Bruce Lee

[i am all i am]

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The above photo is a young Bruce Lee doing double arm chi sao with his teacher in Wing Chun Kung Fu, Grand Master Yip Man.

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Bruce Lee was more than merely a martial artist, he was also a philosopher.

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This is Bruce doing a two finger push-up in a display at the Long Beach International Karate Championships, put together by Ed Parker, 1967.

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Bruce in full flight as he delivers his devastating side kick.

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Here Bruce delivers a kick to the head of 7'2" Kareem Abdul Jabar, in the movie, Game of Death.

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The above link is the fight scene between Bruce Lee and Kareem Abdul Jabar.

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Bruce Lee - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here are some famous Bruce Lee quotes.....

Boards don't hit back.
As "Mr. Lee" in Enter the Dragon (1973); Bruce Lee's character said this to "Oharra" after Oharra had broken a board in the air with his fist.

Don't get set into one form, adapt it and build your own, and let it grow, be like water. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless — like water. Now you put water in a cup, it becomes the cup; You put water into a bottle it becomes the bottle; You put it into a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.
Bruce Lee: A Warrior's Journey (2000)

Truth has no path. Truth is living and, therefore, changing. Awareness is without choice, without demand, without anxiety; in that state of mind, there is perception. To know oneself is to study oneself in action with another person. Awareness has no frontier; it is giving of your whole being, without exclusion.

When there is freedom from mechanical conditioning, there is simplicity. The classical man is just a bundle of routine, ideas and tradition. If you follow the classical pattern, you are understanding the routine, the tradition, the shadow — you are not understanding yourself.

A martial artist who drills exclusively to a set pattern of combat is losing his freedom. He is actually becoming a slave to a choice pattern and feels that the pattern is the real thing. It leads to stagnation because the way of combat is never based on personal choice and fancies, but constantly changes from moment to moment, and the disappointed combatant will soon find out that his "choice routine" lacks pliability. There must be a "being" instead of a "doing" in training. One must be free. Instead of complexity of form, there should be simplicity of expression.

All fixed set patterns are incapable of adaptability or pliability. The truth is outside of all fixed patterns.

Always be yourself, express yourself, have faith in yourself; do not go out and look for a successful personality and duplicate it.

As you think, so shall you become.

Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way round or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves.

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Bruce Lee has been, and continues to be, an inspiration to martial artists around the world and from all styles. His amazing physique, demonstrations of his incredible ability, philosophy and of course his martial art movies, have all combined to keep Bruce's memory alive after more than 30 years has passed since he died. For many people, he is considered the greatest martial artist ever. Known as 'The Little Dragon', Bruce Lee has become an immortal icon for the little man overcoming all the odds. His true gift, I believe, is that he showed all of us a glimpse of what could be, what is possible, and what we can all achieve. For this gift, I am thankful.


With LOVE.

[messiah]

bruce was on the ball, he knew what was goin' on

[rossus]

probably got killed by the corporation

[pedsi]

Dont think...feel.it's like a finger pointing to the moon.If you concentrate on the finger you will miss out on all that heavenly glory...............
A true genius

[thoth]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1413383646144124621&q=bruce+lee+lost+interview&hl=en

Bruce Lee lost interview

[them]

white crane kung fu (http://www.southerncranekungfu.com/content/?page_id=4)

The Great Crane Project (http://www.rspb.org.uk/policy/species/cranes/index.asp)

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Saving Cranes (http://www.savingcranes.org/species/siberian.cfm)

[i am all i am]

bruce was on the ball, he knew what was goin' on

G'day Messiah,

I agree, and I also believe that he knew a lot more than was ever reported.

I beleive that what he was doing moving his hands in front of himself, was that he would read the auric field, or energy field, of the person that was attacking him. The vocals that he was using was to send out his own energy through the "gaps", or "holes", in the persons auric field. So when they attacked he already knew where to strike because he had read the 'blockage' in the energetic field of his opponent. He merely went from yin to yang, or soft to hard, as he placed his body in the most beneficial position to maintain its integrity, while doing the maximum damage to his opponent.


With LOVE.

[thoth]

He basically knew this:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

He knew part of the "Secret", which is we are all energy and that we are taking part in creating the reality that we live. He knew that we are all apart of a greater conscious, connected interdimensionally encompassing beyond space and time. He knew, and they killed him.

[oneofmany]

G'day Messiah,

I agree, and I also believe that he knew a lot more than was ever reported.

I beleive that what he was doing moving his hands in front of himself, was that he would read the auric field, or energy field, of the person that was attacking him. The vocals that he was using was to send out his own energy through the "gaps", or "holes", in the persons auric field. So when they attacked he already knew where to strike because he had read the 'blockage' in the energetic field of his opponent. He merely went from yin to yang, or soft to hard, as he placed his body in the most beneficial position to maintain its integrity, while doing the maximum damage to his opponent.


With LOVE.
Wow, with his "vocal breathing" I thought he was reaching his own CHI, just like an opera singer that reaches from the bottom of their solar plexus to achieve a sense of "flying" when they sing, but you put in a much better prospective than I thought possible.

[i am all i am]

He basically knew this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co6G-vyAlII

He knew part of the "Secret", which is we are all energy and that we are taking part in creating the reality that we live. He knew that we are all apart of a greater conscious, connected interdimensionally encompassing beyond space and time. He knew, and they killed him.

G'day Thoth.

Thank you for the link.

