The Pentagram, Stars and other Symbols

[tinmenace]

I have this fascinating book called Dictionary of Symbols by Carl. G. Liungman.

It has the most fascinating information which I'd like to share with you.

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The Pentagram within a circle

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This ideogram has no meaning by itself. A filled version of the sign is used as a symbol of war in the United States and appears on tanks and fighter jets.

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This sign can be called design-iconic symbol for the planet Venus. This planet is the only one in our system that can clearly be identified with a graphic structure unambiguously derived from a plotting of its astronomical movement in space.

If one knows the ecliptic and can pinpoint the present position of the planets in relation to the constellations of fixed stars in the zodiac, it is possible to mark the exact place in the 360 degrees of the zodiac where the morning star first appears shortly before sunrise after a period of invisibility

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If we do this, wait for the morning star to appear again 584 days later (the synodic orbital time of Venus) and mark its position in the zodiac, and then repeat this process until we have five positions of Venus as the morning star, we will find that exactly eight years plus one day have passed. If we then draw a line from the first point marked to the second point marked, then to the third, and so on, we end up with a pentagram.

The following lines are taken from Zehren's An Annotated Bibliography: "It was only the planet Venus that possessed the five-pointed star sign. Not one of the innumerable stars above us can by its orbit recreate this sign."

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/29/2914.html



Absolutely incredible!

...After 1460 solar years the 'hands' stood at their original places. This unit of 1460 years is the Egyptian 'Sothis year'and belongs not only to the god Seth-Sirius but, much more importantly, to the goddess Sothis. And this goddess was no other than ...Venus herself.

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http://mv.vatican.va/3_EN/pages/x-Schede/MEZs/MEZs_Sala03_01_11_010.html

"The space of time between the first appearance of the planet Venus and its reappearance at the same place is exactly 1,460 days, i.e., four solar years, which was the calendar used in antiquity by the Greeks to measure the Olympiades (which is also the time interval between the modern Olympic Games).

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2004 Olympic Medal

The pentagon, also can be produced by the above procedure, with the difference that one takes into account Venus's first appearance irrespective of whether it is as the morning or the evening star.

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Among those peoples who do not know that the two appearances represent one planet, we thus get two gods or divine powers, both related to the number 8. The reason for this is that Venus is visible in one of its two appearances during a period of 245-247 days, which is equivalent to eight cycles of the moon. It was possible to see the brightest star in the heavens together with the new moon (or waning moon) eight times before it eventually was swallowed by the sun, i.e., made invisible by the sun's light.

It was only when humans realized that the morning star and the evening star were the same planet that the pentagon, and the four year period could be linked to Venus.

The Akkadians were the first to realize this. Inanna, the Sumerian Queen of the heavens and the daughter of the moon, was given another role by the Semitic Akkadians. She was called Ischtar, the Queen of the heavens, goddess of war but also of divine beauty and peace.

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Note the horned helmet, her wings, her reptilian feet and the owls

...to be continued....

[tinmenace]

There were three highest divinities in the Euphrates-Tigris region. Their symbols can be seen in almost every ancient mythological representation.

They are the SUN GOD

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See the eye in the center of it? This is also the symbol for the sun.



The MOON GOD

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and Inanna, Ischtar, or Astarte.

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Again with the central eye or sun symbol.


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Basic Sun symbol


Yet despite the fact that the true nature of Venus had been discovered and established in the Euphrates-Tigri region, the barbaric priests and medicine men of the Greek tribes continued to believe that the morning and evening stars were two separate entities. The differences between the correspondng two divinities were more accentuated than in other cultures, and these differences crystallized with the overall development of their civilization into Athena, the morning star and goddess of hunt (Diana) and battle, and Aphrodite the evening goddess of love.

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It was not until 400 BC (about 1500 years after the Sumerians) that the Greeks discovered the unity of the morning star and the evening star. This is when the morning and evening stars were graphically united, in which one four-pointed star is placed behind the other.

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Diogenes Laertius writes: "...and it is believed that he [Parmenides, 400 BC] realized, as the first, that the evening and morning stars were the same star, which Favorinus relates to us in his fifth book of 'Worthwhile Thoughts'. Others claim it was Pythagoras"

Throughout history we find that always one of Venus's two aspects has been overemphasized, and this has occured in nearly all cultural spheres. In Greece it was Athena, goddess of war and the war-like and slave-like holding Athens, who predominated at the cost of Aphrodite.

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Does her crown remind you of anything or anyone?

I just want to mention at this time that David has always said it's the negative energies that are used against us, while the positive energies are oppressed. I think this information clearly demonstrates that fact.


The negative aspects have continued in this vein and Venus has given us the symbol of war par preference:

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Last, we should mention that Ischtar, Venus and Inanna all represented a divinity of fertility and not only goddess of war and sexual pleasures. The most illustrative symbol for this particular quality must be a young woman with her child. When a new ideology discovers that it cannot wipe out an ancient and well-established ideological structure, almost as impossible to get rid of as is the brightest star in the sky of planet earth, it can adopt this structure (if you can't beat them, join them) and attempt to change its meaning by giving the symbol new meaning.

This is partially possible, though. The new ideological establishment can try to emphasize and encourage those elements that agree with the new ideology and at the same time suppress those that do not. The ardent advocates of the Christian ideology thus approved of fertility, but disapproved of tis relation to sexual pleasures and tried to suppress this aspect of fertility, though not fertility as such.

As a result we still have, after 2000 years, of ideological domination by the Christian faith (Catholicism), a holy female god, an Inanna, a goddess of fertility, but a very strange one, one who has managed to bear the best of earthly fruit of all - a human child - but without having engaged in un-Christian lustful and lecherous activities with a man.

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Notice the sun symbol on her shoulder and the symbol of Ischtar on her head

[tinmenace]

Those 2000 years have been characterized by the conflict between high but often stupid ideals and a hateful practice, the conflict between the two fish bound together and forever trying to swim in different directions, by the sign of Jesus - the fish (or Pisces).

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The conflicting oppositions.

From this comes the whore and the madonna complex and the worship of the virgin vulva which, instead of being a symbol for lecherous intimacy and pleasure, has been turned into a symbol for Jesus, for torture, for the degradation of one human by another.

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http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/44/4411.html

This shape is known as the MANDORLA and is massively prevalent in Christian art. Drawn sideways, it was seen in Egyptian art (eye of Horus).

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/the-eye-of-horus.jpg


Horus was the son of Isis (see how the same symbol represents both sons/suns - Jesus and Horus)

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[thoth]

In witchcraft, when you begin to "cast a spell" or invoke power, a circle is commonly used. Putting a tentagram inside of a circle enhances this power. I think because circles are kinds of like portholes in someway. How, I am not sure at this point. The eyes are portholes, and they are circles. Concentric rings is another way to utilize major energy. The eye on a stove, a tesla coil and the inside of every major sporting arena have concentric rings. Electrons can get excited easily in spirals and concentric rings.

[tinmenace]

Hey Thoth,

Wow, yeah, there's a lot I don't know. Thanks for the info. I just stuck to the symbolism of it all and it's origin. I had no idea that Venus formed the shape of a pentagram in the sky. I just never knew that. So interesting.

Eventually, once I've posted enough about symolism, I want to tie it into how these symbols have essentially cast a spell on us, and kept us enchanted for ages. Magic spells was most definitely something used since antiquity, and is still being used on us on a massive scale.

Please contribute any more info on the electrons and stuff because it totally ties into this spell I'm talking about. It has created an illusion.

I like this. Thanks again Thoth, you always show me new info (just had a major epiphany!)

[thoth]

Hey Thoth,

Wow, yeah, there's a lot I don't know. Thanks for the info. I just stuck to the symbolism of it all and it's origin. I had no idea that Venus formed the shape of a pentagram in the sky. I just never knew that. So interesting.

Eventually, once I've posted enough about symolism, I want to tie it into how these symbols have essentially cast a spell on us, and kept us enchanted for ages. Magic spells was most definitely something used since antiquity, and is still being used on us on a massive scale.

Please contribute any more info on the electrons and stuff because it totally ties into this spell I'm talking about. It has created an illusion.

I like this. Thanks again Thoth, you always show me new info (just had a major epiphany!)



I have tried my hardest to understand how the symbols work in the literal, how they affect our consciousness or/and energy. I have a feww ideas about how they are doing this. I believe that we are being attacked on multidimensional level. But at the same time, they are using the symbols to try and clear the amount of negative karma coming back to them. I believe that a majority of their occult knowledge is much more powerful than we think. Give me a holla anytime you have some questions. I am not a guru or anything, I just have a head full of ideas. Whats your epiphany? Also remember about the spirals on your fingertips, crown of the head and dna. Spirals excite energy in a way. We are a storehouse of energy!

[thoth]

Where are you in Florida? I love it there, especially Miami, its beautiful down there. My uncle lives in Tampa. Well he lives in Sarasota and works in Tampa. How is your living situation there? If you want, you can pm me about it, I won't feel offended.

[tinmenace]

I have tried my hardest to understand how the symbols work in the literal, how they affect our consciousness or/and energy. I have a feww ideas about how they are doing this. I believe that we are being attacked on multidimensional level. But at the same time, they are using the symbols to try and clear the amount of negative karma coming back to them. I believe that a majority of their occult knowledge is much more powerful than we think. Give me a holla anytime you have some questions. I am not a guru or anything, I just have a head full of ideas. Whats your epiphany? Also remember about the spirals on your fingertips, crown of the head and dna. Spirals excite energy in a way. We are a storehouse of energy!


Hey Bud,

My epiphany is what you just said earlier. If these symbols are able to excite electrons in a certain way, they affect what we perceive as reality. Quantum?

Do you see?

[marguerite]

Is it possible that we can attach a new meaning to symbols in our own minds so that when we see them we cast a new spell?

Just a thought. I find this a fascinating topic.

Marguerite

Yeah, no chemtrails so far today!

[thoth]

It seems that we are looking at/participating in one big spell! It won't work without our participation, or focusing of energy. Anytime they can get vast numbers of people to concentrate in an area near a vortex point of energy point, they have created some just like the ancients, you could utilize it. Think about all of the places around the world that sit on a vortex point where thousands of people come regularly. Then, there are symbols of penises and vaginas everywhere that it is triggering a subconcious stimulation. The fact that we are so sexually repressed as a species worldwide, when we grab a coke bottle, in the form of a woman's body or penis (which ever one you like) or look at an obelisk or solar window with a penis ejaculating, it triggers a sort of build up of energy or a future response of this energy. All energy has to manifest as something 'out here' in the physical, because ALL is energy that manifest. Thoughts are energy manifested, and ALL things are made up of thoughts. Thoughts=energy! WHen a person gets into an argument with someone, and they have stored up alot of negative energy, if they do not release it it will literally kill them on the inside. You have to make someone else mad, or get it out of your body or you will be pissed off and possibly piss someone else off just by resonance. You could be so mad that you might yell or break something, cause guess what, all energy has to manifest in some way! The reason that so many homes and businesses have solar windows because of the major secret...The solar window is really a penis ejaculating, look:
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The shaft of the penis is really the doorway, with the tip being the top part of the window above the actual doorway. The "rays" of what appears to be one sun, on a higher level of occult knowledge is really sperm occuring during orgasm.

[thoth]

In fact, most doorways are penises. Look at this, they are everywhere:

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Here is a good one above. Notice the "squirt" at the tip of the penis.

[thoth]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23021#post23021
Check this out!

[thoth]

All symbols can posses the type of energy that they are designed to have. Have you ever watched the Magical Egypt series on Google videos? Its a lot to cover, but basically, all of the major temples in Egypt are made using certain numbers and patterns which carry the same energy vibration that our bodies do! Not only that, but basically the patterns used in creation to create us and other beauties of nature. Symbols trigger internal meanings, feelings, emotion, or ENERGY-in motion!

[thoth]

Notice the glass concentric rings of the "Circle Center Mall"
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[marguerite]

I live in my heart and when I look at that door/window I see the sun rising on a beautiful day. A star for me is healing and health. A triangle pointed up for me means ascension back to God, pointed down is descension into matter. So, each person can create meaning to symbols that are personal so in effect we don't have to be mind controlled... What say you?

Marguerite

[thoth]

I live in my heart and when I look at that door/window I see the sun rising on a beautiful day. A star for me is healing and health. A triangle pointed up for me means ascension back to God, pointed down is descension into matter. So, each person can create meaning to symbols that are personal so in effect we don't have to be mind controlled... What say you?

Marguerite

Definitely, but its still a penis ejaculating. If you take away all of the horizontal lines, its all your left with. I see what you mean, but you are not seeing the entire image. Trust, its a penis.

[limelady]

The fact that we are so sexually repressed as a species worldwide

Hmmm, dunno if I can go along with this thoth. Did you miss the sexual revolution of the 60'? I don't see much sexual repression in our neck of the woods, or in any other western country actually.

Sexuality and sex in general is EVERYWHERE.....its in your face and people are being actively encouraged to participate as much as poss...even the very young. Have you read a magazine designed for pre-teens and young teenage girls lately? Dolly for instance? If it weren't for the advertising, you'd swear you were reading a sex 'how to do' manual rather than a magazine. They're virtually pushing the girls out to become sexually active before they even developed beyond breast buds. Its revoltingly explicit!

I'd say its all being shoved down kids throats younger and younger......its easier to get em while they're young, then keep them occupied in the sexual fantasy world of the physical.....that'll take their minds off what's REALLY going on in this world and ensure they don't evolve a spiritual awareness.

No.....sexual repression is a thing of the past......if it ever really existed at all beyond closed doors.

[thoth]

Hmmm, dunno if I can go along with this thoth. Did you miss the sexual revolution of the 60'? I don't see much sexual repression in our neck of the woods, or in any other western country actually.

Sexuality and sex in general is EVERYWHERE.....its in your face and people are being actively encouraged to participate as much as poss...even the very young. Have you read a magazine designed for pre-teens and young teenage girls lately? Dolly for instance? If it weren't for the advertising, you'd swear you were reading a sex 'how to do' manual rather than a magazine. They're virtually pushing the girls out to become sexually active before they even developed beyond breast buds. Its revoltingly explicit!

I'd say its all being shoved down kids throats younger and younger......its easier to get em while they're young, then keep them occupied in the sexual fantasy world of the physical.....that'll take their minds off what's REALLY going on in this world and ensure they don't evolve a spiritual awareness.

No.....sexual repression is a thing of the past......if it ever really existed at all beyond closed doors.



I will have to disagree with you. Maybe its becuase of where I live or our age group. Trust me, that thing that happened in the 70s in long gone. I go to college with thousands of sexually repressed people. Did you forget that that time period in history was repressed? How many important people in history during the 60s and 70s were killed? Some of the most important in history. King Jr., X, Kennedys, and more. Then many of the drugs that enabled much of this revolutionary mode of thinking were suppressed. I am sorry, but I have to totally disagree with you now that I really think about it. Sex in todays day and age is like a game. People are so repressed in school its ridiculous. People won't have sex with someone, even if they want to if they feel that in some way its not politically correct or something my friends won't accept. Anytime you need outside approval to have sex with someone, its reppression I see it everyday.The fact that its in our faces and we consciously are not aware is were the trauma comes into play. Religion has us suppressed sexually, society and politics. We are being traumatized. This is all apart of their 'magic' and much of what they are doing won't work with this misuse of sexual energy. Not to be like that, but in my head, I know what I am talking about, and thats all that counts these days. That is not an attack, but I feel that right now, I am dead on on with most info. Maybe you know something I dont, maybe I do. Who is too say? At this point, I am going with what I know. Why so many obelisks? I see that you are saying that they are making us more sexual, in a way. But they turn right back around and suppress it. This causes trauma in any way you look at it.

