Kibbo Kift Kin

[chicken]

I used to belong to the Woodcraft folk as a child, from about nine to about eleven years, a relatively short time. I lived in South London then....

I discover that the Woodcraft folk is connected to the peace movement, and the Labour Party, plus other movements or groups.

One group where it said that the Woodcraft Folk stems from is the Kibbo Kift Kin

The Kibbo Kift Kindred "was based on a romanticised Saxonism mixed with Native American Shamanism, a term Hargrave used some 30 years before Mircia Eliade supposedly invented it. The Kift respected four annual festivals with Saxon names, and was developed specifically to bring city dwellers back to nature."

The Kibbo Kift Kin "explored concepts familiar to us now, such as totemism, and was modelled on, amongst others, the Rosicrucians. The document setting out the Kibbo Kift principles, the Confession of the Kibbo Kift, was deliberately named after the 'Confession of the Brotherhood of the Rosy Cross', one of the two manifestos of the Rosicrucians."

The Confession of the Kibbo Kift was reviewed by the New Age periodical. The review stressed that there was no mention of the Rosicrucians, but praised Hargrave for drawing "something useful from St Paul, Mme Blavatsky, Charlie Chaplin, Cromwell, Lao Tze, Nietzsche, Noah and Tolstoy."

It said that also there were links with transcedental meditation? and the Maharashi

A whole section of MI5, known as F Branch, was set up, devoted solely to "domestic subversion". Among the "targets" monitored by F Branch were the Woodcraft Folk (the children's' section of the Co-operative Movement), hunt saboteurs and an entire class studying Marxism and Literature at Gwent College of Further Education.

I found this here last night the site worked well this morning I cannot access it, so resorted to cache

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:3IMr_UkulcMJ:www.hackitectura.net/wiki/phpwiki-1.3.3/index.php/%255BHistory%2520of%2520M15+Mi5%2Bwoodcraft+folk&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=uk

What does any body else know about this? This might explain something possibly about my targetting...its a long shot?

chicken

[mike martin]

This is what I could find:

http://www.woodcraft.org.uk/aboutus/who.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodcraft_Folk

http://www.cambridge-woodcraft.org.uk/

http://www.lockerbrook.org.uk/wcf/wcf.htm

http://www.woodcraft.org.uk/aboutus/

Mike

[chicken]

tried those but this is not all that is out there.....I remember seeing some connection with the order of woodcraft chivelry and the kibbo kift kin were connected to aleister crowley which has connections with masonry

chicken

[danielson23uk]

tried those but this is not all that is out there.....I remember seeing some connection with the order of woodcraft chivelry and the kibbo kift kin were connected to aleister crowley which has connections with masonry

chicken
Aleister Crowley's connection with Freemasonry is a turbulent one Chicken so take care there. The only things I can suggest are no where near as close to Mike's offerings. Forresters or the Operative Masons.

[chicken]

thanks for that when you say that Aleister Crowleys connections turbulant would you be so kind to explain.

Thanks:)

AND...forresters and Operative Masons who and what are they?

Obviously need educating.....:D

Chicken

[mike martin]

thanks for that when you say that Aleister Crowleys connections turbulant would you be so kind to explain.
Crowley wasn't a real Mason as he found out when he tried to visit a London Lodge and was turned away as an imposter. I'm sure we've covered Crowley in one of the other topics already.

AND...forresters and Operative Masons who and what are they?

Obviously need educating

The operative Masons is what we call the original medieval Stone Masons' Guilds that Freemasonry evolved from, this is because we are speculative Masons not operative.

The Foresters used to come in several varieties. The Friendly Society http://www.forestersfriendlysociety.co.uk/live/aboutus/ourhistory.php and the Catholic version: http://www.catholicforester.com/ and there was a third form called the Independent Order of Foresters who were what we call quasi-Masonic as they copied elements of Freemasonry (Lodges, regalia etc) I don't think this one has survived in Britain but there are some in the US and Canada.

Mike

[chicken]

Independent Order of Foresters who were what we call quasi-Masonic as they copied elements of Freemasonry (Lodges, regalia etc) I don't think this one has survived in Britain but there are some in the US and Canada.

My father was in the Independent Order of Foresters...so he was a mason then....so does that make me part of the Eastern Star?

IOF is alive in kicking in South London and Surrey apparently...yes it was Canadian.

Paid his subs for fifteen years.

chicken

[mike martin]

My father was in the Independent Order of Foresters...so he was a mason then....so does that make me part of the Eastern Star?

IOF is alive in kicking in South London and Surrey apparently...yes it was Canadian.

Paid his subs for fifteen years.

chicken

No I'm afraid he wasnt a Mason he was a Forester, no connection other than the copying.

Even if he was a Mason you wouldn't be a member of the OES without knowing, you have to join. However, we don't have it in England we have women Freemasons instead.

Mike