKENU = Jehovah our righteousness. Jer. 23:6; 33:16.
8. JEHOVAH-SHAMMAH = Jehovah is there. Ezek. 48:35.
9. JEHOVAH-ELYON = Jehovah most high. Ps. 7:17; 47:2; 97:9.
10. JEHOVAH-RO'I = Jehovah my Shepherd. Ps. 23:1.

We have seven of these, experimentally referred to, in Ps. 23, inasmuch as Jehovah, the "Good," "Great," and "Chief Shepherd," is engaged, in all the perfection of His attributes, on behalf of His sheep:--

In verse 1, we have No. 1 above.
In verse 2, we have No. 5.
In verse 3, we have Nos. 2 and 7.
In verse 4, we have No. 8.
In verse 5, we have Nos. 3 and 4.

# Jah is Jehovah in a special sense and relation. Jehovah as having BECOME our Salvation (first occ. Ex. 15:2), He Who IS, and WAS, and IS TO COME. It occurs 49 times (7 x 7. See Ap. 10). Compare Psalm 68. 4, 18.

Jehovah for me represents the classic saturnian archetype, strong, masculine, wrathful, he is the boss, head of the family, he is the king of Israel and they are required to be his loyal subjects.
I personally find clear distinction between Jehovah and some of the other names here.


# EL is essentially the Almighty, thought the word is never so rendered (see below, "Shaddai"). EL is Elohim in all His strength and power. It is rendered "God" as Elohim is, but El is God the Omnipotent. Elohim is God the Creator putting His omnipotence into operation. Eloah (see below) is God Who wills and orders all, and Who is to be the one object of the worship of His people. El is the God Who knows all (first occ. Gen. 14:18:22) and sees all (Gen. 16:13) and that performeth all things for His people (Ps. 57:2); and in Whom all the Divine attributes are concentrated.

# El is indicated in this edition by type in large capital letters, thus: "GOD." It is sometimes transliterated in proper names Immanue-'el, Beth-'el, &c., where it is translated, as explained in the margin.

El for me represents how the people would refer to the bestowers of these godly acts i.e they were ELs, they were the Gods, the El of this, the El of that, the clue to which El's these could be can come in the way they are described, I think there may have been a group of El's/Gods.


# Elyon first occurs in Gen. 14:18 with El, and is rendered "the most high (God)". It is El and Elohim, not as the powerful Creator, but as "the possessor of heaven and earth." Hence the name is associated with Christ as the Son of "the Highest" (Luke 1:35). It is Elyon, as possessor of the earth, Who divides the nations "their inheritance". In Ps. 83:18, He is "over all the earth". The title occurs 36 times (6 x 6 or 62 See Ap. 10).

Elyon is the Dispenser of God's blessings in the earth; the blessings proceeding from a Priest Who is a King upon His throne (cp. Gen. 14:18-22 with Zech. 6:13; 14:9).

Melchizideck bestowed the teachings of The most High God, or Elyon-El=El Elyon, this term suggests a heirarchy, reminds me of Anu the most High of the Anunnaqi and his sons Enki and Enlil, it is used to denote a supreme ruler of all, a god granting permission for ELohim to create, a Father of All so to speak, we see parallels in the Islamic most high, above the holy trinity so to speak.

# Shaddai is in every instance translated "Almighty", and is indicated by small capital letters ("ALMIGHTY"). It is God (El), not as the source of strength, but of grace; not as Creator, but as the Giver. Shaddai is the All-bountiful. This title does not refer to His creative power, but to His power to supply all the needs of His people. Its first occurrence is in Gen. 17:1, and is used to show Abraham that He Who called him out to walk alone before Him could supply all his need. Even so it is the title used in 2Cor. 6:18, where we are cal 1000 led to "come out" in separation from the world. It is always used in connection with El (see above).

# Adon is one of the three titles (ADON, ADONAI, and ADONIM), all generally rendered "Lord"; but each has its own peculiar usage and association. They all denote headship in various aspects. They have to do with God as "over-lord."

Adon is the Lord as overlord or ruler.
Adonim is the Lord as owner.
Adonai is the Lord as blesser.

# The Types used to indicate the above titles, in the text, are as follows:--

* God = Elohim.
* GOD = Jehovah (in combination with Adonai, "Lord").
* GOD* = Jehovah in the Primitive Texts, altered by Sopherim to Elohim as the Printed Text. (See Ap. 32.)
* GOD = El.
* GOD = Eloah.
* LORD = Jehovah.
* THE LORD = Jah.
* LORD* = Jehovah in the Primitive Texts, altered by Sopherim to Adonai as in the Printed Text. (See Ap. 32.)
* Lord = Adonai.
* LORD = Adonim.
* ALMIGHTY = Shaddai.
* MOST HIGH = Elyon.


# The Combinations are indicated as follows:--

Adonai Jehovah = Lord GOD.

Jehovah Elohim = LORD God.

Elyon El = MOST HIGH GOD.

El Shaddai = GOD ALMIGHTY.

[zero1]

Why not Yahweh? The God of breath/Spirit..?

As for the other names, they only confuse me. Elohim seems to refer either to off-world beings or the pantheon of Sumerian/Babylonian male gods, I don't know...

Whenever I'm in the mood to believe in God, I just call Him "God". :)

[octopusrex]

Deff... Personalities.

Govinda works for me. But there's personalities.. All one. Many personalities.

[optimus pigpot]

God's name indeed.... More crap. I think he's called Roger and has an enormous todger........ Fuck make believe gods.

[Mo0n5tar]

Some of the attributes of El Shaddai remind me of the words used to describe Allah, most beneficeint, sustaining etc while Most high is also his designation like El Elyon.

El is used to refer to Saturn in the Roman pantheon of gods, but is very popularly exalted in modern names, my own MichaEL, and others, GabriEl, SamuEl, DaniEl, UriEl.

Jesus Christ the figurehead of the christian religion is said to have been of the order of Melchizedeck, so why do we worship Jehovah in his name, while Melchizedeck was a subject of EL Elyon the Most High God, and bestowed the teachings of El Elyon unto Abram?

Take note that the customs then adopted by Abram have parallels in prior culture for instance circumcision, Melchizedeck even passed over Adams robes the Abram, there was a religious order worshipping the Most High, using the term EL to denote G-D for years prior to the Covenant between Abram and JhVH.

So we have a priestly order of Melchezedeck worshipping El Elyon way before the Levites and the Tribes of IsraEl were worshipping Jehovah, the Order of Melchizideck never utilised blood sacrifice, whereas the Levites believed in the shedding of blood for atonement of sins.

[octopusrex]

Many, many Gods.

[serpentoffire]

Why not Yahweh? The God of breath/Spirit..?

As for the other names, they only confuse me. Elohim seems to refer either to off-world beings or the pantheon of Sumerian/Babylonian male gods, I don't know...

Whenever I'm in the mood to believe in God, I just call Him "God". :)

Why not Baal - Bel - Molech - Jabulon and so on....

The God of Jesus is not the Lord of Jews.

[synergy777]

jesus was a jew, talmudic jews are different to torah jews.

the god of all the prophets, teachers etc is the same god, the god of us all.

[synergy777]

http://www.livescience.com/history/080331-hs-nicea.html

How the Council of Nicea Changed the World

By Heather Whipps,

LiveScience's History Columnist

posted: 31 March 2008 ET

Each Monday, this column turns a page in history to explore the discoveries, events and people that continue to affect the history being made today.

When Constantine became the first Christian leader of the Roman Empire in the 4th century, his vast territory was populated by a hodgepodge of beliefs and religions.

Within his own young religion, there was also dissent, with one major question threatening to cleave the popular cult — as it was at the time — into warring factions: Was Jesus divine, and how?

It's hard to imagine riots in the streets, pamphlet wars and vicious rhetoric spawned by such a question, but that was the nature of things in A.D. 325, when Constantine was forced to take action to quell the controversy.

That summer, 318 bishops from across the empire were invited to the Turkish town of Nicea, where Constantine had a vacation house, in an attempt to find common ground on what historians now refer to as the Arian Controversy. It was the first ever worldwide gathering of the Church.