[thoth]

As a matter of fact, its so sexually suppressed in other parts of the world, you have to place a cap on how many children you can even have, and you can be fined for have too many. Makes you not wanna have sex huh? Most people who I talked to who are married don't have sex but like once a month or something like that, and every study I have seen shows that more and more married people are having sex less and less. Is this not reppression? Too much energy going into work, and not enough to left over to have sex! There are anamolies in every instance, but to my knowledge, overall and the people that I interact with and talked to, its about the same. Kids cannot even understand sex until their parents get enough balls to talk to them about it, and that could go on until the kid asks an adult about it. So now, you are walking around with a boner, and your parents are not even talking to you about it until they feel comfortable enough. Reppression. Maybe you live in California or somewhere outside the u.s. where things are more liberal. But In-DIANA, the game plan is going just nicely! My intuition has brought me pretty far on this, I will have to stick with my guns. I do apologize if I come off like an ass, I am pretty confident about this info. My apologies, my intentions are never to offend anyone!

[limelady]

Wow!

You ought to come and live here......its a sexual free-for all. I see NO evidence at all of the oppression you speak of.....nor did I see it in New Zealand where I lived for most of my life.

People in these parts are serial bed-hoppers - dead opposite to what you have described! I know people living in London who say the same thing.

[thoth]

Wow!

You ought to come and live here......its a sexual free-for all. I see NO evidence at all of the oppression you speak of.....nor did I see it in New Zealand where I lived for most of my life.

People in these parts are serial bed-hoppers - dead opposite to what you have described! I know people living in London who say the same thing.

Ah, i get it now, you live outside the states. It sucks over here at times. I am starting to think that the states are one of the most sexually reppressed places in the world. Seems like a nice liberal free thinking kind of place. I know people who have went to Aussie and loved it. I would love to visit both places one day. But yeah, people over here are liking walking neurotic zombies, not even caring to look into it. Its fucking sad.

[phoenixchilde]

Ah, i get it now, you live outside the states. It sucks over here at times. I am starting to think that the states are one of the most sexually reppressed places in the world. Seems like a nice liberal free thinking kind of place. I know people who have went to Aussie and loved it. I would love to visit both places one day. But yeah, people over here are liking walking neurotic zombies, not even caring to look into it. Its fucking sad.

It's not just the US Thoth, Canada's almost as bad. North American society is very sexually immature compared to the rest of the world.

[tinmenace]

Right. People teach their children that sex is bad just in the hopes that they'll abstain from it. Funny enough, they also refuse to put their kids on birth control once they suspect their daughters have become sexually active, because they'd rather have them abstain from sex. They think that by preventing unwanted pregnancies with birth control, they're encouraging sex. It's quite a ridiculous thought pattern really, because the parent has missed a perfect opportunity to talk about sex and it's affect on people, the possible risks, etc. Nope, just avoid the subject and insist that they don't do it. Yeah, try tell a teen what to do...doesn't work to well, right?

The other thing I've noticed is that parents disallow their kids to go to museums where there might be art of the naked human form. So, also teaching them that their naked bodies are something to be ashamed of. How ridiculous. It's such a shame how people mess with children's heads.

[marguerite]

What you focus on is what you give power to. This forum is giving tons of power to the darkness.

I am moving on to an alternate reality and focusing on love.

Have a nice life.

Marguerite

[thoth]

What you focus on is what you give power to. This forum is giving tons of power to the darkness.

I am moving on to an alternate reality and focusing on love.

Have a nice life.

Marguerite

Why do you say this?

[tinmenace]

What you focus on is what you give power to. This forum is giving tons of power to the darkness.

I am moving on to an alternate reality and focusing on love.

Have a nice life.

Marguerite

I'm sorry you missed the point of the work that Thoth and I have posted. Our mutual wish is to expose to the world, how symbols are being used against our psyche in an ongoing effort to oppress us.

Yes, focusing on loving thoughts is a great idea, and changing your reality for yourself is lovely, but our wish is to help others have a better reality also, and the key to the whole thing is to break the spell.


Have a nice life.

A little snippy and completely contradicts your "loving reality" or supposed loving attitude, wouldn't you say?

[ho1ogram]

If we do this, wait for the morning star to appear again 584 days later (the synodic orbital time of Venus) and mark its position in the zodiac, and then repeat this process until we have five positions of Venus as the morning star, we will find that exactly eight years plus one day have passed. If we then draw a line from the first point marked to the second point marked, then to the third, and so on, we end up with a pentagram.

The following lines are taken from Zehren's An Annotated Bibliography: "It was only the planet Venus that possessed the five-pointed star sign. Not one of the innumerable stars above us can by its orbit recreate this sign."

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/29/2914.html
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I never knew that, it's amazing. One of Venus' lovers was Mars, the God of war, I wonder if that is why the pentagram is used on military machines. They're making love to Mars everytime they point their missile and shoot!!! :D

"The space of time between the first appearance of the planet Venus and its reappearance at the same place is exactly 1,460 days, i.e., four solar years, which was the calendar used in antiquity by the Greeks to measure the Olympiades (which is also the time interval between the modern Olympic Games).

I'm blown away. Is this info from your Dictionary of Symbols?

From this comes the whore and the madonna complex and the worship of the virgin vulva which, instead of being a symbol for lecherous intimacy and pleasure, has been turned into a symbol for Jesus, for torture, for the degradation of one human by another.

Never knew this either. I wass dragged to church all the time as a kid, no wonder I was a little shit, subjected to all this subliminal crap while my conscious mind was destracted by violent images of a bloke being tortured on a cross while the priest talked of love and acceptance. What a mind screw! It's psychological torture. Kneeling in front of a wine/blood drinking priest and eating bread/flesh.

What you focus on is what you give power to. This forum is giving tons of power to the darkness.

I am moving on to an alternate reality and focusing on love.

Have a nice life.

Marguerite

I think you are seeing your own fears reflected back at yourself. This is just information, tinmenace and thoth are showing us the origins of the symbols that are all around us today. Have a look at where they are used and then look at the state of the world. This is the language of symbols that are used by the people in power to blind and bewitch the population. Haven't you ever wondered why people are so blind to what is going on in the world? and why they are so focused on themselves and uncariing of other people's plight? They are under a spell. You can't break the spell if you don't realise you are under one. Just by knowing 'their' language you break the spell.

People are buying feel good books and imagining white light to protect themselves when all they have to do is see the imagery around them for what it is and then it ceases to have an affect on them. If the mind is conscious of something then that something can't be used on the subconcious mind. Information has to be brought into the light so people can see every facet of it.

Love
h :)

[tinmenace]

I never knew that, it's amazing. One of Venus' lovers was Mars, the God of war, I wonder if that is why the pentagram is used on military machines. They're making love to Mars everytime they point their missile and shoot!!! :D


I'm blown away. Is this info from your Dictionary of Symbols?


Never knew this either. I wass dragged to church all the time as a kid, no wonder I was a little shit, subjected to all this subliminal crap while my conscious mind was destracted by violent images of a bloke being tortured on a cross while the priest talked of love and acceptance. What a mind screw! It's psychological torture. Kneeling in front of a wine/blood drinking priest and eating bread/flesh.


I think you are seeing your own fears reflected back at yourself. This is just information, tinmenace and thoth are showing us the origins of the symbols that are all around us today. Have a look at where they are used and then look at the state of the world. This is the language of symbols that are used by the people in power to blind and bewitch the population. Haven't you ever wondered why people are so blind to what is going on in the world? and why they are so focused on themselves and uncariing of other people's plight? They are under a spell. You can't break the spell if you don't realise you are under one. Just by knowing 'their' language you break the spell.

People are buying feel good books and imagining white light to protect themselves when all they have to do is see the imagery around them for what it is and then it ceases to have an affect on them. If the mind is conscious of something then that something can't be used on the subconcious mind. Information has to be brought into the light so people can see every facet of it.

Love
h :)

I know!!! I didn't know that about Venus either!! I was astounded! Yes, it's from this book called Dictionary of Symbols by Carl G. Liungman. I bought it on Ebay.

Your last paragraph there reflects EXACTLY what I'm thinking. They have used these symbols that often are quite invisible but right in our faces at the same time, often only picked up by the subconscious mind. (have you seen Thoth's work at this thread?) (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2382) I am 100% convinced that they have managed to bewitch us with their spells, and that is how they have so many under their spell. These people simply won't believe what's in front of them no matter how much evidence there is. It's had me thinking about it for some time....because how can this be?? When presented with irrefutable evidence, how can a logical person still resist? It had me stumped!

I have done some reading on Quantum (fascinating but I just don't have the aptitude for it), and I have found some interesting information that will support my theory. In particular the theory that consciousness causes the collapse of the wavefunction in quantum mechanics. Wow! The implications are massive! Consciousness is suppressed, clearly, but how? We already know the why. Other than chemically altered food, and poisoned water, I really think that there is a spell and that CONSCIOUSNESS can collapse their entire system.

Also, my limited research on Quantum, as I understand it, says that we can apply the principles to better understand macroscopic quantum systems such as superconductors and superfluids.

Superfluids have been used to TRAP AND SLOW the speed of light from 3,00,000,000 meters per second to 17 meters per second. What does this mean?

Also, there is something known as the Photoelectric effect and has led to better understanding of the nature of quantum light (photons). I don't remember it all now, but it says that light (sunlight for example) on polished metals will gain positive charge as electrons are emitted causing wavelengths which ionize the atmosphere. I think they call this Radiant Energy. Now, I'm very challenged when it comes to this kind of stuff, but this is important because I think all this plays a part in what we call reality. What if these so-called radio towers are actually transmitting something other than radiowaves? It says that atoms can become waves. Isn't this what they're transmitting from these towers? I know an atom is representative of a so-called solid, but I'm certain there is so much we don't know.

What we see with our human eyes is just one frequency of light. They are able to manipulate light with superfluids. What does this mean about what we think we're seeing?

This was quoted from the website from which I was doing my research:

Unsolved problems in physics: In the correspondence limit of quantum mechanics: Is there a preferred interpretation of quantum mechanics? How does the QUANTUM DESCRIPTION OF REALITY, which includes elements such as the SUPERPOSITION of states and WAVEFUNCTION COLLAPSE, give rise to the REALITY WE PERCEIVE?

I'm convinced that massive obelisks and other giant buildings are actually transmitters for what we call our reality.

[thoth]

Yea, I think that you are right on here. You have to remember one thing, all things are light! Particles are nothing more than particles of light slowed down. SO really, everything is light! You, a rock, whatever. Just light moving at different speeds and different energetic frequencies. Have you ever seen What the Bleep Do We Know? You should check that out in the Matrix/Nature of Reality Section. Also check out the double slit experiment. Yes, I think that all of the symbolism reinforces 3 dimensional physicality. The more we think and engage completely in the 3 dimensions, thats the reality we will create. I have to go to class later, around 12:30, so I am about to take a nap, when I wake up I will write some more on this subject. We are definitely on the right path.

[tinmenace]

Right! I've seen the double slit experiment, and I'll check out the other one a bit later.

I'm glad you don't think I'm insane here. I'm totally convinced that that with all the symbols and the manipulation of light (after all we are only seeing what there is to see on this one frequency) they have us under a spell. How else can some people, living in exactly the same city/neighborhood/school/job be experiencing a different reality?

I totally think that consciousness is the key to breaking this spell (breaking the wave formation).

Do you think that the radio towers, for example, have something to do with spreading and maintaining this spell? The symbols (erections for example) are talking to our subconscious mind, and the waves are locking us into it.

[thoth]

Right! I've seen the double slit experiment, and I'll check out the other one a bit later.

I'm glad you don't think I'm insane here. I'm totally convinced that that with all the symbols and the manipulation of light (after all we are only seeing what there is to see on this one frequency) they have us under a spell. How else can some people, living in exactly the same city/neighborhood/school/job be experiencing a different reality?

I totally think that consciousness is the key to breaking this spell (breaking the wave formation).

Do you think that the radio towers, for example, have something to do with spreading and maintaining this spell? The symbols (erections for example) are talking to our subconscious mind, and the waves are locking us into it.


Yes! There was this Humming phenomena a while back all over the state. First it was the Bloomington 'Hum', then the Kokomo 'Hum', then the Terre Haute hum. They were running HAARP tests to see how they could affect massive populations. Its simple, the towers can transmit and recieve radio waves. I am sure they are doing this. You ever saw THEY LIVE? Its similar to the "Satellite Dish" on top of the news tower. It sent a signal to other satellite dishes that were constantly spinning around emitting a voice saying "sleep, sleep". I am sure of it. But always remember, we are creating it also. The thing is, we all have many choices of possiblities. Flying, telepathy, all of it. You have many possibilities or choices, ie. the wave function. Imagine wave functions as different possibilities orchoices that you can make, basically parallel dimensions. Since people are convinced that 3 dimensional reality is all that exists, we choose it, and we collapse the wave function on only one possibility, instead of infinite ones! Everyday we continue the same cycles, putting more energy into this reality is all that exists, so this is what we get! Imagine the whole world focusing their mental energy on this is all there is, and thats whats happening. The ELF waves just reinforce this.
!

[ho1ogram]

Those 2000 years have been characterized by the conflict between high but often stupid ideals and a hateful practice, the conflict between the two fish bound together and forever trying to swim in different directions, by the sign of Jesus - the fish (or Pisces).

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/1107.gif


The conflicting oppositions.

From this comes the whore and the madonna complex and the worship of the virgin vulva which, instead of being a symbol for lecherous intimacy and pleasure, has been turned into a symbol for Jesus, for torture, for the degradation of one human by another.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/4408.gif

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/mandorla.jpg

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/44/4411.html

This shape is known as the MANDORLA and is massively prevalent in Christian art. Drawn sideways, it was seen in Egyptian art (eye of Horus).

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/the-eye-of-horus.jpg


Horus was the son of Isis (see how the same symbol represents both sons/suns - Jesus and Horus)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/08.09IsisHorus.jpg



Here's some more that may interest you guys/gals...
Something to think about over Easter.
From the Woman's Dictionary of Symbols and Sacred Objects by Barbara G. Walker:
Vessica Piscis
"Vessel of the Fish," vesica piscis, was a worldwide ancient synonym for the yoni or vulva. In religious symbolism it stood for the feminine creative force, the Mother-spirit that gave birth to the world and the gods. In prepatriarchal philosophy the general explanation for sexual activity was that spiritual nourishment for males was inherent in the act of "plugging in" to this female power, resulting not only in a moment or two of godlike bliss, but also in an essential contact with the mysterious magic inside a woman's body that could actually produce life.

The ancients insisted that women's sexual secretions smelled like fish, which is why the sign of the yoni came to be called vesica piscis. One of the Hindu titles of the Great Goddess was "a virgin named Fishy Smell, whose real name was Truth." Particularly in her Love-goddess aspect, the ancient Mother was associated with fish, seashells, seawater, salt, ships and fishermen. She often appeared in mermaid form with a fish tail, or even two fish tails like the medieval Siren. In her honour, fish were eaten on Friday, which was her official day, named after Freya, her Scandanavian incarnation. (Latins called it the Day of Venus) Thus it was - and in some areas still is - believed that fish are aphrodisiac food.

The vesica piscis passed into medieval Christian art as a frame for holy figures (see Mandorla), however incongruous this might have seemed in the light of its older connotations. Renaisannce painters often showed the "cloud" that took Jesus up to heaven in the form of a vessica piscis, which appeared to be swallowing him headfirst, so that sometimes only his dangling legs remain visible.


So this Friday, populations will be unwittingly worshipping Venus. They will continue to worship her when they consciously eat fish on Friday's over lent, in deference to their silly superstition, the Cult of the Sun, Christianity.

As they worship her they will be reinforcing the 3rd dimension matrix that traps them, as the Illuminati hierarchy who know what these festivals are really about channel the etheric energy of the unconscious masses to build and reinforce the matrix.

