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astral_girl
27-03-2008, 09:02 PM
Dr Andrew Wakefield, the lead author of a controversial study that provoked a scare over the safety of the MMR vaccine, is a hugely divisive figure.

To his supporters he is a champion taking on a "Stalinist" medical establishment. To his critics he is a dangerous maverick whose claims have provoked unnecessary panic among millions of parents and risked outbreaks of three diseases that remain potential killers.

Wakefield, a surgeon who became a gut expert, first came to public attention in 1998 when he co-authored a study published in the Lancet medical journal. It suggested there was a possible link between rising rates of autism and a bowel disorder in children and the triple measles, mumps and rubella vaccine.

Speaking at a press conference at the launch of the paper, Wakefield said he believed the combination of the three vaccines might overload the body's immune system, leading children to develop the bowel disorder, Crohn's disease, linked to autism. He called for single vaccines to be provided for the three diseases because there were "sufficient anxieties" over the safety of the MMR jab - given to babies at 12-15 months.

His comments, and the subsequent media furore, led to a sharp drop in the number of children vaccinated against measles, mumps and rubella in 1989. Some parents went private to pay for single jabs for their children; others rejected the vaccination altogether.

Prior to Wakefield's warning, 91.5% of children in England had the MMR jab by the time they turned two. After the research came out, immunisation rates fell below 80%.

The take-up has increased, to 85% last year, but the World Health Organisation says 95% is necessary to ensure "herd immunity". So there are still not enough people vaccinated to ensure they neither get the illnesses nor pass them on to others. There were 971 cases of measles in England and Wales last year.

The drop in immunisation rates provoked the chief medical officer for England, Sir Liam Donaldson, the then health secretary, and Tony Blair, who was prime minister, to criticise Wakefield.

In 2001 he resigned from his £50,000-a-year NHS post at the Royal Free hospital, London, after 14 years in the job. This came a month after he was made a fellow of the Royal College of Pathologists in recognition of his research. A statement from the hospital said his research was "no longer in line with the department of medicine's research strategy and he left the university by mutual agreement".

In 2004 it emerged that Wakefield was being paid by lawyers acting for parents who thought their children might have been damaged by the vaccine. The editor of the Lancet, Richard Horton, said he would not have published the controversial report had he been aware of this "fatal conflict of interest".

Wakefield now lives in the US, where he is the executive director of research at Thoughtful House, a non-profit school and clinic in Austin, Texas, that treats children with autism from across the world. He has returned to the UK to defend himself against charges of serious professional misconduct at the General Medical Council (GMC). He begins giving his evidence today and is expected to be cross-examined over four or five days.

The GMC's fitness to practise hearing has heard allegations that Wakefield and the co-authors of the 1998 paper, professors John Walker-Smith and Simon Murch, acted unethically while carrying out their research. They are also accused of being dishonest and irresponsible in dealings with the Lancet. If the doctors are found guilty, they could be struck off the medical register and barred from practising medicine in the UK.

Ten of the authors of the Lancet paper spoke out against Wakefield by issuing a partial retraction of the study's findings. Prof Murch said "there is now unequivocal evidence that MMR is not a risk factor for autism". Several major studies in recent years have also concluded there is no link between MMR and autism in children and that the triple jab is not dangerous.

But Wakefield continues to raise concerns about the safety of the vaccine. In a recent interview with the Observer newspaper, he said: "I've done what I've done because my motivation is the suffering of children I've seen and the determination of devoted, articulate, rational parents to find out why part of them has been destroyed, why their child has been ruined.

"I can't tell you that we know that the MMR vaccine causes autism. But the Department of Health can tell you with 100% certainty that it doesn't, and they believe that, and that concerns me greatly."

His supporters have vowed to help clear his name and more than 7,000 signatures have been collected in an online petition.