The Christianity we know today is a result of what those men agreed upon over that sticky month, including the timing of the religion's most important holiday, Easter, which celebrates Jesus rising from the dead.

Young religion

Christianity was young and still working out the kinks when Constantine took power over the Roman Empire in A.D. 306. Christian doctrine at the time was muddled and inconsistent, especially when it came to the central question of Jesus' relationship to God.

Jesus was as eternally divine as the Father, said one camp led by the Archbishop Alexander of Alexandria. Another group, named the Arians after their leader Arius the preacher, saw Jesus as a remarkable leader, but inferior to the Father and lacking in absolute divinity.

Supporters on both sides scrawled graffiti on town walls in defiance while bishops from across the empire entered into a war of words as the controversy simmered to a head in 324.

Fearing unrest in his otherwise peaceful territory, Constantine summoned the bishops to his lake house in Nicea on June 19, 325.

Savvy move

In a savvy move that would put today's shrewd politicians to shame, the compromise proffered by Constantine was vague, but blandly pleasing: Jesus and God were of the same "substance," he suggested, without delving too much into the nature of that relationship. A majority of the bishops agreed on the compromise and voted to pass the language into doctrine.

Their statement of compromise, which would come to be known as "The Nicene Creed," formed the basis for Christian ideology. The bishops also used the Council of Nicea to set in stone some church rules that needed clarification, and those canons were the reference point after which all future laws were modeled.

As a final order of business, the bishops decided upon a date for the holiest of Christian celebrations, Easter, which was being observed at different times around the empire. Previously linked with the timing of Passover, the council settled on a moveable day that would never coincide again with the Jewish holiday — the first Sunday after the first full moon on or after the vernal equinox.

Nicene legends still circulating

While the Council of Nicea had important consequences, its significance has been exaggerated into legend by a few conspiracy theorists, documentaries and books such as Dan Brown's "The Da Vinci Code," historians say.

Contrary to popular belief, the council had nothing to do with selecting which verses and gospels would be included in the Bible, nor whether Christianity agreed or disagreed with the concept of reincarnation. Bishops did not burn books they deemed heretical there either, historians say.

[serpentoffire]

jesus was a jew, talmudic jews are different to torah jews.

the god of all the prophets, teachers etc is the same god, the god of us all.

I believe that jews worship the LORD (the god of earth), the same god of Freemasons, the Great Architect of Universe. Yhvh is a term interchangeable with Lord and Baal or Bel.

They rejected Christ because they expected as messiah the new King of Israel, the LORD of the earth (not God).

I think that Christ is instead the King of sky.

[zero1]

Why not Baal - Bel - Molech - Jabulon and so on....

I've explained why not before, on Yahweh threads.

The God of Jesus is not the Lord of Jews

So some say, but if Jesus had the Yahweh experience too, the his id of Self with the God of the innner life is obvious.

[optimus pigpot]

Oh!!! No maybe you don't and you all just BELIEVE you do. Oh!! How to be arrogant.

[bigus_dickus]

I believe that jews worship the LORD (the god of earth), the same god of Freemasons, the Great Architect of Universe. Yhvh is a term interchangeable with Lord and Baal or Bel.

the Sun. it's the remnant of ancient egyptian sun worship (Ra) and many stories of ancient Egypt have found their way to judaism and some of them are included in other christian writings and in the new testament.

furthermore, there are a lot of concepts (religious and not) that "western" culture have kept from ancient Egypt. for example the calendar, language and expressions that we use, also magic. ancient Egypt was all about magic. also the idea of resurrection comes straight from ancient Egypt, also mathematics, architecture and a whole lot of common and "every day" stuff for us.

also Moses is an Egyptian name!

however, this is not to say that ancient Egypt was one consistent state in all its existence, although ancient Egypt was perhaps the most conservative region of the world in all history. it was ruined and built again several times and the religions were not always consistent. monotheism (or monism) emerged in ancient Egypt before anywhere else in the world and it contrasted with paganism (many Gods) as has happened everywhere else as well. pharaoh Akhenaten was the man who adopted monotheism (one God, the Sun ) and this resulted to isolation and the formation of a cult (generally known as the cult of Aten).

anyway, there's more to say here, but it would be off-topic.

[octopusrex]

I go native on that..

Figure it that animals are our BROTHERS to the natives. Only stupid "civilized folk" think animals are not our brothers.

So, as far as Gods.. Yeah, there's a big cahuna out there, top God and all that... But there are many other "offices" like God of the Moon, God of the Waters, etc. that count too. And The office of top-cahuna is not necessarily for all eternity. Zeus overthrew Chronos.

[serpentoffire]

the Sun. it's the remnant of ancient egyptian sun worship (Ra) and many stories of ancient Egypt have found their way to judaism and some of them are included in other christian writings and in the new testament.

furthermore, there are a lot of concepts (religious and not) that "western" culture have kept from ancient Egypt. for example the calendar, language and expressions that we use, also magic. ancient Egypt was all about magic. also the idea of resurrection comes straight from ancient Egypt, also mathematics, architecture and a whole lot of common and "every day" stuff for us.

also Moses is an Egyptian name!

however, this is not to say that ancient Egypt was one consistent state in all its existence, although ancient Egypt was perhaps the most conservative region of the world in all history. it was ruined and built again several times and the religions were not always consistent. monotheism (or monism) emerged in ancient Egypt before anywhere else in the world and it contrasted with paganism (many Gods) as has happened everywhere else as well. pharaoh Akhenaten was the man who adopted monotheism (one God, the Sun ) and this resulted to isolation and the formation of a cult (generally known as the cult of Aten).

anyway, there's more to say here, but it would be off-topic.

Baptism was an Egyptian ritual. I believe that Moses was also a reptilian.

[serpentoffire]

I've explained why not before, on Yahweh threads.

Would you say us briefly why not?


So some say, but if Jesus had the Yahweh experience too, the his id of Self with the God of the innner life is obvious.

Please would you explain better?

[eternal_spirit]

The Pagan pantheons with different names for God's, Godessess and different sects/groups, where in fact really different names for the same God and Godessess "Sun and Moon" There was a saying the goddess Isis ( moon) had a thousand (faces sects/groups "Names") So, in fact panthenism is monothism in disguise.

Even the major so called monotheistic religons have their angels and demons which is what the Pagans refer too as different Gods and godessess. The trinity would be the synthethis of Sun and Moon, hence the sun of the sun God, known by many different names to each religion.

You're all worshipping the same thing!

[zero1]

Would you say us briefly why not?

>Sigh< It is very complicated, and rarely makes sense dumbed down, but I shall try...

Yahweh is a name comprised of two syllables, yah and weh. It is the sound of one's breath when one realizes fear of the Higher Intelligence in waking life (ie. "Fear of God"). Paradoxically, the Higher Intelligence is always identical to the "I" that percieves it.

Breath in Judaism is the physical link to spirit, for without it there is no life. Ergo, the Most High is the God of the Living, not the Dead like the false idolatrous gods Baal, Jabulon and others you mentioned. Yahweh is the God-self in man. Or some men...or specifically, one Man...I don't know about others as I've never met anyone who had this same experience as me.

Please would you explain better?

If, as I guess, Jesus had intellectual and spiritual awareness of what the old Jewish scriptures were talking about in regards God/Yahweh etc, then as is the wont of prophets and gurus, he might have taken it upon himself to view this as divine sanction for his ministry.

PS. Sorry if all of this sounds...odd; I can assure you I speak from experience only on this, and it has shaped my thinking accordingly. :)

[eternal_spirit]

I believe that jews worship the LORD (the god of earth), the same god of Freemasons, the Great Architect of Universe. Yhvh is a term interchangeable with Lord and Baal or Bel.

They rejected Christ because they expected as messiah the new King of Israel, the LORD of the earth (not God).

I think that Christ is instead the King of sky.

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The Talmud nulifies ( has authority over )the Torah, Judaism is 90% babylonian Talmud. The Egyptians circumcise, this is why the Jews do.....It's know as a mark of the Covenant.

