Occult Secrets of Jay Z, Kanye & Nas (Video)

[amar7]

Found that video, so I want to share with u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBnKjfqG-M&feature=related
I think there are actually Illuminati puppets in the HipHop industry aswell..what do you think?

[grannymoose]

you know i,ve seen him doing that hand signal many times, my eyes now see it clearer :O

[dzambas]

Found that video, so I want to share with u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX-xVN0xERk&feature=related

I think there are actually Illuminati puppets in the HipHop industry aswell..what do you think?

Most certainly, most certainly!!!

I was thinking about that for a long time, because I do listen to a Hip Hop a lot! And of course my favorite rapper of all times is Tupac, who officially was exposing those fucking bastards and their secrets! AND I somehow never wanted to listen to JAY Z nor NAS nor Kanye West, I mean besides that those two act like little kids, as you could see it clearly on EMA, but their lyrics are fucking BULLSHIT! except of course the NAS who is lyrically one of the BEST there is you have to admit that though, now I'm not sure he is in the mix, but it could be possible!

best regards!

[zero1]

You forgot the one about Eminem: M & M = Master Mason.

Oh, how they laugh...

Jay-Z, Nas, Diddy, Kanye...the music industry is an occult industry, don't you know?

Rock n' Roll is not different in that respect to Hip-Hop, as a quick perusal of any Smashing Pumpkins album will tell you.

Top to Bottom, A & R to exexutives: Masons gallore, and the rest (OTO, Skull and Bones etc).

Just the way it is...

[amar7]

Nah, I dont think Em is a "master mason"...
I never seen any symbols or code-words by ems musical career

[redhead]

http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/30608_shake_jpge15f646cf451374e25e564b27e2f76c7

See the masonic handshake above......well now look below

http://blog.japanizzle.com/images/Jay-Z_Nas2.jpg

[amar7]

the question is, if that all is sooooo secret, why they're doing this PUBLICLY??

sometimes it doesnt make sense 2 me

[redhead]

the question is, if that all is sooooo secret, why they're doing this PUBLICLY??

sometimes it doesnt make sense 2 me

Masons like to hide things in plain sight, its like there taunting the ones who know, the uneducated masses dont understand, so dont get it.

[redhead]

IMO Jay Z has definetly sold his soul for fame, musicians have always done it, havent you ever wondered why reggae has never taken off in a big way because the spiritual rastas refused to sell out, its the same with early hip hop, the sound was surpressed for 20 years until they could find some fools willing to sell out.

http://www.jayzonline.com/media/pictures/18.jpg


http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00158/images/allseeingeye.jpg

[jimmi]

I've been going to the Glastonbury festival for nearly thirty years , I've always called it my spiritual home, I've always felt an energy there and always left feeling 'charged'. Last year I left feeling drained, I don't claim to know exactly what is going on but I've had 'feelings' about the event. I have registered to go this year but this post has just made my mind up, sadly I shall not be going there again.

seeing the truth is setting me free

[loderlive]

the question is, if that all is sooooo secret, why they're doing this PUBLICLY??

sometimes it doesnt make sense 2 me

I often wonder this, isn't the iraq war a classic case?

[jimmi]

On the occult side of all this , 'They' have to tell us what they're up to or it doesn't work for them. they hide everything in plain sight. There is more written elsewhere and in greater detail, sorry haven't got links for you.

[zero1]

On the occult side of all this , 'They' have to tell us what they're up to or it doesn't work for them. they hide everything in plain sight'.

That's right. ;)

[amar7]

I dont get it.... why should they tell us what they're doing to get their stuff going on?
Doesnt make any sense to me
Explain!

[steevo]

The way I see it is that Jay Z does those pyramid things with his hands to show that he is aware of the illuminati symbolism. But I can't be SURE.

Also, I think that one of the tactics that "the powers that be" use to confuse us is to tell us that the people (eg. Icke, Jones, and maybe Jay Z) who are fighting the NWO are actually NWO themselves. (But there probably are many people who ARE working for the NWO who pretend to be on our side).

[synergy777]

good video i have seen it before.

nas, damon dash, jay z, puffy are all masons. even fifty cent looks like he is also in the masons.

add to this female stars like beyonce, lil kim, alicia keys.

other stars in the nwo are madonna, and many actresses. some think natalie portman/dated a rothschild, sacrlett johannsen/monarch archetype eg jayne mansfield, anne nicole smith, marilyn monroe etc, english stars are also in the nwo, eg keira knightley/disney films, helen mirren/the queen film are all a part of the nwo.

the nwo run the entertainment industry, movies and music, because these shape the minds of the masses. add to this media eg news, rothschild own reuters and book companies.

as for eminem it comes from m & m the sweet, i think. although respect to eminem as he talks about the new world order in his songs.

2pac was the only artist who went against the illuminati publicly wihtout fear, and paid with his life, thats why he is truly the greatest, the realest, not a fake/sell out like the rest. thats why he called himself the don killuminati = kill the iluminati.

look at the marley family, they even had prince charles and camilla visit them a few weeks ago, when they supposedly are against babylon/nwo and are rastas.

the world is full of sell outs, its hard to admit some of the people you like, are sell outs.

[dmt head]

Should check out a book called the matrix of hiphop by the black dot, guys clearly a racist and a bit extreme but lots of interesting stuff about hiphop http://www.matrixofhiphop.com/

[synergy777]

the whole industry is a scam bro, i have mates who are in the industry. you either go along with them, and get paid. or you stand against them and they finish you off.

what profit a man he gained the world and lost his soul: matthew 16:26

[amar7]

2pac was the only artist who went against the illuminati publicly wihtout fear, and paid with his life, thats why he is truly the greatest, the realest, not a fake/sell out like the rest. thats why he called himself the don killuminati = kill the iluminati.

look at the marley family, they even had prince charles and camilla visit them a few weeks ago, when they supposedly are against babylon/nwo and are rastas.

the world is full of sell outs, its hard to admit some of the people you like, are sell outs.

good post synergy!
2Pac is imo the realest ever in the whole music industry and i love his music he is my fav artist and one of the few artists, that i admire personally even though he did many mistakes aswell.
Anyway I dont see how he went out publicly against the NWO/Illuminati? AFAIK he didn't do it obvious at all and somehow he unconsciously even supported them by in some songs bragging about cars, money, houses and women..
I would like to hear your point on that.

I am unsure about the Marleys.. Bob Marley is half-jewish (father) and some lyrics of them are good others are critical ("Africa Unite" -African Union? OneWorld?), so thats why I didnt make up my mind about them, but I still like their music
Unfortunately most music has become "BUSINESS" instead of "ART" as it should be

[synergy777]

i think after jail, with the all eyez on me album, he went into the whole gangsta stuff for money and out of anger. look at the his albums before all eyez on me, three albums were all political, tracks like words of wisdom, keep ya head up, brenda's got a baby, me against the world etc.

then he went through the deathrow/suge knight phase, whilst in this phase, he started to see how things were built/run, and then wanted to turn back, eg makavelli. when deathrow realised 2pac was through with gangsta stuff and wanted to get back to heavy/real/conscionous stuff, he got whacked.

also as for marley i like him, but if his family was real, why let the royals visit. after all benjamin zepiniah, a poet from birmingham, was awarded an mbe/obe, but he refused it.

see some people know the game, and object to the elite. i like beckham, he recieved his obe/mbe, but to be fair, he don't know about the nwo/history. the marley's do.

also there are connections some people say between some rastas and masons/haile selaisse. also the afrocentric doctrines, especially the nation of islam, are masonic creations.

what you think about killah priest, wu tang, immortal technique etc

[redhead]

what you think about killah priest, wu tang, immortal technique etc

All solid artists Syn my man,
Immortal Technique - Cause of Death and Peruvian Cocaine, dope tunes
Killah Priest - The whole album Heavy Mental is dope, especially the track Information
Wu Tang - Feeling there earlier stuff but not really digging 8 Diagrams


Intresting stuff about the Marleys though, I did'nt know that....I bet Bob was spinning in his Grave

[redhead]

[Killah Priest]

Information, no doubt, ya know, don't stop, don't stop, don't stop
Information, literature, thiefs on the run, where ya gonna hide,
when the truth comes down on ya, you have to decide,
where ya gonna run to, where you gonna hide, information,
when the truth comes down upon ya, you have to to decide
you have to to decide,
information, we have to come with the laser scanners and shoot ya,
in supermarkets and department stores, direct mail houses,
were to record every single items we purchase, data about ya,
daily habits, and movements will flow into the b system,
from spy satellites, constantly searching overhead,
watching us like we're squirting, a suburban 666 database investigator,
entire race heading for a cyber-space,
riots breaks inside an em-pire states, every move you make,
is recorded on tape, some of us are white,
prisoned behind gates, getting minature videos in a brief-case,
recording our every activities, indoors, outdoors, day & night,
obscenely invaded our policy, our prophecies,
star gazing, because Allah's far amazing, than any greater god or for pagan,
raised in synagogs of Satan, awakeing with the starvanation,
left beats, scared and shaking, god with education, my birth was foretold,
from deep within my wardrobe, imbrase the cross-road, we once wore gold,
but now we electric probes with silicon brains, sinthetic,
all faces are strange, pathetic, check the eyes,
a man can't even recognise his family,
I blame it on humanity, for this insanity, spy satellites,
the last data for life, theres no day or night, CIA,
take samples of my DNA, new borns, grow horns, placed in uniforms,
shipped off to the military, with they killed and buried...
active tv sets will be watching us, just as we watched them,
they will also report back to the beast at computer headquarters,
out telephone conversations will be automatically wire taped,
and transcripted by the national security agency,
honesty, modesty, poverty, famine,
sons of Amman, deal with reprogramming, irus scanning,
breaking out of Satan's bondage, with long garments,
like we bionic, no longer paying homage, remember after 9-6,
we wear biochips, now it's 9 fuckin', beware of armageddon,
bloodsheddin', and beheading, head on head collision,
in the valley of decisions, we locked the beast in prison,
here ya gonna run to, where you gonna hide,
when the truth comes down upon you, you will have to to decide,
where ya gonna run to, where you gonna hide,
when the truth comes down upon you, you will have to to decide,
when that time comes, you will have to decide, information, information,
you will have to decide, information, where you gonna run to,
where you gonna hide, when the truth comes down upon you,
you will have to decide, information, information,
information....

(Movie Sample)
Can you help me?, I'm looking for a man..
[a man, what's his name?]
Jesus, I must warn him,
[your too late, even now he's before ?]
they found him,
[He was a betrayed to them, by one he loved and trusted, by his disciple...]

[synergy777]

red head good post, have you a download for the track. i like bible and angels from killah priest. the lyrics, beats are top notch on those tracks, the video for angels is awesome.

also imho, the best hip hop producer is dj premier.

[cowboy]

great video. thanks:)

[Ian2day]

I'm gonna break ranks here and stick my head up for the first time in ages. No doubt they are watching me even as I type this and will try to counteract my message. The thing about the rap industry is that it is controlled just like politics. All sides are fed the message to deliver.

I wouldn't be at all shocked to hear that 95% of rap and songs in general were all written by one person. Sort of like all computers running xp or vista. The truth is a lot stranger than anyone would bargain for. Also people would just never believe who from the 'names' on here and in the conspiritainment genre and entertainment industry in general are members of them.

They don't just control the message and the people. They control the planet. I would say that about 1-3% of the worlds population are members involved in orchestrating shit against us.

What can you do, I hear me asking myself. I found out recently that my own family members have been mixed up in it for decades. My life is stranger than a Tom Clancey Novel at the moment. I can from my own experiences state. That most of the news headlines are PRS in full effect for sure...

[rossus]

good video i have seen it before.

nas, damon dash, jay z, puffy are all masons. even fifty cent looks like he is also in the masons.

add to this female stars like beyonce, lil kim, alicia keys.

other stars in the nwo are madonna, and many actresses. some think natalie portman/dated a rothschild, sacrlett johannsen/monarch archetype eg jayne mansfield, anne nicole smith, marilyn monroe etc, english stars are also in the nwo, eg keira knightley/disney films, helen mirren/the queen film are all a part of the nwo.

the nwo run the entertainment industry, movies and music, because these shape the minds of the masses. add to this media eg news, rothschild own reuters and book companies.

as for eminem it comes from m & m the sweet, i think. although respect to eminem as he talks about the new world order in his songs.

2pac was the only artist who went against the illuminati publicly wihtout fear, and paid with his life, thats why he is truly the greatest, the realest, not a fake/sell out like the rest. thats why he called himself the don killuminati = kill the iluminati.

look at the marley family, they even had prince charles and camilla visit them a few weeks ago, when they supposedly are against babylon/nwo and are rastas.

the world is full of sell outs, its hard to admit some of the people you like, are sell outs.
mr smiley likes this post
-> :)

[amar7]

what you think about killah priest, wu tang, immortal technique etc

one of the few real rappers in the game. I only think that Wu-Tang are on the edge between real and commercial.
Nevertheless I'm convinced Tupac is the realest, most intelligent, charismatic and most talented in HipHop history, period.

[amar7]

@Ian2day: You are drifting very far away from the subject. I don't know you personally but I have the strong feeling that you are a bit paranoid mate

[amar7]

then he went through the deathrow/suge knight phase, whilst in this phase, he started to see how things were built/run, and then wanted to turn back, eg makavelli. when deathrow realised 2pac was through with gangsta stuff and wanted to get back to heavy/real/conscionous stuff, he got whacked.


Yeah, before Death Row phase he never used to have that "BLING BLING $money & casH" sound.
But still I love most of the Death Row stuff, cuz its still Pac even if maybe only to 90%! Skills 110 % :D

[synergy777]

mickyjay knows alot of anti nwo rap groups, you should get him to post some stuff.

wu tang openly talk about the illuminati/nwo on the track impossible off the wu tang forever album.

[amar7]

How should I get him to post here, and I dont even know him..
Also questionable to me is Dr.Dre/Aftermath/Interscope and his success in marketing 50Cent and making Eminem within few years to a rap icon.
If he is cooperating then it could explain the reason why he managed what seems to be impossible

[synergy777]

mickyjaystoned is his forum name, i'll get him to post some stuff bro.

yep i think dre could be a handler etc. also remember the 2pac stuff, 2pac accused dre of being gay, getting people to do favours for him etc.

no dubt dre is a talented producer, but he has been quiet of late. also he got the game into rap aswell

[critical_analysis]

M&M stand for Marshall Mathers - Though I think there was an issue with the sweet brand hence Eminem rather than what he was originally known as (M&M).

Not sure if Jay z and the rest of them are really masons or just do that to get people talking. I guess either is equally feasible and perhaps equally bad

Wu-Tang certainly are not Masons, though I think they are 5%'ers. Dont know too much about 5% nation though from what I have read they seem to study alot of the same kind of stuff, though I believe they see themselves as polar opposites.

[steevo]

You gotta be kidding if you think eminem is a freemason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLMVQa0KD8

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America
And to the Republic for which it stands
One nation under God
Indivisible with liberty and justice for all...
It feels so good to be back..

I scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, re-energize and rewind
I give sight to the blind, my insight through the mind
I exercise my right to express when I feel it's time
It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight, you take it as I'mma whip someone's ass
If you don't understand, don't even bother to ask
A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
Or at least shows no difficulty multi-task
And in juggling both perhaps mastered his craft
Slash entrepreneur who has helped launch a few more rap acts
Who's had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
Of his career typical manure moving past that
Mr. kisses ass crack, he's a class act
Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

Come along follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength
Come with me and I won't steer you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
To the light at the end of the tunnel
We gonna fight, we gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march
Through the swamp, we gonna mosh through the marsh
Take us right through the doors (c'mon)

All the people up top on the side and the middle
Come together lets all bomb and swamp just a little
Just let it gradually build from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters we gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause don't matter the weather
If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
They ain't gonna stop us they can't, we stronger now more than ever
They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
Stomp, push, shove, mush, Fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home (c'mon)

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's tryina tell us something,
Maybe this is God just sayin' we're responsible
For this monster, this coward,
That we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head noddin'
How could we allow something like this without pumping our fists
Now this is our final hour
Let me be the voice in your strength and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply by six...
Teen million people, Are equal at this high pitch
Maybe we can reach alqueda through my speech
Let the president answer a higher anarchy
Strap him with an Ak-47, let him go, fight his own war
Let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our own soil
No more psychological warfare, to trick us to thinking that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country, we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes its all lies
The stars and stripes, they've been swiped, washed out and wiped
And replaced with his own face, Mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you know why,
Cause I told you to fight.

And as we proceed,
To Mosh through this desert storm,
In these closing statements, if they should argue
Let us beg to differ
As we set aside our differences
And assemble our own army
To disarm this Weapon of Mass Destruction
That we call our President, for the present
And Mosh for the future of our next generation
To speak and be heard
Mr. President, Mr. Senator
Do you guy's hear us...hear us...[laughing] (Hailie)



Next you will be telling me that Ian Brown is a Freemason.

[Ian2day]

@Ian2day: You are drifting very far away from the subject. I don't know you personally but I have the strong feeling that you are a bit paranoid mate

Not just a bit, I am very much paranoid. I have no doubt about that. I would of thought that muting the possibility that 95% of rap is originating from one source, is staying with the discussion. Remember how it is done in politics. They control all sides of the argument. The same applies to all other markets they have monopolised.

[thirdwave]

http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/30608_shake_jpge15f646cf451374e25e564b27e2f76c7

See the masonic handshake above......well now look below

http://blog.japanizzle.com/images/Jay-Z_Nas2.jpg

the mason one has the thumb over the guys finger....in the pic the guy has his thumb over the back of his hand.

[redhead]

red head good post, have you a download for the track. i like bible and angels from killah priest. the lyrics, beats are top notch on those tracks, the video for angels is awesome.

also imho, the best hip hop producer is dj premier.

I'll up a link to the killah priest track when i get home Syn, you'll enjoy it. Producer wise i like Stoupe who produces for Jedi Mind Tricks, Premo, Pete Rock ,Rza, 9th Wonder, just all the boys who still produce hip hop the correct way by manipulating samples.

[redhead]

the mason one has the thumb over the guys finger....in the pic the guy has his thumb over the back of his hand.


Well spotted man, did'nt notice that myself, but i thought that touching the knuckle with your finger/thumb was a masonic handshake.....I need to do some digging on masonic handshakes today, expect a new post later on with lots of pics of handshakes if i can find any :p

[a fine naked fellow]

Great thread.

Tupac is legendary.
http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7958/2pacwhitesoxie0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)



But I would also like to take time out to promote :
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/129/prominentsonstq5.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[amar7]

If you want to promote anything, you can do so using your signature!
Watch this artists: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W69e8pEnspQ

If anyone can get me the mp3 of exactly that song in 192kbps, 128kbps (better quality then youtube) is also fine, I would neverforget that favour!
Thanks in advance to any efforts
Edit: its from the album "Harsh Game For The People" by Cool Nutz. But I cannot find that album to dl

[amar7]

http://www.global-b2b-network.com/direct/dbimage/50352067/Push_Up_Bra.jpg

pusshhhhhh
Up ^^

[critical_analysis]

http://www.nairaland.com/attachments/30608_shake_jpge15f646cf451374e25e564b27e2f76c7

See the masonic handshake above......well now look below

http://blog.japanizzle.com/images/Jay-Z_Nas2.jpg

Aside from the hand shake between Nas and Jay Z not looking quite like the masonic one, that picture has also been photoshopped.
His thumb is bent at an impossible angle.

[madthumbs]

OMG! David Icke has this:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/forum_pics/20.gif

on his forum! -Therefore he is evil and Satanic!

:rolleyes:

If the masses are controlled by religion, and that religion uses racism... well I just can't make sense of it in this context.

[stikmata]

Great thread.


But I would also like to take time out to promote :
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/129/prominentsonstq5.gif (http://www.myspace.com/prominentsons)


LOL!

I thought those guys were on some revolutionary-conscious type stuff..... UNTIL I saw this pic of one of em doing some masonic hand gesture:
http://a278.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/83/l_b1b9895845327b366a08d8c54cb4665d.jpg (http://www.myspace.com/prominentsons)
clearly they're just like the rest of them bastids!

[amar7]

Stop talkin crap guys..
Who cares about these little unknown underground rappers.

Jay-Z is a hypded up commercial/sell-out rapper and there is a possibility that he is working with them so that he could reach that fame.
As we all (?) know the Illuminati or whatever you might call them, control the media like newspapers, TV, and big parts of the music-"industry"....
That hand-gesture thing is not much of a sign, but with an open mind one can see that the media reality is often not the reality as it is

Anyway i ain't going to bother with you talking nonsense, if you find that all ridiculous then fine, you're free to think so


Here's my issue again, please help me finding that MP3: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=315806&postcount=40

[clozaril]

i think after jail, with the all eyez on me album, he went into the whole gangsta stuff for money and out of anger. look at the his albums before all eyez on me, three albums were all political, tracks like words of wisdom, keep ya head up, brenda's got a baby, me against the world etc.

then he went through the deathrow/suge knight phase, whilst in this phase, he started to see how things were built/run, and then wanted to turn back, eg makavelli. when deathrow realised 2pac was through with gangsta stuff and wanted to get back to heavy/real/conscionous stuff, he got whacked.



can you reccomend a tupac album?