The GMC inquiry is unlikely to resolve the rows about Wakefield's work. In a statement the regulatory body made clear its investigation would not assess the merits or safety of the MMR jab.

astral_girl
27-03-2008, 09:02 PM
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2008/mar/27/health.healthandwellbeing

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astral_girl
29-03-2008, 12:26 AM
any one got any views on dr wakefield?
it seems to me -that the one person who dare mention anything about the goverments vaccine programe for infants in the uk...........gets shot down rather quickly..........



extract from the link........thur 27th march 2008

But Wakefield continues to raise concerns about the safety of the vaccine. In a recent interview with the Observer newspaper, he said: "I've done what I've done because my motivation is the suffering of children I've seen and the determination of devoted, articulate, rational parents to find out why part of them has been destroyed, why their child has been ruined.

"I can't tell you that we know that the MMR vaccine causes autism. But the Department of Health can tell you with 100% certainty that it doesn't, and they believe that, and that concerns me greatly."

His supporters have vowed to help clear his name and more than 7,000 signatures have been collected in an online petition.

The GMC inquiry is unlikely to resolve the rows about Wakefield's work. In a statement the regulatory body made clear its investigation would not assess the merits or safety of the MMR jab.





i feel that if you or your family have autism in your family -more should be done by the health proffesionals to investigate this-before going ahead with vaccination/without even asking or going into your family background..........lets face it they go into your background if your about to have an operation.....but nothing is asked when you infant is took into the drs for injections....apart from is the baby feeling well today?-please correct me if this was not the case with you -but it certainly was with me and my son!!!


:confused:i was trying to look it up on the net but couldnt find exact dates
if and when they stopped using thimerosal in vaccinations? anybody know?

live
29-03-2008, 01:08 AM
My son has been suffering from crohns disease for 14 years of his life. I tried to sue the government due to MMR but I did not have enough medical evidence. My doctor was very nasty when I requested his batch number for the injection.
My son is now 19 and we get no help whatsoever with his medication etc. I am very annoyed about this matter and I think Dr Wakefield is doing a brilliant job. People really need to open their minds. Strangely enough when my son was moving to adult hospital from childrens I asked his consultant who was a very caring man, DID MY SON GET CROHNS DUE TO THE MMR VACCINE, his reply was, I cant really answer that question!

loderlive
08-09-2008, 04:14 AM
He has returned to the UK to defend himself against charges of serious professional misconduct at the General Medical Council (GMC). If the doctors are found guilty, they could be struck off the medical register and barred from practising medicine in the UK.

If you rise up within it, you are subject to it. Whether you tell the truth or not.

healingisfreedom
31-01-2011, 02:22 AM
NaturalNews.com has just posted an article in which it is asserted that Wakefield has been cleared by the emergence of certain documents and testimonies by Prof Walker-Smith, and that Brian Deer and the BMJ have been exposed as frauds. Interesting reading.

http://www.naturalnews.com/031116_Dr_Andrew_Wakefield_British_Medical_Journal .html

Health freedom reporter Martin Walker has written a series of articles on this issue too:
http://www.whale.to/v/gmc_wakefield.html

winegums
31-01-2011, 04:06 AM
He seems to be implying that walker-smith, who co-authored Wakefield's paper, is an independent source. He's not, given that he was an author on both papers. Once again Mike Adams manages to completely misunderstand something quite basic.

mr_sirius_a
01-02-2011, 03:35 AM
My daughters Dr for her mmr was called Dr Baxter. :eek:

hoverfly
01-02-2011, 12:17 PM
Astra-girl:
"any one got any views on dr wakefield? "

Hi Astra-girl.


Have you noticed, there is a a thread on Dr Wakefield, under the Vaccinations/Medical Mafia Title ?

:)

oneofthemasses
01-02-2011, 02:46 PM
My son has been suffering from crohns disease for 14 years of his life. I tried to sue the government due to MMR but I did not have enough medical evidence. My doctor was very nasty when I requested his batch number for the injection.
My son is now 19 and we get no help whatsoever with his medication etc. I am very annoyed about this matter and I think Dr Wakefield is doing a brilliant job. People really need to open their minds. Strangely enough when my son was moving to adult hospital from childrens I asked his consultant who was a very caring man, DID MY SON GET CROHNS DUE TO THE MMR VACCINE, his reply was, I cant really answer that question!