[eternal_spirit]

Freemasonry is really a religion at its' core. A blue lodge always has an altar. Altars are always associated with religious worship and sacrifice. The Scottish Rite temples are so called because they have what is a supposed to be a copy of King Solomon's temple in them. Initiates are told that Masonry is based on Hiram Abiff who lost the "secret name of God" while he was building the great pyramid. As punishment he was entombed alive in the pyramid. When a Mason reaches the 33rd degree he is taught that the "secret name of God" is Jahbulon (sic Jobulun), a three part composite of Jehovah, Osiris, and Baal. Jehovah is the Germanic translation of YHWH, the tetragramaton, the God of the Israelites. Osiris was a god of the Egyptians, and Baal was a god of the Babylonians.

[eternal_spirit]

The Jews in Egypt where not slaves, the became Pharoes and the Priesthood, they changed parts in the religious text to cover up this fact.

120704 Audi hour 1 (http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/audio/120704.mp3)

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Biblical History and our Point of Power
Why the Japanese broadcast "Tora, Tora, Tora" (Torah?) when attacking Pearl Harbor. The Old Testament was written around 200-300 BC by 72 priests in Egypt who wrote it in Greek (not Hebrew) for the Jews who spoke Aramaic. The Kabala existed in ancient Egypt although added to after the 1500's. The Talmud was based on the Babylonian Talmud, updated and carried out of Babylon by the Pharisees and the Sadducees and it was then that Judaism began. Origin and symbolism of the Caduceus (western medical symbol). Tyrannical occupation of Egypt for 200 years or so by the Hyksos (Shepherd Kings) and the Habiru (mercenaries) who were a conglomeration of nomadic peoples from the northeast. And much more....

[eternal_spirit]

The Pagan pantheons with different names for God's, Godessess and different sects/groups, where in fact really different names for the same God and Godessess "Sun and Moon" There was a saying the goddess Isis ( moon) had a thousand (faces sects/groups "Names") So, in fact panthenism is monothism in disguise.

Even the major so called monotheistic religons have their angels and demons which is what the Pagans refer too as different Gods and godessess. The trinity would be the synthethis of Sun and Moon, hence the sun of the sun God, known by many different names to each religion.

You're all worshipping the same thing!

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Although the above explanation may be wrong. :eek:

Maybe there where men like Jesus Buddha etc etc

[serpentoffire]

>
Yahweh is a name comprised of two syllables, yah and weh. It is the sound of one's breath when one realizes fear of the Higher Intelligence in waking life (ie. "Fear of God"). Paradoxically, the Higher Intelligence is always identical to the "I" that percieves it.

Breath in Judaism is the physical link to spirit, for without it there is no life. Ergo, the Most High is the God of the Living, not the Dead like the false idolatrous gods Baal, Jabulon and others you mentioned. Yahweh is the God-self in man.

But the Jew Lord seams to be a God of war not a God of commiseration and love. So I believe that Jesus (maybe a different type of Nephilim), God and Holy Spirit are differents entities from Jews Elohims.

[pilgrim]

108 Names of Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead

Achala - Still Lord
Achyuta - Infallible Lord
Adbhutah - Wonderful God
Adidev - The Lord Of The Lords
Aditya - The Son Of Aditi
Ajanma - One Who Is Limitless And Endless
Ajaya - The Conqueror Of Life And Death
Akshara - Indestructible Lord
Amrit - Heavenly nectar or elixir
Anandsagar - Compassionate Lord
Ananta - The Endless Lord
Anantajit - Ever Victorious Lord
Anaya - One Who Has No Leader
Aniruddha - One Who Cannot Be Obstructed
Aparajeet - The Lord Who Cannot Be Defeated
Avyukta - One Who Is As Clear As Crystal
Balgopal - The Child Krishna, The All Attractive
Chaturbhuj - Four-Armed Lord
Danavendra - Granter Of Boons
Dayalu - Repository Of Compassion
Dayanidhi - The Compassionate Lord
Devadidev - The God Of The Gods
Devakinandan - Son Of Mother Devaki
Devesh - Lord Of The Lords
Dharmadhyaksha - The Lord OF Dharma
Dravin - The one who has no Enemies
Dwarkapati - Lord Of Dwarka
Gopal - One Who Plays With The Cowherds, The Gopas
Gopalpriya - Lover Of Cowherds
Govinda - One Who Pleases The Cows, The Land And The Entire Nature
Gyaneshwar - The Lord Of Knowledge
Hari - The Lord Of Nature
Hiranyagarbha - The All Powerful Creator
Hrishikesh - The Lord Of All Senses
Jagadguru - Preceptor Of The Universe
Jagadisha - Protector Of All
Jagannath - Lord Of The Universe
Janardhana - One Who Bestows Boons On One And All
Jayantah - Conqueror Of All Enemies
Jyotiraaditya - The Resplendence Of The Sun
Kamalnath - The Lord Of Goddess Lakshmi
Kamalnayan - The Lord With Lotus Shaped Eyes
Kamsantak - Slayer Of Kamsa
Kanjalochana - The Lotus-Eyed God
Keshava - One Who Has Long, Black Matted Locks
Krishna - Dark-Complexioned Lord
Lakshmikantam - The Lord Of Goddess Lakshmi
Lokadhyaksha - Lord Of All The Three Lokas (Worlds)
Madan - The Lord Of Love
Madhava - Knowledge Filled God
Madhusudan - Slayer Of Demon Madhu
Mahendra - Lord Of Indra
Manmohan - All Pleasing Lord
Manohar - Beautiful Lord
Mayur - The Lord Who Has A Peacock Feathered-Crest
Mohan - All Attractive God
Murali - The Flute Playing Lord
Murlidhar - One Who Holds The Flute
Murlimanohar - The Flute Playing God
Nandakumara - Son of Nanda
Nandgopala - The Son Of Nand
Narayana - The Refuge Of Everyone
Navaneethachora - makan (butter) chor
Niranjana - The Unblemished Lord
Nirguna - Without Any Properties
Padmahasta - One Who Has Hands Like Lotus
Padmanabha - The Lord Who Has A Lotus Shaped Navel
Parabrahmana - The Supreme Absolute Truth
Paramatma - Lord Of All Beings
Parampurush - Supreme Personality
Parthasarthi - Charioteer Of Partha - Arjuna
Prajapati - Lord Of All Creatures
Punyah - Supremely Pure
Purshottam - The Supreme Soul
Ravilochana - One Who Eye Is The Sun
Sahasraakash - Thousand-Eyed Lord
Sahasrajit - One Who Vanquishes Thousands
Sakshi - All Witnessing Lord
Sanatana - The Eternal Lord
Sarvajana - Omniscient Lord
Sarvapalaka - Protector Of All
Sarveshwar - Lord Of All Gods
Satyavachana - One Who Speaks Only The Truth
Satyavrata - The Truth Dedicated Lord
Shantah - Peaceful Lord
Shreshta - The Most Glorious Lord
Shrikanta - Beautiful Lord
Shyam - Dark-Complexioned Lord
Shyamsundara - Lord Of The Beautiful Evenings
Sudarshana - Handsome Lord
Sumedha - Intelligent Lord
Suresham - Lord Of All Demi-Gods
Swargapati - Lord Of Heavens
Trivikrama - Conqueror Of All The Three Worlds
Upendra - Brother Of Indra
Vaikunthanatha - Lord Of Vaikuntha, The Heavenly Abode
Vardhamaanah - The Formless Lord
Vasudev - All Prevailing Lord
Vishnu-All Prevailing Lord
Vishwadakshinah - Skilful And Efficient Lord
Vishwakarma - Creator Of The Universe
Vishwamurti - Of The Form Of The Entire Universe
Vishwarupa - One Who Displays The Universal Form
Vishwatma - Soul Of The Universe
Vrishaparvaa - Lord Of Dharma
Yadavendra - King Of The Yadav Clan
Yogi - The Supreme Master
Yoginampati - Lord Of The Yogis

[bigus_dickus]

Baptism was an Egyptian ritual. I believe that Moses was also a reptilian.

what do you mean Moses was a reptilian? those who Icke talks about? why do you believe that?

and baptism was not only an egyptian ritual, it was a "pagan" ritual in many places. the word baptism is Greek and it means "to immerse".