In prepatriarchal philosophy the general explanation for sexual activity was that spiritual nourishment for males was inherent in the act of "plugging in" to this female power, resulting not only in a moment or two of godlike bliss, but also in an essential contact with the mysterious magic inside a woman's body that could actually produce life.
And when your thought process are dominated by Illuminati bullshit, they use this 'mysterious magic' to build the matrix. People think sex can only produce one kind of life - children. But it also creates another, an etheric energy field that the Illuminati exploit from the sleeping masses. Easter festival of Venus/Organised Religion/distorted and repressed sexuality....

We are the creators, when will people realise this? For a lot of people, through organised religion, sex has been transformed from something fun and creative and holy to something full of anxiety, guilt, power, oppression, shame, etc.

Happy Easter everyone :)

One of the Hindu titles of the Great Goddess was "a virgin named Fishy Smell, whose real name was Truth."

Funny!!! :D Now we know why when 'they' say they are telling the truth, something smells fishy!

[tinmenace]

WOW! Unbelievable! Yes! I wonder how many people know the origins of their rituals??!

Fantastic post! Thank you.

[tinmenace]

I've really been thinking a lot about what I've discussed specifically with Thoth and Ho1ogram...about using magic spells to manipulate what we perceive as our reality. Like I said elsewhere, I had a major epiphany where this idea has just made THE most perfect sense.

So, I've been snooping around a little bit...followed a lead that Thoth gave me on Stephen Schroeder concerning the In-DIANA thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2172&page=8). I came across a picture of Baphomet which I've seen many times before...it's this one:

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/baphomet.gif

And, for the first time ever, I noticed the torch burning on top of his head! This is a much-used Illuminati symbol, and so I looked a little more closely to see what else I could see. The thought struck me that I knew little or nothing about this strange looking creature. Dan Brown mentioned it in his book The Da Vinci Code, (which I need to read again to see if I interpret it differently now). And, also the statue of George Washington, which was supposed to be a representation of Zeus with his naked top half seemingly with the very same pose(why would they do that, you ask!?).

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/washington.jpg

I noticed the Staff of Mercurius in Baphomet's groin area...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/mercurius.gif

Similar to the Caduceus, which is the symbol of commerce and not of medicine as so often misinterpreted...

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/caduceus.gif

The proper emblem to represent medicine/physicians is the Staff of Aesculape / Asclepius / Asklepios

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/onesnake.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/ama.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/who.jpg

The last one being the flag of the World Health Organization

So, anyway, I'm getting sidetracked here, I looked up Baphomet and found that it's true origin is not certain, but there seems to be some kind of Knights Templar connection. Further down I read about a character named Eliphas Levi, and apparently he wrote a book called Dogme et Rituel de la Haute Magie (Dogma and Ritual of High Magic), and in this book appears this rendition of Baphomet. He was a student of the occult an apparently greatly influenced Aleister Crowley who is best known for his association with the Ordo Templi Orientis (http://oto-usa.org/) and also Thelema (http://www.thelema.org/).

But!...and now I'm getting to my point...in Eliphas Levi - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, the information on Levi says that he identified three fundamental principles of magic, and they were:

That the material universe is only a small part of total reality, which includes many other planes and modes of consciousness. Full knowledge and full power in the universe are only attainable through awareness of these other aspects of reality. One of the most important of these levels or aspects of reality is the "astral light", a cosmic fluid which may be molded by will into physical forms.


That human willpower is a real force, capable of achieving absolutely anything, from the mundane to the miraculous.


That the human being is a microcosm, a miniature of the macrocosmic universe, and the two are fundamentally linked. Causes set in motion on one level may equally have effects on another.


Isn't this EXACTLY what we were talking about, Thoth, Ho1ogram? You know...with the quantum, and the magical spells, and that consciousness can break the wavefunction...and that they are manipulating light?

Whatcha think?

[thoth]

Yes, its very dead on. Get into some quantum physics. I suggest you watch, What the Bleep, Down the Rabbit hole and also watch the interviews on the other sides of the disc. Read some Crowley also.

[tinmenace]

Some more stuff, but I posted it on the Obelisk thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26546&postcount=44)

[ho1ogram]

g'day ace,

wow, those three fundamental principles of magic are spot on. I especially like this one..
That human willpower is a real force, capable of achieving absolutely anything, from the mundane to the miraculous.
I am now focusing on the miraculous instead of the mundane.. so my life may be filled with miracles.

Thanks for the recent threads ace and thoth, they have really opened some windows for me to the workings of the miraculous and why we often get stuck in the mundane.

I'm still absorbing everything from the past week or two.
cheers

[tinmenace]

Yay! Yes it's incredible!

[seamus]

This etheric energy that is released/transposed in sex is absorbed and used by the body for healing and maintenance. In the Old Testament (and the new if you read it right) sex was forbidden for 3 days before any major JHVH-ordained festival, so the bastard could harvest all that energy for himself. If someone were to have sex the night before a festival knowingly, and still attend, he would be guilty unto DEATH. How fucked-up is that?

Because if Jehovah can't USE you, you had better not show up. He might just go Uzzah on your ass!

s

[tinmenace]

...sex was forbidden for 3 days before any major JHVH-ordained festival...

Wow! I never knew that. Isn't it interesting that we see the same rules applied to athletes today? Isn't there a standing rule for Olympians about abstaining from sex before the games? I'll have to look into it, but I know I've heard about this before. Thanks for the input....and by the way....

He might just go Uzzah on your ass!

LMFAO!!!! Too funny!

[phoenixchilde]

Wow! I never knew that. Isn't it interesting that we see the same rules applied to athletes today? Isn't there a standing rule for Olympians about abstaining from sex before the games? I'll have to look into it, but I know I've heard about this before.

You know what, I don't completely disagree with that rule for athletes. I do feel that I perform better athletically if I haven't had sex for a few hours beforehand as opposed to right after sex.

[rainmaker]

tinmenace, the idea of manipulating light triggered a notion I have had just recently again.

If Lucifer is "the light bringer" this fits in.

Cosmic consciousness is NOT light. Light is only one manifestation of that.
If Lucifer is 'the fallen angel" that also makes sense - he chose to be the God of Light, to create his own domain.

What we as humans are awakening to is bringing that cosmic consciousness into this Luciferian domain of light. (Check out the "Is God Hacking Into The Matrix" thread)

Some of us are as living orgonite, doing exactly that, when we have our moments. Others of us are not, as yet, ready to do this.

Channeling "light" through our "chakras" is an idea of how deep the programming goes. Cosmic consciousness is accessed from the inside out, and in every cell, fractally, at once. The dna is a multi-dimensional crystalline transmitter which has been programmed with limitations - but whose programs we can change (Who programs the crystals we use for protection or to perform tasks - WE DO, with our INTENT)


Eh, if I explain it further than that I'll get caight up in words and symbolism.

[tinmenace]

tinmenace, the idea of manipulating light triggered a notion I have had just recently again.

If Lucifer is "the light bringer" this fits in.

Cosmic consciousness is NOT light. Light is only one manifestation of that.
If Lucifer is 'the fallen angel" that also makes sense - he chose to be the God of Light, to create his own domain.

What we as humans are awakening to is bringing that cosmic consciousness into this Luciferian domain of light. (Check out the "Is God Hacking Into The Matrix" thread)

Some of us are as living orgonite, doing exactly that, when we have our moments. Others of us are not, as yet, ready to do this.

Channeling "light" through our "chakras" is an idea of how deep the programming goes. Cosmic consciousness is accessed from the inside out, and in every cell, fractally, at once. The dna is a multi-dimensional crystalline transmitter which has been programmed with limitations - but whose programs we can change (Who programs the crystals we use for protection or to perform tasks - WE DO, with our INTENT)


Eh, if I explain it further than that I'll get caight up in words and symbolism.



Right! It's all got to do with light and the manipulation thereof....hence the intense sun worship.

I'm got some books from the library on this topic...also quantum and magick because I'm certain that we are under one big spell....completely bewitched...I guess some would call it the matrix.

[tinmenace]

Thanks Sweetie! :)

[phoenix1]

Great post Tin I have two books on symbolism
Both by R.A Schwaller de Lubicz... whose work was continued after his departure from this plant by John Anthony West.

The books are called

Symbol and the Symbolic: Ancient Egypt, Science and the Evolution of Consciousness

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/5156GE2KM6L._SS500_.jpg

the other is called Esoterism and Symbol
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/71YA3PAG6CL._SS500_.gif

Egyptian really, but applicable to all Symbol in the way that a Symbol exists in more than one area , ie the Cerebral, and the innate. I am still reading the first one and its fascinating stuff. High genuine Art.

A lot of people when they see Symolism, don't see (as you know) it also is a positive thing, when handled correctly , many people see a Symbol and scream ARGGG Freemasonry !!!!LOL, but The Art and The Craft has been here since The Dawn.

Symbolism at its purest level is totally dependant on the "worker" and the intent.

The coin has two sides good intent or bad intent. Ther are the two paths , the High Path, and The Worldly path (The Low one)which most Masons alighn too.

The subversive use of which I detest. But when the intent is serving the good, then that's the purest of the two intents.

Some may see this post and say "That bloody Phoenix is a freemason" LOL crucify him now!!! LOL but they will be wrong because I am not.And that can be their choice as I respect there choice on that.

In The Old Sacred Mystical Schools, was much wisdom, much of which IS carried into Freemasonry .

The bad ritual is above 33 degrees. (There are more)

Manly P Hall, I see no words of i'll in his google vids at all, considered Freemasonrys finest Sage, he was a truly wise man. What he may have got into behind the shrouds I don't know. But from what ive seen of him , I like what he says.

Mankind has "Been effectivly cut off" from "seeing" the practicallities in the Sybmolic, and what the various symbols denote.

A pictorial empowered Symbol is exactly that. You can instill and use Symbol with various aspect and intent.

Its a cool thread this Tin... Cool indeed (eta on the vids Wednesday)

:) :) :D :D ;)

[tinmenace]

Egyptian really, but applicable to all Symbol in the way that a Symbol exists in more than one area , ie the Cerebral, and the innate. I am still reading the first one and its fascinating stuff. High genuine Art.

A lot of people when they see Symolism, don't see (as you know) it also is a positive thing, when handled correctly , many people see a Symbol and scream ARGGG Freemasonry !!!!LOL, but The Art and The Craft has been here since The Dawn.

Symbolism at its purest level is totally dependant on the "worker" and the intent.

The coin has two sides good intent or bad intent. Ther are the two paths , the High Path, and The Worldly path (The Low one)which most Masons alighn too.

The subversive use of which I detest. But when the intent is serving the good, then that's the purest of the two intents.

Some may see this post and say "That bloody Phoenix is a freemason" LOL crucify him now!!! LOL but they will be wrong because I am not.And that can be their choice as I respect there choice on that.

In The Old Sacred Mystical Schools, was much wisdom, much of which IS carried into Freemasonry .

The bad ritual is above 33 degrees. (There are more)

Manly P Hall, I see no words of i'll in his google vids at all, considered Freemasonrys finest Sage, he was a truly wise man. What he may have got into behind the shrouds I don't know. But from what ive seen of him , I like what he says.

Mankind has "Been effectivly cut off" from "seeing" the practicallities in the Sybmolic, and what the various symbols denote.

A pictorial empowered Symbol is exactly that. You can instill and use Symbol with various aspect and intent.

Its a cool thread this Tin... Cool indeed (eta on the vids Wednesday)

:) :) :D :D ;)


That's right my friend, it all depends on the "worker" and the intent. Absolutely right. And here's the thing...it's our birthright to tap into these energies. What's not right is that the Freemasons and their predecessors, as well as other secret societies, have sucked this information out of the general population over thousands of years, thus denying us our right to this knowledge.

They've kept it for themselves and have used it against us to keep us weak.

But not for very much longer. Their house of cards is going to come crashing down. The power of their wicked spells is all used up....time for a serious reality check.

Thanks again for those DVD's, A. I can't wait to see them. :)

[phoenix1]

That's right my friend, it all depends on the "worker" and the intent. Absolutely right. And here's the thing...it's our birthright to tap into these energies. What's not right is that the Freemasons and their predecessors, as well as other secret societies, have sucked this information out of the general population over thousands of years, thus denying us our right to this knowledge.

They've kept it for themselves and have used it against us to keep us weak.

But not for very much longer. Their house of cards is going to come crashing down. The power of their wicked spells is all used up....time for a serious reality check.

Thanks again for those DVD's, A. I can't wait to see them. :)

I agree entirely Friend , You have it down cold, they ARE sublimially using this control on the unwary, the vast majotity are ignorant of Symbol and the usage of, which is why its "branded" and called "occultist" the word "occult means simply "Hidden"

Occultism is not bad by deffinition at all, just the bad intent, simple innit really

In 1984 I was at Stonehenge, at The Battle of The Beanfield, with the British Police "Tooled up to the Max" preventing peacfull people from getting to Stonehenge, it was a bloody massacre, pregnant women bieng dragged through smashed bus windows , and police smashing heads open with Truncheons, it was hell. They didn't want us to access the Stones to celebrate the Summer Solstice period.

They want to totally sever us from our Birthright Connections to the Earthgrid,which is the reason I posted this thread about Firing The EarthGrid energy system back into gear.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1694

IAAIA sees good vibrations in the date of the firing, so nearer to the time shown in the thread there, I reckon it should get some focus from ALL posters here.

They hate us to be Symbol aware thhis is a good video by Michael Tsarion (like him or leave him) personally I like a lot of Tsarions stuff and am not affraid to say so either LOL.

Here it is Tin and if ya want DVD of it all you need to do is PM me and i'll do it straight out np.K

These are The Google links to Michael Tsarions:

The Subversive Use of Sacred Symbolism in the Media: In order of parts (I can easy get them all on Disc Tin also OK)

1 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8875751284579583762

2 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-4306735945697288438

3 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2233997338138922977

4 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=2392398489053775506

5 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8629717732608750704

6 http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=219076393586369255


These are very good and goes into detail about how they use the Sacred Geometric Symbolism against us, and to control us. These are a MUST see for anyone who wants to understand their methodology, and in your face trickery and guile, I my humble oppinion

http://img.youtube.com/vi/hCWdXJinoYo/2.jpg


Anyhow this thread is seriously on it.:) :) ;) :D

[ho1ogram]

FYI:
Coxeter lectured about ``the beauteous properties of triangles," about circles and spheres, and about the Platonic solids: the tetrahedron, cube, octahedron, icosahedron, and dodecahedron. According to a recent cosmological hypothesis (and a similar theory put forth by Plato) the dodecahedron is a potential model for the shape of the universe-bound by 12 walls, each the shape of a pentagon.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2006/09/10/the_man_who_saved_geometry/

http://www.celestialclock.com/SG_files/image004.jpg

[ho1ogram]

http://www.enterprisemission.com/images/hyper/s_cyd-geom.jpg
http://www.enterprisemission.com/hyper1.html

The pentagram pops up all over the place.

[chattanova]

Sawastika shaped building at Coronado Naval base (San Diego)!

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/8181/220705buildingik0.jpg

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2043/coronado2bv5.jpg

[chattanova]

The Hampton Court area in England.

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5852/hamptonctmu4.jpg

[chattanova]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9602/archjv3.jpg

The Arch is another powerful symbol to the Illuminati. Take for example the Grand Royal Arch of Freemasonry. Part of the symbol represents the point at the top which bears the pressure for the whole structure below and thusly symbolises hierarchical power.

You will often find many arches with an enlarged stone (called a 'key-stone') for this symbol to be more visually obvious.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6280/arch2as3.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7246/arch4ws9.jpg

[chattanova]

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6353/owljh6.gif

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6990/owl0capitolowlfp5.jpg

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/4418/owlbgroveqt0.jpg

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1439/owlpresslk2.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519//owlonthedollarzg9.jpg

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/5350/owlcapwb5.gif

[chattanova]

GEORGE W. BUSH AND THE SEAL OF ATLANTIS

On August 30, 2004 the GOP convention convened in New York City. President George
W. Bush accepted the Republican nomination for a second term with a lofty speech
casting his reelection as crucial to the spread of democracy across the world and to
the security of Americans at home.


