Concept of reality makes me feel sick

[magicmerlin]

Hi everyone.

Occasionally I go quite deep and think 'how is anything possible, how can literally anything 'be'. When I go deep I have to force myself out of this awareness because quite frankly I go from feeling 'pleased to be aware', to damn well 'freaking out and feeling sick'!

Originally surely there was nothing.....and yet therefore if there was nothing, how can anything ever be? I guess that the only answer is that nothing=everything, it just depends on your perception of nothing? We are nothing now, but also everything. They are the same thing. Anyone else get these feelings.

[hogans]

if im somewhere i dont really want to be, like in town, at work, at the bank or on a bus or whatever... i get fussy vision thinkin about what it is im really experiencing infront of me... makes me feel very light headed. when i first got to grips with the idea of how quantum particles only really take form when observed and that we decode frequencies in our brain to create the reality... i was close to passing out on the street, just seeing all the people was too much too conceive.

[siscid]

Wow I feel exactly the same!

As of lately, my questions seem to grow ever so deeper into it. When I do ask those questions I start to feel really weird and worried just as you do.

if im somewhere i dont really want to be, like in town, at work, at the bank or on a bus or whatever... i get fussy vision thinkin about what it is im really experiencing infront of me... makes me feel very light headed. when i first got to grips with the idea of how quantum particles only really take form when observed and that we decode frequencies in our brain to create the reality... i was close to passing out on the street, just seeing all the people was too much too conceive.

I get that as well! Especially in the supermarket. I feel like I'm drowning in a sea of unconsciousness. Colours start to blur and I feel really light and weird around it. It's starting to get really weird I must say..

[magicmerlin]

Glad I'm not alone. The only way I can get my head around it is to think that one's reality of 'nothing' is dependent on your point of view. For example....most people think of nothing as 'a void space' or 'blackness like when you close your eyes'. However, who says we're not nothing already and that blankness is actually everything. See what I mean? We are nothing but nothing is also everything.....an eternal riddle.

[zero1]

Hi everyone.

Occasionally I go quite deep and think 'how is anything possible, how can literally anything 'be'. When I go deep I have to force myself out of this awareness because quite frankly I go from feeling 'pleased to be aware', to damn well 'freaking out and feeling sick'!

Originally surely there was nothing.....and yet therefore if there was nothing, how can anything ever be? I guess that the only answer is that nothing=everything, it just depends on your perception of nothing? We are nothing now, but also everything. They are the same thing. Anyone else get these feelings.

Understand that POV. When you dismantle Reality in your mind, you see how false it really is. Feel as though you're caught between nothing and everything. But you're not: in many ways, its the end of desire you're experiencing. Good thing. ;)

[arela]

I think I'm feeling something like you guys describe, although to me its not really a distortion of reality, or cluttered pictures, colors and the rest of it. It's rather the overwhelming feeling I get having detached from my little "ego"-microcosmos. Being totally "out there" and part of the big picture unable to fully concieve it, getting (even for a split second) out of the "me-myself-and I" trip, isn't funny, it's even scary at times, but at the end of the day, when you "come back", the awareness that comes with this process, I agree with zero1, is a good thing.

I think this is something that happens to more and more people every day.

[zero1]

I think this is something that happens to more and more people every day.

Yes, more and more. :cool:

[urbancommando]

Concepts of existence astonish! Does reality reside within me? Significance is questionable.

Reality and why we are even here is an extremely difficult question for us all.

I really do my head in somedays, good to see that im not the only one thinking like that.

Peace

[jambolina62]

Hi everyone.

Occasionally I go quite deep and think 'how is anything possible, how can literally anything 'be'. When I go deep I have to force myself out of this awareness because quite frankly I go from feeling 'pleased to be aware', to damn well 'freaking out and feeling sick'!

Originally surely there was nothing.....and yet therefore if there was nothing, how can anything ever be? I guess that the only answer is that nothing=everything, it just depends on your perception of nothing? We are nothing now, but also everything. They are the same thing. Anyone else get these feelings.

Yes.

This reality is an illusion, created by our will to live (our mind), our pre occupation with survival (paying the bills).

Through meditation, I detach myself from the physical. I become nothing, part of The One.
Everything does equal Nothing.

[kblood]

Been there done that, and keep doing it :) Its very fascinating I think. It is a bit scary to think about all the things that might be possibel.

What I like to keep in mind is that although it might not seem it, then on a balance of good and evil, good always is the most powerfull. Heck evil isnt even natural, its just the biproduct of goodness and love. Thats how I see it anyway.

[2013]

Ive had this conversation with Friends and adults from early in life .My mate who was about 8 at the time said God made everything so i said who made him then .There must of been a time when there was nothing and something came from it .So who made who .I stopped when he started shouting and holding his head .Since then i ve had this conversation with others .My religion teacher was also our history teacher and i used to question him on why if god made man in his image and we evolved from apes as he taught in history wasn't got an ape , he used to get angry and never attempted to answer .I also tried the nothing creating something , not being possible how can we be yet we feel we are .If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it will it make a sound ? Apparently the answer to that is no as sound waves carried on air picked up by the ear enable us to hear so no one to hear means no sound .Nothing is something it is NO thing .At college i tried the prove to me that anything you dont directly experience exists .Example the wall behind you or your home or family now .The answer was to turn around or phone and speak to them , but that proves nothing as it is only a voice on the phone or the wall in front now becomes the wall behind , no use asking me if its there i cant prove it for you .Looking in mirror over your shoulder only proves your direct experience of it .The voice on the phone could verify the existence of the house family etc but again .You can See i have thought long about this one , a couple of psychiatrists couldn't answer it either , good thread thanks for posting .:D

[kblood]

When a tree falls and noone is there, does it make a sound?