[bigus_dickus]

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Although the above explanation may be wrong. :eek:

Maybe there where men like Jesus Buddha etc etc

well, christianity is a continuation like everything else is, but it is something new that changes the previous religion, as for example judaism changed the previous religious views from polytheism to monotheism. even the polytheists had most of them an idea of a "supergod", but they would worship and sacrifice to any other god they could contain in some form, namely objects, people, animals and temples.

[bigus_dickus]

The Jews in Egypt where not slaves, the became Pharoes and the Priesthood, they changed parts in the religious text to cover up this fact.

The Old Testament was written around 200-300 BC by 72 priests in Egypt who wrote it in Greek (not Hebrew) for the Jews who spoke Aramaic. The Kabala existed in ancient Egypt although added to after the 1500's. The Talmud was based on the Babylonian Talmud, updated and carried out of Babylon by the Pharisees and the Sadducees and it was then that Judaism began. Origin and symbolism of the Caduceus (western medical symbol). Tyrannical occupation of Egypt for 200 years or so by the Hyksos (Shepherd Kings) and the Habiru (mercenaries) who were a conglomeration of nomadic peoples from the northeast. And much more....

i don't think so.. this looks like misinformation to me. i didn't listen to the mp3's, who is in them?

the old testament was originally written in hebrew and it was an example of ancient hebrew poetry. it does not even resemble poetry in any other language.

[octopusrex]

108 Names of Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead

Achala - Still Lord
Achyuta - Infallible Lord
Adbhutah - Wonderful God
Adidev - The Lord Of The Lords
Aditya - The Son Of Aditi
Ajanma - One Who Is Limitless And Endless
Ajaya - The Conqueror Of Life And Death
Akshara - Indestructible Lord
Amrit - Heavenly nectar or elixir
Anandsagar - Compassionate Lord
Ananta - The Endless Lord
Anantajit - Ever Victorious Lord
Anaya - One Who Has No Leader
Aniruddha - One Who Cannot Be Obstructed
Aparajeet - The Lord Who Cannot Be Defeated
Avyukta - One Who Is As Clear As Crystal
Balgopal - The Child Krishna, The All Attractive
Chaturbhuj - Four-Armed Lord
Danavendra - Granter Of Boons
Dayalu - Repository Of Compassion
Dayanidhi - The Compassionate Lord
Devadidev - The God Of The Gods
Devakinandan - Son Of Mother Devaki
Devesh - Lord Of The Lords
Dharmadhyaksha - The Lord OF Dharma
Dravin - The one who has no Enemies
Dwarkapati - Lord Of Dwarka
Gopal - One Who Plays With The Cowherds, The Gopas
Gopalpriya - Lover Of Cowherds
Govinda - One Who Pleases The Cows, The Land And The Entire Nature
Gyaneshwar - The Lord Of Knowledge
Hari - The Lord Of Nature
Hiranyagarbha - The All Powerful Creator
Hrishikesh - The Lord Of All Senses
Jagadguru - Preceptor Of The Universe
Jagadisha - Protector Of All
Jagannath - Lord Of The Universe
Janardhana - One Who Bestows Boons On One And All
Jayantah - Conqueror Of All Enemies
Jyotiraaditya - The Resplendence Of The Sun
Kamalnath - The Lord Of Goddess Lakshmi
Kamalnayan - The Lord With Lotus Shaped Eyes
Kamsantak - Slayer Of Kamsa
Kanjalochana - The Lotus-Eyed God
Keshava - One Who Has Long, Black Matted Locks
Krishna - Dark-Complexioned Lord
Lakshmikantam - The Lord Of Goddess Lakshmi
Lokadhyaksha - Lord Of All The Three Lokas (Worlds)
Madan - The Lord Of Love
Madhava - Knowledge Filled God
Madhusudan - Slayer Of Demon Madhu
Mahendra - Lord Of Indra
Manmohan - All Pleasing Lord
Manohar - Beautiful Lord
Mayur - The Lord Who Has A Peacock Feathered-Crest
Mohan - All Attractive God
Murali - The Flute Playing Lord
Murlidhar - One Who Holds The Flute
Murlimanohar - The Flute Playing God
Nandakumara - Son of Nanda
Nandgopala - The Son Of Nand
Narayana - The Refuge Of Everyone
Navaneethachora - makan (butter) chor
Niranjana - The Unblemished Lord
Nirguna - Without Any Properties
Padmahasta - One Who Has Hands Like Lotus
Padmanabha - The Lord Who Has A Lotus Shaped Navel
Parabrahmana - The Supreme Absolute Truth
Paramatma - Lord Of All Beings
Parampurush - Supreme Personality
Parthasarthi - Charioteer Of Partha - Arjuna
Prajapati - Lord Of All Creatures
Punyah - Supremely Pure
Purshottam - The Supreme Soul
Ravilochana - One Who Eye Is The Sun
Sahasraakash - Thousand-Eyed Lord
Sahasrajit - One Who Vanquishes Thousands
Sakshi - All Witnessing Lord
Sanatana - The Eternal Lord
Sarvajana - Omniscient Lord
Sarvapalaka - Protector Of All
Sarveshwar - Lord Of All Gods
Satyavachana - One Who Speaks Only The Truth
Satyavrata - The Truth Dedicated Lord
Shantah - Peaceful Lord
Shreshta - The Most Glorious Lord
Shrikanta - Beautiful Lord
Shyam - Dark-Complexioned Lord
Shyamsundara - Lord Of The Beautiful Evenings
Sudarshana - Handsome Lord
Sumedha - Intelligent Lord
Suresham - Lord Of All Demi-Gods
Swargapati - Lord Of Heavens
Trivikrama - Conqueror Of All The Three Worlds
Upendra - Brother Of Indra
Vaikunthanatha - Lord Of Vaikuntha, The Heavenly Abode
Vardhamaanah - The Formless Lord
Vasudev - All Prevailing Lord
Vishnu-All Prevailing Lord
Vishwadakshinah - Skilful And Efficient Lord
Vishwakarma - Creator Of The Universe
Vishwamurti - Of The Form Of The Entire Universe
Vishwarupa - One Who Displays The Universal Form
Vishwatma - Soul Of The Universe
Vrishaparvaa - Lord Of Dharma
Yadavendra - King Of The Yadav Clan
Yogi - The Supreme Master
Yoginampati - Lord Of The Yogis

Folks who read this might not realize how lucky they are.

[serpentoffire]

what do you mean Moses was a reptilian? those who Icke talks about? why do you believe that?

My consideration is driven by his horns and the ability to command serpents:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/Michelangelo20-20MosC3A820Altra20In.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/moses-auch-sm.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/HornyMoses.jpg

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/moses_serpent.jpg



and baptism was not only an egyptian ritual, it was a "pagan" ritual in many places. the word baptism is Greek and it means "to immense".

"Baptism by water is a very old rite, being practiced by the followers of Zoroaster, by the Romans, the Egyptians, and other nations." It was also in vogue among the ancient Hindoos at a still earlier date.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap26.html

[bigus_dickus]

My consideration is driven by his horns and the ability to command serpents:

his horns??

snake charmers are not reptilians!

"Baptism by water is a very old rite, being practiced by the followers of Zoroaster, by the Romans, the Egyptians, and other nations." It was also in vogue among the ancient Hindoos at a still earlier date.

http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/kersey_graves/16/chap26.html

that's what i said too, isn't it.

well, i did make a typo, i fixed it now.

[serpentoffire]

...and why to represent Yhvh in this way?

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/his-38.jpg

[serpentoffire]

his horns??

snake charmers are not reptilians!

The Egyptian Moses is always represented with goat horns. Sometime also Yhvh is represented with horns (I saw with my eyes in a church in Rome, my city).

Moses sent serpents against Jews for their rebellion to Yhvh (what commiseration and love in this act :D).

[bigus_dickus]

...and why to represent Yhvh in this way?

this is not an ancient hebrew drawing. and i don't get the point, do you actually have an argument that makes sense?

[bigus_dickus]

The Egyptian Moses is always represented with goat horns. Sometime also Yhvh is represented with horns (I saw with my eyes in a church in Rome, my city).

this is not true (the bolded).

and also, anyone can draw anyone with horns, or horny - take it as you please.

does this mean that the pictured persons are "reptilians"

by what logic?