The choice of the city was symbolic after 9/11. The choice of the president’s stage
was symbolic too. In preparation for the president’s speech the throng of supporters
on the convention floor was parted. The sea of people surrounded a red carpet ‘c’.
Inside the ‘c’ was a platform formed of concentric rings. Painted upon its flat surface
was the Seal of the President of the United States. A long blue plank extended
from the concentric rings.


Suddenly, George W. Bush appeared. He strutted to the podium in the middle of the
Great Seal and began his speech. It was a heckuva sight. Bizarre even. Masterful
stagecraft courtesy of the President’s advisors. Little did any one notice that when
the president gave his speech he was standing in the Seal of Atlantis combined
with the early Christian symbol of the Messiah.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/159/atlant2bushinwormhole1pf7.jpg
George W. Bush parts the red ‘C.

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9812/atlantislogo1qk1.jpghttp://img515.imageshack.us/img515/159/atlant2bushinwormhole1pf7.jpg
The Seal of Atlantis (left). Bush’s platform. Expressing the power of his might
in the emblem of Atlantis.

[tinmenace]

Excellent contribution! Thank you!

[chattanova]

Reptilian eye's (China)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2017/china2ml8.jpg

http://img127.imageshack.us/img127/3599/chinese2ed8.jpg

[chattanova]

Some years ago there was an ''expert'' talking about symbols in an interview in a norwegian newspaper, and he said that the original meaning of the pentagram is perfect creature (or human) and has nothing to do with satanism....

..anyway its been captured by the satanists just like the nazis have captured the 'Sawastika'.

[pierre_jean]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6156/1107uh3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

This symbol pointed out something to me. I found : It is the symbol of extra terrestrial ones of Ummo which, according to letters sent by them (if it's not a hoax), revealed this logo :

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4643/ummof05ghj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Planetary objects proposed in religion, astrology, ufology and pseudoscience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[tinmenace]

Some years ago there was an ''expert'' talking about symbols in an interview in a norwegian newspaper, and he said that the original meaning of the pentagram is perfect creature (or human) and has nothing to do with satanism....

..anyway its been captured by the satanists just like the nazis have captured the 'Sawastika'.

That's right, the pentagram means nothing without intent. It's the INTENT of the person using the pentagram that grants it its meaning. We've just been brainwashed to believe that its only meaning is evil. Every time there is a news story about Satanism, they flash the pentagram. Every time there is a movie with some kind of demonic theme, they flash the pentagram. So, that's the only mainstream exposure we're given, unless we dig a little deeper for true understanding.

[tinmenace]

This symbol pointed out something to me. I found : It is the symbol of extra terrestrial ones of Ummo which, according to letters sent by them (if it's not a hoax), revealed this logo :



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummo

That is incredible. Thanks for posting it. I never knew anything about Ummo. Never even heard of it. I'm very interested to know more. Do you know were we could find scanned images of the letters?

Makes me think about the Voynich Manuscripts. I have them posted here. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1488) I have a few very large images in the thread, so be ready for a massive download, but I left them that big so that people can get a GOOD LOOK at them. Just like Ummo, the author(s) is unknown and the language also. Your thoughts?

[edit]

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6156/1107uh3.gif (http://imageshack.us)

This symbol pointed out something to me. I found : It is the symbol of extra terrestrial ones of Ummo which, according to letters sent by them (if it's not a hoax), revealed this logo :

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/4643/ummof05ghj4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ummo
Shcha or Shta (Щ, щ) is a letter of the Cyrillic alphabet, representing the consonant /ɕː/ or /ɕʨ/ in Russian, /ʃʧ/ or /ɕʨ/ in Ukrainian, and the consonant cluster /ʃt/ in Bulgarian. Originally, this letter was a ligature of sha and te (Ш + Т = Щ), with the descender in the middle of the sha, and is descended from the Glagolitic letter Shta: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/GlagolitsaShta.gif.
This letter is the most troublesome for romanization.
Shcha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sha (Ш, ш) is the last letter of the Cyrillic alphabet
Sha is one of the most typical letters of the Cyrillic alphabet.

Sha has its earliest origins in Hebrew Shin (ש), and is linked closely to Shin's Greek equivalent, Sigma (Σ, σ).

There is a possibility that Sha was taken from the Coptic alphabet, which was the same as the Greek alphabet but had a few letters added at the end, including one called "shai" which somewhat resembles both sha and shcha in appearance.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sha"


Sha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Zhe (Ж, ж) is the letter of Cyrillic alphabet
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/be/Cyrillic_letter_Zhe.pngIt is also found in most non-Slavic languages written in the Cyrillic script, representing either /ʒ/, /ʐ/, or /dʒ/. In the old Cyrillic alphabet, zhe was the seventh letter. Its name was живѣте (zhivěte, 'live' imp.), and it did not have a numerical value.

It is not known how the character for zhe was derived. No similar letter exists in Greek, Latin or any other alphabet of the time, though there is some graphic similarity with its Glagolitic counterpart zhivete Ⰶ (Image: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b1/GlagolitsaZhivete.gif) which represents the same sound. However, the origin of zhivete, like that of most Glagolitic letters, is unclear. One possibility is that it was formed from two connecting letters shin ש, the bottom one inverted. Sha ш, which represents the unvoiced counterpart of zhe, is one of several Cyrillic letters that derive directly from Hebrew letters.
The closest Polish counterpart is ż.

Zhe is one of the first letters learned by children who learn to write in Slavic languages, because it looks quite like a young frog floating in a pond, and in these languages the word meaning "frog" or "toad" is written "жаба".


ж-looking frog
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/1e/Frog-Zhe.jpg/100px-Frog-Zhe.jpg

Zhe can also be used in Leet speak in place of the letter x. The rap group Kris Kross has a logo of two k's placed back-to-back similar to zhe.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%96


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Quill_and_ink.svg/35px-Quill_and_ink.svg.png This writing system-related article is a stub.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Cyrillic_letter_En.png

En (Н, н) is a letter of the Cyrillic alphabet. It represents the consonant /n/ unless followed by ь or any of the palatalizing vowels when it becomes /nʲ/. It looks exactly like the Latin capital letter H, but it is derived from the Greek letter nu (Ν, ν).

The letter I (И, и), which looks like a backwards N, derives from Η (eta) while the letter En (Н, н) derives from Greek Ν (nu) which looks like a backwards cyrillic И.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/En_%28Cyrillic%29

... /UMMA/http://www.shabdaonline.com/images/ms_uma_parvati-140x105.jpg
http://members.aol.com/hindunet/pics/gods/shiva04.jpg

http://www.asianart.com/exhibitions/freschi/2.html

Shiva and his consort Uma or Parvati, the supreme divine couple, sit united in an everlasting embrace; the image, recurrent in the art of medieval India, bears the canonic name of Umamaheshvara (literally “Uma and the Great Lord”, that is Shiva). Together, the god and the goddess constitute the Absolute, the Whole. He embodies the immutable, the eternal; she is the energy (shakti), the dynamic aspect, the time in which the world unfolds. They symbolise the opposites and their overcoming, the multiplicity of things and the return to the One. In this relief, coming from more westerly regions, the theological concept is possibly expressed with rigour. Here the god’s bearing is imperturbed, motionless, while all the initiative and tension is concentrated in Uma’s figure, and the expression of her face seems to convey her serene awareness of it. The characteristic animals of the two gods, the bull and the tiger, couch at their feet, the arrangement in niches evokes the pomp and gaudiness of a celestial palace as well as the order of a firm divine control over the universe.



The Hindu Cosmos
Umma*
One of Shiva's wives. She represents motherhood, nuturing, and family.
http://uwacadweb.uwyo.edu/religionet/er/hinduism/HCOSMOS.HTM
http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/womeninpower/Womeninpower1800-filer/image025.jpg
Rani Gouri Parvati Bai

UM-MA -- Mother of the MIND
Ma = Mother in Sanskrit
( Um = Mind in Slavic, Mozak = The brain )
Brains, Mind, Reason -- Body, Soul, Spirit
There is a sayings in Sl. < How is your mind reasoning ? >
or ... Reason uma

[tinmenace]

Very interesting stuff, Edit.

What do you think about the Umma letters?

Did you look at the Voynich Manuscript? I'm very interested in your opinion on that?

[edit]

Tks T-M

Sory, as now i can not give an A to your Q, but maybe later ..
;)
http://www.mightywombat.com/toons/numbers.gif

[pierre_jean]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][B]That is incredible. Thanks for posting it. I never knew anything about Ummo. Never even heard of it. I'm very interested to know more. Do you know were we could find scanned images of the letters?

The history of the ummites is stranger, it is as difficult to prove as it is not a hoax, to prove that it is one! that has lasted for more than 35 years, and it is obviously not finished...
It proved that these ummites, being said extraterrestrial, revealed us technological information which did not have course at that time. Who thus would have on Earth such an advance on our knowledge?? The question which one can then put, if these ummites are not the extraterrestrial ones, this is why the human ones having a knowledge about the advanced technological one, would have fun to reveal it with foreigners in the form of letters since more than 35 years ??
You can look at this :
http://www.ummo-sciences.org/en/

[chattanova]

This is the backside of a German ID-card

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7956/0backsideofagermanidcarvd8.jpg

upside down
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6321/0backfliple1.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7835/0baphoh6.jpg

[turquoisefyre]

can anyone please tell me if having pentagram tattoos have what kinds of effects on your body?? pos or neg??

any sites/books to check out??

[tinmenace]

The pentagram is neutral, it's the user that defines it's purpose.

[graflok]

Maybe tinny can figure this out. I've been wondering about
the new Bank of America logo that they started using recently.

I can't quite get what they're doing symbol-wise.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40868000/jpg/_40868941_bank_story_ap.jpg

I know that square tipped up on one corner is an occult symbol
but I have the feeling there's more going on with this logo than
I have figured out.

Any ideas?

graflok

[tinmenace]

Hey Graf,

I've been pondering that logo for AGES. In fact I gave it another 10 minutes yesterday. Other than the three sets of twin lines (11's....3x11=33), I'm not getting much else from the design. It always seems to remind me of the countryside, you know....with the pastures....separated with stone walls or something...

[celtic isis]

This is the backside of a German ID-card

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7956/0backsideofagermanidcarvd8.jpg

upside down
http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/6321/0backfliple1.jpg

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/7835/0baphoh6.jpg

very interesting chattanova, just a bit confused cause, the pentagram on the goat head figure, baphomet whatever the hell his name is lol, well it's a positive pentagram, it should be pointing down for it to be negative...this is even on the tarot cards, this image of the 'devil' which really i think is the 'faunus' figure stolen by the church and made to portray the devil to keep people too repulsed to find out the esoteric truths behind the image....the devil on the tarot cards has the same positive pentagram on his forehead...

The french picasso Jean Cocteau, incredible artist, he left so many clus inhis work, anyway the faunus was the keeper of the oracles, the holder of the truth, occult truths, and it was this creature the church stole to make as the image of the devil.

[celtic isis]

Hmmm, dunno if I can go along with this thoth. Did you miss the sexual revolution of the 60'? I don't see much sexual repression in our neck of the woods, or in any other western country actually.

Sexuality and sex in general is EVERYWHERE.....its in your face and people are being actively encouraged to participate as much as poss...even the very young. Have you read a magazine designed for pre-teens and young teenage girls lately? Dolly for instance? If it weren't for the advertising, you'd swear you were reading a sex 'how to do' manual rather than a magazine. They're virtually pushing the girls out to become sexually active before they even developed beyond breast buds. Its revoltingly explicit!

I'd say its all being shoved down kids throats younger and younger......its easier to get em while they're young, then keep them occupied in the sexual fantasy world of the physical.....that'll take their minds off what's REALLY going on in this world and ensure they don't evolve a spiritual awareness.

No.....sexual repression is a thing of the past......if it ever really existed at all beyond closed doors.

i see what you're saying lime lady, you're right sex is everywhere but it is still a taboo subject, and the reason why sex is everywhere is cause it's still seen as a 'dirty' thing to be doing in our culture...so people still feel bad about their desires and push it away, hide it and therefore do not evolve to our full potential cause we surpress parts of ourselves we can't face....so we do live in a sexually repressed society cause we are still not comfortable with sex and what it means...even though it's a beautiful thing, man and woman or whoever you fancy joined as one...it's so spiritual but it has been raped itself and turned into something we should be ashamed of...no thanks to the church for that...and to porn etc...turning people into objects or like masters, sometimes it's the woman with the power/domination over the man other times it's the man who has the power over the woman...it should be an experience with two people in love, ideally, sharing eachother and becoming One...but there is so lttle respect for making love...it really makes me sad.

This is all what icke says in his book I Am Me, I Am Free, in chapter 'By Sin to the Stars'... !!!!!!

and also, as you say, girls are being pushed out to be sexually active even before they have developed breast buds...yes and what kind of vision of sex will they have? A crap one in my view cause, if their parents are repressed sexually, then the kids aren't going to be any different, they won't be equipped so young to deal with sex and what it means both emotionally and spirtually first, as well as physically...they won't have respect for themselves as women in relation to sex, like being in a loving sexual relationship, they will just see sex as a bit of fun, pleasure to indulge in and nothing more....purely just the physical experience.
The young men having sex early will have no respect for the girls they are with...ahh it's a crap cycle! You can see the agenda behind it too.

To thoth...i know, i see the penises lol but it isn't about phallac worship, it's just the stupid manipulating church using it to make it appear as being this, 'sun worship is really penis worship' lol. Ancient people were never that dense to just worship penises lol. I say this alot to my OH who is a freemason and like, this is what he says, they just want you to think it's penis worship, or sexual worship, it's not really, it may be part but it's symbolism of something entirely different. cause all of can have sex, sexual union, and we enjoy the creative energy we have after etc, but like, it's doesn't make us gods does it, give us full enlightenment...so there has to be more. Sexual union between man and woman is one key, but it isn't THE key...neither is the life force out of ejaculation...sun is man, moon is woman, sword to cup, penis,, vagina...i know lol, but it can't be this simple...

thanks though, you've made me horny for the rest of the damn day now lol imagining penises in doorways lol :D jokz

when i find out more about this sun worship thingy i'll let you know!

fab thread though thanks tinmenace for starting it!

[tinmenace]

You're welcome :)

[celtic isis]

The pentagram is neutral, it's the user that defines it's purpose.

It depends what way it's turned up, the top point down is NEGATIVE, an open door for the occult forces...hence the pentagon beign one, and also at the white house and i think at congress too, along with the owl of course, sitting atop a pyramid...tut tut

Basically, what i know bout it from looking into freemasonry...the star ot pentagram is important cause it is the guiding light you can see, you can look at directly, unlike the sun which is blinding and the moon which is just reflection of light from the sun...the star is its own pure, guiding light and so you can find your own 'truth' by following it.



now, the pentagram upright, with top point pointing up, is positive, a good symbol, showing that, in accordance with the human body (the head being the top point of the star, both arms and legs being the other four points) upright it means that you have spirituality over matter, the material....your mind comes first, therefore love, and emotions, feelings over material gain etc...


inverted or upside down, the pentagram means that your mind is governed by the material, the phsyical, and therefore greed, animal instincts...it's quite tricky to explain as you can probably tell lol...:o

hope it helps a bit :o Freemasonry is so fascinating isn't it!

hey there tinmenace! i see you just posted! a little edit to say hello, damn hard to expalin the meaning behind the pentagram lol

[singularities]

In case people don't already know it (hello ........??) the Zionist-Illuminati-Freemasons are responsible for distorting and perverting all (that I've come across) the ancient symbols, wisdom and knowledge about our spiritual-human nature and purpose. For instance the 'sun' was referred to in archaic Oriental tradition as being female and the moon was male. They traced their descent from a supreme Sun Goddess.* And that really makes sense as it's the female that gives birth to life and it's the sun that gives us all 'life' and enables life to grow. But like everything crucial, it's been inverted and corrupted by .... guess who? So that everything points to the all-conquering male as being responsible for giving us life and existence. Thus illustrating the agenda to TOTALLY eliminate women and the female, spiritual and nurturing aspect of existence. So the earth is left with warring, hate-filled males.
How do you like your men, everyone? The 'masculine' version or the 'feminine' version? Well get ready ......
*from 'Women's Encyclopaedia of Myths and Secrets'.