[clozaril]

other stars in the nwo are madonna, and many actresses. some think natalie portman/dated a rothschild, sacrlett johannsen/monarch archetype eg jayne mansfield, anne nicole smith, marilyn monroe etc, english stars are also in the nwo, eg keira knightley/disney films, helen mirren/the queen film are all a part of the nwo.

the nwo run the entertainment industry, movies and music, because these shape the minds of the masses. add to this media eg news, rothschild own reuters and book companies.



yeah i think portman is still with the rothscild she also took 'time off' and studied psychology at harvard.

one of my friends also points out the big canadian presence in the entertainment industry.

[clozaril]

I've been going to the Glastonbury festival for nearly thirty years , I've always called it my spiritual home, I've always felt an energy there and always left feeling 'charged'. Last year I left feeling drained, I don't claim to know exactly what is going on but I've had 'feelings' about the event. I have registered to go this year but this post has just made my mind up, sadly I shall not be going there again.

seeing the truth is setting me free

yep jay-z is headlining glasto this year.

[Ian2day]

Stop talkin crap guys..
Who cares about these little unknown underground rappers.

Jay-Z is a hypded up commercial/sell-out rapper and there is a possibility that he is working with them so that he could reach that fame.
As we all (?) know the Illuminati or whatever you might call them, control the media like newspapers, TV, and big parts of the music-"industry"....
That hand-gesture thing is not much of a sign, but with an open mind one can see that the media reality is often not the reality as it is

Anyway i ain't going to bother with you talking nonsense, if you find that all ridiculous then fine, you're free to think so


Here's my issue again, please help me finding that MP3: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=315806&postcount=40

Little known underground rappers are hip hop!

If you doubt that rap in general is written by one person then listen to Ice Cube performing Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It from 4min 47 sec and tell me that it ain't the same person responsible as in an Immortal-technique track from the album Revolutionary Vol II. The whole industry is fucked right now because the one responsible for the material used for the past 13 years has awoken up from his drug induced slumber.

Now what I am saying is going to produce cognitive dissonance in a lot of people. The reason for it is because they aren't capable of the lyrical output like this one person can do. This one person has been writing hit lyrics since the age of 9. Due to the oppressive background they came from. They lacked self belief in their ability. So they use to just write and write and save it to their computer. Not knowing wtf was going down.

Underground Rappers are important. As they push and challenge your mind with realism. Now all you have to do is ensure that the rappers are using their own material. I don't take anything away from those able to perform. The same goes for any genre of music. How many are actually singing their own lyrics. If you break it all down and study the way that the words are constructed together you can see those performing others material. Of course you have to allow for the individuals personal development changing their lyrics over time.

[Ian2day]

Here's an example of what I'm talking about. Although its not rap, it shows that the public is oblivious to the deception taking place. Just like the lyricist who wrote many many lyrics use to be.


http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=244367&command=displayContent&sourceNode=244365&contentPK=20262044&folderPk=112383&pNodeId=188965

[mountain]

can you reccomend a tupac album?

Although you did not ask ME I will still do the honors..

Makaveli - The Don Killuminat (last official one alive)

2pac & the Outlawz

2pac - RU Still Down Remember Me?

2pac - All Eyez On Me

There are about at least 4 others just released recently. They are good.:)

[synergy777]

2pacalypse now is heavy, the track words of wisdom-ameri-kkk-a, this is the album that got the elite pissed off, they wanted to ban it.

stricly for my niggaz, has great songs like keep ya head up, brendas got a baby etc

me against the world, is one of my faves, the tracks: temptations/great video, lol, me against the world, death around the corner, if i die 2nite etc.

also the song pain, off the above the rim soundtrack single, warren g/regulate, was one of 2pacs greatest tracks.

also the gang related soundtrack.

dj fatal has some heavy remixes and there are some cool 2pac/rock mixes, especially the one with lyndrd skynr-sweet home alabama

[Ian2day]

Another example for all you doubters. Listen to M&M or eminem as he is known by for trademark reasons that someone came up with. If you do a paradigmatic analysis of the content it's all there to behold.

eminem - Mosh
listen from 4mins 44 secs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOLMVQa0KD8

Ice Cube - Gangsta Rap Made Me Do It
listen from 4mins 46 secs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzeZhCt5PVA

Immortal-technique
listen from 3mins 49 secs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LUkErRmHTc&feature=related

[synergy777]

so you saying the same person wrote all these songs, i know about ghost writers, they use them in music and books/autobiographies etc

[amar7]

I started off by listening to Pacs album "Still I Rise" feat. The Outlawz
and to me it is still one of the best ones.
If you understand Pacs music, you could never say which album is the best, cuz there are too many great ones

[amar7]

@Ian2day: I dont get your point... point the text parts for me to understand!
I don't believe in what you're saying anyway, but I like to see your way of arguing
Never would the same ghostwriter write for Em and Immortal, never
And in first place I don't even think that Eminem or Immortal has got a ghostwriter anyway.. they write their lyrics by themselfes imo

[amethyst]

the whole industry is a scam bro, i have mates who are in the industry. you either go along with them, and get paid. or you stand against them and they finish you off.

what profit a man he gained the world and lost his soul: matthew 16:26

This is true. And it's not just the music industry but the entertainment( movies, tv etc.) the modeling industry, all the arts (why do some artists get pushed ahead, while others are left behind?)

If you don't go along with the agenda, you don't get as much work.....

[Ian2day]

Synergy I can't make a statement of fact otherwise I could be wacked! Investigate and decide for yourself. I be a savant of unequalled strength. With a message not seen since Tupac and Biggie Smalls was sent. Don't ask me how, but I can just do it. Spitting words from my brain at the speed a tongue shoots from a lizard. The lyrical talent be strong in me. So strong it must be a spiritual thing. I just hope that I get to carry out my life's mission. To wake people up to just what they be missing! Its time for all of us to begin a new begining. Otherwise we is fucked along with the planet with us. Which will self combust and turn ashes to ashes and dust to dust. So I'm gonna be spittin dope lyrics and lines at the Illuminatis direction!

amar7 maybe if one person writes all the lyrics. They have a split personality. Or perhaps they just write some shit down and had it jacked never intending for it all to be made public. Perhaps some of the rhymes are practice. As they were just trying to see things from another's perspective.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWa4UpajKTcKRSone!

[amar7]

With a message not seen since Tupac and Biggie Smalls was sent.


putting Tupac at the same level with Notorious big is blasphemy my friend

[amar7]

amar7 maybe if one person writes all the lyrics. They have a split personality. Or perhaps they just write some shit down and had it jacked never intending for it all to be made public. Perhaps some of the rhymes are practice. As they were just trying to see things from another's perspective.


Aha, suddenly you're not sayin it, as if it was a definite fact

[Ian2day]

Its not for me to convince you. I just make you think differently. That is all I ever try to do. It is to have the audience look at things from another perspective. I can't convince you or anyone of anything on this forum. All I can do is make you think. Now if that has the effect of you coming to a different conclusion from that presented by the media constructed version of reality then it has had the desired effect. Like I said before cognitive dissonance is a hard thing to overcome. I know as I've been there myself. As another forum member has stated I know Kung-Fu.

[stikmata]

Here's my issue again, please help me finding that MP3: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=315806&postcount=40

here's a novel idea.

How about you support the artist and actually BUY the album.

(i know, i know... it SOUNDS crazy... but that's what people used to do)

http://starpulse.pricegrabber.com/search_fullinfomu.php/masterid=530722001/music_id=307220/st=product_tab

though i DID find it on mp3... a remix too infact

[amar7]

Nice advice, but I ain't gonna buy an album because of one song, even if it's a good one.
Will you give me that link to the mp3 or not?

[shea]

You forgot the one about Eminem: M & M = Master Mason.

Oh, how they laugh...

Jay-Z, Nas, Diddy, Kanye...the music industry is an occult industry, don't you know?

Rock n' Roll is not different in that respect to Hip-Hop, as a quick perusal of any Smashing Pumpkins album will tell you.

Top to Bottom, A & R to exexutives: Masons gallore, and the rest (OTO, Skull and Bones etc).

Just the way it is...

That is so fucking weird. As i read the line.. rock n roll is not different in that respect, smashing pumpkins came into my head...

[zero1]

That is so fucking weird. As i read the line.. rock n roll is not different in that respect, smashing pumpkins came into my head...

Yeah, your unconscious mind notices and picks things up that your conscious self doesn't immediately, yet they occur as intuitions later on. Know what I mean? ;)

[stikmata]

Nice advice, but I ain't gonna buy an album because of one song, even if it's a good one.
Will you give me that link to the mp3 or not?

it's not quite that simple... but probably not though. I think you'd like the whole album and should buy it, however, you can purchase the song on iTunes or Rhapsody pretty cheaply. 10 bux and you can DL the whole album from CDbaby.

[amar7]

Alright, I ain't gonna buy it and neither get on my knees beggin you, so
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/90/04/22420490.jpg

Somebody else maybe?

[synergy777]

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3056/2pacavatar18mb4.jpg

http://www.2pacworld.co.uk/killuminati.html

[amar7]

thnx for that link, even for me as a long-time Tupac-fan it was an interesting read and perception of things.
Pac never made it that obvious but with hidden messages he might have tried to rise the masses' awareness on that subject

[synergy777]

its a goodsite, found it today, the website owner has done a great job.

2pac was always ahead of the curve, what i liked about him was that he was himself, he didn't hide his vices/temptations, he openly stated his love of women, money, intoxicants, lol etc, but he always showed people love.

when he did his vices, he only hurt himself, and didn't hurt or judge anyone else.

not like these elite who appear all saintly/judgemental and do everything behind closed doors, until they caught. people who judge others, are hypocrites anyway, arrogant/ignorant haters.

[synergy777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDIeAAm8L2A

[red_ram]

The thing is, it's not the secret signals that concerns me. It's that the music is fucking shit.

[red_ram]

I'm sorry for the language in the post above, but I can't stand rap music. I really can't.

[synergy777]

each to his own bro, its all personal choice.

i love hip hop, as a whole culture. the 4 elements

1: mc-ing/lyrics/slam poetry,

2: dj-ing/turntablism/beats/computers etc

3: breaking - breakdance/body poppin

4: graffiti - urban art

add to that the clothes, ie comfort first. then the culture eg all colours as one. the birth of hip hop was about voicing social ills, poetry/creative verbal expression, and bringing people together to have a good time.

groups like public enemy, de la soul, tribe called quest, wu tang, etc

also most who are into real hip hop, know the agenda, know about supressed history/religion more than followers of anyother music genre.

thats why the elite grabbed it, and it now is the most powerful sub culture in the world. look at fashion, movies, advertising etc.

[red_ram]

Actually, I think my view was a bit generalised.

There is some rap I like, I don't know if it's NWO-ised or not. The culture you mention isn't really my taste but it's cool and there are many positives to it. I am similarly into rock 'culture'. :)

I guess what I should have said is: I can't stand Jay-Z, 50 Cent, Snoop and Kanye. Something about them annoys me intensely. But, there are plenty of good rappers who SHOULD be given airtime, and to be honest, I'm not kidding anyone that 80s commercial rock was any better. ;)

[synergy777]

see there's club hop, ie the people you mentioned. when you are drinking, smoking having a good time, you don't want hear heavy stuff as you want to relax, ignorance is bliss etc.

but then you realise we take it as entertainment, its no different to watching a movie or tv. but when kids look up to it and think its real life/aspirational and not marketing, fashion directors, ghostwriters and producers etc, they fail to see its a business, the entertainment industry.

like most genres of music anyway, if its a good tune, great lyrics, it is what it is, a great track.

[razed1]

I'm sorry for the language in the post above, but I can't stand rap music. I really can't.

select to make ya first pick!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8sMzynrnCs

[menses]

M&M stand for Marshall Mathers - Though I think there was an issue with the sweet brand hence Eminem rather than what he was originally known as (M&M).

Not sure if Jay z and the rest of them are really masons or just do that to get people talking. I guess either is equally feasible and perhaps equally bad

Wu-Tang certainly are not Masons, though I think they are 5%'ers. Dont know too much about 5% nation though from what I have read they seem to study alot of the same kind of stuff, though I believe they see themselves as polar opposites.

The Music Industry is Masonic..their game is mind control....its greatest composer was mason..ie Mozart...Why 3 6 mafia get an oscar? cuz they are masons...whats their label called? "Hypnotizing Minds"...

RZA is a Mason....ODB was a Mind Controlled Slave...and he knew it this is why he was acting like a lunatic during the last couple years of his life, especially after he turned "30"....MK Ultra is masonic in nature...

"Me & Mariah go back like baby's & pacifiers".....

Mariah Carey aka Mimi = split personality....Mind Controlled Slave...you see they love to pair them Slaves together....Carey and ODB both went nuts around the sametime...

Heres some more FYI...

Entertainers are indeed Masons aka Programmers and Handlers...

Nelly Furtado is an MK slave...Timberland is her handler..."Timberlake" is also a mind control slave..vis a vis Disney aka Mickey Mouse Club...aka Britney Spears....Aguilera too....Timberlake once said Aguilera suffered from Split Personality disorder...Janet Jackson is a Mind Control Slave...Jermaine Dupri is her current handler...just like Tommy Mottola used to be Careys handler before she was black...

like you guys said "From the A&R's right down to the Executives"...

Nelly Furtado...

"Im Like a bird...Im gonna fly away"...

Thats the song that activated her programming...yall got to peep Fritz work on Mind Control...they still imbedding the trigger words into the songs....

Rhianna is a daughter of Masonry...shes also a programmed slave....she underwent what Fritz Springmeigher likes to call "Umbrella Programming"

Whats her number 1 song called ?

The Game is rigged on too many levels....

Pac not only fought the Illuminati....he fought his own programming....that he underwent with fellow Mind Control Slave & Satanic Rock Band Member...Jada Pinkett(his best friend)....Yes, Pac was a slave...and he knew it....

[razed1]

cool stuff menses,

[razed1]

if you guys remember BIZZY from BONE thugs

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/3e/AOW.jpg

http://www.zshare.net/image/9981196d443260/

and they had some other group, mo thugs

heres his infamous interview, where he shows signs of multiple personality


listen to him describe the hip hop elite at that time, he was describiong them in a kind of a devilish fashion,

bizzy.mp3 - 1.93MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/9980853283203c/)

http://www.zshare.net/image/9981196d443260/

[amar7]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDIeAAm8L2A

Old stuff, I'd like to believe in that stuff, but actually cannot, because I know its not true.. (12shots...why did suge only barely get hit? ...... CUZ THEY WERE GOOD SHOOTERS MAYBE???)

[amar7]

Or Bizzy, once again, was just high as fuck :D

[tejas]

Great thread

I love rap

Dissapointed to know that Jayz and the rest are masons, but makes sense

They control through media and such like

Also how bout this, I went to a lupe fiasco concert recently and he kept flashing the horned hand sign with his LEFT hand always.

Gah its all control!!!

[thirdwave]

Well spotted man, did'nt notice that myself, but i thought that touching the knuckle with your finger/thumb was a masonic handshake.....I need to do some digging on masonic handshakes today, expect a new post later on with lots of pics of handshakes if i can find any :p

i would not be shocked if a few of them are masons.... what level they are at is another matter.... but im sure they get sucked in... I think most stars are just money crazy and only care about fame... not all, but most..

[shea]

Hows kanye west in it? Any videos or anything? I know jay z is and all that shit.

[uloodara]

I heard about Jay-z and Nas being masons...and if you think about it, its kinda clear that mainstream hip hop is currupt. The way the whole thing is structured is messed up because like David Icke says "the few control the many". imo There is a good chance that Kanye is a mason as he works for the ROC. ---- I dont know more than that about him being a mason though. I think Jay z is a mason..look at his fame/influence, he also leaves quite a few signs as pointed out in the thread. Not sure about Nas though

Lmao@ Bizzie...i think he is being mind controlled unless he was tripping

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=related (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=related)
^^^^
Reverse Tupac message?!?! (RIP)

I prefer underground hip hop rather than the mainstream BS...try listening to Common and Dead Prez

Peace

[razed1]

if you listen closely to bizzy....

you hear him describe those rappers as 'bently drivers"..." lavish"

and then he goes into talking about "the nectar flowing down you neck, the nectar!!'

this conjures up for me an image of somebody doing some kind of ritual or somehthing at a party, where their real 'demonic/reptilian' side shows through

we know when a dog goes rabid, is this same image of saliva flowing down your neck, and a person could be so engulfed by this primevil WANTON lust/desire,

i think bizzy probably witnessed some hollywood type shapeshift or do some kind of ritual

that why he keeps repeating "by our lord and saviour jesus christ!" over and over

this is what ppl who have witnessed something ungodly do, they need sometihng as a 'safe house' , in their mind,


i think its unwise for ppl to brush off that bizzy interview as just 'he was high'

listen to the words hes actually saying.....

[uloodara]

Thats true,
The words he was saying had some meaning to them...just about.

The interviewer should of asked more about the "bentley drivers". Oh yeah has anyone heard 1999 Eternal by Bone Thugs N Harmony?...it sounds satanic to me.

peace

[razed1]

of course you have to realize that the interviewer had no idea about what WE know is goin on in the world

everybody, including members of bone thugs thought bizzy had lost his mind, he went from being a millionaire, to just going and spedning time in bus shelters!! being 'homeless',

this speaks volumes, only who have had some kind of spiritual experience give up that kind of materialistic luxury

[razed1]

what a beautiful song this is... what deep meaning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpmr8Shy_UA

[razed1]

Thats true,
The words he was saying had some meaning to them...just about.

The interviewer should of asked more about the "bentley drivers". Oh yeah has anyone heard 1999 Eternal by Bone Thugs N Harmony?...it sounds satanic to me.

peace

yea this one christian minister, he talked about how there was a backwards message printed in the back of the cd inlay, you had to hold it up to a mirror to read it, and it was called "mr, ouija" he said this was like putting a spell on yourself

[grimmvizard]

Found that video, so I want to share with u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBnKjfqG-M&feature=related
I think there are actually Illuminati puppets in the HipHop industry aswell..what do you think?

listen to

Washington is next - MEGADETH

[razed1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i20dqs3Hx34


HELL SENT :eek:

One, two, Bone is coming for you
Three, four, better lock the doors
Five, six, better load your clips
Seven, eight, we're gonna test your fate
Nine, ten, we're out to kill again

Straight from the burning flames of hell
A place where all assassins dwell
Put back on earth to destroy all workshipppers of peace
Body bags and caskets may all good cease
Together they form an organization much stronger than the mafia
First, Krayzie Bone AKA Leatherface The Sawed Off Gangsta
Second, Layzie Bone AKA the Number One Assassin
Third, Bizzy Bone AKA Rest In Peace
Fourth, Wish Bone AKA Straightjacket nigga!