Moses sent serpents against Jews for their rebellion to Yhvh (what commiseration and love in this act :D).

even if Moses had a herd of snakes in his command, how exactly does that make him a reptilian?

that's kind of "stretched" logic and will never answer to occam's razor at least, but interesting i must say.

[serpentoffire]

this is not true (the bolded).

and also, anyone can draw anyone with horns, or horny - take it as you please.

does this mean that the pictured persons are "reptilians"

by what logic?

More recently the horns are substituted with two etheric beams of lights exiting from his head.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Moses041.jpg



Repts are like dragons (4 dimensions) superimposed on a human body (3 dimensions) like in this image:

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/beastapocalypse9.jpg

[zero1]

But the Jew Lord seams to be a God of war not a God of commiseration and love. So I believe that Jesus (maybe a different type of Nephilim), God and Holy Spirit are differents entities from Jews Elohims.

Well...the Holy Spirit is the Third Person in the Trinity of God, theologically speaking, and thus not seperate.

And yes, Yahweh is a warrior/fire/volcano god, but why can't people afford him (as GOD) some kind of depth? Jesus, a warrior can be compassionate and loving yet bring the Sword for righteous purposes, in the cause of Man.

As for Nephilim as such, I believe that all has to do with bloodlines; and yes, it is said that JC was of a special bloodline. But details are sketchy...

[octopusrex]

Witchy friends tell me he is Saturn...

[zero1]

Witchy friends tell me he is Saturn...

That's EL. El = Saturn, and the Roman Saturnalia festival was combined with worpship of the OT god by the Church. So yeah, Astro-theology depends on perspective I guess, and it changes.

Saturnine - glowering.

[octopusrex]

That's EL. El = Saturn, and the Roman Saturnalia festival was combined with worpship of the OT god by the Church. So yeah, Astro-theology depends on perspective I guess, and it changes.

Saturnine - glowering.

The "great" question amongst Vaisnavas is: Who is YVHV?

Some speculate he is Brahma (Brahma can't be worshiped by his own name)

Many think he is Krsna....

It is an excellent question.

Gnostic revelations tell us that YVHV is a terrible sorceror who becomes an immortal vampire through blood-sacrifice. This is confirmed by lots of bloody stuff going on in the OT. Certainly as "Lord of Hosts" he has a more martian outlook on life, but for the moment, I will tend to agree with my witchy friends and consider him Saturn.

The Christ is another matter altogether.

[bigus_dickus]

More recently the horns are substituted with two etheric beams of lights exiting from his head.

this is again not true. i mean, that recently artists substituted the horns with beams, while earlier he was depicted with horns. it is simply and plain, not the truth. you are just making up your "proof".

moreover, even if Moses had real horns, how does that connect him to David's reptilians? i guess it doesn't, unless you bring more unsubstantiated assumptions to the table.

Repts are like dragons (4 dimensions) superimposed on a human body (3 dimensions) like in this image:

ok.. and i guess anyone can make any arbitrary assumption about anything and then believe it. sorry, when you said "i believe" i thought that you had logically arrived to some conclusion or truth.

[zero1]

The "great" question amongst Vaisnavas is: Who is YVHV?

Some speculate he is Brahma (Brahma can't be worshiped by his own name)

Many think he is Krsna....It is an excellent question.

Krsna, Buddha, Christ sounds about right.

Gnostic revelations tell us that YVHV is a terrible sorceror who becomes an immortal vampire through blood-sacrifice. This is confirmed by lots of bloody stuff going on in the OT. Certainly as "Lord of Hosts" he has a more martian outlook on life, but for the moment, I will tend to agree with my witchy friends and consider him Saturn.

A terrible sorceror who became an immortal vampire?! :eek: Yikes, I don't know if that's what Gnosticism tells us, but hey, it could just well be...:rolleyes:

The Christ is another matter altogether.

Why?

[blue]

108 Names of Krishna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead

Achala - Still Lord
Achyuta - Infallible Lord
Adbhutah - Wonderful God
Adidev - The Lord Of The Lords
Aditya - The Son Of Aditi
Ajanma - One Who Is Limitless And Endless
Ajaya - The Conqueror Of Life And Death
Akshara - Indestructible Lord
Amrit - Heavenly nectar or elixir
Anandsagar - Compassionate Lord
Ananta - The Endless Lord
Anantajit - Ever Victorious Lord
Anaya - One Who Has No Leader
Aniruddha - One Who Cannot Be Obstructed
Aparajeet - The Lord Who Cannot Be Defeated
Avyukta - One Who Is As Clear As Crystal
Balgopal - The Child Krishna, The All Attractive
Chaturbhuj - Four-Armed Lord
Danavendra - Granter Of Boons
Dayalu - Repository Of Compassion
Dayanidhi - The Compassionate Lord
Devadidev - The God Of The Gods
Devakinandan - Son Of Mother Devaki
Devesh - Lord Of The Lords
Dharmadhyaksha - The Lord OF Dharma
Dravin - The one who has no Enemies
Dwarkapati - Lord Of Dwarka
Gopal - One Who Plays With The Cowherds, The Gopas
Gopalpriya - Lover Of Cowherds
Govinda - One Who Pleases The Cows, The Land And The Entire Nature
Gyaneshwar - The Lord Of Knowledge
Hari - The Lord Of Nature
Hiranyagarbha - The All Powerful Creator
Hrishikesh - The Lord Of All Senses
Jagadguru - Preceptor Of The Universe
Jagadisha - Protector Of All
Jagannath - Lord Of The Universe
Janardhana - One Who Bestows Boons On One And All
Jayantah - Conqueror Of All Enemies
Jyotiraaditya - The Resplendence Of The Sun
Kamalnath - The Lord Of Goddess Lakshmi
Kamalnayan - The Lord With Lotus Shaped Eyes
Kamsantak - Slayer Of Kamsa
Kanjalochana - The Lotus-Eyed God
Keshava - One Who Has Long, Black Matted Locks
Krishna - Dark-Complexioned Lord
Lakshmikantam - The Lord Of Goddess Lakshmi
Lokadhyaksha - Lord Of All The Three Lokas (Worlds)
Madan - The Lord Of Love
Madhava - Knowledge Filled God
Madhusudan - Slayer Of Demon Madhu
Mahendra - Lord Of Indra
Manmohan - All Pleasing Lord
Manohar - Beautiful Lord
Mayur - The Lord Who Has A Peacock Feathered-Crest
Mohan - All Attractive God
Murali - The Flute Playing Lord
Murlidhar - One Who Holds The Flute
Murlimanohar - The Flute Playing God
Nandakumara - Son of Nanda
Nandgopala - The Son Of Nand
Narayana - The Refuge Of Everyone
Navaneethachora - makan (butter) chor
Niranjana - The Unblemished Lord
Nirguna - Without Any Properties
Padmahasta - One Who Has Hands Like Lotus
Padmanabha - The Lord Who Has A Lotus Shaped Navel
Parabrahmana - The Supreme Absolute Truth
Paramatma - Lord Of All Beings
Parampurush - Supreme Personality
Parthasarthi - Charioteer Of Partha - Arjuna
Prajapati - Lord Of All Creatures
Punyah - Supremely Pure
Purshottam - The Supreme Soul
Ravilochana - One Who Eye Is The Sun
Sahasraakash - Thousand-Eyed Lord
Sahasrajit - One Who Vanquishes Thousands
Sakshi - All Witnessing Lord
Sanatana - The Eternal Lord
Sarvajana - Omniscient Lord
Sarvapalaka - Protector Of All
Sarveshwar - Lord Of All Gods
Satyavachana - One Who Speaks Only The Truth
Satyavrata - The Truth Dedicated Lord
Shantah - Peaceful Lord
Shreshta - The Most Glorious Lord
Shrikanta - Beautiful Lord
Shyam - Dark-Complexioned Lord
Shyamsundara - Lord Of The Beautiful Evenings
Sudarshana - Handsome Lord
Sumedha - Intelligent Lord
Suresham - Lord Of All Demi-Gods
Swargapati - Lord Of Heavens
Trivikrama - Conqueror Of All The Three Worlds
Upendra - Brother Of Indra
Vaikunthanatha - Lord Of Vaikuntha, The Heavenly Abode
Vardhamaanah - The Formless Lord
Vasudev - All Prevailing Lord
Vishnu-All Prevailing Lord
Vishwadakshinah - Skilful And Efficient Lord
Vishwakarma - Creator Of The Universe
Vishwamurti - Of The Form Of The Entire Universe
Vishwarupa - One Who Displays The Universal Form
Vishwatma - Soul Of The Universe
Vrishaparvaa - Lord Of Dharma
Yadavendra - King Of The Yadav Clan
Yogi - The Supreme Master
Yoginampati - Lord Of The Yogis

99 names of Allah

# Allah

* Allah, He who has the Godhood which is the power to create the entities.