[celtic isis]

In case people don't already know it (hello ........??) the Zionist-Illuminati-Freemasons are responsible for distorting and perverting all (that I've come across) the ancient symbols, wisdom and knowledge about our spiritual-human nature and purpose. For instance the 'sun' was referred to in archaic Oriental tradition as being female and the moon was male. They traced their descent from a supreme Sun Goddess.* And that really makes sense as it's the female that gives birth to life and it's the sun that gives us all 'life' and enables life to grow. But like everything crucial, it's been inverted and corrupted by .... guess who? So that everything points to the all-conquering male as being responsible for giving us life and existence. Thus illustrating the agenda to TOTALLY eliminate women and the female, spiritual and nurturing aspect of existence. So the earth is left with warring, hate-filled males.
How do you like your men, everyone? The 'masculine' version or the 'feminine' version? Well get ready ......
*from 'Women's Encyclopaedia of Myths and Secrets'.

you're right singularities however...these people freemasons/illuminati etc, they do worship the female, she's their godess, the sacred feminine...but oyu'r right this is played down for the masses...

Freemasons get a bad rep, and i know it's been hijacked by putting it mildly 'bad uns' lol but freemasonry in itself doesn't really do this, play down the feminine power, both male and female are one after all...my other half is a freemason and he was even telling me the other day(cause he studied the bible looking for the truth at one time) that it's been misinterpreted (sorry can't ever spell that) what is meant for god in the bible and that it's actually feminine, the word used. and also it means gods i think, not gods...

In my view there would be nothing worse than a world without men! Could you imagine the bitchiness lol :D

[chattanova]

very interesting chattanova, just a bit confused cause, the pentagram on the goat head figure, baphomet whatever the hell his name is lol, well it's a positive pentagram, it should be pointing down for it to be negative...this is even on the tarot cards, this image of the 'devil' which really i think is the 'faunus' figure stolen by the church and made to portray the devil to keep people too repulsed to find out the esoteric truths behind the image....the devil on the tarot cards has the same positive pentagram on his forehead...

The french picasso Jean Cocteau, incredible artist, he left so many clus inhis work, anyway the faunus was the keeper of the oracles, the holder of the truth, occult truths, and it was this creature the church stole to make as the image of the devil.

Hi celtic , I know, i just didn't notice it. Bad example:)

[celtic isis]

Hi celtic , I know, i just didn't notice it. Bad example:)

hey there chattanova :D

i know, i used to do the same thing! :o

But what does it mean? I guess this 'devil' is the faunus figure...of the esoteric knowledge and then anyone with the other pentagram is the baphomet etc figure...

This symbolism stuff is so full of riddles and double meanings...:confused: lol

omg i just came back for a quick edit cause i just saw all the symbolism pics around hampton court etc you posted chattanova...you rock! Where were you when i was doing that handbag thread on this! I could've done with your help! :)

[celtic isis]

Maybe tinny can figure this out. I've been wondering about
the new Bank of America logo that they started using recently.

I can't quite get what they're doing symbol-wise.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40868000/jpg/_40868941_bank_story_ap.jpg

I know that square tipped up on one corner is an occult symbol
but I have the feeling there's more going on with this logo than
I have figured out.

Any ideas?

graflok

It also looks suspiciously like the freemasonic Euclid thing...haha
hang on i have a video link about it i'm sure...ok no i don't cause it's been removed for copyright violations...yeah right we've heard that one before...:mad:

Illuminati violations no doubt lol


http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/euclid_geometry_freemasonry.html

ah the video was much more interesting! :(

I may be mad but the logo reminded me of this! But yeah tiunmenace is right, it's also 3 '11's which of course equals '33' :D

[celtic isis]

Great post Tin I have two books on symbolism
Both by R.A Schwaller de Lubicz... whose work was continued after his departure from this plant by John Anthony West.

The books are called

Symbol and the Symbolic: Ancient Egypt, Science and the Evolution of Consciousness

http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/5156GE2KM6L._SS500_.jpg

the other is called Esoterism and Symbol
http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/I/71YA3PAG6CL._SS500_.gif

Egyptian really, but applicable to all Symbol in the way that a Symbol exists in more than one area , ie the Cerebral, and the innate. I am still reading the first one and its fascinating stuff. High genuine Art.

A lot of people when they see Symolism, don't see (as you know) it also is a positive thing, when handled correctly , many people see a Symbol and scream ARGGG Freemasonry !!!!LOL, but The Art and The Craft has been here since The Dawn.

Symbolism at its purest level is totally dependant on the "worker" and the intent.

The coin has two sides good intent or bad intent. Ther are the two paths , the High Path, and The Worldly path (The Low one)which most Masons alighn too.

The subversive use of which I detest. But when the intent is serving the good, then that's the purest of the two intents.

Some may see this post and say "That bloody Phoenix is a freemason" LOL crucify him now!!! LOL but they will be wrong because I am not.And that can be their choice as I respect there choice on that.

In The Old Sacred Mystical Schools, was much wisdom, much of which IS carried into Freemasonry .

The bad ritual is above 33 degrees. (There are more)

Manly P Hall, I see no words of i'll in his google vids at all, considered Freemasonrys finest Sage, he was a truly wise man. What he may have got into behind the shrouds I don't know. But from what ive seen of him , I like what he says.

Mankind has "Been effectivly cut off" from "seeing" the practicallities in the Sybmolic, and what the various symbols denote.

A pictorial empowered Symbol is exactly that. You can instill and use Symbol with various aspect and intent.

Its a cool thread this Tin... Cool indeed (eta on the vids Wednesday)

:) :) :D :D ;)


hmm jean cocteau who i mentioned in an earlier post, was a big buddy of his!!! :D

i smell a clique :rolleyes:

i have to put some cocteau stuff on here, if tinmenace doesn't mind? :)

[chattanova]

hey there chattanova :D

i know, i used to do the same thing! :o

But what does it mean? I guess this 'devil' is the faunus figure...of the esoteric knowledge and then anyone with the other pentagram is the baphomet etc figure...

This symbolism stuff is so full of riddles and double meanings...:confused: lol

omg i just came back for a quick edit cause i just saw all the symbolism pics around hampton court etc you posted chattanova...you rock! Where were you when i was doing that handbag thread on this! I could've done with your help! :)

:D You're right, the symbolism 'thing' is so full of double meanings/opposite meanings etc. there's no way it's possible to control it...

aah yeah the 'Hampton Court', that's just the most inzane 'map-picture' I have seen. It's sick really!
..And still people don't get this..?
When I show it to my friends and girlfriend they just laugh:( (they gotta be in some kind of a 'super-coma' or something...i don't know)
I'm soon gonna give up on them...:(

C Ya around celtic isis:D

[celtic isis]

:D You're right, the symbolism 'thing' is so full of double meanings/opposite meanings etc. there's no way it's possible to control it...

aah yeah the 'Hampton Court', that's just the most inzane 'map-picture' I have seen. It's sick really!
..And still people don't get this..?
When I show it to my friends and girlfriend they just laugh:( (they gotta be in some kind of a 'super-coma' or something...i don't know)
I'm soon gonna give up on them...:(

C Ya around celtic isis:D

hey chattanova :D

supercoma is the best way i've heard it put!!! i know, it's really frustrating, my family and all basically they just don't want to know...my dad knew all about the NWO and all cause he reads alot, so when i found out about it last year and was chirping on about it, i was shocked that he already knew lol. But well, it stops there for him really, but yeah i never get any replies to emails ever lol when i put stuff like that together and send it around, and all the corportate logos too, how anyone can still be in denial after seeing them i'll never know!

i'm going to get tshirts made up now lol :D

i love this quote from Ninch Inch Nails website:

Sheep wouldn't be fucking sheep if they had claws and could chew a man's head off! LOL

i have to put that on a tshirt! :D

i was looking at the german ID thing again, you'r right chat, it's definately some kind of baphomet shape...goathead thing...

I have to try and upload some pics on here of cocteau's stuff!!!
i'll try now...

catch you soon chattanova!

[chattanova]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/9602/archjv3.jpg

The Arch is another powerful symbol to the Illuminati. Take for example the Grand Royal Arch of Freemasonry. Part of the symbol represents the point at the top which bears the pressure for the whole structure below and thusly symbolises hierarchical power.

You will often find many arches with an enlarged stone (called a 'key-stone') for this symbol to be more visually obvious.

http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/6280/arch2as3.jpg

http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/7246/arch4ws9.jpg


The McDonalds logo really reminds me about this.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7527/mcdlogoxj0.png

I know it's just a 'M' but it's something with it.. and you know the McDonalds, that company is into stuff:eek:...

[lottie]

i have noticed this a lot recently- especially on the news- whenever they do a link to someone in another studio or an MP or something- they always have a backdrop of London and and arching bridge- i dunno what bridge it is- but its a big arch - anyway- have been noticing arches in a lot of tv lately- i'll keep my eye out for them,
you just KNOW Mc Shit is in on it all too!!!

[freespark]

Doh! I posted this in the advertising thread! I see that it prolly belongs in here.

Scuse my question below 'does anyone have any thoughts on this'....i will read thread in it's entirety and go from there. :)

Hello all,

Check out this link below...the mobile phone company '3' has a flash advert on Virgin radio's front page...

http://www.virginradio.co.uk/listen/

Pentagram anyone?

This pentagram thing is EVERYWHERE!! Been watching the 'kerrang' music channel on Sky this weekend....pentagram is everywhere. Also on extreme sports channel...skaters with pentagram log's on thier shirts.

I know what this thing stands for or what it eludes to, but why is it plastered everywhere? Sub-concious 'programming' or just a little joke on us to show us that 'they' are everywhere??

http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/189/mendesps3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

[tinmenace]

Well, the Pentagram is neutral until someone give it meaning through their intent, so it can be used for good or for evil. Virgin has a major loomie symbolism going on. Someone started another thread about it, some weeks ago. Click here. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3352&highlight=virgin).

I'm certain that "Virgin" refers to a virgin goddess, probably Ishtar (virgin birth).

Virgin is owned by Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson, a knighted billionaire. I DO believe that his Pentagram is not just a star.

[mikeproteau]

The McDonalds logo really reminds me about this.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7527/mcdlogoxj0.png

I know it's just a 'M' but it's something with it.. and you know the McDonalds, that company is into stuff:eek:...

well, masons love gold....and arches

[mikeproteau]

Maybe tinny can figure this out. I've been wondering about
the new Bank of America logo that they started using recently.

I can't quite get what they're doing symbol-wise.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40868000/jpg/_40868941_bank_story_ap.jpg

I know that square tipped up on one corner is an occult symbol
but I have the feeling there's more going on with this logo than
I have figured out.

Any ideas?

graflok

swastika

[lottie]

found this in the 'coins' search for the coin thread but i thought of here- this is one of our £1 coins

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2930/1pound07sh9.jpg

its gateshead millenium bridge apparently!! this is the same bridge i was saying the news always show in the background when linking to someone in another studio!

[freespark]

found this in the 'coins' search for the coin thread but i thought of here- this is one of our £1 coins

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/2930/1pound07sh9.jpg

its gateshead millenium bridge apparently!! this is the same bridge i was saying the news always show in the background when linking to someone in another studio!

I noticed that the 'Arch' over the new Wembley stadium is very similar to this!

[lottie]

hey freespark- you are right it does- here's one pic- the arch can look very different from different angles!!

http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/1239/300pxwembleystadiumclosft5.jpg

[celtic isis]

The McDonalds logo really reminds me about this.

http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/7527/mcdlogoxj0.png

I know it's just a 'M' but it's something with it.. and you know the McDonalds, that company is into stuff:eek:...

hey chatt :D

all i know of the Mac arches are that they are the Aries fire sign symbolising power, drive, energy, the sun etc, also the mac logo makes up the number
'13' when put on its side, ie the macdonald's makes up the '1' the way it's written and the arches make the '3'. lol sorry to spell it out but i'm used to talking to stupid people (not here lol) :)

i have to do more research into arches...i don't really find many in freemasonry though, they're more obsessed with columns usually. But yeah arches are everywhere, i guess they're like portals, doorways.

i think we all know the signs of the brotherhood by now don't we. ;)

[celtic isis]

Doh! I posted this in the advertising thread! I see that it prolly belongs in here.

Scuse my question below 'does anyone have any thoughts on this'....i will read thread in it's entirety and go from there. :)

hey freespark :)

yeah i know the pentagram is EVERYWHERE. I don't think it's ever 'just a star' cause a star in itself is full of symbolism and meaning...i will just quickly say that in freemasonry the star is the guiding light you can find the truth (in life) behind as it is pure light, unlike the moon which is a simple reflection of the sun and the sun which is too blinding...the star is pure light you can follow. and of course it also has the sacred geometry of the pentagramme, the five points etc so it's a huge symbol of nature itself.

ah damn i'll have to go for now, computer being stolen from me! :mad:

but just to say we were in a church the other day and there was an inverted pentagram on a kneeling chair and below it was a tiny heart and then on the last section was a huge skull and bones! What the word ror it, oh yeah inlaid, the wood was all inlaid in different hues you know to make up the pattern. Crazy eh, but like to have an inverted pentagram in a church CRAZY!

we took pics on my OH's phone but anyway i'll take a camera next time and take pics of it, very sinister indeed. :confused:

[chattanova]

hey chatt :D

all i know of the Mac arches are that they are the Aries fire sign symbolising power, drive, energy, the sun etc, also the mac logo makes up the number
'13' when put on its side, ie the macdonald's makes up the '1' the way it's written and the arches make the '3'. lol sorry to spell it out but i'm used to talking to stupid people (not here lol) :)

i have to do more research into arches...i don't really find many in freemasonry though, they're more obsessed with columns usually. But yeah arches are everywhere, i guess they're like portals, doorways.

i think we all know the signs of the brotherhood by now don't we. ;)

aaah I knew there was something with this, thanks a lot celtic isis:) you're always helpful;)

[celtic isis]

aaah I knew there was something with this, thanks a lot celtic isis:) you're always helpful;)

haha awww chattanova!!! :o
helpful or annoying? lol :D

i got it from Michael Tsarion and some corportate logo stuff. Interesting though eh, and those Mac arches, well they're everywhere, all over the world and people don't know what they mean. :confused:

If you look on youtube for M tsarion you'll see his subversive use of occult symbolism and he talks about the mac arches on there :)

M Tsar aww bless his little irish cotton socks lol :D
i have a little soft spot for him lol

as you pointed out those mac bastards, they make the logo just appear like an 'M'...grrrrr! lol

[freespark]

haha awww chattanova!!! :o
helpful or annoying? lol :D

i got it from Michael Tsarion and some corportate logo stuff. Interesting though eh, and those Mac arches, well they're everywhere, all over the world and people don't know what they mean. :confused:

If you look on youtube for M tsarion you'll see his subversive use of occult symbolism and he talks about the mac arches on there :)

M Tsar aww bless his little irish cotton socks lol :D
i have a little soft spot for him lol

as you pointed out those mac bastards, they make the logo just appear like an 'M'...grrrrr! lol

I've seen that Michael Tsarion vid..i think there are about 9 of them in the whole. It gives one a good insight into what symbolism to look out for and indeed how prevalent they are in society. Good stuff.

