docmaturin
29-03-2007, 06:01 AM
http://www.harpers.org/sb-war-with-iran-1-1171385486.html
THIS IS A GREAT LINK AND A VERY GOOD ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH IRAN AND THE U.S.
--> NOTE: IT SAYS, REALISTICALLY I BELIEVE, THAT NO MATTER WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS THAT THE U.S. IS LIKELY TO FIGHT IRAQ. HERE IS THE SELLING POINTS I WANT TO ADD WITH IT:
1. There is a "fed up" stance between w/ "West" and Islamic Fundamentalists. If we topple the last bastion and serious threat to stability in the region, that will keep the rest in line so to speak.
2. Logistically and preparation wise--the "Coalition" is already there.
3. One more event like 9/11 or even half as big and elaborate as 9/11 would tilt many people over the edge (conspiracy or not is irrelevant, if "it" or anything like 9/11 happens again, on any scale, people will freak and be behind levelling Iran. At least enough for the shot-callers to justify doing it. Don't think Hillary wouldn't.). For those who are against war, even many of them will also be tired of "being tired" and would be more likely to up the stakes in order to end it.
4. Oil.
5. Other economic factors of being at war (Over paid contractors, a huge multi-billion dumping ground for government "gauranteed" contracts to private companys with bogus oversight and rampamt fraud waste and abuse.).
6. The media--even if legitimately reporting a war with Iran--they would fan the fires of paranoia and of people being "sick and tired of being sick and tired." Eventhough "being tired of it" is a bad reason to fight or not to fight, many people detached from it personally (most people) are sick of it.
HERE IS MY POINT. In light of North Korea quieting down, Europe having a union, the Americas going with a North American Union w/ constitution as Europe did (often over empowering them over "sovereign" countries), South America leveraging the last green patch of the earth in the name of economics, and Asia--to include China--becoming hooked on quality of living increases and the creature comforts of economics, THEN IRAN IS THE LAST REAL SQUEAKY WHEEL LEFT, AND THE OTHER "ANKLE BITERS" WILL DIE DOWN WHEN THEIR CHAMPION IS TURNED INTO A SCRAP HEAP LIKE IRAQ. IRAQ IN UPHEAVEL IS AN EXAMPLE, IRAQ AND IRAN BEING SET BACK YEARS WITHOUT OUR "HELP" WILL SCARE THE OTHERS WHO ARE OF EQUAL OR LESSER STRENGTH NATIONALLY, AS IRAQ AND IRAN WERE WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EAST. EVERYONE STILL STANDING WILL PLAY ALONG AND IF TERROR ATTACKS HAPPEN HERE AND THERE--OH WELL, MORE REASON TO MICRO-CHIP ALL PEOPLE FOR SECURITY REASONS.
I point this out not as "my philosophy" but what I see as going to happen in one way shape or form if you pay attention and "read the tea leaves" (so to speak) correctly.
THIS IS A GREAT LINK AND A VERY GOOD ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT IS GOING ON WITH IRAN AND THE U.S.
--> NOTE: IT SAYS, REALISTICALLY I BELIEVE, THAT NO MATTER WHO IS CALLING THE SHOTS THAT THE U.S. IS LIKELY TO FIGHT IRAQ. HERE IS THE SELLING POINTS I WANT TO ADD WITH IT:
1. There is a "fed up" stance between w/ "West" and Islamic Fundamentalists. If we topple the last bastion and serious threat to stability in the region, that will keep the rest in line so to speak.
2. Logistically and preparation wise--the "Coalition" is already there.
3. One more event like 9/11 or even half as big and elaborate as 9/11 would tilt many people over the edge (conspiracy or not is irrelevant, if "it" or anything like 9/11 happens again, on any scale, people will freak and be behind levelling Iran. At least enough for the shot-callers to justify doing it. Don't think Hillary wouldn't.). For those who are against war, even many of them will also be tired of "being tired" and would be more likely to up the stakes in order to end it.
4. Oil.
5. Other economic factors of being at war (Over paid contractors, a huge multi-billion dumping ground for government "gauranteed" contracts to private companys with bogus oversight and rampamt fraud waste and abuse.).
6. The media--even if legitimately reporting a war with Iran--they would fan the fires of paranoia and of people being "sick and tired of being sick and tired." Eventhough "being tired of it" is a bad reason to fight or not to fight, many people detached from it personally (most people) are sick of it.
HERE IS MY POINT. In light of North Korea quieting down, Europe having a union, the Americas going with a North American Union w/ constitution as Europe did (often over empowering them over "sovereign" countries), South America leveraging the last green patch of the earth in the name of economics, and Asia--to include China--becoming hooked on quality of living increases and the creature comforts of economics, THEN IRAN IS THE LAST REAL SQUEAKY WHEEL LEFT, AND THE OTHER "ANKLE BITERS" WILL DIE DOWN WHEN THEIR CHAMPION IS TURNED INTO A SCRAP HEAP LIKE IRAQ. IRAQ IN UPHEAVEL IS AN EXAMPLE, IRAQ AND IRAN BEING SET BACK YEARS WITHOUT OUR "HELP" WILL SCARE THE OTHERS WHO ARE OF EQUAL OR LESSER STRENGTH NATIONALLY, AS IRAQ AND IRAN WERE WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE REST OF THE MIDDLE EAST. EVERYONE STILL STANDING WILL PLAY ALONG AND IF TERROR ATTACKS HAPPEN HERE AND THERE--OH WELL, MORE REASON TO MICRO-CHIP ALL PEOPLE FOR SECURITY REASONS.
I point this out not as "my philosophy" but what I see as going to happen in one way shape or form if you pay attention and "read the tea leaves" (so to speak) correctly.