# Ar-Rahmaan

* The Compassionate, The Beneficient, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter.

# Ar-Raheem

* The Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers.

# Al-Malik

* The King, The Sovereign Lord, The One with the complete Dominion, the One Whose Dominion is clear from imperfection.

# Al-Quddoos

* The Holy, The One who is pure from any imperfection and clear from children and adversaries.

# As-Salaam

* The Source of Peace, The One who is free from every imperfection.

# Al-Mu'min
* Guardian of Faith, The One who witnessed for Himself that no one is God but Him. And He witnessed for His believers that they are truthful in their belief that no one is God but Him.

# Al-Muhaimin
* The Protector, The One who witnesses the saying and deeds of His creatures.

# Al-^Azeez
* The Mighty, The Strong, The Defeater who is not defeated.

# Al-Jabbaar
* The Compeller, The One that nothing happens in His Dominion except that which He willed.

# Al-Mutakabbir
* The Majestic, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures and from resembling them.

# Al-Khaaliq
* The Creator, The One who brings everything from non-existence to existence.

# Al-Bari'
* The Evolver, The Maker, The Creator who has the Power to turn the entities.

# Al-Musawwir
* The Fashioner, The One who forms His creatures in different pictures.

# Al-Ghaffaar
* The Great Forgiver, The Forgiver, The One who forgives the sins of His slaves time and time again.

# Al-Qahhaar
* The Subduer, The Dominant, The One who has the perfect Power and is not unable over anything.

# Al-Wahhaab
* The Bestower, The One who is Generous in giving plenty without any return. He is everything that benefits whether Halal or Haram.

# Al-Razzaaq
* The Sustainer, The Provider.

# Al-Fattaah
* The Opener, The Reliever, The Judge, The One who opens for His slaves the closed worldy and religious matters.

# Al-^Aleem
* The All-knowing, The Knowledgeable; The One nothing is absent from His knowledge.

# Al-Qaabid
* The Constricter, The Retainer, The Withholder, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.

# Al-Baasit
* The Expander, The Englarger, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.

# Al-Khaafid
* The Abaser, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.

# Ar-Raafi^
* The Exalter, The Elevator, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.

# Al-Mu^iz
* The Honorer, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.

# Al-Muthil
* The Dishonorer, The Humiliator, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.

# As-Samee^
* The All-Hearing, The Hearer, The One who Hears all things that are heard by His Eternal Hearing without an ear, instrument or organ.

# Al-Baseer
* The All-Seeing, The One who Sees all things that are seen by His Eternal Seeing without a pupil or any other instrument.

# Al-Hakam
* The Judge, He is the Ruler and His judgment is His Word.

# Al-^Adl
* The Just, The One who is entitled to do what He does.

# Al-Lateef
* The Subtle One, The Gracious, The One who is kind to His slaves and endows upon them.

# Al-Khabeer
* The Aware, The One who knows the truth of things.

# Al-Haleem
* The Forebearing, The Clement, The One who delays the punishment for those who deserve it and then He might forgive them.

# Al-^Azeem
* The Great One, The Mighty, The One deserving the attributes of Exaltment, Glory, Extolement,and Purity from all imperfection.

# Al-Ghafoor
* The All-Forgiving, The Forgiving, The One who forgives a lot.

# Ash-Shakoor
* The Grateful, The Appreciative, The One who gives a lot of reward for a little obedience.

# Al-^Aliyy
* The Most High, The Sublime, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures.

# Al-Kabeer
* The Most Great, The Great, The One who is greater than everything in status.

# Al-Hafeez
* The Preserver, The Protector, The One who protects whatever and whoever He willed to protect.

# Al-Muqeet
* The Maintainer, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer, The One who has the Power.

# Al-Haseeb
* The Reckoner, The One who gives the satisfaction.

# Aj-Jaleel
* The Sublime One, The Beneficent, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.

# Al-Kareem
* The Generous One, The Bountiful, The Gracious, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.

# Ar-Raqeeb
* The Watcher, The Watchful, The One that nothing is absent from Him. Hence it's meaning is related to the attribute of Knowledge.

# Al-Mujeeb
* The Responsive, The Hearkener, The One who answers the one in need if he asks Him and rescues the yearner if he calls upon Him.

# Al-Wasi^
* The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Knowledgeable.

# Al-Hakeem
* The Wise, The Judge of Judges, The One who is correct in His doings.

# Al-Wadood
* The Loving, The One who loves His believing slaves and His believing slaves love Him. His love to His slaves is His Will to be merciful to them and praise them:Hence it's meaning is related to the attributes of the Will and Kalam (His attribute with which He orders and forbids and spoke to Muhammad and Musa -peace be upon them- . It is not a sound nor a language nor a letter.).

# Al-Majeed
* The Most Glorious One, The Glorious, The One who is with perfect Power, High Status, Compassion, Generosity and Kindness.

# Al-Ba^ith
* The Reserrector, The Raiser (from death), The One who resurrects His slaves after death for reward and/or punishment.

# Ash-Shaheed
* The Witness, The One who nothing is absent from Him.

# Al-Haqq
* The Truth, The True, The One who truly exists.

# Al-Wakeel
* The Trustee, The One who gives the satisfaction and is relied upon.

# Al-Qawiyy
* The Most Strong, The Strong, The One with the complete Power.

# Al-Mateen
* The Firm One, The One with extreme Power which is un-interrupted and He does not get tired.

# Al-Waliyy
* The Protecting Friend, The Supporter.

# Al-Hameed
* The Praiseworthy, The praised One who deserves to be praised.

# Al-Muhsee
* The Counter, The Reckoner, The One who the count of things are known to him.

# Al-Mubdi'
* The Originator, The One who started the human being. That is, He created him.

# Al-Mu^eed
* The Reproducer, The One who brings back the creatures after death.

# Al-Muhyi
* The Restorer, The Giver of Life, The One who took out a living human from semen that does not have a soul. He gives life by giving the souls back to the worn out bodies on the resurrection day and He makes the hearts alive by the light of knowledge.

# Al-Mumeet
* The Creator of Death, The Destroyer, The One who renders the living dead.

# Al-Hayy
* The Alive, The One attributed with a life that is unlike our life and is not that of a combination of soul, flesh or blood.

# Al-Qayyoom
* The Self-Subsisting, The One who remains and does not end.

# Al-Waajid
* The Perceiver, The Finder, The Rich who is never poor. Al-Wajd is Richness.

# Al-Waahid
* The Unique, The One, The One without a partner.

# Al-Ahad
* The One.

# As-Samad
* The Eternal, The Independent, The Master who is relied upon in matters and reverted to in ones needs.

# Al-Qaadir
* The Able, The Capable, The One attributed with Power.

# Al-Muqtadir
* The Powerful, The Dominant, The One with the perfect Power that nothing is withheld from Him.

# Al-Muqaddim
* The Expediter, The Promoter, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.

# Al-Mu'akh-khir
* The Delayer, the Retarder, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.

# Al-'Awwal
* The First, The One whose Existence is without a beginning.

# Al-'Akhir
* The Last, The One whose Existence is without an end.

# Az-Zaahir
* The Manifest, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.

# Al-Baatin
* The Hidden, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.

# Al-Walee
* The Governor, The One who owns things and manages them.

# Al-Muta^ali
* The Most Exalted, The High Exalted, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creation.

# Al-Barr
* The Source of All Goodness, The Righteous, The One who is kind to His creatures, who covered them with His sustenance and specified whoever He willed among them by His support, protection, and special mercy.