[celtic isis]

I've seen that Michael Tsarion vid..i think there are about 9 of them in the whole. It gives one a good insight into what symbolism to look out for and indeed how prevalent they are in society. Good stuff.


hey there freespark :D

yep, there's about 9 or so of them alright, hehe you can't beat M Tsar lol. I really have a soft spot for him, he's mega paranoid though but only cause he's so damn passionate about this ;)

I love those vids, he did a great job in his seminar putting all that together. The occult symbolism, whether all of the companies are aware or not, is pretty much everywhere, even addidas's logo is a pyramid...:rolleyes: And of course, the car logos esspecially.

I'm such a nerd now lol i save em all each time i find a new one! :o

I don't like that Disney are so esoteric/satanic though...i know it's mainly Christian nuts who point this out but they are right...did anyone happen to see the vid on youtube with winnie the pooh practising satanism? lol :D

i have to find it!

hehe here it is : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_A-76LaP5M

[ho1ogram]

Here is the pentagram shape in an apple...
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/2338/img0797nu1.jpg

http://www.celestialclock.com/SG_files/image004.jpg

I don't understand how the star of spiral forms a pentagram/pentagon shape, but if it is true and the 'Star of Spiral Creation explains the human form' then it seems to me that's why the lumies focus on it in their rituals. By giving negative intent to something that explains the human form then they are distorting our perception of reality at our very core.

[tinmenace]

Interesting observation!

It can be a very powerful tool. It all depends on the intent of the user.

[ho1ogram]

That's right and as the pentagram shape is found throughout nature, by placing it on war machines their intent vibrates throughout our very being, like setting up a field of negative intent that transmits through all of creation.

I guess then it is a choice of tuning into whichever vibration you like; the lumie version or nature's creative version.

[tinmenace]

Right on!

Fantastic post bud. Wow!

[celtic isis]

Here is the pentagram shape in an apple...
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/2338/img0797nu1.jpg

http://www.celestialclock.com/SG_files/image004.jpg

I don't understand how the star of spiral forms a pentagram/pentagon shape, but if it is true and the 'Star of Spiral Creation explains the human form' then it seems to me that's why the lumies focus on it in their rituals. By giving negative intent to something that explains the human form then they are distorting our perception of reality at our very core.

yep it's sacred geometry the golden ratio, is that the same thing?

[ho1ogram]

yep it's sacred geometry the golden ratio, is that the same thing?
Dunno, but it's interesting that the pentagram and pentagon are in nature and they are used so often with destructive intent. It is like it is corrupting the very nature of creation... or sending out a blocking frequency over the top of consciousness...

[ho1ogram]

Australian Masonic ceremony in front of upside down pentagram.

http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/reportImages/P1010018brightondec04cw_449_x_600.jpg

http://www.vmma.net.au/reports_raw/brighton_district_lodge_no__37_dec__04.htm

[celtic isis]

Dunno, but it's interesting that the pentagram and pentagon are in nature and they are used so often with destructive intent. It is like it is corrupting the very nature of creation... or sending out a blocking frequency over the top of consciousness...

my apple pent :D

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4418/1182169740_4671.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

[pierre_jean]

While passing in front of bank BNP - Paribas and then in front of bank Courtois, I realized that their logos comprise both a star.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/203/bnplogolc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7146/banquecourtoissr4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Returned at home, I made some research on the banks and organizations of credit in France...

Banque Populaire logo comprise 2 crosses
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/584/banquepopulairelogobh8.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Credit du Nord have the same star as Banque Courtois :eek:
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4830/creditdunorduh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Sofinco, credit corporation :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7817/sofincoyg6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cofidis, an other credit corp which is a sun (so a star ?:D)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/3742/logocofidisgm8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Crédit Lyonnais, famous bank (new logo)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/655/logocreditlyonnaissh6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[celtic isis]

[QUOTE=pierre_jean;60958]While passing in front of bank BNP - Paribas and then in front of bank Courtois, I realized that their logos comprise both a star.

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/203/bnplogolc3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/7146/banquecourtoissr4.gif[/URL




yep well spotted pierre jean :D that paribas one has been annoying me for awhile lol watching the tennis!


look good links on corporate logos :D

http://truthinprophecy.com/blog/?p=206 (http://imageshack.us)

[url]http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/13_33_freemason_sig.htm

[pierre_jean]

The ancient logo and mascot was a Lion :eek:
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1503/admirabledesignlcllionux8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Other logos with star or crosses :

French Soccer Federation (FFF) logo :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8105/fffot9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

EADS logo (weapons) :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/3876/logoeads1kq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Dexia logo (financial group) :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2205/logodexiaki0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Axia group (insurance)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/163/axalogoqj9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Other Symbols :
Credit Mutuel (bank) :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8601/logocreditmutueldg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Credit Agricole (bank) :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4773/logocreditagricoleat0.gif (http://imageshack.us)

La Poste (bank)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/1150/logolapostepa3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[pierre_jean]

Off topic (just for fun) :D
UMP logo (Sarkozy party) :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2350/logoump2lk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TF1 logo (TV)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8018/200pxtf1wj4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Astonishing, not?

[celtic isis]

Off topic (just for fun) :D
UMP logo (Sarkozy party) :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/2350/logoump2lk9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
TF1 logo (TV)
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8018/200pxtf1wj4.gif (http://imageshack.us)

Astonishing, not?

i know, the signs are everywhere...

what's with these signs PJ, The TFI and sarko, that they use masonic colours?

[pierre_jean]

i know, the signs are everywhere...

what's with these signs PJ, The TFI and sarko, that they use masonic colours?

admittedly but they are especially the colors of the French flag: Blue, white, red :D

[celtic isis]

admittedly but they are especially the colors of the French flag: Blue, white, red :D

oh yeah! je suis trop stupide lol :D

:o:o:o

[whitenight639]

Caduceus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The caduceus is strongly linked to the Ancient Greek god Hermes (Mercury in Roman mythology). The origin of the staff is described in the story of Tiresias,[1] who found two snakes copulating and attempted to separate them with his staff. Tiresias was immediately turned in to a woman, and so remained until he was able to repeat the act seven years later. This staff later came in to the possession of the god Hermes, along with its transformative powers.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/whitenight639/medical_symbol_md.jpg








Rod of Asclepius - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Rod of Asclepius symbolizes the healing arts by combining the serpent, which in shedding its skin is a symbol of rebirth and fertility, with the staff, a symbol of authority, befitting the god of Medicine. The snake wrapped around the staff is widely claimed to be a species of rat snake, Elaphe longissima, also known as the Aesculapian (Asclepian) snake. It is native to southeastern Europe, Asia Minor, and some central European spa regions, apparently brought there by Romans for their healing properties.

'Worm' theory

Some scholars have suggested that the symbol once represented a worm wrapped around a rod; parasitic worms such as the "guinea worm" (Dracunculus medinensis) were common in ancient times, and were extracted from beneath the skin by winding them slowly around a stick. Physicians may have advertised this common service by posting a sign depicting a worm on a rod.
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/whitenight639/Rod_of_asclepius.jpg

[ho1ogram]

my apple pent :D

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4418/1182169740_4671.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

'tis beautiful :)


French Soccer Federation (FFF) logo :
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/8105/fffot9.jpg

F is the sixth letter of the alphabet: 666



what's with these signs PJ, The TFI and sarko, that they use masonic colours?
Australia, France, Britain, U.S. (and other countries, red, white and blue flags) = Masonic influence. See a pattern emerging? ;) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=61176 US and Australia invaded under the star of Venus/Columbia/Diana/Ishtar Goddess, French mason's donated the Statue of Liberty to the U.S. etc, etc.

[celtic isis]

'tis beautiful :)



F is the sixth letter of the alphabet: 666



Australia, France, Britain, U.S. (and other countries, red, white and blue flags) = Masonic influence. See a pattern emerging? ;) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=61176 US and Australia invaded under the star of Venus/Columbia/Diana/Ishtar Goddess, French mason's donated the Statue of Liberty to the U.S. etc, etc.

you see lol

i know my shit lol ;)

look i just went on a bit of a rant in our other thread lol

ok i'll keep an eye on my little mason ok ;)

i have read all about the illuminati intertwining networks, how they operate etc...

[celtic isis]

not to mention the exact replica of the statue of liberty/semirimis/columbia by the reine here in france :)

[celtic isis]

this one's just for you hologram :D


http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4473/1182252717_2402.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)


http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4473/1182252719_7392.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)


http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4473/1182252724_2734.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4473/1182252727_6435.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4473/1182252731_7997.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

First image - the westfields hotel where one bilderberg meeting took place. all seeing eye no?

Second- columbia pictures..illuminati torch, babylonian etc goddess...pyramid...

Third - Ameritrade

Fourth - french cable company Alice

Fifth - MI5...

[celtic isis]

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4474/1182253457_3896.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

AOL

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4474/1182253461_8428.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

CBS

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4474/1182253465_3018.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

Fidelity


http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4474/1182253472_6312.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

Hyundai

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4474/1182253470_3793.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)


and the uk national lottery hidden 6's....

[freespark]

my apple pent :D

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4418/1182169740_4671.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

Wow....awesome stuff there Granny Smith!! :D

This thread delivers...I don't look in for a week and then all this new stuff. Thanks muchly you guys!! ;)

[pierre_jean]

'tis beautiful :)



F is the sixth letter of the alphabet: 666



Australia, France, Britain, U.S. (and other countries, red, white and blue flags) = Masonic influence. See a pattern emerging? ;) http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=61176 US and Australia invaded under the star of Venus/Columbia/Diana/Ishtar Goddess, French mason's donated the Statue of Liberty to the U.S. etc, etc.

Yes you're right, there is a pattern. But in the precise case of UMP and TF1 logos, I think the link works between french flag an french people mind, with an aim of identification nationalist, I think, even if colors of origin is a masonic one...

FFF = 666
Do you think Zidane is the antichrist ? (with materazzi "headshot(?)" with the finale of the world cup) :D
It is rather a joke even if the role of this sport largely exceeds the sporting framework...

[ho1ogram]

this one's just for you hologram :D

Thank you :D

Yes you're right, there is a pattern. But in the precise case of UMP and TF1 logos, I think the link works between french flag an french people mind, with an aim of identification nationalist, I think, even if colors of origin is a masonic one...

FFF = 666
Do you think Zidane is the antichrist ? (with materazzi "headshot(?)" with the finale of the world cup) :D
It is rather a joke even if the role of this sport largely exceeds the sporting framework...

G'day, I don't know if those colours on the flags are related to masonic origins or not, I just made the link when celtic isis said they were masonic. The masons use a lot of colours in their different degrees.
I have always wondered about red, white and blue being a similar theme on so many flags - Panama (has 2 pentagrams on it as well), Netherlands, the French territories (not surprising as their French), Iceland, Yugoslavia, Thailand and more.

I don't much about soccer/football. (over here I watch a bit of AFL, Aussie Rules Football). I have noticed though that the world cup trophy looks like a winged claw holding a globe (earth).

[limelady]

Back in January (before signing on as a mod here) I started a blog.
I didn't get far (only two entries :D), but my first article there was
on colour symbolism.

http://thejuiceonsymbols.blogspot.com

[celtic isis]

Wow....awesome stuff there Granny Smith!! :D

This thread delivers...I don't look in for a week and then all this new stuff. Thanks muchly you guys!! ;)

HAHAAAAAAAAAAA! Granny Smith LOL :D
you kill me freesparky :D

haha i know, i had to prove a point to hologram...;)

[celtic isis]

Yes you're right, there is a pattern. But in the precise case of UMP and TF1 logos, I think the link works between french flag an french people mind, with an aim of identification nationalist, I think, even if colors of origin is a masonic one...

FFF = 666
Do you think Zidane is the antichrist ? (with materazzi "headshot(?)" with the finale of the world cup) :D
It is rather a joke even if the role of this sport largely exceeds the sporting framework...

yeah but lol FFF also stands for French Football Fedaration no? what is it in french PJ, Fedaration Foot Française???

I think they're masonic colours :D

No doubt Zidane is also a mason :rolleyes:

anyone notice the hidden 6's in Walt Disney...

hang on i have to upload the dammed thing...

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4531/1182331019_3099.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

You see all the 6's...there's actually 6 'disguised' in this logo...2 hidden in the W, one on the T, another in the big D for disney, one on the dot of the "i" and the last on the Y at the end of disney...

I swear if i ever have kids i won't let thme near this crap, i won't even but winne the pooh stuff for my little nephew anymore lol

(and strangely enough, his mum is a first class witch and she forces winne the pooh on him?) hmmm... lol

more logos...

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4531/1182331012_3719.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4531/1182331009_1028.jpg (http://www.imgplace.com)

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4531/1182331015_8472.gif (http://www.imgplace.com)

eurosport is also red, blue white???

[celtic isis]

Back in January (before signing on as a mod here) I started a blog.
I didn't get far (only two entries :D), but my first article there was
on colour symbolism.

http://thejuiceonsymbols.blogspot.com

bloody hell lime your blog there is ACE! :D

i'm adding it to my favourites right now!

well done bravo!

also i forgot to mention white night there what he posted...yep, this symbol i really want to study more, that worm story is horrible!

has anyone noticed the superman logo...i was looking at it inthe mall this morning on a giant poster and well the S is a snake lol. I heard this before but thought nah...but it is lol

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4531/1182331675_8066.bmp (http://www.imgplace.com)

what's going on with the snake stuff? Is it just that we really are ruled by a serpentine/rep race?

[freespark]

HAHAAAAAAAAAAA! Granny Smith LOL :D
you kill me freesparky :D

haha i know, i had to prove a point to hologram...;)

Hey hey Miss Isis,

I'm glad you got this! I didn't know if you knew what a Granny Smith was!! :D

[celtic isis]

Hey hey Miss Isis,

I'm glad you got this! I didn't know if you knew what a Granny Smith was!! :D

lol of course i do! those slightly bitter apples...hey are you calling me a bitter apple now freespark lol

i'm joking lol :D

bloody hell i'm starving too!

[freespark]

lol of course i do! those slightly bitter apples...hey are you calling me a bitter apple now freespark lol


Lets not jump the gun...i haven't taken a bite yet!! ROFL!! :D

[celtic isis]

Lets not jump the gun...i haven't taken a bite yet!! ROFL!! :D

HAHAHAHA HAHAHA HEEEEEEEEEEEYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!

I'm a fiesty apple! :D not bitter, though i have a slight temper...particulary when defending freemasons lol

you're the king of puns today freesparky! ;)

[freespark]

....has anyone noticed the superman logo...i was looking at it inthe mall this morning on a giant poster and well the S is a snake lol. I heard this before but thought nah...but it is lol

http://imgplace.com/directory/dir4531/1182331675_8066.bmp (http://www.imgplace.com)

what's going on with the snake stuff? Is it just that we really are ruled by a serpentine/rep race?

Hi Missisis,

How's your apples?

With regards to your question about the snake. Mathew Delooze reffers to the serpent cult below...he has written a book called 'breaking the serpents spell' and also a recent article about festivals and how they (4th dimentional entities - or dare i say it- REPTILES) 'farm' our energy at these places.

Edit: Found the link to the festival article...http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2007/04/answer.html

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2007/06/pocket-full-of-posies.html

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2007/03/hosanna-hosanna.html

I think 'serpent cult' is a good name for them actually. There is alot of serpent symbolism about as well.

Oops...we just lost your superman image!

[celtic isis]

Hi Missisis,

How's your apples?

With regards to your question about the snake. Mathew Delooze reffers to the serpent cult below...he has written a book called 'breaking the serpents spell' and also a recent article about festivals and how they (4th dimentional entities - or dare i say it- REPTILES) 'farm' our energy at these places.

Edit: Found the link to the festival article...http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2007/04/answer.html

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2007/06/pocket-full-of-posies.html

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2007/03/hosanna-hosanna.html

I think 'serpent cult' is a good name for them actually. There is alot of serpent symbolism about as well.