[Chorus]
[I]Murda, murda, murda, murda

[Krayzie]
Sold my soul to the devil
But I changed my mind now I want it back
But he won't coorperate so now it's time to jack
Called RIP and Stratejacket
Number One Assassin is fully strapped
We belled through hell in khakis, locs, and black skully caps
So satan called his posse full of demons and witches
We met up at the Abyss ready to salughter the bitches
Yo, but wouldn't you know satan went out like a sucka
So I left a message in blood "To be continued motherfucka"

[Wish]
Never praying at night
Cause the heavens don't want me
Sold my fuckin' soul so I can live through eternity
Killin' at night and watching victims in the daylight
A demon on the rise, and I'm snatchin' your fuckin' life
Been shot with a twelve gauge
I died and made front page
The devil sent me back and now I'm using the same gauge
Killin' like a maniac, livin' like a lunatic
Some would say the straight is sick
The devil's who you're fuckin' with

[Chorus]
Murda, murda, murda, murda

[Layzie]
I'm corrupt and demented and I diminish by execution
A savage of torture should've been kept in a institution
Been shot in the head I ain't go out like a sucka
But I still died went to hell and just took over the muthafucka
Learned the devil's tricks an how to run this shit
I had a fall out with satan, and called his son a bitch
Repeating satanic verses but I changed the words now you worship me
The gates of hell on fire shooting flames can't be worser, G


Hell sent they call me RIP for a reason
I'm on a road to see bloddy bodies just call me a demon
It's the psychopathic maniac, manglin' ladies stick a grenade in they pussy
The I start stranglin' babies
See, it's death to all my enemies that's RIP only tactic
But if by chance we kill each other our souls'll go at it
See I'm doggin' the triple six it's death by the sword
I told satan that I'm killin' him trough the Ouija board

[Chorus]
Murda, murda, murda, murda

[Krayzie]
Pick up the phone the war is on so get your weapons
RIP just spotted the devil around the corner from heaven with his crew
Drinking brews and im thinking " Damn that's foolish"
Swig off the 40 of holy water and say "Y'all let's do this"
Grabbed my click, gripped my dick
Walked with my face to the ground chanting
"Kill that motherfucka, now kill that motherfucka, now"
Unloaded on his ass and dumped him in his Abyss
And now his crew's on my dick because I'm Hell Sent

[Wish]
I'm standing in Hell with the gauge ready to buck
I'm coming for satan and my intentions is to fuck him up
Ain't been in the church they say "No demons on holy dirt"
I'm fuckin Satan's bitches
He got mad and called body work
A lynchin ain't shit compared to what I'm a give ya
I'm born and raised in hell and bitch I'm sent here to kill ya
I'm Rosemary's baby
There's no more evil like me
Cause when niggas think of death the motherfuckas picture me

[Chorus]
[B]Murda, murda, murda, murda

[Layzie]
Let me call up my posse
We talkin' over the underground
Yeah, satan and his boys the motherfuckas they going down
Man I gotsta do it
I ain't down for a hassle
I kicked the gates into hell and started a riot in satan's castle
I'm sick of this war now check it something has got to give
We stormed to the back, and we took demons as hostages
You want your people to live?
Then you'll forever pay me rent
To stay in my knigdom because a nigga is Hell Sent


Now we're walking through satan's den
The demons respected RIP
I'm running this motherfucka, hell ain't shit
A demon told me that Lucifer said meet him at the black hole
I told him "I'ma be there ain't no bitch in my soul"
And when I'm coming for your ass
Ain't no need to run
Because I'm so fuckin' ruthless I made the devil go buy a gun
Until we go at it, the RIP still won't repent
An appetite for bloody bodies
Rest In Peace is [B]Hell Sent

**demon whisper



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJe3toyC2qQ

[godmind]

This thread is silly.

Stop smoking happy cabbage.

[razed1]

hahah you had to register to post that!?!!?

[godmind]

Haha, No.

I've been signed up since March as you can see. As a person that has a passion for Hip Hop I felt compelled to post something in this thread. It's a coincidence that it's my first post.

Calling Eminem a master mason is fucking ridiculous. Yes, their are secret societys and a world government but you are just making wild allegations because you have seen them shake hands in a strange way or whatever. I think their is alot of truth in the theories Icke talks about.. but then their are people that take it way to far, which helps keep anyone that beleives in these"conspiracy theories" in the nutter category. You are drawing the line of possibility to far from reality in my opinion.

Anyone that is into Icke and his theories should check out Canibus's new album and look into his "infinite rhyme". It's called "Whom the Beat Tolls".

www.myspace.com/canibus

[razed1]

your join date says Apr

and are you canibus??

[godmind]

godmind
Junior Member


Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2

Canibus is a hip hop legend, I am not Canibus. Just a big fan.

[deliciously_fresh]

I heard about Jay-z and Nas being masons...and if you think about it, its kinda clear that mainstream hip hop is currupt. The way the whole thing is structured is messed up because like David Icke says "the few control the many". imo There is a good chance that Kanye is a mason as he works for the ROC. ---- I dont know more than that about him being a mason though. I think Jay z is a mason..look at his fame/influence, he also leaves quite a few signs as pointed out in the thread. Not sure about Nas though

Lmao@ Bizzie...i think he is being mind controlled unless he was tripping

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=related (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=LWa-clWMZ7Q&feature=related)
^^^^
Reverse Tupac message?!?! (RIP)

I prefer underground hip hop rather than the mainstream BS...try listening to Common and Dead Prez

Peace

I believe that many of the mainstream Hip Hop artists are being used to promote a very negative and self-destructive message to the Black youth (in particular).

The Music Industry is Masonic..their game is mind control....its greatest composer was mason..ie Mozart...Why 3 6 mafia get an oscar? cuz they are masons...whats their label called? "Hypnotizing Minds"...

RZA is a Mason....ODB was a Mind Controlled Slave...and he knew it this is why he was acting like a lunatic during the last couple years of his life, especially after he turned "30"....MK Ultra is masonic in nature...

"Me & Mariah go back like baby's & pacifiers".....

Mariah Carey aka Mimi = split personality....Mind Controlled Slave...you see they love to pair them Slaves together....Carey and ODB both went nuts around the sametime...

Heres some more FYI...

Entertainers are indeed Masons aka Programmers and Handlers...

Nelly Furtado is an MK slave...Timberland is her handler..."Timberlake" is also a mind control slave..vis a vis Disney aka Mickey Mouse Club...aka Britney Spears....Aguilera too....Timberlake once said Aguilera suffered from Split Personality disorder...Janet Jackson is a Mind Control Slave...Jermaine Dupri is her current handler...just like Tommy Mottola used to be Careys handler before she was black...

like you guys said "From the A&R's right down to the Executives"...

Nelly Furtado...

"Im Like a bird...Im gonna fly away"...

Thats the song that activated her programming...yall got to peep Fritz work on Mind Control...they still imbedding the trigger words into the songs....

Rhianna is a daughter of Masonry...shes also a programmed slave....she underwent what Fritz Springmeigher likes to call "Umbrella Programming"

Whats her number 1 song called ?

The Game is rigged on too many levels....

Pac not only fought the Illuminati....he fought his own programming....that he underwent with fellow Mind Control Slave & Satanic Rock Band Member...Jada Pinkett(his best friend)....Yes, Pac was a slave...and he knew it....

Very interesting post.

Do you have any links regarding Rihanna and programming?

I believe that Tupac was set up and killed by tptb. He was becoming too powerful and self-aware of what was really real. He used to go by the name 'Don KILLimunati'

On another board I used to frequent (before it got shut down), I read that Jada and Will are Luciferian. Considering their ties to Scientology and Tom Cruise, the idea isn't far-fetched.

I think Beyonce could be a mind-controlled slave too.

Oh, I also read that Kevin Federline was Britney's dealer and handler.

[amar7]

since my following thread went down, I will post the video here:
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23511


David Icke talking about HipHop..short but good

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B4GZufaF80

[razed1]

godmind
Junior Member


Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2

Canibus is a hip hop legend, I am not Canibus. Just a big fan.

im just saying if you are a fan of can i bus, then you would hear him talk about masons and stuff

[synergy777]

canibus even talks about elohim.

although, i think killah priest is one of the best, b.i.b.l.e and angels are tracks that blow your mind.

[razed1]

for your listening pleasure :D

this is canibus most EPIC work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I80ZVcYPuek




here a good song from infinite mid/late 90s, hes got other good songs too,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubG06RD7CaQ



the year is 2010
times have changed,
a powerful organization known only as MOBIUS
controls our society
its government no longer deems free will a right
but a commodity to be dispensed
a high security prison compound
section 3-14 is homes to anyone who questions MOBIUS domination
none have escaped their grasp


until now....



Verse 1

Dem outlaws was born to break laws and felonies
Deh got an empty gates in da town, deh run it steadily
To all my money makers cross town dissemble funds and put the pieces back together
Tryin' to drunk one another
Case thrown out, storm da courtroom, uniforms and three piece suits
From bail putting up houses and loot, he walkin'
I heard him talking to his partner
Hawkins about his way of livin'
Faces of death
He's runnin' with this older kid from around Mount Olive and Silverstone
Deh stack mad gats in da ceilin' at his baby mom's home
These narc's are watchin' us
Undercovers on the rooftop
Prepared and bullet proofed up
Jurassic blowin' cruisers up fatal
They got us trapped under this negative force
Some try to find a way out but no doubt some make it out
Some learnin' from their own mistakes
So take this negative and turn it into positive
Whether you what to listen is your prerogative.


Chorus

Take a look through my eyes and you'll see what I see
ENVY
Take a look through my eyes and you'll see what I see
JEALOUSY
Take a look through my eyes and you'll see what I see
LUST
Take a look through my eyes and you'll see what I see
HATE


Verse 2

Kick off da top lock and run in dat
Get to the point
Don't let him get the upper hand he's gamblin' with pure man
told everybody drop they cards and keep they hands up on the table
Told this kid thought he was quick, he drew first but shot last
Blood on my mask
This other youth was tryin' to run for da door
And picked up one in his back and collapsed
Matter of fact my main concern was for somebody grab dis
I used my sleeve to wipe the money off the table flood it all in one bag
Deh takin' rings to bracelets and found coke inside da bin
Bit now deh takin too long, deh inside and laverishin'
Come on it's time we make a move so let's bounce from this apartment
Fly down the staircase
But now deh tarin' down the place wisely
Don't want a bate up situation therefore
So when we get to the west we sharin' out mines what's yours is yours
Beast boys come out at late night so don't speed
Ah yo a cruiser cuts us off to try ta make his way to the crime scene.

Chorus

Verse 3

Now in closin' you done know he should never brag for real
Come on you know that
Remember who can hear they must feel
But word out on the streets is that you robbin' mad peep's
And now it's getting bad to worse because it's getting too far
From front page to stolen cars narcs deh know who you are
We gotta meet him then tie him up and drive him real far
Then we separate his body chop it up for the cause Dem outlaws, breakin' in and out of gun store
Only you can understand spottin' shells on the floor
Ay yo it's far from a threat, faces of death, there's nothin' left
It's far from a threat faces of death there's nothin' left.

Chorus x 2

Outro


and if there was one song that would represent Toronto hiphop to me,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wol_hLlwDdg

[uloodara]

canibus even talks about elohim.

although, i think killah priest is one of the best, b.i.b.l.e and angels are tracks that blow your mind.

^^^^
Agreed...


and I also agree with Deliciously Fresh...Its all a part of the mind control, celebs being programmed to programme others. Lupe's new album makes some sence to me, when he talks about 'The Cool'. The cool is just being sold the youths through hip hop by Bling, "bitches", Cars and materialist stuff. Also "beefing" with people imo is increased through hip hop involving gang culture and drug takeing/dealing.

Who ever said

Haha, No.

I've been signed up since March as you can see. As a person that has a passion for Hip Hop I felt compelled to post something in this thread. It's a coincidence that it's my first post.

Calling Eminem a master mason is fucking ridiculous. Yes, their are secret societys and a world government but you are just making wild allegations because you have seen them shake hands in a strange way or whatever. I think their is alot of truth in the theories Icke talks about.. but then their are people that take it way to far, which helps keep anyone that beleives in these"conspiracy theories" in the nutter category. You are drawing the line of possibility to far from reality in my opinion.

Anyone that is into Icke and his theories should check out Canibus's new album and look into his "infinite rhyme". It's called "Whom the Beat Tolls".

www.myspace.com/canibus

Sorry, but I feel your degrading the thread with your input...

What about the lyrical content...?
What about the Hand signs...? (pyramid with eye in the middle)
What about his name...? (J Hova = Jehovah)
What about the record company...?
What about his position and influence in hip hop...?

Peace

[synergy777]

Killah Priest - ANGELS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zbmhNCQwt8



Killah Priest - Whut Part Of The Game? feat. Ras Kass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ty_GCJpJUM



Killah Priest - B.I.B.L.E.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYMtp0ZW_IE&feature=related

[synergy777]

gotta go, razed1, i will check those videos tommorrow bro, thanks for the hook up.

[uloodara]

Thanks Razed1 + Syn

I peeped some of Infinites songs on youtube...very nice :cool: Thats exactly the kind of hip hop I enjoy, could you please recommend anymore??

Much better than all the bubble gum rap on the radio.

Thanks peace

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOj-QyHrVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIN18chRis0&feature=related

[godmind]

Sorry, didn't i make it clear? I am degrading this thread. :p

I have followed canibus's career from day one with great interest. I know albums of his off by heart, I know he talks about masons, I clearly said that these things exist.

Canibus isn't just smart for a rapper, he is smart for a proffesor, the most intellegent rapper out there in my opinion. He has inspired people like Jay Z and he even has a collaboration track with Nas. If you asked him if either of them had any involvement in freemasonry he would laugh in your face, I promise.

I mean, someone said Eminem's name translates to "Master Mason" instead of his birthname "Marshall Mathers". That's how silly it is getting.

"Fuck money, I don't rap for dead presidents, I'd rather see the president dead, It's never been said but I set precedents" - Eminem

I just think you are looking into shit way to deeply, but if their is ever a picture taken with Jay Z's and Eminem's arm over George Bush's shoulder with them all throwing up devils horns then I'll let you say "I told you so".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au0AkGyJmhc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rAYvltKrJE


ONE.

[razed1]

i too have been listening to canibus since he first came out, and he is a lot more intelligent than the average emcee

but until you go and ask him this question and get a response,

If you asked him if either of them had any involvement in freemasonry he would laugh in your face, I promise

then you are assuming too much, and you aint gonna find the truth this way

canibus is smart, but he aint perfect is he?

he did go join the army, and if he was as smart as you assume, then he wouldve figured out that joining the army does no good to his country or his peoples. just serves the satanic masters at the top,

this has always puzzled me, why a smart guy like canibus would go enlist, maybe theres more to what really happened, maybe he was just in the process of figuring out the truth as we all are, who knows, that aint the issue,

point is "assumption is the mother of all fuck ups" :p

[Ian2day]

i too have been listening to canibus since he first came out, and he is a lot more intelligent than the average emcee

but until you go and ask him this question and get a response,



then you are assuming too much, and you aint gonna find the truth this way

canibus is smart, but he aint perfect is he?

he did go join the army, and if he was as smart as you assume, then he wouldve figured out that joining the army does no good to his country or his peoples. just serves the satanic masters at the top,

this has always puzzled me, why a smart guy like canibus would go enlist, maybe theres more to what really happened, maybe he was just in the process of figuring out the truth as we all are, who knows, that aint the issue,

point is "assumption is the mother of all fuck ups" :p

The assumption is that these 'artists' create all their own material. What if most rap including the dissenting rap is just a media constructed product coming from more or less one source. The corporations have for years used the arts to influence culture. If they find something that works they run with it. And if they can get that material for free all the better in their eyes. Only they will soon have to pay up. Call it reparations or restitution if they don't pay me back. I'm gonna start a musical fuelled revolution.

[razed1]

The assumption is that these 'artists' create all their own material. What if most rap including the dissenting rap is just a media constructed product coming from more or less one source. The corporations have for years used the arts to influence culture. If they find something that works they run with it. And if they can get that material for free all the better in their eyes. Only they will soon have to pay up. Call it reparations or restitution if they don't pay me back. I'm gonna start a musical fuelled revolution.


well, what you say might be true when applied to what is considered 'rap' nowadays now that these corporations have taken over

but no, it was a REAL thing before, and you could hear it in the music, you can tell by listening to a proper emcee, like a canibus, his own style, wordplay, lyrics, flow, you can hear the distinction between two different rappers, you can hear freestyles, battles going on in the streets, these things do still happen, and that is what hiphop was really about

i dont agree with what your saying, maybe there were/are rappers that are getting their rhymes ghostwritten, or concepts given to them by other ppl, idk,

but i dont think that you can put them in this category of 'all coming out of the same source'

[red_ram]

well, what you say might be true when applied to what is considered 'rap' nowadays now that these corporations have taken over

but no, it was a REAL thing before, and you could hear it in the music, you can tell by listening to a proper emcee, like a canibus, his own style, wordplay, lyrics, flow, you can hear the distinction between two different rappers, you can hear freestyles, battles going on in the streets, these things do still happen, and that is what hiphop was really about

i dont agree with what your saying, maybe there were/are rappers that are getting their rhymes ghostwritten, or concepts given to them by other ppl, idk,

but i dont think that you can put them in this category of 'all coming out of the same source'

I agree.

I think the same thing happened in rock music in the 80s. The way I see it, they push one genre as hard as they can until people get sick of the commerciality and go elsewhere.

I wonder what'll be next.

[xdnax]

im a huge mark for bone thugs...one reason being this video

bizzy bone "father"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DdbWtuGPLtA

now, for how talented they are,these guys should be major-big....but...sometime i get the suspicion that occasional lyrics such as "i really dont wanna hurt nobody....just kill off illuminati!!" and "cos we know big business controls america, and babylon controls america" and such dont go down too well. plus.
i love hip hop....but bone are just sumthin else in my opinion.

plus, the affiliated group mo thug has this logo
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u274/1dna1/mothug.jpg
:)

i dont think they'd like that. lol

plus, they were signed by eazy e, who contracted aids and died....but that was meant to be really suspicious also...suposedly related to business deals that he wouldnt agree to..im sure synergy could give u a good low down on eazy e (has that guy got info, or WHAT? lol)

peace

[xdnax]

oh...sorry....gotta plug myself here...ahem

check out me n bill hicks "head in the clouds" on my myspace.

and this cos its just fuckin mint

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mzYvWnS_Mmw

:p lol

sumtimes i wonder how deep i'd be allowed to get if i had a major deal......maybe i'll find out sumday.

[crazyman]

im a huge mark for bone thugs...one reason being this video

bizzy bone "father"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=DdbWtuGPLtA

now, for how talented they are,these guys should be major-big....but...sometime i get the suspicion that occasional lyrics such as "i really dont wanna hurt nobody....just kill off illuminati!!" and "cos we know big business controls america, and babylon controls america" and such dont go down too well. plus.
i love hip hop....but bone are just sumthin else in my opinion.

plus, the affiliated group mo thug has this logo
http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u274/1dna1/mothug.jpg
:)

i dont think they'd like that. lol

plus, they were signed by eazy e, who contracted aids and died....but that was meant to be really suspicious also...suposedly related to business deals that he wouldnt agree to..im sure synergy could give u a good low down on eazy e (has that guy got info, or WHAT? lol)

peace

Well I too have tons of things to say about Bone Thugs being involved in this thread. I know their music and I have gotten to know a couple of them over the years, mainly in their glory days. I would have to say they are anti establishment and the lyrics prove it. Bizzy and Layzie recently put out a song called conspiracy which details some feelings they have especially about Eazy E and the AIDS case. But if you can catch up and follow the lyrics you wil understand that they are not controlled and they have some things to say when it comes to alternative topics. Which will explain why they are in the boat that they are in today. They are undoubtedly the most selling hip hop group ever but are way unrecognized for it. They recently signed with Interscope and out of the 100 plus songs recorded for the album they choose just a handful of the worst tracks similar to what Ruthless records did to them when they recorded the Art of War. Some of those unreleased tracks were actually leaked and can see the difference in what Interscope considered good music for them. Bunch of Bullshit. Interscope also didn't promote them as they would normally promote a group (radio play, commercials, etc.) If you want real uncensored raw Bone Thugs find some of their Indy Released records and you will see what's really going on with them. Especially when it comes to Bizzy, he has the most Indy released solo albums and they all say something, sometimes he speaks in code or you may have to decipher his lyrics but it's all there.

[redhead]

Well I too have tons of things to say about Bone Thugs being involved in this thread. I know their music and I have gotten to know a couple of them over the years, mainly in their glory days. I would have to say they are anti establishment and the lyrics prove it. Bizzy and Layzie recently put out a song called conspiracy which details some feelings they have especially about Eazy E and the AIDS case. But if you can catch up and follow the lyrics you wil understand that they are not controlled and they have some things to say when it comes to alternative topics. Which will explain why they are in the boat that they are in today. They are undoubtedly the most selling hip hop group ever but are way unrecognized for it. They recently signed with Interscope and out of the 100 plus songs recorded for the album they choose just a handful of the worst tracks similar to what Ruthless records did to them when they recorded the Art of War. Some of those unreleased tracks were actually leaked and can see the difference in what Interscope considered good music for them. Bunch of Bullshit. Interscope also didn't promote them as they would normally promote a group (radio play, commercials, etc.) If you want real uncensored raw Bone Thugs find some of their Indy Released records and you will see what's really going on with them. Especially when it comes to Bizzy, he has the most Indy released solo albums and they all say something, sometimes he speaks in code or you may have to decipher his lyrics but it's all there.