# At-Tawwaab
* The Acceptor of Repentance, The Relenting, The One who grants repentance to whoever He willed among His creatures and accepts his repentance.

# Al-Muntaqim
* The Avenger, The One who victoriously prevails over His enemies and punishes them for their sins. It may mean the One who destroys them.

# Al-^Afuww
* The Pardoner, The Forgiver, The One with wide forgiveness.

# Ar-Ra'uf
* The Compassionate, The One with extreme Mercy. The Mercy of Allah is His will to endow upon whoever He willed among His creatures.

# Malik Al-Mulk
* The Eternal Owner of Sovereignty, The One who controls the Dominion and gives dominion to whoever He willed.

# Thul-Jalali wal-Ikram
* The Lord of Majesty and Bounty, The One who deserves to be Exalted and not denied.

# Al-Muqsit
* The Equitable, The One who is Just in His judgment.

# Aj-Jaami^
* The Gatherer, The One who gathers the creatures on a day that there is no doubt about, that is the Day of Judgment.

# Al-Ghaniyy
* The Self-Sufficient, The One who does not need the creation.

# Al-Mughni
* The Enricher, The One who satisfies the necessities of the creatures.

# Al-Maani^
* The Preventer, The Withholder.

# Ad-Daarr
* The Distresser, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.

# An-Nafi^
* The Propitious, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.

# An-Noor
* The Light, The One who guides.

# Al-Haadi
* The Guide, The One whom with His Guidance His belivers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them.

# Al-Badi^
* The Incomparable, The One who created the creation and formed it without any preceding example.

# Al-Baaqi
* The Everlasting, The One that the state of non-existence is impossible for Him.

# Al-Waarith
* The Supreme Inheritor, The Heir, The One whose Existence remains.

# Ar-Rasheed
* The Guide to the Right Path, The One who guides.

# As-Saboor
* The Patient, The One who does not quickly punish the sinners.

[pilgrim]

99 names of Allah

# Allah

* Allah, He who has the Godhood which is the power to create the entities.

# Ar-Rahmaan

* The Compassionate, The Beneficient, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter.

# Ar-Raheem

* The Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers.

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Good stuff blue, Thanks for posting! :)

[serpentoffire]

Gnostic revelations tell us that YVHV is a terrible sorceror who becomes an immortal vampire through blood-sacrifice. This is confirmed by lots of bloody stuff going on in the OT. Certainly as "Lord of Hosts" he has a more martian outlook on life, but for the moment, I will tend to agree with my witchy friends and consider him Saturn.



I knew that Saturn in astro-theology is linked to Lucifer (sametime also Venus). I believe that also Yhvh is also a rept like Moses (the burning bush).

[octopusrex]

Krsna, Buddha, Christ sounds about right.



A terrible sorceror who became an immortal vampire?! :eek: Yikes, I don't know if that's what Gnosticism tells us, but hey, it could just well be...:rolleyes:



Why?


For his clever one-liners. I got the bit about the gnostics from deoxy.

[octopusrex]

99 names of Allah

# Allah

* Allah, He who has the Godhood which is the power to create the entities.

# Ar-Rahmaan

* The Compassionate, The Beneficient, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers and the blasphemers in this world and especially for the believers in the hereafter.

# Ar-Raheem

* The Merciful, The One who has plenty of mercy for the believers.

# Al-Malik

* The King, The Sovereign Lord, The One with the complete Dominion, the One Whose Dominion is clear from imperfection.

# Al-Quddoos

* The Holy, The One who is pure from any imperfection and clear from children and adversaries.

# As-Salaam

* The Source of Peace, The One who is free from every imperfection.

# Al-Mu'min
* Guardian of Faith, The One who witnessed for Himself that no one is God but Him. And He witnessed for His believers that they are truthful in their belief that no one is God but Him.

# Al-Muhaimin
* The Protector, The One who witnesses the saying and deeds of His creatures.

# Al-^Azeez
* The Mighty, The Strong, The Defeater who is not defeated.

# Al-Jabbaar
* The Compeller, The One that nothing happens in His Dominion except that which He willed.

# Al-Mutakabbir
* The Majestic, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures and from resembling them.

# Al-Khaaliq
* The Creator, The One who brings everything from non-existence to existence.

# Al-Bari'
* The Evolver, The Maker, The Creator who has the Power to turn the entities.

# Al-Musawwir
* The Fashioner, The One who forms His creatures in different pictures.

# Al-Ghaffaar
* The Great Forgiver, The Forgiver, The One who forgives the sins of His slaves time and time again.

# Al-Qahhaar
* The Subduer, The Dominant, The One who has the perfect Power and is not unable over anything.

# Al-Wahhaab
* The Bestower, The One who is Generous in giving plenty without any return. He is everything that benefits whether Halal or Haram.

# Al-Razzaaq
* The Sustainer, The Provider.

# Al-Fattaah
* The Opener, The Reliever, The Judge, The One who opens for His slaves the closed worldy and religious matters.

# Al-^Aleem
* The All-knowing, The Knowledgeable; The One nothing is absent from His knowledge.

# Al-Qaabid
* The Constricter, The Retainer, The Withholder, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.

# Al-Baasit
* The Expander, The Englarger, The One who constricts the sustenance by His wisdomand expands and widens it with His Generosity and Mercy.

# Al-Khaafid
* The Abaser, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.

# Ar-Raafi^
* The Exalter, The Elevator, The One who lowers whoever He willed by His Destruction and raises whoever He willed by His Endowment.

# Al-Mu^iz
* The Honorer, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.

# Al-Muthil
* The Dishonorer, The Humiliator, He gives esteem to whoever He willed, hence there is no one to degrade Him; And He degrades whoever He willed, hence there is no one to give Him esteem.

# As-Samee^
* The All-Hearing, The Hearer, The One who Hears all things that are heard by His Eternal Hearing without an ear, instrument or organ.

# Al-Baseer
* The All-Seeing, The One who Sees all things that are seen by His Eternal Seeing without a pupil or any other instrument.

# Al-Hakam
* The Judge, He is the Ruler and His judgment is His Word.

# Al-^Adl
* The Just, The One who is entitled to do what He does.

# Al-Lateef
* The Subtle One, The Gracious, The One who is kind to His slaves and endows upon them.

# Al-Khabeer
* The Aware, The One who knows the truth of things.

# Al-Haleem
* The Forebearing, The Clement, The One who delays the punishment for those who deserve it and then He might forgive them.

# Al-^Azeem
* The Great One, The Mighty, The One deserving the attributes of Exaltment, Glory, Extolement,and Purity from all imperfection.

# Al-Ghafoor
* The All-Forgiving, The Forgiving, The One who forgives a lot.

# Ash-Shakoor
* The Grateful, The Appreciative, The One who gives a lot of reward for a little obedience.

# Al-^Aliyy
* The Most High, The Sublime, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creatures.

# Al-Kabeer
* The Most Great, The Great, The One who is greater than everything in status.

# Al-Hafeez
* The Preserver, The Protector, The One who protects whatever and whoever He willed to protect.

# Al-Muqeet
* The Maintainer, The Guardian, The Feeder, The Sustainer, The One who has the Power.

# Al-Haseeb
* The Reckoner, The One who gives the satisfaction.

# Aj-Jaleel
* The Sublime One, The Beneficent, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.

# Al-Kareem
* The Generous One, The Bountiful, The Gracious, The One who is attributed with greatness of Power and Glory of status.

# Ar-Raqeeb
* The Watcher, The Watchful, The One that nothing is absent from Him. Hence it's meaning is related to the attribute of Knowledge.

# Al-Mujeeb
* The Responsive, The Hearkener, The One who answers the one in need if he asks Him and rescues the yearner if he calls upon Him.