Oops...we just lost your superman image!


haha my apples are just fine thanks freesparky! :D

kool thanks for the link!!!! gonna check it out now...i've heard this mentioned before, mabe icke mentioned him in one of his books...?

i know, all my pics have disappeared :eek: omg i could cry! it tok ages to get them all uploaded....:mad:

[celtic isis]

bloody hell lime your blog there is ACE! :D

i'm adding it to my favourites right now!

well done bravo!

also i forgot to mention white night there what he posted...yep, this symbol i really want to study more, that worm story is horrible!

has anyone noticed the superman logo...i was looking at it inthe mall this morning on a giant poster and well the S is a snake lol. I heard this before but thought nah...but it is lol

http://aycu22.webshots.com/image/17781/2004563482260142783_rs.jpg (http://allyoucanupload.webshots.com/v/2004563482260142783)

what's going on with the snake stuff? Is it just that we really are ruled by a serpentine/rep race?

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ...lol

[tinmenace]

Here is the pentagram shape in an apple...
http://img463.imageshack.us/img463/2338/img0797nu1.jpg

http://www.celestialclock.com/SG_files/image004.jpg

I don't understand how the star of spiral forms a pentagram/pentagon shape, but if it is true and the 'Star of Spiral Creation explains the human form' then it seems to me that's why the lumies focus on it in their rituals. By giving negative intent to something that explains the human form then they are distorting our perception of reality at our very core.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/seabiscuit.jpg

Seabiscuit

[delooze]

ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ...lol

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2006/08/superman-real-symbolism.html

[freespark]

http://matthew-delooze.blogspot.com/2006/08/superman-real-symbolism.html

Thanks Matt!

[bapp_69]

Can anyone tell me what the significance of the symbol found beside the www.davidicke.com web address.

Or has anybody got a larger picture of it??

http://i185.photobucket.com/albums/x210/bapp_69/ickesymbol.jpg

[sean]

It's the 'Joomla' symbol that's been left on by default.

Joomla is a content management system that we use on the main part of the website (www.joomla.org)

We really need a customised logo come to think of it...

[bapp_69]

Ok cool, thanks Sean. Here was I thinking it had some significance to David haha!! It is a nice symbol tho!!!

[celtic isis]

Ok cool, thanks Sean. Here was I thinking it had some significance to David haha!! It is a nice symbol tho!!!

haha what a bummer eh :rolleyes:

oh well at least we're all getting more open eyed when it comes to symbolism around us :D

[freespark]

Check this image out..i thought it was quite interesting combining 'christian opportunity' and 'pentagrams' in the same image.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2694/starkb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


How 'they' must laugh at thier little inside jokes when they see things like this.

This image was found at the virgin radio website.

http://www.virginradio.co.uk/

[tinmenace]

Hey freespark,

Also, a circle with a dot in the center is a basic sun symbol. (Son symbol?)

[celtic isis]

Check this image out..i thought it was quite interesting combining 'christian opportunity' and 'pentagrams' in the same image.

http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/2694/starkb6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


How 'they' must laugh at thier little inside jokes when they see things like this.

This image was found at the virgin radio website.

http://www.virginradio.co.uk/

hey freespark :D how are you my toffee apple :D

i know i wonder this myself...of course they could just be "stars" too, the problem is there's no way of knowing the intention behind it is there.
:confused:

[harbingers_kiss]

This is a strange post and since none of you know my background, let's just say I've been monitoring earthquakes and volcanoes for the past few years. Some quakes and eruptions are natural, others are maufactured by the powers that be. Oddly, this is the first time I have ever noticed this. It's been there for 5 years obviously I just never connected it until tonight.

http://www.iris.washington.edu/seismon/

The purple dots are quakes that have happened within the last 5 years. Start at Hawaii on the 19.5 N lat. Then go south and notice the dots east and west on the 4 and 6 lat. Go south again to the 9 lat east and west. You have a perfect pentagram, smack in the middle of the Pacific with extraneous dots in the same area...so I mean it's not like a connect the dots where you could come up with any shape..it's a frekin' pentagram. Knowing what I know about the manipulation of "natural" disasters, I don't think this pentagram is a coincidence.

[celtic isis]

This is a strange post and since none of you know my background, let's just say I've been monitoring earthquakes and volcanoes for the past few years. Some quakes and eruptions are natural, others are maufactured by the powers that be. Oddly, this is the first time I have ever noticed this. It's been there for 5 years obviously I just never connected it until tonight.

http://www.iris.washington.edu/seismon/

The purple dots are quakes that have happened within the last 5 years. Start at Hawaii on the 19.5 N lat. Then go south and notice the dots east and west on the 4 and 6 lat. Go south again to the 9 lat east and west. You have a perfect pentagram, smack in the middle of the Pacific with extraneous dots in the same area...so I mean it's not like a connect the dots where you could come up with any shape..it's a frekin' pentagram. Knowing what I know about the manipulation of "natural" disasters, I don't think this pentagram is a coincidence.


now that is interesting harbingers_kiss! :eek:

and you just reminded of the pentagram in France too, when you connect the "dots" of five key cities...hang on i'll have to find it now.

[celtic isis]

interesting freemasonic link on the pentagram...

http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/anti-masonry/pentagram.html

still can't find the french pentagram!

[harbingers_kiss]

Yes, the pentagon in the Pacific ocean is awfully intriguing isn't it ? I have some thoeries but they sound rather insane. Most of the larger quakes in the past few years have been caused by man, with intent. The odds of a lone pentagon with it's north point on the 19.5 of Hawaii (which is a very significant point on the planet and ties in to a 3D star of david) are remote at best. I think this is important and I think David Icke should know about it, but even if there is an email addy for him, and I don't know if there is, with the amount of crap mail he gets, he'd probably dump this before reading it.

One of the easiest ways to control a population is by natural disaster (cough). There will be nobody to point the finger to as in war, and everyone will beg for assistance, not to mention you can herd everybody in one direction like cattle. I think they are trying to cause a major global disaster and given their penchant for ritual, could be causing quakes in the Pacific to....I don't know this new age lingo... set up a certain vibration within the planet...or at least they THINK that is what they are doing.


I did a search on the cities in France you mention but nothing came no matter how I keyworded it. Please post the link as soon as you find it. I'm always losing links, or deleting them thinking I won't need them again LOL. Frustrating.

[celtic isis]

Yes, the pentagon in the Pacific ocean is awfully intriguing isn't it ? I have some thoeries but they sound rather insane. Most of the larger quakes in the past few years have been caused by man, with intent. The odds of a lone pentagon with it's north point on the 19.5 of Hawaii (which is a very significant point on the planet and ties in to a 3D star of david) are remote at best. I think this is important and I think David Icke should know about it, but even if there is an email addy for him, and I don't know if there is, with the amount of crap mail he gets, he'd probably dump this before reading it.

One of the easiest ways to control a population is by natural disaster (cough). There will be nobody to point the finger to as in war, and everyone will beg for assistance, not to mention you can herd everybody in one direction like cattle. I think they are trying to cause a major global disaster and given their penchant for ritual, could be causing quakes in the Pacific to....I don't know this new age lingo... set up a certain vibration within the planet...or at least they THINK that is what they are doing.


I did a search on the cities in France you mention but nothing came no matter how I keyworded it. Please post the link as soon as you find it. I'm always losing links, or deleting them thinking I won't need them again LOL. Frustrating.


i know it's sickening about the population control isn't it. And even sicker that the sheeple have no idea about it.

i will definitely put up the link, it's to do with freemasonry (the 5 journeys, cinq voyages) and the templars too, but haha even a freemason couldn't get into the site with the password needed! So i'll hunt for it later again. Or else i'll have to scan the book i have that it's in.

"One of the easiest ways to control a population is by natural disaster (cough). There will be nobody to point the finger to as in war, and everyone will beg for assistance, not to mention you can herd everybody in one direction like cattle. I think they are trying to cause a major global disaster and given their penchant for ritual, could be causing quakes in the Pacific to....I don't know this new age lingo... set up a certain vibration within the planet...or at least they THINK that is what they are doing."

I really liked the way you put that harbingers_kiss, that's exactly it.


i'd say definitely try and email icke with this, it's very important, i hope it wouldn't get dumped as yousay cause of all the other mail he gets. This is well worth seeing and more importantly knowing about :eek:

[harbingers_kiss]

Other than the "submit an article" page, and I'm not in the mood to write one as I'm having a series of oral surgeries over the next month, the best I could do was pm the forum heirarchy.. sean. I don't know if he will read it, or if he has contact with david, or if he has contact with someone who does.. all we can do is hope he does. IMO this is a very important piece of info that will become exceedingly relevant as time goes by. If they had an "Earth and Space" forum here I'd keep updating the conditions of the planet. Not trying to sound pompous or anything but I have a long track record of being right when it comes to geo events. I'm betting this quake pattern was manufactured.

[harbingers_kiss]

By the way Celtic, thanks for reading my posts. The elite have symbolism all over the place and I think people are getting tired of rehashing the same ol' shit..but unfortunately, this pentagon could kill people (kinda like the one in washington LOL) People probably won't listen to me, but they will listen to david.

Yes, their method of population control leaves a lot to be desired. I personally think we are over populated, but I can think of better ways to handle it. Well, I suppose if they were trying to weed out genetics...the natural disaster scenario does make sense. Only the people who were intelligent enough to see it coming and prepare will remain, and just a handful of those to boot. If I were them, and particularily of thier mind.. I'd trigger Yellowstone. Everyone who survives will run north and east where detention centers can easily be waiting. The rest of the planetary population will freeze or starve under global martial law. Toba would be a good volcano to blow too, more output than Yellowstone. Both would be charming. LOL Coincidently, Toba is close to the epicenter of the '04 Sumatran man made quakes and tsunami. The tectonic shift opened up a huge submarine volcano that will eventually create an island. I don't think that was their intent though.

[harbingers_kiss]

It's also possible they are trying to trigger Hawaii for a major eruption, That would be strategically beneficial for them as well. Oh wow.. I just thought of something. When Hawaii's quakes increase, Yellowstone's microquakes increase as well. The two are interconnected. They could be trying to set up a vibe within Hawaii that will trigger Yellowstone.

[lostinstrangeworld]

Wow, this is an amazingly fascinating subject!

After watching the Arizona Wilder interviews, I began to wonder whether witchcraft itself was something risky, leaving innocent practitioners open to manipulation from the 'dark side'......I have met a few people into that sort of thing who were depressed/unstable.......

However, perhaps these are just powers we could all harness for good or for 'evil'?

I would love to learn more and set up a coven, a sort of 'white sisterhood' for the aim of planetry healing, etc.....but it is so difficult if not impossible to meet like-minded people who are kindred spirits.

[revolution 9]

People who are into that sort of thing that are depressed and unstable aren't depressed and unstable because of what they're involved in; they got involved in it BECAUSE they were depressed and unstable. How sad for them when they find the gods they're asking for help don't give a fuck about them. At all.

[tinmenace]

So, are you saying there ARE gods, but they just don't give a fuck. Or, are you saying there are no gods and that's why they don't give a fuck because they actually don't exist?

[lostinstrangeworld]

What I want to know is:

Was the occult invented by the Reptilians, or is there MORE to it than that?

My theory is that people need to be careful what they leave themselves open to. You wouldn't leave the back door open to strangers.

However, the occult stuff might simply be a science, it might be that it is not what you have, but how you use it applies;)

Whether or not God exists, depends on your definition of God. The Gods in the scriptures were the alien manipulators, but it doesn't mean that God does not exist, if your definition of God is Infinite Love.

Spiritual paths such as Buddhism are good, because they teach you to go within to find the truth.

[revolution 9]

So, are you saying there ARE gods, but they just don't give a fuck. Or, are you saying there are no gods and that's why they don't give a fuck because they actually don't exist?

"God" is a term we all define for ourselves. Are there powerful entities, spirits, life-forms, or aliens that call themselves gods? Probably. Are there entities that exist because our belief gave them some form of existence? Possibly. Have they shown themselves to give a flying fuck about anything outside of themselves? Not really.

So actually it's both of the things you say... many of them don't exist, many may be something else. But I've never encountered one without some history of bloodshed, and the Pagan types I know who supposedly communicate with such beings have never received any kind of warning or even concern for what's going on in the world. The ones that may or do exist exist only for worship and nothing else.

If you put your faith in gods, you put your faith in utter failure. Have faith in yourself or pack your bags and go home.

[tinmenace]

"God" is a term we all define for ourselves. Are there powerful entities, spirits, life-forms, or aliens that call themselves gods? Probably. Are there entities that exist because our belief gave them some form of existence? Possibly. Have they shown themselves to give a flying fuck about anything outside of themselves? Not really.

So actually it's both of the things you say... many of them don't exist, many may be something else. But I've never encountered one without some history of bloodshed, and the Pagan types I know who supposedly communicate with such beings have never received any kind of warning or even concern for what's going on in the world. The ones that may or do exist exist only for worship and nothing else.

If you put your faith in gods, you put your faith in utter failure. Have faith in yourself or pack your bags and go home.

Right, we're all on our own individual paths, and hopefully we are able to interpret things for ourself as we go. I was just interested in how you define "gods". It just sounded like you were referring to specific gods, and I wasn't sure if you were being flippant.

[tinmenace]

What I want to know is:

Was the occult invented by the Reptilians, or is there MORE to it than that?

My theory is that people need to be careful what they leave themselves open to. You wouldn't leave the back door open to strangers.

However, the occult stuff might simply be a science, it might be that it is not what you have, but how you use it applies;)

Whether or not God exists, depends on your definition of God. The Gods in the scriptures were the alien manipulators, but it doesn't mean that God does not exist, if your definition of God is Infinite Love.

Spiritual paths such as Buddhism are good, because they teach you to go within to find the truth.

The power of magick is within each and every one of us. It's the intent of the user that determines the nature and outcome of the craft. So, I suppose it all depends on what's really going on inside of us.

I think the institutionalization of these things, the control and implemented hierarchy is what corrupts it.

[revolution 9]

Right, we're all on our own individual paths, and hopefully we are able to interpret things for ourself as we go. I was just interested in how you define "gods". It just sounded like you were referring to specific gods, and I wasn't sure if you were being flippant.

Nah, not any specific god or set of gods. Just in general. I asked one Pagan friend why the gods weren't warning people or giving them a solution to the NWO, and was told "they seem to think they ARE the solution." If that's their viewpoint, why worship them? To hell with gods.

[synergy777]

http://www.rense.com/general80/osi.htm

Clintons Satanic Display - Upside
Down Cross, Stars, Osiris Logo
From Henry Makow, PhD
1-26-8

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7135/clintonsignsjo4.jpg//

[tinmenace]

I like the way her arm covers the "H" in her name. Now she's 'Ill-ary.

Appropriate. :D

What is up with that flag? Wow, that is remarkable.

[celtic isis]

http://www.rense.com/general80/osi.htm

Clintons Satanic Display - Upside
Down Cross, Stars, Osiris Logo
From Henry Makow, PhD
1-26-8

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/7135/clintonsignsjo4.jpg//

little angelic chelsea eh...now that's interesting, an inverted cross...wow at least her face reflects how damn ugly she is inside lol :eek::D

[eternal_spirit]

women freemasons
FALKIRK CHAPTER No.35
ORDER OF THE EASTERN STAR
STIRLING, WEST LOTHIAN & CLACKMANNAN DISTRICTON THE ROLL OF THE SUPREME GRAND CHAPTER OF SCOTLAND
http://www.s204042756.websitehome.co.uk/images/scots_stargif.gif

http://www.badbishops.com/gra/church_of_satan-emblem.jpg

[thesignsman]

Not sure if anyone has seen this one. the "moto" sign which is a road side eating establishment in the UK

http://www.moto-way.com/top_logo.gif

note the pentagram with the crown on top.................