I here ya man, the same thing happened to Rakim when he signed to Dre's label he recorded an album but Dre just wanted Rakim to do gun play and bling tracks and Rakim said no, scooped up the masters and left thats whay the album was never released. Its a shame cause Rakim is one of the greatest rappers of all time

[razed1]

Well I too have tons of things to say about Bone Thugs being involved in this thread. I know their music and I have gotten to know a couple of them over the years, mainly in their glory days. I would have to say they are anti establishment and the lyrics prove it. Bizzy and Layzie recently put out a song called conspiracy which details some feelings they have especially about Eazy E and the AIDS case. But if you can catch up and follow the lyrics you wil understand that they are not controlled and they have some things to say when it comes to alternative topics. Which will explain why they are in the boat that they are in today. They are undoubtedly the most selling hip hop group ever but are way unrecognized for it. They recently signed with Interscope and out of the 100 plus songs recorded for the album they choose just a handful of the worst tracks similar to what Ruthless records did to them when they recorded the Art of War. Some of those unreleased tracks were actually leaked and can see the difference in what Interscope considered good music for them. Bunch of Bullshit. Interscope also didn't promote them as they would normally promote a group (radio play, commercials, etc.) If you want real uncensored raw Bone Thugs find some of their Indy Released records and you will see what's really going on with them. Especially when it comes to Bizzy, he has the most Indy released solo albums and they all say something, sometimes he speaks in code or you may have to decipher his lyrics but it's all there.

interesting, do you know what really happened with bizzy??

[razed1]

oh...sorry....gotta plug myself here...ahem

check out me n bill hicks "head in the clouds" on my myspace.

and this cos its just fuckin mint

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mzYvWnS_Mmw

:p lol

sumtimes i wonder how deep i'd be allowed to get if i had a major deal......maybe i'll find out sumday.

hey i listened to that, not bad at all, you got a nice flow wid it

[amar7]

Flow ^could be even much better, I see potential there

[xdnax]

hey i listened to that, not bad at all, you got a nice flow wid it
that aint my usual flow. check my myspace for what i usually do.

as for bizzy, he's back wiv bone and bringnin out a solo cd too....as is kray...also layzie and bizzy bringin out a new bone brothers cd....and lay's bringin out that mo thugs cd.

[xdnax]

Well I too have tons of things to say about Bone Thugs being involved in this thread. I know their music and I have gotten to know a couple of them over the years, mainly in their glory days. I would have to say they are anti establishment and the lyrics prove it. Bizzy and Layzie recently put out a song called conspiracy which details some feelings they have especially about Eazy E and the AIDS case. But if you can catch up and follow the lyrics you wil understand that they are not controlled and they have some things to say when it comes to alternative topics. Which will explain why they are in the boat that they are in today. They are undoubtedly the most selling hip hop group ever but are way unrecognized for it. They recently signed with Interscope and out of the 100 plus songs recorded for the album they choose just a handful of the worst tracks similar to what Ruthless records did to them when they recorded the Art of War. Some of those unreleased tracks were actually leaked and can see the difference in what Interscope considered good music for them. Bunch of Bullshit. Interscope also didn't promote them as they would normally promote a group (radio play, commercials, etc.) If you want real uncensored raw Bone Thugs find some of their Indy Released records and you will see what's really going on with them. Especially when it comes to Bizzy, he has the most Indy released solo albums and they all say something, sometimes he speaks in code or you may have to decipher his lyrics but it's all there.
i think layzie ESPECIALLY says the most out of the bones. hes got a great track "vote for me" which isnt pointing too many fingers but addressing deep issues.
again, that was on a cd which is hard 2 get hold off.
TOTALLY agree with the thoughts bout the strength and loyalty cd. i heard looooooooads of tracks that cudda bin on that album, and i only would've chose about 3 that were on the cd in the end.

krays "i heard they got a plan 2 try n kill us all, make us get the mark of the beast, disturbin the peace" and thats from 99. again. bone aint full of this "conspiracy" stuff but it seems a potential point of why they aint as big as they should be.....cos if u look at what mainstream rap consists of, then bone not bein huuuuuge is a fuckin massive conspiracy to me lol

oh, not to 4get the mention by layzie of creating a "thug world order" and their 2003 cd being entitled "thug world order" lol


oh and yeh....thanks for lettin me know bout that song!

bone thugs "conspiracy"
3rd verse is a must listen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bWVQCdfPFEI&feature=related

[amar7]

Someone said here, that 2Pac was brainwashed or mind controlled.. That's not the truth imo. He just went a bit with the flow of the community because he knew for sure, that if he wouldn't do that, he woulnd't get any further

BTW here's a very political song of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSss-TPJa00
lyrics
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/wordsofwisdom.html


greatly intense song&lyrics

[menses]

Someone said here, that 2Pac was brainwashed or mind controlled.. That's not the truth imo. He just went a bit with the flow of the community because he knew for sure, that if he wouldn't do that, he woulnd't get any further

BTW here's a very political song of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSss-TPJa00
lyrics
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/wordsofwisdom.html


greatly intense song&lyrics

Actually it is the truth...but you have to pay attention to "whom" he was surrounded by to know such a thing....to understand the music industry, you have to have a thorough understanding of masonry and the eugenics program it has spawned....There is NOBODY in the industry who isn't a "child of masonry"....let me give you a hint of how pervasive it is.....

MOS DEF is an actor 1st...a rapper second...on what show did most people see him 1st? The Cosby Mysteries...Every child actor on the Cosby Show was a mind controlled actor...and a child of masonry...including "Raven" Simone...(Learn the significance of the Raven..and youll understand why)

How do you know if somebody is a Mason? Ask them if they are a "travelling man"...What song did Mos Def do for DJ Honda....what was it called?....I dun have to tell you....you should know the answer...and it just so happens he is good friends with Will Smith...& Jada Pinkett...whom just happened to be friends with Tupac Amaru Shakur...his mother named him Amaru for a reason...it means "Shining Serpent"....

Tupac was a wise man...read books like most people use toilet paper....Hence he "was wise as the serpent"...it is common knowledge amongst those in the know that the Freemasons are indeed the descendants of Atlantis....their prodgeny were called the Sons of the "Serpents"...they were known as the Serpent people...not because they looked like Serpents Mr Icke...but because they were wise and intelligent...charismatic and charming...and bright..they were in a sense like "Shining Serpents"

Wars are not the only aspects of history that are planned a hunderd years in advance....so is culture....learn mind control...and learn masonry...and learn to look for clues as to the nature of who the artist really is...and where they really come from....

Eminem is a Mind Control Slave as well....and he has told you this through his music over the years...how many names does he have? heres a clue...its more than "one"....

[menses]

Very interesting post.

Do you have any links regarding Rihanna and programming?

I believe that Tupac was set up and killed by tptb. He was becoming too powerful and self-aware of what was really real. He used to go by the name 'Don KILLimunati'

On another board I used to frequent (before it got shut down), I read that Jada and Will are Luciferian. Considering their ties to Scientology and Tom Cruise, the idea isn't far-fetched.

I think Beyonce could be a mind-controlled slave too.

Oh, I also read that Kevin Federline was Britney's dealer and handler.



Well....i have heard the same things...in fact...they have told you this over and over again over the years....for example...

Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA)--This is used to represent all categories of ritual abuse which would be inspired by the desire to rob, kill, or destroy something worthwhile in a person, especially their freedom of thought. Many groups carrying out SRA do not mention Satan by that name. They may make Pacts to Baphomet, and call upon Rex Mundi, or Belair, or Lucifer, or the Father of Light, God, or Kali or even "Jesus" or "Jesus Christ". SRA is not a value judgment by the authors against some group, the victims themselves on some level know that he or she is being abused.


As I said before...Jada Pinkett Smith underwent Mind Control Programming as a child...Satanic Ritual Abuse.....guess what she now does for a living..?

Pinkett Smith is the vocalist for the metal band Wicked Wisdom, which released a self-titled debut album on February 21, 2006. The band also toured Ozzfest in the summer of 2005 as part of the second stage lineup. In 2006 the band played the Download Festival in Castle Donington, UK as one of the first bands on the Friday.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jada_Pinkett_Smith

Songs include - Bleed All Over Me
- Something Inside of Me
-Worship Me



Sounds Satanic to me....look who she married.....Will Smith The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air...or is it the Prince of Darkness?

Belair, an alternate name used for Satan in the Questions of Bartholomew

[amar7]

Eminem is a Mind Control Slave as well....and he has told you this through his music over the years...how many names does he have? heres a clue...its more than "one"....


Thats an assumption not backed up by any arguments..
Eminem, Slim Shady, Marshall Mathers I only know these names of him
Eminem = M&M =Marshall Mathers
Slim Shady is the "bad" persona he portraits and I am sure that he doesnt think that is himself, even though there are some crazy mad songs, which sound pretty real of him :D

[amar7]

As I said before...Jada Pinkett Smith underwent Mind Control Programming as a child...Satanic Ritual Abuse.....guess what she now does for a living..?


She is an actor (a good one) and musician, what do you want to say by that? And also it is another assumtion that she underwent SRA

[amar7]

Actually it is the truth...but you have to pay attention to "whom" he was surrounded by to know such a thing....to understand the music industry, you have to have a thorough understanding of masonry and the eugenics program it has spawned....There is NOBODY in the industry who isn't a "child of masonry"....let me give you a hint of how pervasive it is.....

Wow what an accusation, I think you're paranoid or something something


MOS DEF is an actor 1st...a rapper second...on what show did most people see him 1st? The Cosby Mysteries...Every child actor on the Cosby Show was a mind controlled actor...and a child of masonry...including "Raven" Simone...(Learn the significance of the Raven..and youll understand why)

I dont get the connection, explain. Mos Def is a good rapper imo so i wouldnt assume that he is a mason or mindcontrolled.. If you would call 50cent that, I would rather believe it :rolleyes:


How do you know if somebody is a Mason? Ask them if they are a "travelling man"...What song did Mos Def do for DJ Honda....what was it called?....I dun have to tell you....you should know the answer...and it just so happens he is good friends with Will Smith...& Jada Pinkett...whom just happened to be friends with Tupac Amaru Shakur...his mother named him Amaru for a reason...it means "Shining Serpent"....

Jada Pinkett seems to be self-concious and clearminded. But even if she was mind controlled and Pac was her friend... Does that make Pac mind controlled as well? Sry but your writings dont make any sense to me


Tupac was a wise man...read books like most people use toilet paper....Hence he "was wise as the serpent"...it is common knowledge amongst those in the know that the Freemasons are indeed the descendants of Atlantis....their prodgeny were called the Sons of the "Serpents"...they were known as the Serpent people...not because they looked like Serpents Mr Icke...but because they were wise and intelligent...charismatic and charming...and bright..they were in a sense like "Shining Serpents"

yeah, so what???

[Ian2day]

Actually it is the truth...but you have to pay attention to "whom" he was surrounded by to know such a thing....to understand the music industry, you have to have a thorough understanding of masonry and the eugenics program it has spawned....There is NOBODY in the industry who isn't a "child of masonry"....let me give you a hint of how pervasive it is.....

MOS DEF is an actor 1st...a rapper second...on what show did most people see him 1st? The Cosby Mysteries...Every child actor on the Cosby Show was a mind controlled actor...and a child of masonry...including "Raven" Simone...(Learn the significance of the Raven..and youll understand why)

How do you know if somebody is a Mason? Ask them if they are a "travelling man"...What song did Mos Def do for DJ Honda....what was it called?....I dun have to tell you....you should know the answer...and it just so happens he is good friends with Will Smith...& Jada Pinkett...whom just happened to be friends with Tupac Amaru Shakur...his mother named him Amaru for a reason...it means "Shining Serpent"....

Tupac was a wise man...read books like most people use toilet paper....Hence he "was wise as the serpent"...it is common knowledge amongst those in the know that the Freemasons are indeed the descendants of Atlantis....their prodgeny were called the Sons of the "Serpents"...they were known as the Serpent people...not because they looked like Serpents Mr Icke...but because they were wise and intelligent...charismatic and charming...and bright..they were in a sense like "Shining Serpents"

Wars are not the only aspects of history that are planned a hunderd years in advance....so is culture....learn mind control...and learn masonry...and learn to look for clues as to the nature of who the artist really is...and where they really come from....

Eminem is a Mind Control Slave as well....and he has told you this through his music over the years...how many names does he have? heres a clue...its more than "one"....

Eminem the stage Rapper could be mind controlled. 'Eminem' the artist I suspect more than likely has an undiagnosed form of DID.
http://www.ppfoundation.org/pict_DID.asp

[godmind]

Crazy maw' fuckas.

[amar7]

He doesnt have undiagnosed did man
He might be a bit crazy and sick,
but under the circumstances (His mother was psychologically sick!) he grown up through, I think that he survived well.

[Ian2day]

He doesnt have undiagnosed did man
He might be a bit crazy and sick,
but under the circumstances (His mother was psychologically sick!) he grown up through, I think that he survived well.

Yeah I agree the stage Rapper is probably just a bit stressed. Now the next time I see 'eminem' the artist I'll let him know the score. Look I think I have DID. Hence why I was able to produce so much lyrical material for nearly 25 years and not be aware of it. Somebody nameless, somewhere found out that I could write lyrics like a machine and exploited me. Not just exploited me but engineered problems in my life so I would have extremely emotive lyrics to entertain people with. Now when that person got the sack from one record company. They would set up another one. They would employ people who would find out about me. They in turn would also grab my lyrics. Have a look at the music industry. How it is all structured like a house of cards. How people would go from one company to another. All of them exploiting me.

[menses]

He doesnt have undiagnosed did man
He might be a bit crazy and sick,
but under the circumstances (His mother was psychologically sick!) he grown up through, I think that he survived well.

I see people still havent studied Fritz work in its entirety...there is a reason that man is likely going to die in prison...honor him by reading it back to front...thoroughly.....5 times if need be...

Eminem was given to the public to promote Dysfunctional Behavior...in disenfrancised youth...he did not come from aristocracy...similar to Britney Spears, he was born outside of the artistocratic bloodlines...he was selected at birth, and through threats, extortion, bribery and blackmail...he was taken from his real parents and programmed....

Eminem was to be "thrown from the freedom train" after he turned 30...but Proof took his place....and he told you this was going to happen in his album "Searching For Jerry Garcia"....The same Jerry Garcia, leader of the Rock Group, The Grateful Dead which had links to the CIA MK Ultra experiments involving LSD of the 60's & 70's...

Final Song on Proof's Album? "Kurt Kobain".....

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61F2YY7YBTL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

..Who himself had this amazing ability to fall asleep anywhere at anytime at any moment during the day...a character trait of Mind Control Victims who have been Programmed as children....(Narcalepsy) to be rock stars, atheletes, Lawyers, Doctors, Actors, Scientists...etc....Who was Kobains best friend? River Phoenix (who was trapped in a pit of vipers as a young Indiana Jones in the movie, and died in a club called "The Viper Room" in real life....gee what a coincidence..).....you folks need to stop looking up to these artists and start studying them from a whole other angle....you missing out....

And similar to Tupac supposed "coincidental video" foreshadowing his death....Proof dies in the following video as well....entitled "Like Toy Soldiers"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3i6z2fnQZ4&feature=related


MK-Ultra was an expansion of Operation Mockingbird
Inspired by North Korea's brainwashing program, the CIA begins experiments on Mind Control

http://www.politicalfriendster.com/showPerson.php?id=2750&name=Project-MK-ULTRA



Eminem - Video - "Mockingbird"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxDStr6r6kk&feature=related

Wizard of Oz Program

The Yellow Brick Road is the script or programmed set of instructions one must follow. It also serves as a runway for alters to take off from their internal world and take the body. “FOLLOW THE YELLOW BRICK ROAD”

-Fritz Springmeier - The Illuminati Formula to Create an Undetectable Total Mind Control Slave

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml


Eminem - Video - "Yellow Brick Road"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxDStr6r6kk&feature=related



COINCIDENCE? NOT BLOODY LIKELY...

HONOR PROOF FOR HIS SACRIFICE....HE FORFEITED HIS OWN LIFE FOR THE SAKE OF HALIE...AND EMINEM KNOWS THIS....AND HAS BEEN DEPRESSED FOR MONTHS...SO MUCH SO THAT HE DOES NOT LEAVE HIS HOUSE...HE HAS GAINED A TRUCKLOAD OF WEIGHT AND IS A SHELL OF HIS FORMER SELF....I DONT BLAME HIM....HONOR PROOOF BY GETTING THIS INFO OUT THERE....THIS IS BIGGER THAN HOLLYWOOD...THESE STARS ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN ARE BEING MANIPULATED AND CONTROLLED FROM THE CRADLE TO THE GRAVE....IT HAS TO STOP!!!!!!!! STOP BULLSHYTIN!!!!!!!!!

[menses]

The Music Industry is Masonic..their game is mind control....its greatest composer was mason..ie Mozart...Why 3 6 mafia get an oscar? cuz they are masons...whats their label called? "Hypnotizing Minds"...

RZA is a Mason....ODB was a Mind Controlled Slave...and he knew it this is why he was acting like a lunatic during the last couple years of his life, especially after he turned "30"....MK Ultra is masonic in nature...

"Me & Mariah go back like baby's & pacifiers".....

Mariah Carey aka Mimi = split personality....Mind Controlled Slave...you see they love to pair them Slaves together....Carey and ODB both went nuts around the sametime...



The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies have programmed thousands upon thousands of slaves. There are only so many code words to pick from and some of these code words are favorites. From the co-author Fritz Springmeier’s experience, the following are favorite code words that have been used to program slaves with:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml



CHARLOTTE, CHECKMATE, CHRISTMAS, CLARA, CLOVERLEAF, COURIER, CRAYON, CRYSTAL, DAISY, DAVY, DELLA, DELTA, DEMON, DIANA, DINAH, DIRTY, DIME, DOT, DOVE, DRAGON, DUCK, DUMBO, EAGLE, EASY, ECHO, ELAINE, ELEPHANT, ELLEN, EMERALD, EMPIRE, ESTER, EUREKA, EVERGREEN, FAITH, FALCON, FARMER, FELIX, FIREFLY, FIVE BROTHERS, FIVE SISTERS, FLASHLIGHT, FLOSSY, FLYING + [other word], FOX, FREEZE, FRIENDSHIP, FULL HOUSE

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



http://www.makemeheal.com/news/images/olsen-twins-nose-job.jpg


Their behavior has become quite eratic over the years hasn't it? They haven't been playing with a "full" deck or "house" of cards....I wonder why? I aint got to tell you...what drug do the Programmers like to use to program children when they are young?

The science of Pharmacology (drugs) has given the Programmers a vast array of mind-altering and body-altering drugs. Some of the drugs are not used to directly alter the mind, but to change the body (makethe skin burn), or make the person vomit, or some other reaction that can be harnessed to further their nefarious programming goals.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula3chap.shtml



Mary-Kate Olsen in rehab for cocaine addiction

I previously blogged about Mary-Kate Olsen being anorexic.

But now, the New York Post reports (via Wizbang) that Mary-Kate Olsen entered rehab for cocaine addition, not anorexia.

http://www.calicocat.com/2004/07/mary-kate-olsen-in-rehab-for-cocaine.html



OLD "DIRTY" BASTARD
http://www.six-zro.com/images/rappagesODB.jpg

COINCIDENCE?

[menses]

The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies have programmed thousands upon thousands of slaves. There are only so many code words to pick from and some of these code words are favorites. From the co-author Fritz Springmeier’s experience, the following are favorite code words that have been used to program slaves with:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml



GWEN, HADES, HALF-MOON, HAMMER, HARRIET, HAWK, HAZEL, HELENE, HELIOS, HEN, HERMES, HIGH BALL, HIGH CARD, HOLE-IN-THE-WALL, HOPE, HOPI, HOUNDDOG, HOURGLASS, HUSThER, HYDRA, ICEBERG, IDA, IMP, INCUBUS, SATURN,INSECT, IRIS, IROQUOIS, ITEM, JACKASS, JAGUAR, JANET

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



You Mean This Gwen?

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/IMAGES/RSPOD/RS966.jpg

You Mean this Saturn?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/516R6K49XVL._SS500_.jpg

You mean this Janet?

http://mixmatters.com/hot/images/janet_jackson_call_on_me.jpg


Janet Jackson Says She Had Sexually Active Mind Young
The other character living inside her is Damita Jo, which is her middle name and the title of her latest album.

Damita Jo, she says, is "a lot harsher, and quick to put you in your place."

http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/janet-jackson-is-a-multiple.htm

[menses]

The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies have programmed thousands upon thousands of slaves. There are only so many code words to pick from and some of these code words are favorites. From the co-author Fritz Springmeier’s experience, the following are favorite code words that have been used to program slaves with:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/IlluminatiFormulaindex.shtml



PLUTO, POLLY, PYTHON, QUAIL, QUEBEC, QUEEN, QUEEN BEE, QUEENIE, QUEST, QUICK SILVER, RACHEL, RAINBOW, RAM, RANGER, RASCAL, RAT, RAVEN

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



MOS DEF is an actor 1st...a rapper second...on what show did most people see him 1st? The Cosby Mysteries...Every child actor on the Cosby Show was a mind controlled actor...and a child of masonry...including "Raven" Simone...(Learn the significance of the Raven..and youll understand why)

-Menses
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22896&page=13


You mean This Raven?

http://f7.img.v4.skyrock.com/f74/girl14129001/pics/224428055_small.jpg

[Ian2day]

I've no doubt that I'm a subject of Monarch. I started to feel strange after reading the list of code words. Also When I was reading the first paragraph in Springmeir's book. I began to feel that some churning was taking place within me.