That is a good question, and science today seems to actually find that maybe it doesnt. At least it seems our mind either knows the future and reacts to something too soon, or it is part of creating what we see.

When I was a wee kid, I had a toy car, and maybe I thought about this. So I buried the car in some mud, and then after a some days (felt like a year, maybe it was, but I was a kid), I digged up the car. I actually imagined that I was able to find the car only because I knew it was there, that I was the reason that it came back into being.

I examined the car which was the same, just with some dirt on it :) So I cleaned it up. The other kids didnt understand my experiment though. Maybe it isnt kindergarden stuff. Hmmm... it isnt called kindergarden in english is it? I know the word is german but has used it in english for a while...

Still, I wasnt fully satisfied with the experiment. I knew it didnt prove anything, and needed a better way to test it. Seems scientists actually have found a way to test it :)

http://www.whatthebleep.com/

It is also on youtube and google video I think. I hope to get it on DVD some day.

[zero1]

When a tree falls and noone is there, does it make a sound?

The answer is "Presence". ;)

[critical_analysis]

Originally surely there was nothing.....
Why so? Personally I currently believe there has always been everything. I think this is a hard concept for us to grasp since as humans in some ways we understand everything to have a beginning and an end. Though when you really look at the world we know there is never a true beginning or end to anything, just changes of state.

[aerosteelzero]

I agree with you critical analysis

Time is a construction in order to experience. Outside of our physical reality there is just existence. God has always been and always be. My friend once said that God is 'pure existence'. I like this term so I am sharing it. The "Who made God?" question doesn't phase me because of my understanding of infinite eternity. No one can make something that has always been there and will always exist forever. I only hope more people realize this in the future.

peace.

[kblood]

Why so? Personally I currently believe there has always been everything. I think this is a hard concept for us to grasp since as humans in some ways we understand everything to have a beginning and an end. Though when you really look at the world we know there is never a true beginning or end to anything, just changes of state.
Oh yes. There cannot have been a beginning of time, just like there cannot be an end of time. All ends are beginnings and all beginnings are ends, into the infinite.

[cruise4]

Going from a belief in matter to a belief in energy initially felt like I had 'lost' something. But what is, IS... remains nontheless, regardless of construct type. I think this 'difficulty' is, at least in part, a result of the controllers delusions they perpetuate on us.

[danster82]

I sort of feel an intutive understanding of how nothing = everything
but logicaly and analyticals nothing = everything doesnt seem right because how can a thought come from nothing when theres nothing to have a thought about but more improtantly nothing to think the thought.

And yet after this seemingly illogical reasoning that somting can come from nothing we are "IS"

Thats when you get the teaching of God simply IS and WAS and always will BE the beggining and the ending.

[red_ram]

The thing that gets me is, how much of 'reality' is shared and how much is our own individual interpretation?

[kblood]

The thing that gets me is, how much of 'reality' is shared and how much is our own individual interpretation?

Depends I think. We can broaden our conciousness. Oneness is feeling the conciousness around us, in an intuitive way. It can also be feeling everything at once. I believe we could try feeling everything at once, going from being our own self, and out tapping into the conciousness of our planet, solar system or galaxy. While doing this we should be able to get the feeling of where it is going, and maybe influence it. I dont see what kind of influence we could do on it, unless we really understood these greater beings of conciousness, but in theory anyway.

The way I see that we never had a beginning or an end is that our Universe can be in another Universe. And in this Universe there could be millions of other universes that has their singularity point in this Universe. Time is not as simple as we think, or that is a theory of mine anyway. Some of these Universes might in some way be in the past compared to our Universe. If our Universe even has an end, then our Universe might at the same time have its beginning somewhere else in another Universe. Maybe our Universe doesnt play out the exact same way each time, but it still has a loop that will keep being there. A loop that is there naturally.

The reason I believe this is that time doesnt exist. The past, present and future is all one the way our spirit sees it. So the spirit already knows what has happened, and what is likely to happen in the future, if we know how to "ask" it. I dont believe our future is set in stone, so I dont bother myself with looking to much into the future, I try to shape it instead, although that might be easier knowing the future.

Mindboggling concepts, but there is an ocean of possiblities for us, if we just dare try them out. I try to live a simple life untill I figure out what I really want, and what I hope for the future to be. Its important to me, to have an image or vision of what I want to future to be, for me and others, to be able to shape it. For it to become possible, I will later in my life have to find others with a similar vision or who are willing to share mine.

[demiurge]

nothing and everything are still in the area of duality and therefore there are allways questions there where no definite answer is found. true conciousness is not in this reality.