[lumukanda]

little angelic chelsea eh...now that's interesting, an inverted cross...wow at least her face reflects how damn ugly she is inside lol :eek::D

but is the upside down cross a satanic symbol, or more specifically is it neccesarily evil?
in order for the it be a symbol of evil, firstly it must be empowered as such, secondly, it would make the right way up cross the symbol for good, but many of us believe that that the religion that empowers that cross as a symbol for good is in fact evil, so does that cross out the evilness of the upside down cross?
i heard that when christianity was brought to the nordic countries, the natives would wear a cross when the authorities were watching, but when they weren't, they turned it upside down, because it symbolised thor's hammer and was more in line with their indigenous beliefs.
my girlfriend wears one, and she's so far from evil it's not even funny.

[thelucifer]

US 1837 Great Star Flag


http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/us-1837ggreatstarflag.gif

[celtic isis]

but is the upside down cross a satanic symbol, or more specifically is it neccesarily evil?
in order for the it be a symbol of evil, firstly it must be empowered as such, secondly, it would make the right way up cross the symbol for good, but many of us believe that that the religion that empowers that cross as a symbol for good is in fact evil, so does that cross out the evilness of the upside down cross?
i heard that when christianity was brought to the nordic countries, the natives would wear a cross when the authorities were watching, but when they weren't, they turned it upside down, because it symbolised thor's hammer and was more in line with their indigenous beliefs.
my girlfriend wears one, and she's so far from evil it's not even funny.

interesting lumukanda...i would've thought that to wear an inverted cross would be "evil" because to invert a positive symbol (the cross itself from its ancient not religious origin) is to enforce the negative energies of that symbol...for example, the cross has nothing to do with "religion"...is a symbol as old as the hills, a symbol of the principles of the universe and of nature, the four seasons, the four elements (earth, fire, wind, water) the solar cross, the cross the SUN is crucified on each winter...it was a symbol reflecting the path of the sun through the zodiac amongst other things...the celtic cross has nothing to do with religion, it was a symbol reflecting the understanding of the ancients...christianity just stole it after as its own emblem.

So i feel it's negative, and why do they turn it upside down anyway? What's the purpose of the pope having it upside down, and why does little sprog toad chelsea wear it upside down? They're loyal to something else...i would never wear a cross upside down, it feels wrong to me...
i had never heard about the nordics doing that, that's clever :) is your girlfriend nordic? :)

[thetonic]

interesting lumukanda...i would've thought that to wear an inverted cross would be "evil" because to invert a positive symbol (the cross itself from its ancient not religious origin) is to enforce the negative energies of that symbol...for example, the cross has nothing to do with "religion"...is a symbol as old as the hills, a symbol of the principles of the universe and of nature, the four seasons, the four elements (earth, fire, wind, water) the solar cross, the cross the SUN is crucified on each winter...it was a symbol reflecting the path of the sun through the zodiac amongst other things...the celtic cross has nothing to do with religion, it was a symbol reflecting the understanding of the ancients...christianity just stole it after as its own emblem.

So i feel it's negative, and why do they turn it upside down anyway? What's the purpose of the pope having it upside down, and why does little sprog toad chelsea wear it upside down? They're loyal to something else...i would never wear a cross upside down, it feels wrong to me...
i had never heard about the nordics doing that, that's clever :) is your girlfriend nordic? :)

The cross has always been an occult symbol used by satanic worshipers , it was never meant to be a "good' symbol .. It is a symbol of the sun, and as far as christianity goes, it is a symbol of death.

[thelucifer]

The cross is also nature worship in that the vertical bar/shaft is the male part and the cross bar is the female part.

[thelucifer]

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/gunsE.jpg

[ericdubay]

I see this sticky is about Pentagrams and Stars. You may be interested in my Numerology post about the number 5:

http://www.atlanteanconspiracy.com/search/label/Numerology

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

[thetonic]

Not sure if been posted before...

http://theallseeingeye.tv/original%20flag.jpg

The Original American Flag

complete with all seeing eye and seven stars ...:eek:

[eternal_spirit]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/8310/pyramidmasonqp1.gif each point has a letter the letters spell Mason.

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7894/003001c8df8bcb35d49053ayt5.jpg << Don't know where it's from

[paradox]

Maybe tinny can figure this out. I've been wondering about
the new Bank of America logo that they started using recently.

I can't quite get what they're doing symbol-wise.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40868000/jpg/_40868941_bank_story_ap.jpg

I know that square tipped up on one corner is an occult symbol
but I have the feeling there's more going on with this logo than
I have figured out.

Any ideas?

graflok
#
It looks like a hybred reptilian/human

The bottom strips are the mouth

the left blue eye is human and thr right red lines are reptilian symbolising hybreds running the bank.

this has been done so mnay times now in media.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blast/showcase/submitted/images/gallery/11980119861333646072_1.jpg

http://ziongates.com/catalog/images/000_0272.JPG

http://www.stargods.org/StudyOfReptiliansBush.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30074500&id=1156947895

[ericdubay]

The Bank of America logo is 3 - 11's. 3x11=33 like the 33 degrees of Freemasonry. The United Nations logo encodes the same number by dividing the world into 33 sections.

~Eric
www.atlanteanconspiracy.com

[joebullon]

Pentagram in Regents Park London;

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBC2QsULEQ

[knut]

As many others I have recently seen Zeitgeist Addendum and learned about something called the Venus Project.

Why is it called the Venus http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/VenusPentagram.jpg Project? It is almost funny as many other projects in social enginering share this symbol.
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/586px-Label_svg.jpghttp://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/C15751812_thumb.jpghttp://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/redblackstar_icon_med.jpghttp://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/china-flag.jpghttp://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/bardo-notes/untitled-1.jpgThese projects also wanted to abolish money and wage slavery. So do I, but I dont want it to, or belive it could happend, trough social enginering. So what symbol should I choose then?

[amen_hotep]

hi there, new to this,how do i upload photo from my computer?

[tien an]

[QUOTE=tinmenace;26728]Wow! I never knew that. Isn't it interesting that we see the same rules applied to athletes today? Isn't there a standing rule for Olympians about abstaining from sex before the games? I'll have to look into it, but I know I've heard about this before. Thanks for the input....and by the way....



Boxers, from amateur to professional are discouraged from sexual intercourse for about three days before a bout.

BTW Excellent discussion, all of you. Thank you very much.

[dawnismygoddess]

Maybe tinny can figure this out. I've been wondering about
the new Bank of America logo that they started using recently.

I can't quite get what they're doing symbol-wise.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40868000/jpg/_40868941_bank_story_ap.jpg

I know that square tipped up on one corner is an occult symbol
but I have the feeling there's more going on with this logo than
I have figured out.

Any ideas?

graflok



Bank of America logo (picture I took):
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/BoAcrop2.jpg
^ This logo is full of symbolism.


1. It is 3 number 11's which = 33. (33 is one of the master numbers, and also a most important number in both Masonry and the occult)

2. Each 11 can also represent Jachin & Boaz.

3. The overall shape of the logo is that of the 47th Problem of Euclid, so beloved by Masons.

4. The two red "11's" represent the foot pattern that a Mason stands in. Note, how the blue 11 is not flush to the edges of the two red 11's - demonstrating this point.


http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/Brother_George_7.jpg


http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/Brother_Georgefeet.jpg

[astrochicken]

Next time anyone is in Hannover, Germany.

This church (the marktkirche/market church) is about 5 minutes from the main railway station (the hauptbahnhof)

Note the inverse pentagram on the one side
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/5163/astrochickenhannovermarzw1.th.jpg (http://img91.imageshack.us/my.php?image=astrochickenhannovermarzw1.jpg)


and the zionist's star of magan on the other side.

http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/4858/astrochickenhannovermarls1.th.jpg (http://img253.imageshack.us/my.php?image=astrochickenhannovermarls1.jpg)


I'd bet there's a room in the cellar under the altar riddled with old bones.

[dawnismygoddess]

Wow, Europe has it really bad, doesn't it? An inverted pentagram just out in the open like that?


Note: the Rooster symbolism:
http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/jskflsdf.jpg


http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/Roostertop.jpg


http://i393.photobucket.com/albums/pp14/Inverted_Heptagram_Star/Masonrooster2.jpg


Here is a LINK (http://wikicompany.org/wiki/911:Occult_symbolism_II#Rooster) with more images/data

[astrochicken]

Wow, Europe has it really bad, doesn't it? An inverted pentagram just out in the open like that?


Not really... s'just been around longer. ;)

That specific church, i believe, or at least that specific point on the earth grid got it's first mention in the early 13th century.

[thetonic]

Not really... s'just been around longer. ;)

That specific church, i believe, or at least that specific point on the earth grid got it's first mention in the early 13th century.

yep .. that one there sitting on a very special place for 'them'... most definitely some catacombs/altars beneath it

[celtic isis]

Wow, Europe has it really bad, doesn't it? An inverted pentagram just out in the open like that?


We have inverted pentagrams shamelessy displayed in a cathedral here in france, 2 big black ones, i'll take a pic this weekend if i can :) also has a huge masonic like altar in it too, the same cathedral :eek: And it's tucked away in a dark alcove part of the cathedral too...sneaky ;)

Actually there's a another cathedral i just remember where on a kneeling seat there is an inverted pentagram and skull and bones symbolism on it too!!!

omg i have to go on a scavenger hunt soon!!

[dawnismygoddess]

Please do, I want to see them!

[celtic isis]

Please do, I want to see them!

will do :)

[mistress_medusa]

It seems that we are looking at/participating in one big spell! It won't work without our participation, or focusing of energy. Anytime they can get vast numbers of people to concentrate in an area near a vortex point of energy point, they have created some just like the ancients, you could utilize it. Think about all of the places around the world that sit on a vortex point where thousands of people come regularly. Then, there are symbols of penises and vaginas everywhere that it is triggering a subconcious stimulation. The fact that we are so sexually repressed as a species worldwide, when we grab a coke bottle, in the form of a woman's body or penis (which ever one you like) or look at an obelisk or solar window with a penis ejaculating, it triggers a sort of build up of energy or a future response of this energy. All energy has to manifest as something 'out here' in the physical, because ALL is energy that manifest. Thoughts are energy manifested, and ALL things are made up of thoughts. Thoughts=energy! WHen a person gets into an argument with someone, and they have stored up alot of negative energy, if they do not release it it will literally kill them on the inside. You have to make someone else mad, or get it out of your body or you will be pissed off and possibly piss someone else off just by resonance. You could be so mad that you might yell or break something, cause guess what, all energy has to manifest in some way! The reason that so many homes and businesses have solar windows because of the major secret...The solar window is really a penis ejaculating, look:
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/childrenssun.jpg

The shaft of the penis is really the doorway, with the tip being the top part of the window above the actual doorway. The "rays" of what appears to be one sun, on a higher level of occult knowledge is really sperm occuring during orgasm.


This thread was a really interesting read. I was just explaining it to my girlfriend and showed her this example: http://srv-londonimages-3.londontown.com/2006/May/AU491810_429long.jpg

she laughed and said "what about the white house?"

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51P78T9NP3L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[btnh47]

I was watching an Usher music video from 1997 titled "My Way (Click to watch)" and this caught my attention..

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6220/usherts0.jpg


is this representing the Illuminati eye or just a coincidence?

[dawnismygoddess]

Nice find. That reminds of this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v649/InvertedRedPentagram/clockwork_orange-poster1.jpg

[mountain]

Check out this site's logo..

http://www.starpulse.com/

[dawnismygoddess]

Yeah, an inverted pentagram.

[celtic isis]

I can't remember if this is the thread i was meant to post these on or not lol but anyway, here you go dawn ;)

I have more of the cathedral with the obelisk facing directly opposite it but they're on my other cam and i haven't uploaded them yet! :o

http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/3379/snc00034kb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/snc00034kb7.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img6/snc00034kb7.jpg/1/)

Inverted pentagram - there is another on the opposite facing column too. It was so dark we could barely capture it on film.


http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3897/snc00038qa4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/snc00038qa4.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img519/snc00038qa4.jpg/1/)


This strange "altar" hidden well in an unlit corner at the far left of the cathedral, round a corner, the same side as the inverted pentagrams...

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2038/snc00042df6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/snc00042df6.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img519/snc00042df6.jpg/1/)


What are inverted pentagrams, a satanic symol, doing in catholic cathedrals???!!

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4402/snc00046qr5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/snc00046qr5.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img519/snc00046qr5.jpg/1/)

Outside of cathedral St Raparate, i'll upload the obelisk (sun pillar) with "catholic" (pagan) prayers/quotes engraved on it later. BTW that's a BELL TOWER under maintenance beside the cathedral!! So that makes 2 obelisks in the same area!!!

Here's more info on that particular cathedral and you can see the bell tower:

Nice Cathedral - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nice Cathedral (Cathédrale Sainte-Réparate de Nice) is a Roman Catholic cathedral in the city of Nice, France. It is the seat of the Bishop of Nice. It is dedicated to Saint Reparata, the patron saint of Nice and has a Boisseau organ.

AH HAAAAA!!! Well i guess we know who the bishop works for given that secret altar!

The Boisseau family was a 20th century French family of organ makers.

[celtic isis]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6306/dsc00327mx4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/dsc00327mx4.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/dsc00327mx4.jpg/1/)


The other hallway leading up to the dodgy second altar i posted previously...and the CHECKERBOARD FLOOR...



http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/4218/dsc00328ae3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/dsc00328ae3.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img525/dsc00328ae3.jpg/1/)

Class eh, people begging outside should go inside and ask God for a few quid!

the bones of St Victor...still pretty morbid if you ask me!



http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/5713/snc00077jg9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/snc00077jg9.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img525/snc00077jg9.jpg/1/)
Templars were here...
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/3299/snc00080sk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/snc00080sk2.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/snc00080sk2.jpg/1/)

[celtic isis]

Point within a circle...SUN symbolism

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/5746/snc00084cz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/snc00084cz2.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img504/snc00084cz2.jpg/1/)

The cathedral with its phallus obelisk opposite...both more than likelt built upon energy points/lines...

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/487/dsc00223vi6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/dsc00223vi6.jpg/1/w640.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img27/dsc00223vi6.jpg/1/)

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/9233/dsc00224rz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/dsc00224rz1.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img230/dsc00224rz1.jpg/1/)

And this building up the same street...

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9483/dsc00225ev5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/dsc00225ev5.jpg/1/w480.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img25/dsc00225ev5.jpg/1/)

[dawnismygoddess]

I can't remember if this is the thread i was meant to post these on or not lol but anyway, here you go dawn ;)

Thanks for taking the time, isis.

It looks like the Catholics had the all seeing eye b4 the masons did.

[celtic isis]

Thanks for taking the time, isis.

It looks like the Catholics had the all seeing eye b4 the masons did.

yeah this is a funny thing the all seeing eye...cause people say it means god, i mean, the people who actually know of the symbol, of which there ar every few lol

You know it doesn't mean god though, look at the state of it, your brain knows it's a bad symbol. I mean not a "bad" symbol, it could mean the eye is watching over you for your protection, but of course we know it is the eye of the illuminated ones, and not only them but the force that is above them. It means the "architect of the universe", lucifer, worship of knowledge, the all knowing all seeing eye.

The fact that this second altar is hidden down a hall alongside the main illuminated altar, it just shows this isn't something they want people to see, in the 4 years i've visited this cathedral this part have never been lit up ever, and there are passageways going either side of the altar. And it is so dark, the flash makes it look lighter in the pics but it is so dark you can't make out fully what it is, those who dare to venture down.

It's just bizarre!! And when you're there you feel bad waves...

This is the symbol of the "illuminati" full stop. The ones that are the creators and rulers of our little world here, of all our systems, religions, etc and the same all seeing eye in the pyramid is the emblem of their work, their trademark lol

[emerald]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/13/Aurora_detail_Mayan_Archit.JPG

As wiki says: "Detail of unusual Mayan revival motif on the Old Elk's Building, the building currently houses the Aurora Election Commission". City of AURORA, ILLINOIS

[gaias child]

Pentagram in Regents Park London;

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=sPBC2QsULEQ

Video doesn't work is there another link, I didn't know about regents park