Now when I received some NLP a part of the session involved something called spinning. This was used to suppress feelings and desires. I had even better stop thinking about it all, as it is leaving me feeling very strange. I hope that the list of codewords is not a sequenced code to trigger some behaviour from me. I need to have a sleep. I'm feeling really tired with heavy laboured breaths just thinking about this all.

[menses]

I've no doubt that I'm a subject of Monarch. I started to feel strange after reading the list of code words. Also When I was reading the first paragraph in Springmeir's book. I began to feel that some churning was taking place within me.

Now when I received some NLP a part of the session involved something called spinning. This was used to suppress feelings and desires. I had even better stop thinking about it all, as it is leaving me feeling very strange. I hope that the list of codewords is not a sequenced code to trigger some behaviour from me. I need to have a sleep. I'm feeling really tired with heavy laboured breaths just thinking about this all.

Are you being serious? If so...stay out of this thread...as the books says...it isn't wise...to continue reading....

[isitfortiamat]

meanwhile the other day I posted about the JayZ/Beyonce wedding and not one reply...but it was on 04/04/2008.They are linked to big corporations and that Beyonce is a former "child type star" with her father being a notorious "stage dad/handler"

[isitfortiamat]

I am TOTALLY with you on all points Deliciously Fresh (a little late maybe)but it is widely speculated that Rhianna is having an "affair" with Jay-Z so hence the marriage to Beyonce-who screams mind controlled slave.Some folks have even placed some "backmasked" Rhianna tunes (Umbrella mainly) on youtube that are really weird and may point to her devotion to JayZ/Satanism. Spears fell from grace when she hooked up with that Federline guy and I wouldn't doubt if he was her handler to help facilitate such a ritual.

[menses]

meanwhile the other day I posted about the JayZ/Beyonce wedding and not one reply...but it was on 04/04/2008.They are linked to big corporations and that Beyonce is a former "child type star" with her father being a notorious "stage dad/handler"

Indeed...

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/news/040517/jayz.jpg

{Masonry is absolutely dedicated to the dissolution of marriage and the promotion of promiscuity. Masons believe in Darwinism and thus believe as long as you are cunning and crafty, if you can get away with it...breaking the law and stepping on whomever you please to get to the top is ok....The Old Testament (The Law) is an encoded message revealing this masonic truth....}

Just as the Beatles were knighted by the queen for spreading Dysfunctional behavior among the youth, getting the young high and addicted to drugs, sex crazed and strung out so they would forget about Vietnam...Jay-Z himself, a long standing supporter of the afrometioned ideas (Promiscuity, violence, Drugs) applied for Knighthood from Prince Charles but was turned down....there are reasons for that....

Jay-Z is for all intensive purposes...an initiate, a 1st generation Mason...meaning that he will never get beyond the 33rd degree in his lifetime....His children of course will be able to go well beyond the 33rd..

.(I wonder why Nick Carter of the backstreet got a job at the U.N.?....hmmm?) Beyonce on the other hand is another story. I encourage folks to find out the history behind the last name "Knowles"...you won't be dissapointed....She is of course a 2nd generation Mason..most major film stars are 3rd generation..(This is the reason her movie roles will be limited...its not for lack of talent..she is programmed)

Her father was to Beyonce what Joe Jackson was to Michael Jackson...(ahhh...the plot thickens)...Some Illuminati children when being prepared for their roles later in life undergo what is called "Peter Pan Programming.."

Seeing a Hand of Glory (severed left hand) will induct people into Peter Pan programming. (Books describing the occult use of the Hand of Glory in Ireland go back to 1830. It is an ancient practice. Baring Gould’s book Curious Myths of the Middle Ages describes the recipe for using the hand of glory as a gruesome lantern during the witchcraft of the Middle Ages.)

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4Bchap.shtml



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Michael_Jackson_1984(2).jpg/220px-Michael_Jackson_1984(2).jpg

Notice the Hand of Glory that shines like a Lantern...Where did Michael Jackson used to live...?

NEVER NEVER LAND - PETER PAN

ORGANIZATIONS PRACTICING TRAUMA-BASED MIND CONTROL
These groups form what insiders call “the Network.” They are the backbone of what is known as the New World Order.

1. Air Force Intelligence

2. Army Intelligence (such as CIC)

3. Atomic Energy Commission, AEC

4. Boeing

5. British Intelligence, in. MI-6, MI-5, & the Tavistock Institute

6. The House of Saud in Saudi Arabia

-Fritz Springmeier

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula1chap.shtml

Where did Michael Jackson Move to? do you even have to ask?


Michael Jackson moves to Middle East

Michael Jackson is saying farewell to the U.S. West Coast and making a new home for himself and his family in the Middle East.

According to Jackson's brother Jermaine, the King of Pop is planning to move to Bahrain, a group of 33 islands off the east coast of Saudi Arabia, family friend Steve Manning tells JET. Jackson is currently enjoying an extended getaway there with his children.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1355/is_10_108/ai_n15691192

[amar7]

@menses I've got a better theory about Emin3m!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiUXq5W7aTs

Read this and listen to how he raps to catch your attention and controll your mind:

I don't understand
Why are you being so mean?
You're mean mean man

[Chorus]
You are just jealous of me
Cuz you, you just can't do what I do
So instead of just admitting it
You walk around and say
All kinds of really mean things
About me cuz you're a meanie, a meanie
But it's only cuz you're
Just really jealous of me
Cuz I'm what you want to be
So you just look like an idiot
When you say these mean things
Cuz it's too easy to see
You're really just a big weenie, big weenie

[Verse 1]
Alright listen, I need you to focus
I need you to go dig deep in your mind, this is important
We are going to perform an experiment of the sorts
I'm going to have to ask you to bear with me for a moment
Now I need you to open your mind-your eyes close them
You are now about to be placed under my hypnosis
For the next four and a half minutes
We are going to explore into your mind
:eek::eek::eek:To find out why you're so fuckin' jealous
Now why did they make Yoo-Hoo?
Hippity ga-ga boo-boo
Psych, I'm kidding
I just wanted to see if you're still listenin'
Ok, now I need your undivided attention
Sir I have a question
Why do I always sense this undeniable tension
From the moment that I enter into the room
It gets all quiet and whispers
Whenever theres conversation, why am I always mentioned?
I've been dying to ask, it's been itchin' at me
Is it just because

[Chorus]

[Verse 2]
Alright now I, I just flubbed a line
I was going to say something extremely important
But I forgot who or what it was, I fucked up
Psych, I'm kidding again you idiot, no I didn't
That's just what you wanted to hear from me
Is that I fucked up ain't it?
But I can bust one take without lookin' at no paper
It doesn't take a bunch of takes
Or me to stand here in this booth all day
For me to say the truth, ok?
You're droolin, you have tooth decay
Your mouth is open, you're disgusting
What the fuck you eat for lunch
A bunch of sweets or something, what?
You munch a bunch of Crunch 'N Munch?
Your tooth is rotten to the gum
Your breath stinks, wanna chew some gum?
Yes I do sir, what am I on?
You sir are on truth syrum
Marshall I'm so jealous of you
Please say you won't tell nobody
I'd be so embarrassed, I'm just absolutely terrified
That someone's gonna find out why I'm saying
All these terrible, evil and awful mean things
It's my own insecurity!

[Chorus]

[Verse 3]
Alright now we, we're going to conduct
That experiment that we were talking about earlier
Just to see what a frog looks like when it takes two hits of ecstasy (Using drungs to control ur mind^^)
Cuz that's exactly what your eyes look like, want to check to see?
Here's a mirror, notice the resemblence here?
Wait, let me put these sun glasses on
Now look in this mirror, how about now?
What do you have in common?
You're both green with envy and look like idiots with sunglasses on 'em
You look like I sound like singing about weenies
Now take my weenie out of your mouth
This is between me and you, I know you're not happy
I know you'd much rather see me lying in the corner of a room somewhere crying
Curled up in a ball tweeked out of my mind dying
There is no denying that my weenie is much bigger than yours is
Mine is like sticking a banana between two oranges
Why you even doing this to yourself, it's pointless
Why do we have to keep on going through this, this is tortuous
My point is this
That if you say mean things, weenie will shrink
Now I fogot what the chorus is, your just is...

I think his music is above average and I enjoy his crazy weird kind of humour, his lyrics flow and voice

[amethyst]

http://www.makemeheal.com/news/images/olsen-twins-nose-job.jpg


Their behavior has become quite eratic over the years hasn't it? They haven't been playing with a "full" deck or "house" of cards....I wonder why? I aint got to tell you...what drug do the Programmers like to use to program children when they are young?





OLD "DIRTY" BASTARD
http://www.six-zro.com/images/rappagesODB.jpg

COINCIDENCE?

Thanks for pointing these things out menses.

I think it's strange when Mary-Kate Olsen is always referred to as "MK" in the press....it's hardly ever Mary-Kate, just "MK'....and I recall a few years back when she was going to rehab., one of her treatment centers was called something like "Illuminata Center".....I just remembered that.....

It's really tragic and bizarre how many are used like this to promote the agenda.

And the sheeple have no clue.

[amar7]

Pls stay OnTopic Mary-Kate Olsen and others are not rappers.
There is a mind control forum here for those who don't know it

[razed1]

'wake up in the morning got the yearnin for herb...' :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkweSHtIRnM

gravediggaz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMB9RWrclbs

grand p. :cool:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loq5D9u4nZo

[razed1]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYpy3ciEsB8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2cMmHq8eqI

as we head into this next millenium...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_WrYzlWzaA

[Ian2day]

Indeed...

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/news/040517/jayz.jpg

{Masonry is absolutely dedicated to the dissolution of marriage and the promotion of promiscuity. Masons believe in Darwinism and thus believe as long as you are cunning and crafty, if you can get away with it...breaking the law and stepping on whomever you please to get to the top is ok....The Old Testament (The Law) is an encoded message revealing this masonic truth....}

Just as the Beatles were knighted by the queen for spreading Dysfunctional behavior among the youth, getting the young high and addicted to drugs, sex crazed and strung out so they would forget about Vietnam...Jay-Z himself, a long standing supporter of the afrometioned ideas (Promiscuity, violence, Drugs) applied for Knighthood from Prince Charles but was turned down....there are reasons for that....

Jay-Z is for all intensive purposes...an initiate, a 1st generation Mason...meaning that he will never get beyond the 33rd degree in his lifetime....His children of course will be able to go well beyond the 33rd..

.(I wonder why Nick Carter of the backstreet got a job at the U.N.?....hmmm?) Beyonce on the other hand is another story. I encourage folks to find out the history behind the last name "Knowles"...you won't be dissapointed....She is of course a 2nd generation Mason..most major film stars are 3rd generation..(This is the reason her movie roles will be limited...its not for lack of talent..she is programmed)

Her father was to Beyonce what Joe Jackson was to Michael Jackson...(ahhh...the plot thickens)...Some Illuminati children when being prepared for their roles later in life undergo what is called "Peter Pan Programming.."



http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Michael_Jackson_1984%282%29.jpg/220px-Michael_Jackson_1984%282%29.jpg

Notice the Hand of Glory that shines like a Lantern...Where did Michael Jackson used to live...?

NEVER NEVER LAND - PETER PAN



Where did Michael Jackson Move to? do you even have to ask?

Here it is, here is the uncontrolled truth
some may say nay, its spat somewhat uncouth
I was a Mind Control subject of the Tavistock
They initiated Monarch in me using a famous Disc Jock
Thought I was a sui-cidal, sui-cidal, do or die kinda Guy
However I was just lonely and a bit shy, no word of a lie
They found out all about my childhood splintered mind
Learnt all about my bizarre boyhood from my late night lifelines
I use to call up the Samaritans late most every night
turns out that they was all Mi5 masquerades as mates
Tried in the end to get me to die or hibernate inside
Yet I overcame the psychological lie tonight

I ended up starting out crazy as a fox,
cause I ain't wearin no adidas or Reeboks
I get loose those boring brands of the man,
once and for all consigned to quicksand
Tried to impact a knowledge of oneness,
Instead my minds eye suffered from blindness
Just like when I wrote as Gnarls Barcley and penned Crazy
It made everyone else look St Elsewhere and be lazy
Come see me a lyrical tyrant unleashing an xray spit from his lips
I'm a post hypnotic psychotic MK-Ultra'd bum rush the show-stoppa
They will try an deny it, say I'm crazy and push me off the edge of a cliff
Try to hide the deception and lies from the public's eye once more

Someone must be of good intent,
otherwise my life is all misspent
Spied Jay-Z twice last year within half a mile of my University,
driving a fly car wearing a kiss100 dark Jersey
twenty minutes later I saw airforce1 take off to the sky
just what or who was the payload inside
I was spiked a cocktail of drugs
chemically straight jacketed my jugs blood
Its all a conspiracy to control me,
nick my lyrics and put me in reins
The lengths that they will sink to
are not fathomed by most
You wouldn't believe how much
the conspiracy is a fact
A secret society full of fat cats,
all vying to make me an MK-Ultra candidate
Have no doubt that they had plans to unite me with Obama
In a continuation of the fake war with Osama
So fuck it I'm a gonna keep writing the hits like Umbrella
and the mind controlled bilderberg false left right political show will be a stoppa

[Ian2day]

http://www.icecube.com/client_images/icecube/28_086423086831c7e4200b8aad7c3c42f9.jpg

Does Ice Cube look to be controlled?

[xdnax]

http://www.icecube.com/client_images/icecube/28_086423086831c7e4200b8aad7c3c42f9.jpg

Does Ice Cube look to be controlled?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RLIHfOq50So

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=87hllT_d4hQ

not in my view

[deliciously_fresh]

I am TOTALLY with you on all points Deliciously Fresh (a little late maybe)but it is widely speculated that Rhianna is having an "affair" with Jay-Z so hence the marriage to Beyonce-who screams mind controlled slave.Some folks have even placed some "backmasked" Rhianna tunes (Umbrella mainly) on youtube that are really weird and may point to her devotion to JayZ/Satanism. Spears fell from grace when she hooked up with that Federline guy and I wouldn't doubt if he was her handler to help facilitate such a ritual.

The 'affair' rumours have been going around for at least 3 years now (when Rihanna came onto the scene). Who knows?

I'm gonna check out the Rihanna clips on youtube, and see if I can find what you're referring to.

[deliciously_fresh]

Well....i have heard the same things...in fact...they have told you this over and over again over the years....for example...



As I said before...Jada Pinkett Smith underwent Mind Control Programming as a child...Satanic Ritual Abuse.....guess what she now does for a living..?



Sounds Satanic to me....look who she married.....Will Smith The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air...or is it the Prince of Darkness?

...........plus they associate with Tom Cruise who is a Scientology devotee.

[menses]

The 'affair' rumours have been going around for at least 3 years now (when Rihanna came onto the scene). Who knows?

I'm gonna check out the Rihanna clips on youtube, and see if I can find what you're referring to.

Rhianna is a "Dolly" and a Monarch Slave...

"Dolly" - Has the right kind of genetics to produce children that will be good looking, possess a high iq, programmable, likely to succeed in the arts...etc..

Monarch Slave - Rhianna has received Sexual BETA based Programming...the access code is referred to as the"Umbrella" system ...by repeating certain phrases in certain tones...you can gain access to certain personality traits within the slave...or slaves depending on how many people you are trying to trigger...you may recognize this one...

Codes to all the various basic systems

Stairwell 432111132
Quabala 423454334
Tornado 332146444
Umbrella System 314321014

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



[Jay-Z]
Ahuh Ahuh (Yea Rihanna)
Ahuh Ahuh (Good girl gone bad)
Ahuh Ahuh (Take three... Action)
Ahuh Ahuh

You can stand under my umbrella
You can stand under my umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh)
Under my umbrella
(Ella ella eh eh eh eh eh eh)

http://www.elyrics.net/read/r/rihanna-lyrics/umbrella-lyrics.html


Notice Sean Carter aka Jay Z begins the song...this was by no accident...he is now for all intensive purposes...a Slave Handler and a Programmer...Programmers tend to manage, date, and or marry their slaves...Tommy Mattola...Mafiosi and Sony head honcho married Mariah Carey...when she was still white...Celine Dion married her husband and programmer at 13(no formal announcement)...he just happened to be her manager at the time...

Jay Z was given his choice...and he chose Beyonce...good breeding, genetics, children who can be programmed...etc. See in masonry you are introduced to your wife...and given the opportunity to breed children with desirable traits that will push them even further up the ladder than you....Gene Simmons (Family Jewels)...Simmons is a Mason...comes to the Masonic Temple in Toronto as soon as he gets off the plane whenver he visits....Shannon Tweed was a "Dolly"......good genes, good looking, genetics...etc etc...Masons hate Marriage...they want to destroy it....Simmons been wit the same woman for 20 years and never married her....because he doesn't need to....its just genetics...(notice he's always talking about his looks and being the alpha male....)thats all.....its just a Eugenics Program...thats all it is....Jay Z has his dolly....in 20 years he will have a reality show as well.....He is 39 years old and about to turn 40....life begins at 40...the 40th degree...in masonry...Madonna(Monarch Slave) entered the Qabala at 40 years of age...etc etc..(her new video removes all doubt as to whether or not she knows what time it is...)mind you he won't be allowed to advance...his children will though...

Lets take a look at a recent Juno Winner....


http://www.am770chqr.com/_Shared/CPContent/e040637A.jpg

Recognize her?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41GV4M9C8EL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

Album Name - "Monarch"

Artist - Feist

The Programmers and Occultist who run our Music Industry and Advertising Firms love to imbed programming cues and triggers in popular music...and commercials...

Feist.......

For Feist, iPod makes it easy as 1234

iPod ad featuring Feist on YouTube
Feist's 1234 video on YouTube

Second single from The Reminder shoots up charts after repeated play in new Nano ad

Sep 28, 2007 04:30 AM
Ben Rayner
Pop Music Critic

After months of grazing the international mainstream, Canadian songbird Leslie Feist looks poised to make a major commercial breakthrough in the States and the U.K. through her recent association with an ubiquitous, tiny silver gadget.
http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/261411


1, 2, 3, 4, Tell Me Who Your Searching For....

Basic Internal Emergency Color Codes for a System
T here are several different “CODE RED’s, etc. not just one in a slave, what follows is not the complete information about the Codes, although it is possible some slaves have a simplified version like this:

“CODE GREEN” -- Dr. Green’s suicide programming, tied to “no-talk” programming.
“CODE BLUE” --Victim’s body freezes in motion and can’t move until another code is given.
“CODE RED” -- Victim gets angry and violent
“CODE RED” -Another Code Red has the standard Monarch meaning, “serious self-destruct” program

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



Tell me what color is Feist Wearing in this video? She suspended in air...almost as if she is "Frozen In Motion".....wouldn't you say?

http://a955.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/53/l_e1bde4496a50221550f3515c4e6edaa2.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8Z-DIAthbM

1, 2, 3, 4, Tell Me Who Your Searching For...............................

[deliciously_fresh]

^^^^^^^^

Interesting stuff.

What Fritz Springmeier books do you recommend?

[soulja]

bump this thread

Menses your knowledge on the Music biz, MK celebs etc.. is unbelievable.
I just read the best thread on MK ever and that's down to your posts.

i thought i have a pretty good understanding but what you have posted here goes way beyond 'having read springmeier'

you should make a thread about this stuff, it's important for people to wise up on this subject.

- peace -

[razed1]

Who himself had this amazing ability to fall asleep anywhere at anytime at any moment during the day...a character trait of Mind Control Victims who have been Programmed as children.... (Narcalepsy) to be rock stars,

do you think this woudl be true of the rapper BIG PUN also??

he was also said to have been falling asleep during the day, even during mid-sentence in interviews and stuff

some ppl blamed it on his weight problem,

but i think, after reading your posts, that there must be more to this

consider how big pun died, its only after his death is when his fellow group member of the 'TERROR SQUAD' ,fat joe, rose to mainstream stardom


do you think that maybe big puns wieght problem was part of his mind control, he just like proof got sacrificed, if you look at older pictures of big pun, (christopher rios) you will see he looks pretty normal, than in a matter of years, his wieght shot up to 400+ pounds,


all in all, we need to see more of you posts on these subjects menses

[amar7]

Here's a repost of my posting, because the video's gone down.
this shit right here should now work:

Someone said here, that 2Pac was brainwashed or mind controlled.. That's not the truth imo. He just went a bit with the flow of the community because he knew for sure, that if he wouldn't do that, he woulnd't get any further

BTW here's a very political song of him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmcCMzxloiolyrics
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/wordsofwisdom.html


greatly intense song&lyrics

[soulja]

well i'm an old Pac fan, got all his albums i grew basicly up with his music but i tend to agree with menses. pac was mk'd.
he was strong tho so the programing kind of broke slowly but surely.
he had flashbacks, you hear him often mention how he woke up at night screaming, nighmares, haunted by demons and so on.

but only to an extend mk'd imo, i don't believe he was under total mindcontrol.
otherwise they wouldn't have gone through so much hustle to control him, stop him, slow him down. instigated beef, ny shooting, haitan jack (fbi plant) rapecase set up, the choice between 2 years more prison or gag-contract with tha row, all this things show they were busy behind the scenes attempting to control him wich i believe wouldn't be necessary if he was a total MK slave.

he was also about to leave tha row and start his own label. the music he would have put out there would have been a lot different than the stuff he released on death row.
wich was more focused on that whole M.O.B gangsta shit although here and there he kicked some knowledge. but if he wouldn't have died his music would have gone to the next level. they had to kill him, it was way bigger than just about money and it had nothing to do with the whole phony east/west situation back then.
all the people who blame suge for the set up only see part of the picture.
i mean suge was in on it, sure, but not the mastermind. he just played his role.