The problem with vaccines, if you believe they are "effective" (relative term), is that they act as a stimulus on the immune system. Any doctor who denies this should not be practicing medicine. Sometimes (usually) these vaccines contain immune "boosters"/various adjuvents.

Even after you throw out the arguments against mercury, squalene (an adjuvent), specific fragments of specific viruses speicifed for the vaccine (which may or may not prime the immune system in the same way), and the method of vaccine administration (injection vs. a "natural" infection route), the most basic fact not publically told by mainstream medicine is that the vaccines stimulate the immune system to cause immunity...and like the viruses themselves, this can cause disease.

Let me explain. Autoimmune diseases like Crohns have been long suspected by mainstream medicine to be "triggered" or exacerbated by viral and/or bacterial infections. Although there are probably numerous factors involved for this chain reaction to occur (too many for this post), this is ACCEPTED belief (or at least possibility) by most doctors.

So I'm never quite sure why it seems like such a stretch for a doctor to admit that a vaccine (which stimulates the immune system in a manner similar to viral infection...which is the same argument used to prove vaccine efficacy and safety) MAY possibly trigger an autoimmune disease in those genetically prone to such a disease. It's really not a stretch, it's logical. In fact, there are many conventional studies that show it can happen, although it's "rare". This is probably because there are personal and genetic factors that don't translate well into mass group studies. Not everyone has the susceptibility for autoimmune disease. And also that most studies don't follow up long enough. But that doesn't make it untrue that these things occur, nor should they be downplayed. At least your doc said the truth...he didn't know. Most others automatically dismiss even the possibility.

Now, the question becomes, would that person have probably gotten the virus anyway and then got the autoimmune disease anyway from that? Perhaps. What are the chances the child will become exposed to the virus naturally? And would that have the same effect or not? Any doctor with a brain should probably realize that injecting a child prone to autoimmune disease (let's say they have a strong family history) with 30 vaccines by age 5 is probably not a smart idea. Especially if many of these diseases are not something that is likely to actually even affect the child much should they get the illness. Smallpox and Polio vaccines are one thing. But what about the massive vaccination schedules doled out like candy?

Most babies also have very low risk of Hep B, but many are automatically vaccinated shortly after birth. Why? Most kids don't have any serious issues with chicken pox, yet now they are vaccinated. Why children are given triple dose vaccines (MMR...*3* viruses in one shot!) along with a ridiculous immunization schedule is just nuts (my personal opinion). Healthy children are give the flu shot every year, alongside regular vaccines. It's overload. The immune system would never be onslaught like this in nature. It would usually never encounter 5 various infections at once, like some vaccine schedules.

(There is also the "hygeine hypothesis" which says that autoimmune and allergic diseases are on the rise because the immune system never "learns" or is not kept "busy" from fighting infections naturally, but that is yet another separate issue).

My point is that there is too much to simply write off vaccines as not playing ANY role in immune mediated diseases, but 99.999% of doctors do.

Doh.

blue2
01-02-2011, 03:27 PM
I know what one flu vaccine did to me within two weeks i had viral pneumonia, i was left in an extremely weakened state back in the eighties, unknown to me it caused my thyroid to become underactive,then came the bowel issues, the food allergies etc etc just from one flu vaccine i was never the same person.

My son had lots allergies after his baby vaccines. I can well see how triple vaccines to an immature immune system would wreak havoc, it's freaky to bombard babies in this way and puts me in mind of Hitler. I wonder if these days it is part of the depopulation programme as well as mega millions of profits for the hidden people behind it all Big Pharma so well protected. Fortunately i said to the GP at the time of my son's vaccines that i only wanted him to have one not any triples, due to his allergies and it was said in an innocent way in those days, GP agreed with me...thank god i did cos this aint no new phenomenen.