# Al-Wasi^
* The Vast, The All-Embracing, The Knowledgeable.

# Al-Hakeem
* The Wise, The Judge of Judges, The One who is correct in His doings.

# Al-Wadood
* The Loving, The One who loves His believing slaves and His believing slaves love Him. His love to His slaves is His Will to be merciful to them and praise them:Hence it's meaning is related to the attributes of the Will and Kalam (His attribute with which He orders and forbids and spoke to Muhammad and Musa -peace be upon them- . It is not a sound nor a language nor a letter.).

# Al-Majeed
* The Most Glorious One, The Glorious, The One who is with perfect Power, High Status, Compassion, Generosity and Kindness.

# Al-Ba^ith
* The Reserrector, The Raiser (from death), The One who resurrects His slaves after death for reward and/or punishment.

# Ash-Shaheed
* The Witness, The One who nothing is absent from Him.

# Al-Haqq
* The Truth, The True, The One who truly exists.

# Al-Wakeel
* The Trustee, The One who gives the satisfaction and is relied upon.

# Al-Qawiyy
* The Most Strong, The Strong, The One with the complete Power.

# Al-Mateen
* The Firm One, The One with extreme Power which is un-interrupted and He does not get tired.

# Al-Waliyy
* The Protecting Friend, The Supporter.

# Al-Hameed
* The Praiseworthy, The praised One who deserves to be praised.

# Al-Muhsee
* The Counter, The Reckoner, The One who the count of things are known to him.

# Al-Mubdi'
* The Originator, The One who started the human being. That is, He created him.

# Al-Mu^eed
* The Reproducer, The One who brings back the creatures after death.

# Al-Muhyi
* The Restorer, The Giver of Life, The One who took out a living human from semen that does not have a soul. He gives life by giving the souls back to the worn out bodies on the resurrection day and He makes the hearts alive by the light of knowledge.

# Al-Mumeet
* The Creator of Death, The Destroyer, The One who renders the living dead.

# Al-Hayy
* The Alive, The One attributed with a life that is unlike our life and is not that of a combination of soul, flesh or blood.

# Al-Qayyoom
* The Self-Subsisting, The One who remains and does not end.

# Al-Waajid
* The Perceiver, The Finder, The Rich who is never poor. Al-Wajd is Richness.

# Al-Waahid
* The Unique, The One, The One without a partner.

# Al-Ahad
* The One.

# As-Samad
* The Eternal, The Independent, The Master who is relied upon in matters and reverted to in ones needs.

# Al-Qaadir
* The Able, The Capable, The One attributed with Power.

# Al-Muqtadir
* The Powerful, The Dominant, The One with the perfect Power that nothing is withheld from Him.

# Al-Muqaddim
* The Expediter, The Promoter, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.

# Al-Mu'akh-khir
* The Delayer, the Retarder, The One who puts things in their right places. He makes ahead what He wills and delays what He wills.

# Al-'Awwal
* The First, The One whose Existence is without a beginning.

# Al-'Akhir
* The Last, The One whose Existence is without an end.

# Az-Zaahir
* The Manifest, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.

# Al-Baatin
* The Hidden, The One that nothing is above Him and nothing is underneath Him, hence He exists without a place. He, The Exalted, His Existence is obvious by proofs and He is clear from the delusions of attributes of bodies.

# Al-Walee
* The Governor, The One who owns things and manages them.

# Al-Muta^ali
* The Most Exalted, The High Exalted, The One who is clear from the attributes of the creation.

# Al-Barr
* The Source of All Goodness, The Righteous, The One who is kind to His creatures, who covered them with His sustenance and specified whoever He willed among them by His support, protection, and special mercy.

# At-Tawwaab
* The Acceptor of Repentance, The Relenting, The One who grants repentance to whoever He willed among His creatures and accepts his repentance.

# Al-Muntaqim
* The Avenger, The One who victoriously prevails over His enemies and punishes them for their sins. It may mean the One who destroys them.

# Al-^Afuww
* The Pardoner, The Forgiver, The One with wide forgiveness.

# Ar-Ra'uf
* The Compassionate, The One with extreme Mercy. The Mercy of Allah is His will to endow upon whoever He willed among His creatures.

# Malik Al-Mulk
* The Eternal Owner of Sovereignty, The One who controls the Dominion and gives dominion to whoever He willed.

# Thul-Jalali wal-Ikram
* The Lord of Majesty and Bounty, The One who deserves to be Exalted and not denied.

# Al-Muqsit
* The Equitable, The One who is Just in His judgment.

# Aj-Jaami^
* The Gatherer, The One who gathers the creatures on a day that there is no doubt about, that is the Day of Judgment.

# Al-Ghaniyy
* The Self-Sufficient, The One who does not need the creation.

# Al-Mughni
* The Enricher, The One who satisfies the necessities of the creatures.

# Al-Maani^
* The Preventer, The Withholder.

# Ad-Daarr
* The Distresser, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.

# An-Nafi^
* The Propitious, The One who makes harm reach to whoever He willed and benefit to whoever He willed.

# An-Noor
* The Light, The One who guides.

# Al-Haadi
* The Guide, The One whom with His Guidance His belivers were guided, and with His Guidance the living beings have been guided to what is beneficial for them and protected from what is harmful to them.

# Al-Badi^
* The Incomparable, The One who created the creation and formed it without any preceding example.

# Al-Baaqi
* The Everlasting, The One that the state of non-existence is impossible for Him.

# Al-Waarith
* The Supreme Inheritor, The Heir, The One whose Existence remains.

# Ar-Rasheed
* The Guide to the Right Path, The One who guides.

# As-Saboor
* The Patient, The One who does not quickly punish the sinners.

Wow.. Now we got really lucky. We should be repeating these two combined daily! Fact is.. God has many, many names.

[element]

God is everything and we are god.

Do not seperate yourself from god, god isn't a person and has no name or gender.

Your body (temple) is the vehicle for your soul (god)

[pilgrim]

god isn't a person and has no name or gender.

How do you know that?

If we have personalties then God must also have a personality, otherwise it would mean that we had something God didn't.

There is plenty of information about God's Personality here:
http://causelessmercy.com/KB.htm

http://saranaagathi.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/krishna1.jpg

[element]

I like those Iindian pictures:D

But....

there are more things god (soul) does not have and we (our ego) do have.

Does god has arrogance?
Does god has money?
Does god has a father or a mother?
Does god has a toilet?

It means we (body,ego etc) have things god has not.

''gods created in human's image'' comes to my mind :rolleyes:

[pilgrim]

Krsna is adi-purusa; He’s a person. But because He’s not a person like us, therefore ordinary person cannot understand God can be person. He thinks that “God must be a person like me.” His limited knowledge, speculator, poor fund of knowledge, he thinks that “God must be like me.” Therefore in some of the scriptures He’s denied personality, because this rascal thinks that “God is a person like me.” Therefore it is said: not person. When it is said God is not person, that means He’s not a person like you. He’s not a rascal like you. That is description. When it is negatively described that He’s not a person, that means He’s not a person like you. But He’s a person, a different person. His person is eternal. He does not die. We die. He’s full of bliss. Our, this body, is not full of bliss; full of miseries. So how God can be a person like you? Therefore sometimes He is described as impersonal. Otherwise God is a person. He’s a person like us, and He’s the original person.
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PS: God isn't Indian.

[serpentoffire]

God is everything and we are god.

Do not seperate yourself from god, god isn't a person and has no name or gender.

Your body (temple) is the vehicle for your soul (god)

Finally an illumined statement.

[element]

The concept of soul being god makes perfect sense within that text you put there actually.;)

Finally an illumined statement.


Could you be more clear please?

[serpentoffire]

The concept of soul being god makes perfect sense within that text you put there actually.;)

Could you be more clear please?

I'm simply agree with you.

[Mo0n5tar]

72 names of god
http://www.utchs.com/Images/72_Names_of_God_chart.jpg

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

Hi moonstar; this guy goes into great depth into the subject of the Old Testament Godhead.

Very interesting, very little speculation

The Serpent Race/Reptilians, don't like YHWH, go figure? :confused: :rolleyes:

1 of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-W6c9a3ldQ

The Divine Council and Godhead of the OT
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40255

Lots of Stuff!
http://www.michaelsheiser.com/

http://www.sitchiniswrong.com/