Cops are just as crooked as the niggas they chasin'
Lookin' for role models
Our father figures is bases
Some say they expect Illuminati take my body to sleep
Niggas at the party with they shotties
Just as rowdy as me
Before I flee computer chips
I gotta deal wit brothas flippin
I don't see no devils bleedin'
Only black blood drippin
We can change
Whatcha now say?
I'm watchin niggaz work their lives out without pay (huh)
Whatever it takes to switch places wit the bustas on top
I'm bustin' shots make the world stop
They don't give a fuck about us

the chorus hints at the real reason (imo) they murdered him

Thuggin' till the day I die
They don't give a fuck about us
And when I start to rise
A hero in their children's eyes
Now they give a fuck about us
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/2pac/theydontgiveafuckaboutus.html

he reached the minds of the youth, now reaching/influencing the young is no problem, even encouraged as long as you talk about killing people, abusing drugs and all that stuff but imagine what happens when someone as big as pac was about to drop that gangsta shit and starts to kick some real knowledge. educate people, give them hope, unite them.
he had to go..

[soulja]

^^^^^^^^

Interesting stuff.

What Fritz Springmeier books do you recommend?

all of them :D
http://fritz-springmeier.dbs2000ad.com/

[Ian2day]

People can't handle the truth. So they chose not to hear me when I say things such as Tupac was probably MK-Ultra like me and that I wrote Changes, Brenda's got a baby and California etc in about 1994. The story behind the lyrics for Lucifer is another one people will never believe.

[razed1]

you aint funny SON!

'ya headed fo self destruction'

[synergy777]

2pac tried to break free, and he came out against the illuminati, the don killuminati/kill the illluminati and it was his last move.

John lennon broke out and came out against the illuminati, it was last move.

bob marley broke out and came out against the illuminati, it was his last move.

jfk broke out and came out against the illuminati, it was his last move.

throughout history people have broke out and confronted the elite, and they have been killed. its like the bill hicks qoute, where he tells us that we kill the people the who try to free us.

how long can this go on ?

its better to die on your feet than live on your kness.

and as its only your body and not you/spirit that dies, have no fear.

they only hide the facts, to to deny us of our true power/state.

[razed1]

menses should do a post on lil wayne and him kissing his daddy,

[Ian2day]

you aint funny SON!

'ya headed fo self destruction'

Is that a definition of Ascension? You don't wanna do a colab then?

[razed1]

no this is a definition of ascension/enlightement/wisdom all wrapped into one 'blah'

People can't handle the truth. So they chose not to hear me when I say things such as Tupac was probably MK-Ultra like me and that I wrote Changes, Brenda's got a baby and California etc in about 1994. The story behind the lyrics for Lucifer is another one people will never believe.

[danster82]

Its not really that compelling. All there is is this hand sign and even if is he in the Illuminati then so what the hand sign has no effect on you its picked up just as consiously as subconsciously. a Subliminal by definition is a hidden message that has an effect on the receiver so whats the effect? I can do the same hand signal to you and there will be no effect. The effect of the music is obviously negative but then almost all pop music has a negative effect as well all others mediums these days if you are able to see.

[soulja]

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hs/200712jayz.jpg

;)

[romas]

Awesome posts guys, especially menses, personally I've not read anything in programming of that direct kind of way, so hard to comment.

One thing I know is the corporate machine behind entertainment medium, they've use all means of MC to consumerize the world. And it's low level stuff, like advertising, music and movies. And all the stars need to pay taxes for their huge condos and expensive toys, even if JZ is not mason he is definately working for them knowingly or otherwise.

Check who is publisher of your favorite musician, if it's not one of major corporations it's usualy an offshoot company, strategically place to target different groups etc.

It's clear that continuous dumbification all across entertainment is taking place at an increasing rate.

[romas]

Just saw this group releasing their new album:

http://www.hellsongs.com

Called:

Order Hymns in the key of 666


And it's not even death metal, more like soft rock.

[amar7]

So what^^ Not everyone using satanic signs or phrases is necessarily involved in such things.. Nowadays it is one of the weird trends spread by the biased media just like being a "gangsta" or pimp is in......

[cleft_asunder]

Found that video, so I want to share with u

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNBnKjfqG-M&feature=related
I think there are actually Illuminati puppets in the HipHop industry aswell..what do you think?

Thank you, I wasn't aware of this. It makes me sad though because even our supposed enemies aren't really enemies. I mean J-zee doesn't seem like he has a choice. It's like he got possessed without a choice

[Ian2day]

Fuck Jay-Z, Kanye and Nas. Bunch of twats. Is it just a coincidence that Kanye named his albums the same as my time at Uni. Yeah of course I must be mad.

[romas]

Fuck Jay-Z, Kanye and Nas. Bunch of twats. Is it just a coincidence that Kanye named his albums the same as my time at Uni. Yeah of course I must be mad.


Well, it's a question whether they are volunteers or likes it was said many times, they are slaves. Like those jz lyrics said "Illuminati want my soul and my body"

[allure]

Some of you people make me embarrassed to use this forum.

OMG I JUST SEEN DIANA ROSS LICK HER LIPS SHE MUST BE A SATAN WORSHIPING SHAPESHIFTING LIZARD. COS SHE LICKED HER LIPS. THEN SHE SHOOK SOMEBODIES HAND SO THERE SHE MUST BE IN THE ILLUMINATI.

Catch a grip!

[amar7]

I think there are actually Illuminati puppets in the HipHop industry aswell..what do you think?That's what I said, to me yet after plenty of pages I'm not more convinced of that being real than in the beginning to be honest.
But over here there is for every conspiracy theory a handfull of hardcore-believer. Someone made the crazy claim that 2Pac was unter "mk ultra"
that he/she doesn't know about mind control is the prove that he mentioned MKULTRA with 2Pac.... MKULTRA is a criminal CIA research experimentation from 1953 to 1970s and Tupac was born in 1971!
And I could post other reasons, why he most probably wasn't mind controlled, there's no way to prove/disprove it anyway
ps: nice av allure ;)

[soulja]

Some of you people make me embarrassed to use this forum.

OMG I JUST SEEN DIANA ROSS LICK HER LIPS SHE MUST BE A SATAN WORSHIPING SHAPESHIFTING LIZARD. COS SHE LICKED HER LIPS. THEN SHE SHOOK SOMEBODIES HAND SO THERE SHE MUST BE IN THE ILLUMINATI.

Catch a grip!

people like you are the reason why most never get beyond 9/11 inside job, didn't ya know the fed's a scam? oh look, scary skull&bones! bilderberger rule the world and all that other obvious stuff.

shit's deep but yea of course it's easier to take the piss than doing some research.


and amar7 wrote.
MKULTRA is a criminal CIA research experimentation from 1953 to 1970s and Tupac was born in 1971!

lol! so we take the CIA's own claims for undisputable fact now?
they said they stopped it in the 70s so it must be true, i mean it's the CIA after all. they'd never lie! never!
never mind that the nazis already used mindcontrol, that the whole science behind it can be traced back at least to the book of the dead.
wich is a compilation of rituals explicitly describing methods of torture and intimidation (to create trauma), the use of potions (drugs) and the casting of spells (hypnotism), ultimately resulting in the total enslavement of the initiate.

see the illuminati were using this for ages they just took it to another level since around 1882 when the first work in Behavioral Science research was established in the U.K. even before that medical and psychiatric techniques involved in mind control were rsearched at the Kaiser Wilhelm Institute in Germany.
Tavistock Institute of Human Relations was set up in 1921 to study the "breaking point" of humans.
around 1932 was the time the Nazis were increasing their research into neuropsychology, parapsychology and multi-generational occultism.

what you think happend since then? they never made any progress?
christ they already knew and used techniques to totaly control a human being.
lol, i mean they just got better at it, new technologies were developed to speed up the process, make it even easier.
you people seem to think ok there was/is the odd MK'd person running round but that's about it. nothing could be further from the truth, by now it's epidemic and the proportions just get worse. not less.

and anyway MkUltra is just the umbrella project for over hundred sub-projects all dealing with specific forms of mindcontrol.
monarch type programing is trauma based MK (old science with newer technological methods) combined with the whole package (subprojects) to achive something known as total mind control.

to say stating this simple, verifiable facts is ''believing in hardcore conspiracies'' is ridiculous.

[lord summerisle]

I dont believe they are masons i think they are all wannabees, they have all the money but no power and then try to associate themselves with the secret societys to say look at us.

[lord summerisle]

Found this on wikipedia
Over time, the album also added fuel to the fire of conspiracy theories claiming Shakur is indeed still alive. In the album's first track "Intro/Bomb First (My Second Reply)", a muffled Shakur can be heard saying "Shoulda shot me," which is confirmed by multiple audio tests and some of The Outlawz. However for many years, it was thought that he was in fact, saying "Suge shot me," Suge being Suge Knight, Death Row Records CEO. "Intro/Bomb First (My Second Reply)" is 4:57 (adding up to 16, which itself adds up to 7). In the introduction to the song "Blasphemy", it is said, "And as the Lord does return in the coming seven days, we'll see you next time..." This song's length also adds up to 7 (4:39). Also, at the beginning of the track "Hold Ya Head", voices whisper, "Can you see him? I see him." followed by Tupac murmuring, "I'm alive." When the letters in the title of the album are re-arranged, they make a message saying "On The 7th, I'm Dead...You Really Think It?", the 13th of September 1996 being the 7th day he was in the hospital when he died. Another conspiracy theory grew around the number 7. Tupac fans who refused to believe that he was dead, were convinced he would return from self-imposed seclusion on July 7, 2007 (7/7/07). Tupac was born on the 16th (=7) and was only 25 when he died (2+5=7).

[allure]

people like you are the reason why most never get beyond 9/11 inside job, didn't ya know the fed's a scam? oh look, scary skull&bones! bilderberger rule the world and all that other obvious stuff.

shit's deep but yea of course it's easier to take the piss than doing some research.

People like me? Mate you know nothing about me. I've been reading on conspiracy topics for the past 10 years. And I wouldn't even consider that research, reading other peoples research is not exactly real research.

There are a LOT of people on here that seriously need to sit back, take a deep breath and realise that there actually is such a thing as coincidence. And there are many charlatans in this little niche.

A lot of 'conspiratainment' material knowingly ties weak facts with blatant bullshit to get their points across.

I've yet to come across a single conspiracy researcher who hasn't spoke about something as fact that I know to be complete bullshit or who puts a lot of weight on 'facts' that are extremely, extremely sketchy.

Yes the Federal Reserve is obviously a scam. You'd have to be brainless to say the Bilderberg group don't control many aspects of our lives, afterall, they are all world leaders and leaders of the biggest corporations, duh. Those are plain as days facts.

But these facts don't mix well with bullshit like 'satanic messages in rock songs when played backwards' (was a massive debate on this on here a while back... unbelievable!). Other bullshit that gets posted on here like absurd connections between illuminati and certain things like music and film. Reptile eyes someone happened to see here or there that really could be anything.

Believe me, I am very aware and awake to what is going on in the world. But I'm not a sucker who thinks something is a fact because David Icke or Alex Jones suggested it is.

[romas]

So what^^ Not everyone using satanic signs or phrases is necessarily involved in such things.. Nowadays it is one of the weird trends spread by the biased media just like being a "gangsta" or pimp is in......



I haven't said anything, I just linked it, you never wonder why so many non-metal bands using this symbology?

You are in some kind of denial, subconsciously you really like the current state of events and are willing to try and deny anything out side of the box?

[physicsuno]

After seeing a video about this a long time ago it kind of tripped me out, but the video i saw was directed by a Christian Pastor who incorporates Hip-Hop in to his sermons, so it made me think twice cause yall know how Christians can get about Mainstream Hip-Hop and Rock. If Jay Z was a Mason and part of the plot then why when he took over Def Jam he signed artist like The Roots, Nas, MOP, Ol Dirty Bastard, etc... Doesnt seem like a Mason move to sign Concious Groups who could care less about radio play. I mean if he really was about all that then wouldnt you think he would sign the same ole fluff acts that are in constant rotation. I dont know just my opinion. Plus that track mentioned above in another post (Illuminati wants my mind, soul, and my body) tells me he is fully aware of whats going on and thats an old track from his first album. Then sometimes i think maybe he is a mason and the only reason he joined was to get the power he needed to infilltrate the game. I mean he is the CEO of Def Jam now and look who he signed... Real Hip-Hop!

[amar7]

Sad when I watch that music video on how Jay-Z developed to a commercial sellout ni***
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekomM8aobQo
I still love this song, it is expressing pain in an 'innocent' way

[soulja]

After seeing a video about this a long time ago it kind of tripped me out, but the video i saw was directed by a Christian Pastor who incorporates Hip-Hop in to his sermons, so it made me think twice cause yall know how Christians can get about Mainstream Hip-Hop and Rock. If Jay Z was a Mason and part of the plot then why when he took over Def Jam he signed artist like The Roots, Nas, MOP, Ol Dirty Bastard, etc... Doesnt seem like a Mason move to sign Concious Groups who could care less about radio play. I mean if he really was about all that then wouldnt you think he would sign the same ole fluff acts that are in constant rotation. I dont know just my opinion. Plus that track mentioned above in another post (Illuminati wants my mind, soul, and my body) tells me he is fully aware of whats going on and thats an old track from his first album. Then sometimes i think maybe he is a mason and the only reason he joined was to get the power he needed to infilltrate the game. I mean he is the CEO of Def Jam now and look who he signed... Real Hip-Hop!

i wouldn't go as far as calling the above mentioned mceez conscious rap.
of course that's just my opinion what i consider conscious might means nothing to you. now if he would have signed immortal technique or bad karma, non phixion, even dead prez then i'd give him some credit. as it stands now he just wears his masonic ring, flashes the right signs, shakes hand with prince charles, makes shit loads of money is at top of his game (industry wise but by no means rap wise) wich is obviously their game. call me paranoid but i'm pretty confident when i say you don't make it in the industry if they don't let you. you either arrange with them, join them, or dissapear and if ya don't play that way they'll make you dissapear. eg the names synergy dropped a few posts earlier.

i got respect for nas, ok mainly due his first album cos every release since then wasn't even near the level of illmatic. and while it certainly was a tight rap album it never was a conscious firework imo. i wouldn't go as far as saying he never cares bout radio play either. just remembering him making a feature with puffy, track called thug life is mine or maybe that was the hook can't really recall atm. now that was some sell out pseudo gangsta shit i tell ya. also why does he try so hard to be Pac? he never will be even close to Pac.
no matter how often he drops his name in like every fifth track he does.
one of the few good tracks he did after illmatic was ether, in a battle context seen that was a bomb track. lyricly he destroyed jay on that one. imo.
but again that's by no means conscious rap, dropping one or two lines that could be interpreted like he knows something ain't gonna cut it when you got mcees outthere like technique who kicks more truth in one track than all the ones you mentioned did during their whole bloody career.

odb was just crazy that's of course due him being programed and he even said so in a song just can't remember wich one. i might dig it out sometime.
menses raised some points regarding him on the last page or so.

wu-tang ain't real hip hop, at least not anymore and Rza is a mason too.
even mos def is according to menses a mason, i dunno cos i never cared enough bout mos to look into him. never really liked his stuff.
but menses knows more on the subject than i do so i tend to believe him.
anyway, this shows you that masons/brotherhood don't just stand behind music put out by the likes of 50 cent. they control all varieties, there many different minds to reach and they want them all. ain't good enough for their agenda to only reach the ones listening to jay or 50 and eminem.

people underestimate the power/influence the music industry (and the filmindustry) holds over the human mind. especially over youngsters.
it's a very importand tool in the hands of the elite. more so than skull&bones or bilderberg.(not playing down their importance tho of course they have their purpose too)

[soulja]

People like me? Mate you know nothing about me. I've been reading on conspiracy topics for the past 10 years. And I wouldn't even consider that research, reading other peoples research is not exactly real research.

no i don't know you but i have read taking the piss comments such as yours countless of times and it's usualy by the same (or similar) type of people.
sort of agree on reading other peoples research is not excatly real research.
i do however regard it as part of research. building a fundament, a base from where one can start his own research. basic rule of thumb imo is read as much as you can. almost everything, you can't go wrong with that.
now believing everything you read without making your own mind up/researching further is of course futile.
no need to debate this but it seems like you imply that's what we do in this thread ?



There are a LOT of people on here that seriously need to sit back, take a deep breath and realise that there actually is such a thing as coincidence. And there are many charlatans in this little niche.

i'm only speaking for me now not all people on this board. obviously.

of course there is such a thing as coincidence. now in regards to handsings wich you parodied with your lips comment (?) seeing the same sign again and again by the same people does strech the coincidence idea a bit.
especially if you look into fraternities and masonry using the excat same signs .


A lot of 'conspiratainment' material knowingly ties weak facts with blatant bullshit to get their points across.

I've yet to come across a single conspiracy researcher who hasn't spoke about something as fact that I know to be complete bullshit or who puts a lot of weight on 'facts' that are extremely, extremely sketchy.

Yes the Federal Reserve is obviously a scam. You'd have to be brainless to say the Bilderberg group don't control many aspects of our lives, afterall, they are all world leaders and leaders of the biggest corporations, duh. Those are plain as days facts.

But these facts don't mix well with bullshit like 'satanic messages in rock songs when played backwards' (was a massive debate on this on here a while back... unbelievable!). Other bullshit that gets posted on here like absurd connections between illuminati and certain things like music and film. Reptile eyes someone happened to see here or there that really could be anything.


fedreserve, bilderberger and like you pointed out rock music don't need to get mixed because those subjects are complete different fields of research.
i never heard anyone debate the federal reserve to then go on to say 'oh and btw they mix satanic verses into rocksongs''
can't say anything about that anyway cos i never looked into the whole played backwards thingy but one thing i vehemently disagree with you is the connection between illuminati/masons/brotherhood in all forms and music and films.you must be blind and deaf to not see or hear their influence there.
agreed on the reptile eye btw.



Believe me, I am very aware and awake to what is going on in the world. But I'm not a sucker who thinks something is a fact because David Icke or Alex Jones suggested it is.

neither do i ;)

[razed1]

People like me? Mate you know nothing about me. I've been reading on conspiracy topics for the past 10 years. And I wouldn't even consider that research, reading other peoples research is not exactly real research.

There are a LOT of people on here that seriously need to sit back, take a deep breath and realise that there actually is such a thing as coincidence. And there are many charlatans in this little niche.

A lot of 'conspiratainment' material knowingly ties weak facts with blatant bullshit to get their points across.

I've yet to come across a single conspiracy researcher who hasn't spoke about something as fact that I know to be complete bullshit or who puts a lot of weight on 'facts' that are extremely, extremely sketchy.

Yes the Federal Reserve is obviously a scam. You'd have to be brainless to say the Bilderberg group don't control many aspects of our lives, afterall, they are all world leaders and leaders of the biggest corporations, duh. Those are plain as days facts.

But these facts don't mix well with bullshit like 'satanic messages in rock songs when played backwards' (was a massive debate on this on here a while back... unbelievable!). Other bullshit that gets posted on here like absurd connections between illuminati and certain things like music and film. Reptile eyes someone happened to see here or there that really could be anything.

