Why British sailors did not resist??!!!

[december]

Why did they allow to be captured? They DID have guns. Right?
So, what kind of ........ are they?

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2004/06/22/430_iranheld.jpg

They are NOT some goofy Japanese fishermen. Right? They knew that they were in the war zone...

So...

The question is - if they KNEW about their location why would they move into Iran's waters? 8-)

I also wonder why Iranians did not shoot at the British sailors?
Is it because British sailors did NOT try to flee?
And if this is the case WHY they did not try to flee?

Well, I guess they really KNEW that they were in Iran's waters and they wanted to be captured.

http://steelturman.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/kurils.gif

RUSSIAN COAST GUARD SHOOTS JAPANESE FISHERMAN IN DISPUTED WATERS.

A border incident has reignited the decades-long territorial dispute between Moscow and Tokyo. Russian border guards fired on a Japanese boat in disputed waters, killing a fisherman, for allegedly poaching in Russian territorial waters. Japan responded with a “strong protest” to Moscow.
http://www.jamestown.org/edm/article.php?article_id=2371403


Japan fisherman killed by Russia

Japan summoned Russia's ambassador for an explanation
A Japanese fisherman has been shot dead by a Russian patrol boat near a chain of disputed islands, the first fatality in 50 years, media reports said.
http://trailfire.com/pages/form.php?aid=check&bubble=7630


Russian shooting of Japanese fisherman heightens tensions over Kuril islands

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2006/aug2006/japa-a31.shtml

[edelweiss pirate]

Agent provocateurs!

Hah! it didn't work and now the goons have got eggie faces.

[friendsinthesky]

Well, I guess they really KNEW that they were in Iran's waters and they wanted to be captured.[/b]


When I read the news today (oh boy), that's my exact thoughts.^....and so the story begins.

[midwich cuckoo]

HOW IRAN TREATS PRISONERS

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/faye.jpg


HOW THE US TREATS PRISONERS

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/POWABUSE/Tortured.01.jpg

[phenylamine]

I find it funny(in a twisted way)that we are expected to swallow hook line and sinker all confessions obtained through U.S. torture of "enemy combatants" as absolute truth.While at the same time being told that confessions obtained by Iran WITHOUT the use of any torture methods are not to be believed.Why are the british soilders lying about being in Iranian waters Mr. Blair?,Hmm no answer huh?I think they speak the truth Mr. Blair, and I think you are the liar.

[Anders Lindman]

Well, I guess they really KNEW that they were in Iran's waters and they wanted to be captured.


Yepp. Or, more likely, they were ordered to enter Iran's water as a part of a media stunt. I don't think they just 'happened' to enter Iran's water as if their compass or GPS system somehow had broken down, or having a drunk captain that didn't know where he was going. It smacks more of a problem-reaction-solution scam, that now is faithfully being presented by mainstream media:

http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/03/31/iran.sailors/index.html

[december]

When I read the news today (oh boy), that's my exact thoughts.^....and so the story begins.

I don't understand WHY these sailors allowed Iranians to be arrested!

We don't know the details. Did they try to flee? Yes?/No?

They were not ambushed on some twisted road in Iraq, they were on the "open water" where they could see with a naked eye for miles...

Sometimes I think that they were simply set up.

And those who did set them up knew pretty well that the Iran/Iraq border is questionable and therefore it is easy to appear on the wrong side of imaginary line.

Also those who set them up knew how to put the sailors in a situation where they can get lost and of course they knew how a British sailor ought to behave in this sort of situation.

In other words, the British sailors behaved just the way they had been instructed to behave in this explosive area, and it's NOT their fault that they are in Iran. They just followed the protocol.

And I think that they now realise that they have been manipulated into this sort of situation.

[truthseeker1980]

Hi December,

Have a look at my post BBC war propoganda machine starts accelerating which i posted only a few hours before the staged capturing apparently happened.

it is at the bottom of the posts on this page or if you are extra lazy here is a link to it.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2110


It's funny how the BBC interviewed Faye only hours before they were taken hostage. It's all staged to gear the general non questioning brain washed public, into getting ready for a war with Iran, buy havin a mother being captured to pull the publics heart strings and then making other reasons to attack after. using the repeater policy David talks about with the reporters all saying the same thing so people think it must be true and wont question any of it.

Path to WW3?
First was afganistan and Iraq, then lebenon or syria, 3 of which hav come true, then iran, then obviously syria seeing as Blair and Bush were overheard, then either China or north korea then wahey WW3, before 2012. Diminishing the world popualtion as planned by the illuminati for before 2012.

[armitage_vi]

My theory is:

A) They were in the wrong and new they were in the wrong, didn't think it was going to be a big deal, go to some goverment compound then get released.

B) They were sent out there in hopes of being captured, so we would have progaganda fodder to go provoke the Iranians even more. See once we see Americans, or Brits "in danger" then that will get all the sheeple in a tizzy so we can unjustly invade yet another country......

ALSO GOOD point on how THEY treat prisoners and how WE treat prisoners.....

[december]

An interesting post from one forum:

"Well speaking as an ex-member of the Royal Navy, I think they were following their rules of engagement.

These orders are carried by all armed personel.

They are written differently in various circumstances, but probably included a rule saying not to fire unless you or your comrades are in danger and firing will save them.

Royal Marines, are unlike their US counterparts in that they think before they shoot. Sometimes it takes more balls NOT to fire than to empty your magazine and start a war.

I don`t understand 2 points about this whole thing though:

1 - Why were they so far from the sfrigate?

2 - Where was the helicopter during all this? SURELY it would have seen these Iranian boats coming and told them via radio.

I have a theory though...

The Pentagon wants a war with Iran right?

The Pentagon feeds ALL GPS coordinates to everyone right? (The British, independent version just went online though I think. Maybe to stop this kind of thing happening.)

I think the US "top brass" sent the british sailors and marines to be killed but, they didn`t fall for it. I think they believed they were in Iraqi waters".

[mrguitarbear]

I think they were set up by the US government or by the UK government. How very helpful for Allied propaganda that there was a young mother aboard the boat...