Believe me, I am very aware and awake to what is going on in the world. But I'm not a sucker who thinks something is a fact because David Icke or Alex Jones suggested it is.

yea ppl like YOU are the problem

you think you know so much, after "10 years of research" like you CLAIM, you still cant put the picture together??? mind control and satanic worship are ludicrous to you??

maybe you should get your head checked for BRAIN DAMAGE, cause after 10 years and you no better off than the billions of sheep that are unaware

your yuppy mind is illustrated when you make this statement:

"there actually is such a thing as coincidence."

youre on the david icke forum, and if you actually paid attention to any of icke's work, you would see one of the FIRST things he has his audience consider is what if the reality is that there is no random occurence, no such thing as coincidence, that everything that happens was meant to happen

but i dont expect you or the ppl like you understand where im comin from, cause 10 years of 'research' it seems was wasted, maybe you should better spend your time pickin peanuts out of poop, itll be alot more productive than what you been doin

[menses]

The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies have programmed thousands upon thousands of slaves. There are only so many code words to pick from and some of these code words are favorites. From the co-author Fritz Springmeier’s experience, the following are favorite code words that have been used to program slaves with:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/Illum...ulaindex.shtml



CHARLOTTE, CHECKMATE, CHRISTMAS, CLARA, CLOVERLEAF, COURIER, CRAYON, CRYSTAL, DAISY, DAVY, DELLA, DELTA, DEMON, DIANA, DINAH, DIRTY, DIME, DOT, DOVE, DRAGON, DUCK, DUMBO, EAGLE, EASY, ECHO, ELAINE, ELEPHANT, ELLEN, EMERALD, EMPIRE, ESTER, EUREKA, EVERGREEN, FAITH, FALCON, FARMER, FELIX, FIREFLY, FIVE BROTHERS, FIVE SISTERS, FLASHLIGHT

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



You mean these FLASHING LIGHTS ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEccxPPwXmI

http://www.kanyelive.com/downloads/flashinglightsitunes.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEccxPPwXmI

Lights, in certain colors and sequences, have been used to trance alters out, for instance a flashing red light may trance certain alters out. Tunnels were used as a powerful hypnotic suggestion. Bear in mind, that people induct when:

a. physically or mentally relaxed,

b. when their senses are overloaded or exposed to sense deprivation,

c. when their equilibrium is disturbed,

d. their motion is restricted or

e. their eyes are fixated on something.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4Bchap.shtml

“I AM THE SAND MAN, AND BLOW SAND IN YOUR EYES” said while simultaneously moving the hand over the face to create the illusion of placing sand in the eyes.



Does Kanye look disturbed to you in that video? Does he look like his motion is restricted while being tied up? Looks that way to me....

Does one get sand in their eyes when they are about to be buried alive on a beach? You tell me.....

The Monarch slave has an internal world built inside their mind in which the hundreds and thousands of alters must live in. The alters are given a psychotic world of fiction in which they must live in as reality. An alter of a Monarch slave will have two worlds, the external world of reality, and their own internal world which, because of the programming, will seem more real than the real world. Monarch slaves very frequently have castles built into their internal world. Some slaves will have a whole series of castles, some are King’s castles, some are Queen’s castles, and some are castle’s shaped liked pyramids with all-seeing eyes in them


(http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esm4csi/nwo/MindControl/Chapter07.2_Unknown.htm)



You Mean This Castle? Or is it a Pyramid with an "All Seeing Eye"? You Tell Me?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/ea/94/c2f9619009a0b78b0f4f4110.L.jpg

Alters within a Monarch system are not allowed to stray from the path assigned to them. If they try to move out of their assigned spot in the mind, then they encounter traps, mazes, tunnels and demons

http://www.xs4all.nl/%7Esm4csi/nwo/MindControl/Chapter07.2_Unknown.htm



Does this look like an Internal World with Tunnels & Demons to you? Looks that way to me...

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/88/da/3677e893e7a0d2eae5f45110.L.jpg

The programmers and parents of slaves frequently give stuffed animals. The teddy bear without hands represents to the victim their helplessness.





You mean this Bear?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/a2/0e/f36f828fd7a03a5a02a61110.L.jpg

Does Kanye seem a bit helpless to you?

[menses]

CHARLOTTE, CHECKMATE, CHRISTMAS, CLARA, CLOVERLEAF, COURIER, CRAYON, CRYSTAL, DAISY, DAVY, DELLA, DELTA, DEMON, DIANA, DINAH, DIRTY, DIME, DOT, DOVE, DRAGON, DUCK, DUMBO, EAGLE, EASY, ECHO, ELAINE, ELEPHANT, ELLEN, EMERALD, EMPIRE, ESTER, EUREKA, EVERGREEN, FAITH, FALCON, FARMER, FELIX, FIREFLY, FIVE BROTHERS, FIVE SISTERS, FLASHLIGHT

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



You Mean This Ester?

http://youthoughtso.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/madonna-adopt.jpg

Madonna wants you to call her by the Hebrew name she's chosen for herself as a follower of Kabbalah. But Esther? Says, errr, Esther on ABC's 20/20 tonight, "I wanted to attach myself to the energy of a different name." This is probably the most interesting reinvention Madonna's had in years

http://www.freakingnews.com/Madonna-Pictures--292.asp


All memories, traumas, and tortures are coded.
Body programs are coded. One set of body programs uses Hebrew, Greek, and Druidic letters.

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



Codes to all the various basic systems

Carousel 532342223
Castle System 221435321
Communication 311146623
Double Helix 432443321
Level 211343231
Mensa System 3235423
Quabala 423454334

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



Kabballah or Quabala....hmmm?

http://www.illuminati-news.com/art-and-mc/Graphics/madonna.jpg

[lightgiver]

IMO Jay Z has definetly sold his soul for fame, musicians have always done it, havent you ever wondered why reggae has never taken off in a big way because the spiritual rastas refused to sell out, its the same with early hip hop, the sound was surpressed for 20 years until they could find some fools willing to sell out.

http://www.jayzonline.com/media/pictures/18.jpg


http://library.thinkquest.org/05aug/00158/images/allseeingeye.jpg

Bob marley,
RAT RACE,

Rasta no work for no CIA:eek:;)rat race.....
listen to it, them ras clat rappers:(

[menses]

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2004/04/news/040517/jayz.jpg

Jay-Z is for all intensive purposes...an initiate, a 1st generation Mason...meaning that he will never get beyond the 33rd degree in his lifetime....His children of course will be able to go well beyond the 33rd..

.(I wonder why Nick Carter of the backstreet got a job at the U.N.?....hmmm?) Beyonce on the other hand is another story. I encourage folks to find out the history behind the last name "Knowles"...you won't be dissapointed....She is of course a 2nd generation Mason..most major film stars are 3rd generation..(This is the reason her movie roles will be limited...its not for lack of talent..she is programmed)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22896&page=14



http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/deadalive/jayzskullandbones.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/masonicskull.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxzQesWbb5Y

[disorder2k8]

Tupac & Biggie(and all the rest!) were probably bumped off to sustain/amplify westcoast/eastcoast tensions

[soulja]

brilliant posts Menses, as always. it's a blessing to have people like you around.

Tupac & Biggie(and all the rest!) were probably bumped off to sustain/amplify westcoast/eastcoast tensions

nah that was just a convenient smokescreen for the killings.
besides, the whole east/west ''conflict'' pretty much died after the shootings you even had Snoop, doggpound and jay on the same track.

[schaff]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v284/deadalive/jayzskullandbones.jpg

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/masonicskull.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxzQesWbb5Y

Does anybody know wether it applies to all music. For example would someone like eric clapton have to be a mason to have his continued level of success?

[stealth]

I bet jay-z will be back at glastonbury next year for more of the pyramid stage.:eek:

[soulja]

Does anybody know wether it applies to all music. For example would someone like eric clapton have to be a mason to have his continued level of success?

http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z242/sjashideout/skullz/sq-bw_skull_ring98-wbr.jpg

it's kinda hard to make the skull out but i got the pic from MTV and it's called skull_ring..
http://www.mtv.com/shared/media/news/images/c/Clapton_Eric/sq-bw_skull_ring98-wbr.jpg (http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z242/sjashideout/skullz/sq-bw_skull_ring98-wbr.jpg)

and if that's not enough for you try this:
http://www.serioussilver.com/images/photos/skulls_bones/eric_clapton_skull_ring2.jpg
This heavyweight ring was modeled after the one worn by Eric Clapton.
http://www.serioussilver.com/handmade_silver_gold_jewelry_details.php?ide=59

or this
Chaps- both Keith Richards and Eric Clapton got their skull rings from Crazy Pig Designs in Covent Garden, London, which is where I got mine from.
http://www.moronosphere.com/archives/skull_lust.php

[amar7]

Does anybody know wether it applies to all music. For example would someone like eric clapton have to be a mason to have his continued level of success?

I think as a succesful artist (especially musician and actor) either you have to work with them, so you become even more famous or you shut up
Everything else is very risky to the artists carrier
Just look at Immortal Technique.. He speaks out on some stuff (yet still silent about Israel and the racist sick jewish religion for example, cuz that'd probably be his end) and he sells only some hundret thousand copies of his CD.
50Crack sells multi-platinum and he isn't half that skilled

[soulja]

You mean this Bear?

http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/01/ciu/a2/0e/f36f828fd7a03a5a02a61110.L.jpg

Does Kanye seem a bit helpless to you?

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hs/Korn-freaks.jpg

[psych641]

well no ones perfect..

immortal technique: violent revolutionary = matrix
dead prez: violent revolutionaries + play the race card = matrix
canibus: arguably glamourizes the military, pessimistic/madmax survivalist = matrix
phi life cypher: arguably homophobic in places?
krs-one: hmm... mentions christ a lot?


And i speak as a fan. They all raise awareness &/or consciousness, but you could make a case for at some of them being shills, if you were so inclined (which im not btw).

[abrilliantone]

(quote.menses)

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/masonicskull.jpg


menses who's hand is that?

[Ian2day]

I expect Tupac or 2pac as I came up with. Was killed for finding out who wrote his lyrics. Roc-a-fella was actually my respelling of Rockefeller before I knew about all the Globalist baloney. I came up with it as I wanted the music to rock each and every fella who heard it. I even came up with the name Blok and the 2 cube logo. The teddy bear used by Kanye West also is mine. Basically I was being bugged for 28 years. By all different groups. Political, industrial and entertainment. So many fingers, so many pies. All converging in my life. Now either I am mad or?

What possible explanation can there be if I'm not lying and I'm not mad. Maybe I'm mad or I have been fed false memories for a reason. Why would anyone go to the trouble of filling me with false memories. All I can think is that I am a MK-Ultra subject, manchurian candidate or the victim of theft. Or I am mad. Maybe they are trying to make me into a patsy.

[sorath]

I expect Tupac or 2pac as I came up with. Was killed for finding out who wrote his lyrics. Roc-a-fella was actually my respelling of Rockefeller before I knew about all the Globalist baloney. I came up with it as I wanted the music to rock each and every fella who heard it. I even came up with the name Blok and the 2 cube logo. The teddy bear used by Kanye West also is mine. Basically I was being bugged for 28 years. By all different groups. Political, industrial and entertainment. So many fingers, so many pies. All converging in my life. Now either I am mad or?

What possible explanation can there be if I'm not lying and I'm not mad. Maybe I'm mad or I have been fed false memories for a reason. Why would anyone go to the trouble of filling me with false memories. All I can think is that I am a MK-Ultra subject, manchurian candidate or the victim of theft. Or I am mad. Maybe they are trying to make me into a patsy.

I wish you would just give it up. You have pretty much ruined a really interesting thread with your inane nonsense. You are not a lyrics a genius you are infact a twat. :D

[soulja]

so Ian what you're saying is you came up with Pac's lyrics ? and techniques and Jay's you also came up with a number of brandnames and basicly half the youth culture we see is your brainchild ?

what else did you invent ? the wheel ?


sry for the next pic couldn't find a smaller version

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hs/criss_angel-pyramid.jpg
Chriss Angel

here with his buddy Baba of Vintage Tattoo Parlor
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hs/criss_angel-freemasonry.jpg
''nice'' shirt

like this one
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg55/ancientsoul82/hs/criss_angel-nwo3.jpg

i know it's a thread bout mceez but i thought chriss does not deserve a thread of his own..

[Ian2day]

I wish you would just give it up. You have pretty much ruined a really interesting thread with your inane nonsense. You are not a lyrics a genius you are infact a twat. :D

Is that it? Is that all you can come up with. At least attempt to critique me with some sort of display of deconstructing what I'm saying. Apart from just using a very mild insult. Sure some substance.

[amar7]

2Pac wrote nearly all the lyrics on his own (only exception I know is "Holla If Ye Hear Me" by Dr. Eric Dyson) I personally think you just want some attention and don't believe yourself what ur writing..
Anyway please don't spam around with this here, if you want to, make an own thread about your fantasies.
Stay OnTopic, thnx

[sorath]

Is that it? Is that all you can come up with. At least attempt to critique me with some sort of display of deconstructing what I'm saying. Apart from just using a very mild insult. Sure some substance.
I will not pander to your blatant ego.

[dane]

i enjoy being givin a chance to see through their tv reality when possible, i will def be taking a look at fritz's material thanks menses. id love to kno more about behind the scenes of bizzy bone and such. nice to see others listening to immortal and jedi mind tricks.its weird seeing all these celebrities and tryna get rid of their image on tv in my mind and imagine their programming sessions and escapades.menses should get a thread up reguarding previous info and more.
because all this helps to paint a more obvious yet totally unseen truth to our supposed idols.

Ian2day i liked those rhymes back a few pages, i was lost to what it was.
if they yours good shit man, i can't tell you which reality you should be in or wether what you claim is right or wrong, nor can i judge what you say, i simply was feeling the rhymes, that id like to hear audio wise. can you spit it?

[Ian2day]

can you spit it?
I need to get some raw beats and have a play with a mic and mixer. I'm not bragging but I tend to master things after I have done it repetitively for a while. Once in a groove, be it creative or whatever I take charge.

[menses]

The Illuminati’s intelligence agencies have programmed thousands upon thousands of slaves. There are only so many code words to pick from and some of these code words are favorites. From the co-author Fritz Springmeier’s experience, the following are favorite code words that have been used to program slaves with:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



CHARLOTTE, CHECKMATE, CHRISTMAS, CLARA, CLOVERLEAF, COURIER, CRAYON, CRYSTAL, DAISY, DAVY, DELLA, DELTA, DEMON, DIANA, DINAH, DIRTY, DIME, DOT, DOVE, DRAGON, DUCK, DUMBO, EAGLE, EASY, ECHO, ELAINE, ELEPHANT, ELLEN, EMERALD, EMPIRE, ESTER, EUREKA, EVERGREEN, FAITH, FALCON, FARMER, FELIX, FIREFLY, FIVE BROTHERS, FIVE SISTERS, FLASHLIGHT, FLOSSY, FLYING + [other word], FOX, FREEZE, FRIENDSHIP, FULL HOUSE, QUEEN BEE

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml





The Music Industry is Masonic..their game is mind control....its greatest composer was mason..ie Mozart...Why 3 6 mafia get an oscar? cuz they are masons...whats their label called? "Hypnotizing Minds"...

RZA is a Mason....ODB was a Mind Controlled Slave...and he knew it this is why he was acting like a lunatic during the last couple years of his life, especially after he turned "30"....MK Ultra is masonic in nature...

"Me & Mariah go back like baby's & pacifiers".....

Mariah Carey aka Mimi = split personality....Mind Controlled Slave...you see they love to pair them Slaves together....Carey and ODB both went nuts around the sametime...



OLD "DIRTY" BASTARD
http://www.six-zro.com/images/rappagesODB.jpg

Body Programs

Control program. See Omega Programming- Universal Function Codes for internal system codes for body programs. Sometimes these body programs are filed with a combination of hebrew and zodiac signs. Greek letters are also file no.s of at times of body programs. Rivers of blood -circulation control program. This program totally controls the circulatory system. The victim may think they are losing lots of blood & go into heart failure. Octopus- strangulation suicide program The internal defenses consists in part of body programs that are triggered if the Mind-controlled slave steps out of line. Here is a good list of some of these body programs each of which has its own codes:

http://educate-yourself.org/mc/illumformula4chap.shtml



Cutting programs are often hidden behind the Bee Swarming program. Along with the suicide programs that can be triggered are programs that jerk the victim’s mind every which way, which include: Bee Stinging Program (put in by placing the drugged victim being near large swarms of bees humming & then letting a bee(s) sting the victim)



Oh You Mean These Killer Bee's?

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51MHWE8M3WL._SL500_AA240_.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isumZjs3dKA

This just in, Police are reporting that theres a man on top of a skyscraper ready to jump, I'm told it is possibly O'l Dirty, a member of the Wu-Tang Clan.....

Did Old Dirty Bastard step out of line?

A Bullet For Big Baby Jesus
Ol' Dirty Bastard Claims the FBI and CIA are Trying to Kill Him. Is He Crazy?

by Peter Noel

http://www.villagevoice.com/news/9903,214422,3698,1.html

[amethyst]

I wish you would just give it up. You have pretty much ruined a really interesting thread with your inane nonsense. You are not a lyrics a genius you are infact a twat. :D

Maybe he's telling the truth. Unless you've walked in someone else's shoes.......

[abrilliantone]

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/masonicskull.jpg


O.K can anyone tell me who's hand is that?

[razed1]

its from some freemason's hand, not jay-z, its form a article that was done about how freemasonry is opening its doors to more ppl becuase of the recent increase in awareness about masonry, really a PR attempt to trivialize masonry so that ppl think its soem good ol boys club and go back to sleep

what i find interesting is that all those men who go to masonry to seek 'higher' knowledge, dont they see something wrong with seeing skulls and crossbones everywhere?? occult knowledge, higher knowledge doesnt have to be about skulls and the macabre, but corrupt ppl who run masonry want to bathe their unsuspecting adepts into a world of evil and sacrifice,

you can see the "A" atonist eagle symbol there, go see the works of michael tsarion to learn more about the ATON, the deity these ppl have worshipped for the last 3000 yrs, yes this stuff goes back to egypt, (like you needed me to tell you that), but what most dont realize is that egypt wasnt some homogeneous group who all beleived the same principles, later on, in the last days of that empire, there was a corrupted form of sun worship, which is called ATONism, and that is the principles that the illuminati have worhsipped in their NWO for a few millenia, the jews, the christians, they dont know that their religions are a disguised form of aton worship

[soulja]

interesting part in the Nas track ''Be A Nigger Too''

Cuz y'all some tellers, opposite of bankers
I'm the shit for ages
My click's still real QB gangsters
Click still moving like Freemasons
So if i'm in on the floor for the law
There's lodgers all across the nation
Nas is bred for the plan
To hold a grand dragon's head in my hand
Come and get me, here I am

http://www.elyricsworld.com/be_a_nigger_too_lyrics_nas.html

[soulja]

OLD "DIRTY" BASTARD
http://www.six-zro.com/images/rappagesODB.jpg

COINCIDENCE?

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ktpVOqBCg&feature=related
listen carefully to this documentary..

[deesee]

Has it been mentioned that one of ODB's monikers/recording alias's was Osiris, the core Egyptian Masonic deity?

[soulja]

http://i247.photobucket.com/albums/gg145/2tuff2006/masonicskull.jpg


O.K can anyone tell me who's hand is that?

http://warofillusions.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/38818449.jpg
dude calls himself Zulu, check the link for more..
http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2008/05/24/the-new-generation-of-freemasonry/#comment-221

[abrilliantone]

thanks soulja:)

[Ian2day]

interesting part in the Nas track ''Be A Nigger Too''

Cuz y'all some tellers, opposite of bankers
I'm the shit for ages
My click's still real QB gangsters
Click still moving like Freemasons
So if i'm in on the floor for the law
There's lodgers all across the nation
Nas is bred for the plan
To hold a grand dragon's head in my hand
Come and get me, here I am

http://www.elyricsworld.com/be_a_nigger_too_lyrics_nas.html

I could explain it. But someone would jump all over me for daring to suggest what I know is what. Substitute nas with another three letter name.

[razed1]

soulja are you the same trusoulja that did that article on "exposing" Tsarion, that c.white and other morons use as their main point of argument??

it was posted originally on the the old icke forum

[soulja]

yea i did that article two years ago or so..

Baron kept going on about tsarion being rosicrucian so i wanted to find out for myself.

[razed1]

well, i dont understand how you can be so deluded to think that what you wrote was actually anykind of worthwhile research, all you did was essentially look at the logos/symbols of the rosicriucians and and list the biographies of krishnamurti and others, and this was supposed to somehow expose tsarion as a fraud and a illuminati agent??

[soulja]

lol, i see you understood that tsarion post i've made well :rolleyes:

worthwile or not can anyone decide for themselves. it was research in that i used his bio and the names he gave us on his official site to show how all the people he mentioned are/were elite. i didn't start to research with the thought ''let's prove he's rosicrucian or something'' but simply out of personal interest, cos i liked his research, especially the one on symbolism and baron kept saying he's brotherhood so i wanted to know and looked into that.

do you see me running around telling everyone ''look look i 'exposed' tsarion'' ?!
no i don't, i posted it first on illusions then on the old forum and that's it.

not my fault that 2 years later guys like white pick it up and use it.

but i don't have a problem with it tbh, i posted it on an open forum so of course anyone can use it or try to disprove it.

[razed1]

yea yea,

i read your whole post, and the ppl that are mentioned are not the "elites" that you claim they are, and just cuase the theosophical socitey and these groups were later infiltrated and controlled by the agents of these zionist british israelists, doesnt mean that they are in the same group as ppl mentioned by tsarion,

to simply class them as "elites" is not a prudent thing to do

the ppl that tsarion mentioned in his bio are not the same as the "elites" that your talking about

ppl do incomplete research and just fill in the blanks, when it comes to what they think those groups are about,

i mean for exmaple, you mention in your post how cause tsarion banner on his webpage is the cross that is used by the rosicrucians, that one your points to prove that he is a rosicrucian,

this is laughable, these symbols are not created nor limited to use by this illuminati and the corrupted elites, they have meanings relating to the tarot and other mystical teachings that far predate any of these evil elites,

tsarion never said he was a rosicrucian, just that he went and studied some of their material, thats like saying cause icke or j.maxwell has read/sourced material from freemasons, that they are a bunch of freemasons,


i read you posts years ago when you first posted, and i recognized it for the closed minded, banter that it was back then,

i dont really care that these so called debunkers are using it,

but i wanted you to know, that i hope YOU realize yourself what your were saying and ALLUDING to in that post was and is NOT the truth, imean a few years later, has your understanding of this occult symbolism evolved, or are you still like the barons of the world, who have primitive, childlike understanding of this occult stuff


you say you like his work on symbolism, but have you bothered to read his other material??

[soulja]

yea yea,

i read your whole post, and the ppl that are mentioned are not the "elites" that you claim they are, and just cuase the theosophical socitey and these groups were later infiltrated and controlled by the agents of these zionist british israelists, doesnt mean that they are in the same group as ppl mentioned by tsarion, to simply class them as "elites" is not a prudent thing to do the ppl that tsarion mentioned in his bio are not the same as the "elites" that your talking about


then perhaps your memory sucks ?

with elite i was talking bout people like

- Shirley McLaine who was an oscar winning actor, played with the likes of Eastwood and Nicholson.

- Dr. Edgar Mitchell a Navy Captain who was part of NASA's Apollo 14 mission.

- Le Corbusier who was one of the architects of the UN HQ

- Keith Critchlow who worked for the Prince of Wales Institute before he went to ''Facilities Management Fredericton Operations'' wich operates and maintains provincial government owned buildings and provides accommodations related support services to government departments occupying space in owned and leased buildings.

and his big time mentor Paul Solomon who was friends with Barbara Marx Hubbard for example and one of the Founders of the Findhorn Community.
also operated the Paul solomon foundation. talks about how he and tsarion are meta humans, master souls and all that rosicrucian kinda ''we're special/elite talk''

then about how Tsarions articles were featured in columns of the Psychic Reader wich is the official organ of the Berkeley Psychic Institute in California
they use the rose as logo, it's founder Dr. Lewis S. Bostwick was also the founder of The Church of divine man wich uses the rose on a cross as logo.

i didn't use logos and his banner as proof as you claim, they were more like little additions, confirmations if you like or of course just coincidence.
however you wanna see it.


ppl do incomplete research and just fill in the blanks, when it comes to what they think those groups are about,

and some do none but only parrot what their favourite conspiracy teachers say ;) (example - theosophy was taken over and not started from day1 by the brotherhood)


i mean for exmaple, you mention in your post how cause tsarion banner on his webpage is the cross that is used by the rosicrucians, that one your points to prove that he is a rosicrucian,

this is laughable, these symbols are not created nor limited to use by this illuminati and the corrupted elites, they have meanings relating to the tarot and other mystical teachings that far predate any of these evil elites,

no it wasn't, see above answer of mine (confirmation/coincidence)
agree to an extend on the second part tho.


tsarion never said he was a rosicrucian, just that he went and studied some of their material, thats like saying cause icke or j.maxwell has read/sourced material from freemasons, that they are a bunch of freemasons,

at that time (roughly 2years ago) he said it is a private matter and he doesn't want to talk about it. his bio on his own site statet that he was affiliated with the rosicrucians and sufis. what he says now about his rosicrucian ''past'' i don't know.


i read you posts years ago when you first posted, and i recognized it for the closed minded, banter that it was back then,

i dont really care that these so called debunkers are using it,

me neither..



but i wanted you to know, that i hope YOU realize yourself what your were saying and ALLUDING to in that post was and is NOT the truth, imean a few years later, has your understanding of this occult symbolism evolved, or are you still like the barons of the world, who have primitive, childlike understanding of this occult stuff

you say you like his work on symbolism, but have you bothered to read his other material??

well, what i ''alluded'' to as you word it may not be the truth but the connections are real and for everyone to check out.

[soulja]

and yes i have bothered with his other material, in his book atlantis - alien visitation he goes on about Ascended Masters and how the good guys were called ''the Adepts of the Rose''

Atlantis Alien Visitation and Genetic Manipulation
by Michael Tsarion - Excerpts from pg 140-142 :

"When Sir John Dee opened the pan-dimensional portal and spoke with the Macrobes...it was immediately intuited by the descendants of the "Sons of the Serpents," that is the descendants of the Lemurian civilization....the descendants of the Sons ( who for now we will refer to as the ADEPTS OF THE ROSE) are endowed with masterful intellects and creative abilities and are constantly warding off the belligerent strategies and advances from their arch-enemies, Serpant Masters. They keep their identities concealed, but have been attempting to awaken their less conscious fellow hybrid humans and to rebalance the planet's etheric energies.

The high priests and priestesses within the ADEPTS OF THE ROSE have (from pre-diluvian days) closely monitored and counteracted the machinations of their nemesis. In the 16th Century, they sensed the colossal rip in the etheric dimensions and were troubled that their adversarial cousins had committed such a deplorable and prohibited deed. They knew the consequences of necromantic communion with pan--dimentional entities could be incalculable and foresaw much tribulation ahead. They realized that extraordinary measures had to be taken if disaster of cosmic proportions was to be averted.

The ADEPTS OF THE ROSE called their leaders from all over the planet and held counsel. They finally came to the conclusion that to rebalance the energy another celestial portal had to be opened. Thus it became necessary to enter into dialogue with the Ascended Masters. The ADEPTS OF THE ROSE realized that without the help of such intelligences there was no hope. The portal was successfully opened and the Ascended Masters were able to give pivotal info....

We seek next to finally disclose some of the most salient points communicated to the ADEPTS OF THE ROSE. The ADEPTS let it be understood that the Nephilim could not be fought in direct combat or with energy that reciprocates their own natures or machinations....

The success of eradicating the virus is entirely contingent upon the patient acting in accordance with the advice of any homeopathic doctor. This is what the ADEPTS OF THE ROSE were told by the Ascended Masters."

[razed1]

holy crap you ppl have a one track mind, you cant comprehend the shit
mayne

can you not understand that maybe things which we have today were remnants of things that were once used for good??

i havent heard tsarion talk on any of those ppl you mention,

and the only one he says he received info was form paul solomon, his grandfather was involved in the course in miracles

but what does this mean, have you bothered to look at what this course in miracles is talking about??


why cant you understand that this knowledge is not just secluded to the corrupt elites, and just cause he refers to tsarion as a meta-child, or whatever, do you understand the meaning of the word meta??

dont you see how there are degrees of intelligence in ppl, some are really stupid and some are really bright, so now it means that hes form the illuminati that paul solomon called him a meta child,


i dont get why its so hard for you ppl to do some actual HOMEWORK, meaning sit down and read the materials that you are so quick to comment on an make judgment,

its cause of the type of "research" that you do, where you have some preconceived idea about how YOU think the world is, and then you just look for little tidbits of info and then just come to your own conclusion,

and dont you see how these new "debunkers" jumped on debunking tsarion right when his book was coming out, and used your misinformed posts, cause nobody else wouldve spent the time writing that up, who was actually paying attention to the subject matter at hand


my beef is that you are picking little points to 'debunk" that really have NO bearing on just wtf tsarion is actually talking about,, really, what is more important for you know his personal family history, or to read look and comment on this actual research???

id have alot more respect for you if your posts had actually commented and showed exactly how tsarion was wrong in his research,

and dont show some bullshit picture of giants and say oh that proves that tsarion is wrong,

you and all those ppl who used to post on old icke forum, and the illusions, that just love wallowing in ignorance an filth, REALLY piss me off, cause instead of coming up with some constructive shit, youre all about debunking and trying to tear down ppl research, and these parasites that have recently appeared, debunking asro-theology and all these other topics/researchers, they LOVE ppl like you, cause they know that you dont do any real deep thinking and are just so easily manipulated by one liners here and there, and thesis that dont make any sense,

youre WRONG son,

DEAD WRONG

[sindakit]

so........... this has gone so far off topic we've went full circle and we're back on it :P

I'm goin to a jay-z gig 2mw? i've seen him before but this time i'll be looking at things a lil different.

[synak]

Jay Z and friends Bill Gates and Prince Charles.

http://i35.tinypic.com/13yejo.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/xeg36s.jpg

[synak]

http://i37.tinypic.com/201bgh.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/jae8oj.jpg
http://i38.tinypic.com/15zns7t.jpg

http://i38.tinypic.com/2hn01vp.jpg
Russel Simmons & his brother of Run DMC with Charles

[awakening]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/gekkemike/maskassassin_L.jpg
1. The Initiation
2. Mask And The Assassin
3. Ciclon
4. Land Of Shadows
5. God's Banker
6. Reptilian Renaissance
7. Praying Mantis
8. El Barrio
9. Interlude
10. Unorthodox Blocks
11. The Hole (P.O.W.)
12. Stairs To The Beast
13. Black Ships
14. Rebel Angel
15. Silent Crimes
http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/gekkemike/maskassassin_L.jpg
[COLOR="Red"]1. The Initiation
------------------->[CENTER]http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=Ycx_G28P7S0<---------------------

he is rappin about allot of interesting stuff,reptilians,shapeshifting etc

[amethyst]

Jay Z and friends Bill Gates and Prince Charles.

http://i35.tinypic.com/13yejo.jpg
http://i34.tinypic.com/xeg36s.jpg

As the old saying goes, "birds of a feather, flock together":rolleyes:

[synak]

As the old saying goes, "birds of a feather, flock together"

Indeed. I don't see how anyone who isn't somehow involved could be so closely associated with those characters.

[amethyst]

Indeed. I don't see how anyone who isn't somehow involved could be so closely associated with those characters.

....or do the same type of hand signals, or wear the same type of jewelry, or keep going to the same type of functions and get involved in the same type of causes etc. etc.

Another old saying that might apply......"If it looks like a skunk, and acts like a skunk, and smells like a skunk........it IS a skunk" :D:D:D

[Ian2day]

The biggest ones always have the biggest grins.

[awakening]

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k25/gekkemike/mobb_deep_blood_money-1.jpg


another hiphop album cover with a pyramid.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

'Hip Hop'... another tool pushed by the 'elite' to corrupt disenfranchised young minds...

The Hegelian Dialectic.

How can anyone listen to that degenerate, cacophonic bilge? :-/ It's the polar opposite of classical music.
I'm sure there's lots of esoteric imagery on those album covers- courtesy of those who run the system...

[Ian2day]

I've been MK-Ultra'd. They are trying to trigger me to act. A lot of the advertising on the cover of magazines carries subliminal messages and key phrases. Even the eyes and smiles of the models on some are changed to look satanic. They are a clever bunch for sure. So they use mass NLP sessions on groups of 2-400 people and they programme huge amounts of the population to be manchurian candidates for the elite. McKenna did it in the UK and it was a success so now he has gone to Americ to try and create some more subjects to be patsy's or whatever. Its linked into Hip Hop as McKenna use to be a DJ for capital FM. They want some high position people out of the way and they have programmed loads of people to do it for them. Well I'm not going to do what they want me to do. I'm going to go against my programming and find the architect of it all. They think they can mess with me and other people in such a way and they are wrong so very wrong.

[w1nstonsm1th84]

I've been MK-Ultra'd. They are trying to trigger me to act. A lot of the advertising on the cover of magazines carries subliminal messages and key phrases. Even the eyes and smiles of the models on some are changed to look satanic. They are a clever bunch for sure. So they use mass NLP sessions on groups of 2-400 people and they programme huge amounts of the population to be manchurian candidates for the elite. McKenna did it in the UK and it was a success so now he has gone to Americ to try and create some more subjects to be patsy's or whatever. Its linked into Hip Hop as McKenna use to be a DJ for capital FM. They want some high position people out of the way and they have programmed loads of people to do it for them. Well I'm not going to do what they want me to do. I'm going to go against my programming and find the architect of it all. They think they can mess with me and other people in such a way and they are wrong so very wrong.

I have no doubt at all that that kind of thing takes place... the 'elite' and their lackeys are are rotten (evil) to the core. I've read about the Project Monarch- it is truly sickening...

[1976]

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's Bizzy Bone will come forward with the tragic tale of his own childhood abduction on the May 25 episode of "America's Most Wanted."

"Little Bizzy Bone's got a story, and the story is a little deeper than just one-way bus
tickets to Eazy-E in Los Angeles," said the Cleveland rapper, who was abducted by the biological father of one of his sisters in the early '80s.

Bizzy and his sisters were lied to for more than a year by their kidnapper and were led to believe that their mother was dead. Meanwhile, their mother was very much alive and working with "America's Most Wanted" host John Walsh to search for her children. A picture of Bizzy, who was on a reservation in Oklahoma, was shown at the end of the 1983 TV movie "Adam" and led to his return.

"I was gone from 4 years old to 5 years old," said Bizzy, now 25. "A neighbor who used to baby-sit me for the fella who abducted my sisters and I saw the show. My name was changed, I had hair all over my face. And that's how we were found.

"When we were in school," he continued, "they called me and my sisters down and were interrogating us, asking us our last names. I ain't never been a snitch, even as a baby, so I kept telling them the fake name, 'Jones, Jones, Jones.' And eventually my sister broke it like, 'You can tell.' "

Bizzy was later returned to his mother's custody, but not unscathed.

"There was a lot of mental abuse. There are a lot of things you will see on the episode that will shock a lot of people. It was more mental abuse than anything to really think your mother is dead, to really think your grandmother is dead, to believe a whole false scenario that someone places in front of you and you being a child that is easily manipulated.

"We were getting chased by the FBI and police. I remember hiding in vans and hiding under clothes. It was made to be a game, but it wasn't a f---ing game. To this day, I still find myself looking around the corner when the police come."

Bizzy said telling his story has been therapeutic and that he hopes his experience helps other victimized children. He's glad things have finally settled down enough for him to properly address the episode.

"When I got into the business there was so much going on, with E dying and the new thing coming in," he said. "I couldn't concentrate on myself so much until it was the right time for me to get those things out. ... There are so many things that had to be dealt with, there was never time to focus."

Bizzy and the rest of Bone Thugs have just completed their latest LP, Thug World Order, and plan to release it in August. It features guest appearances by Bobby Brown and Avant.

[red_ram]

'Hip Hop'... another tool pushed by the 'elite' to corrupt disenfranchised young minds...

The Hegelian Dialectic.

How can anyone listen to that degenerate, cacophonic bilge? :-/ It's the polar opposite of classical music.
I'm sure there's lots of esoteric imagery on those album covers- courtesy of those who run the system...

Just about every other genre of music has merit.

What is needed is a large dosage of classic rock.

Especially Rock & Roll Hoochie Koo, which really, sincerely rocks my cockles.

[synak]

Bone Thugs-N-Harmony's Bizzy Bone will come forward with the tragic tale of his own childhood abduction on the May 25 episode of "America's Most Wanted."

"Little Bizzy Bone's got a story, and the story is a little deeper than just one-way bus
tickets to Eazy-E in Los Angeles," said the Cleveland rapper, who was abducted by the biological father of one of his sisters in the early '80s.

Bizzy and his sisters were lied to for more than a year by their kidnapper and were led to believe that their mother was dead. Meanwhile, their mother was very much alive and working with "America's Most Wanted" host John Walsh to search for her children. A picture of Bizzy, who was on a reservation in Oklahoma, was shown at the end of the 1983 TV movie "Adam" and led to his return.

"I was gone from 4 years old to 5 years old," said Bizzy, now 25. "A neighbor who used to baby-sit me for the fella who abducted my sisters and I saw the show. My name was changed, I had hair all over my face. And that's how we were found.

"When we were in school," he continued, "they called me and my sisters down and were interrogating us, asking us our last names. I ain't never been a snitch, even as a baby, so I kept telling them the fake name, 'Jones, Jones, Jones.' And eventually my sister broke it like, 'You can tell.' "

Bizzy was later returned to his mother's custody, but not unscathed.

"There was a lot of mental abuse. There are a lot of things you will see on the episode that will shock a lot of people. It was more mental abuse than anything to really think your mother is dead, to really think your grandmother is dead, to believe a whole false scenario that someone places in front of you and you being a child that is easily manipulated.

"We were getting chased by the FBI and police. I remember hiding in vans and hiding under clothes. It was made to be a game, but it wasn't a f---ing game. To this day, I still find myself looking around the corner when the police come."

Bizzy said telling his story has been therapeutic and that he hopes his experience helps other victimized children. He's glad things have finally settled down enough for him to properly address the episode.

"When I got into the business there was so much going on, with E dying and the new thing coming in," he said. "I couldn't concentrate on myself so much until it was the right time for me to get those things out. ... There are so many things that had to be dealt with, there was never time to focus."

Bizzy and the rest of Bone Thugs have just completed their latest LP, Thug World Order, and plan to release it in August. It features guest appearances by Bobby Brown and Avant.

He's been through quite a bit at their hands thats for sure.

[Ian2day]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dicC5HHGIg&feature=related

Loads of subliminals in this video, are they coincidental or by design.

[nectars]

Theres more to be concerned about that only that. The below is taken from another forum on Nonlinear dynamics & attractor fields in consciousness.

Re: Carrier Wave in music?


My understanding of this from what he teaches, and as a psychoacoustician (psychoacoustics is the study of the impact of sound and music on the human nervous system), is that the "carrier wave" is nothing physical -- that is to say, it's not the physical sound, the beat, the tonality, any of that. All of the physical forms that music can take are only the material representation of that which informs it (which is true of all form). A carrier wave in this context means the consciousness that informs it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrier_wave

*After talking about the negative influence of violent video games etc.*

"So the negative lyrics of this kind of music are pounded into your
consciousness to a highly suggestible hypnotic state in which your
energy fields are already made negative by music. This is the real
treagedy of modern society. The whole generation of youth is being
whiped out."

"Is it the music itself? No. It's the energy that accompanies that
music."

Intention creates context.

[moina]

I think the higher Masons are laughing at these stupid celebrity puppets who think they are special and know whats really going on.

[croquetplayer12]

i was flippin through the channels one day and saw the pussycat dolls doing there song about the boobies and i had to stop and the one in the middle opened with the devil horns and the group closed with two fingers up and the thumb to the side....tore me in half :(

ive noticed a couple uk hardcore bands have lots of Illuminati symbolism
such as gold boys i think is the name and bring me the horizon

[moina]

I used to listen to Daft Punk but after I saw their live gig with them in the pyramid and their technologic video ive got rid of all their songs. I find it very hard to understand why these artists feel the need to have all this symbolism and support an evil agenda when they dont need to.:mad:

[croquetplayer12]

maybe it makes people like them:confused:
since there is power behind the symbolism

[tussin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2FBLvGzE34

[tussin]

i dont think RZA or GZA are masonic or are for the NWO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEBmEEbHfwM

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r6mIYSPYnE

here are some other vids to check out really good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng0EDYZ603U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecCQ9w0qV8k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2xjB2aa8rE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZjHTgm-fQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GWdWAaN64w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSz9oiHwSuw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veR-Zg-c0zA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLjNJGHIT94

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x0w9TpI1xk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vow7sD1LcbY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GX2vux1prA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9rEpLT4GsA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Bvaeq3JlN8

[tussin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdnDYaU8-qE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXe3b-7itnM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALOczvJdcQg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDVkrtzoYR0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQKKH9II5g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7P2K-xZuJg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbNGSmZUOeA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdgRH_p3XI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7FJ4AvdTXw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfOj-QyHrVE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Enx9gDy-RJs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4UCFiXuGlo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie-f3yHEjtY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-KKvWi8g18

enjoy :)

[tussin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzETV-BdR1E

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF7A3PAEOvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnqHVwEDpNo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpJiqHDkvoE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEaKk4rhIeo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3BweYOQ1Zs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ZTj6Gcyig

[tussin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mZXAx6BCic

[tussin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kc06EVPrWVo

[stemcg1983]

thanks for all them videos will check them tomorrow once i get to fukin sleep