I also believe that Bruce had a fuller understanding of the way everything works than he was ever given credit for. Although, reading the 'Tao of Jeet Kune Do', he says that you must 'destroy' the ego. I believe that this is a mistake and was what allowed "THEY" to kill him. I believe that the ego is part of the vehicle that we use to experience life with, and therefore, a tool. To 'destroy' the tool, the ego, you are destroying the opportunity to experience life. "THEY" knew how close he was to becoming "The ONE" (like Neo in The Matrix), "THEY" couldn't allow this as he was too well known and popular, and he could have started everyone 'waking up' and being uncontrolled by the system.


With LOVE.

[i am all i am]

Wow, with his "vocal breathing" I thought he was reaching his own CHI, just like an opera singer that reaches from the bottom of their solar plexus to achieve a sense of "flying" when they sing, but you put in a much better prospective than I thought possible.

Thanks for that brother.

What is Bruce Lee's favourite drink ? Waaaatteerrrrrrrrrr.

If you listen to him in his movies you can actually here him say 'water' when he is vocalising. When Bruce describes water being able to penetrate any surface, like a rock, and then freezing and being able to break the rock, he is describing the transference of Chi from yin to yang, soft to hard. It's all about transference of Chi.

I had a young chinese woman working in my office that I ran in Harris Park while doing the direct sales multi-level marketing 'job'. Anyway, she told me of a Chi Gung master that was her teacher at school. He used to give Chi Gung lessons after school to the students for free. One afternoon, she said that he 'pushed' one finger straight through a table, indicating that the table was about 2 inches of solid wood, maikng a hole with only that one finger. Awesome stuff, huh.


With LOVE.

[oneofmany]

There is definitely a lot that the average joe doesn't know about the world we live in that's for sure. Water is an amazing substance, that we could use for many purposes, like fuel, building (look at the sumerian civilisations) farming, and overall sustaining of life. Chi Gung sounds fascinating, please tell more if you can. :)

[thoth]

Qigong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

The jury is still out on this one. It looks good though:
Qi,move things without touch!believe it? - YouTube

[i am all i am]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi_gong
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The jury is still out on this one. It looks good though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JYGqVA9xc4&NR

G'day Thoth.

Thanks for all the links. I'll definitely be watching them all and I'm thinking of asking a freiend to download them for me, especially the 'Lost Bruce Lee Interview'.


With LOVE.

[thoth]

G'day Thoth.

Thanks for all the links. I'll definitely be watching them all and I'm thinking of asking a freiend to download them for me, especially the 'Lost Bruce Lee Interview'.


With LOVE.

I like your avatar by the way. I just love looking at the flower of life, gives me a boost of energy! I have some more stuff, but I am having trouble finding it.

[i am all i am]

I like your avatar by the way. I just love looking at the flower of life, gives me a boost of energy! I have some more stuff, but I am having trouble finding it.

Thanks mate. I didn't have an avatar for a long while because I wanted to choose something that represented me. As the Flower Of Life is in everything, I thought that it would be a perfect re-presentation. Every time I scroll down the page it always draws my eyes to it. I have drawn the FOL, painted it and even had posters made of it, because I can feel the vibration of the pattern and love the energy from it.

When you post the other links (take your time, it's all cool) I'll go back through the thread and copy them all onto one post so that we can all have easy access to them.

Thanks for the effort you've gone to posting them already.


With LOVE.

EDIT:- Here's a great link for the FOL done as jewellry.

http://www.ka-gold-jewelry.com/p-articles/flower-of-life.php

[stikmata]

utmost props

Way ahead of his time in many respects. I consider him the father of mixed martial arts... not only because he popularized martial arts in the western mind, but also his philosophies about abandoning form for function. They actually use the style of gloves he designed in the UFC to this day.

There are few people that i've studied that i have as high a regard for as i do Bruce Lee.

[i am all i am]

There is definitely a lot that the average joe doesn't know about the world we live in that's for sure. Water is an amazing substance, that we could use for many purposes, like fuel, building (look at the sumerian civilisations) farming, and overall sustaining of life. Chi Gung sounds fascinating, please tell more if you can. :)

I'll bring 'Qigung for health and vitality', by Michael Tse (he was taught by Yip Man, who taught Bruce) with me when we meet up. Simply, Chi Gung (or Qi) is the transference of energy throughout the body for health and maintaining function. Once you learn how to move your chi through the exercises, you can then use it for other practical purposes.

Have you read anything by Masaru Emoto ?


With LOVE.

[oneofmany]

I'll bring 'Qigung for health and vitality', by Michael Tse (he was taught by Yip Man, who taught Bruce) with me when we meet up. Simply, Chi Gung (or Qi) is the transference of energy throughout the body for health and maintaining function. Once you learn how to move your chi through the exercises, you can then use it for other practical purposes.

Have you read anything by Masaru Emoto ?


With LOVE.This book list is growing out of control :D I saw what the bleep where he had his chi of water experiments which i thought were beautiful, but no I haven't read his books, yet another interesting topic.

[i am all i am]

This book list is growing out of control :D I saw what the bleep where he had his chi of water experiments which i thought were beautiful, but no I haven't read his books, yet another interesting topic.


He's not the only one to have done those experiments. You can get a free e-book from Truth Publishing called 'The Healing Power of Water'. Thay have a lot of other free books that are great.


With LOVE.

[oneofmany]

He's not the only one to have done those experiments. You can get a free e-book from Truth Publishing called 'The Healing Power of Water'. Thay have a lot of other free books that are great.


With LOVE.I will download that tomorrow, right now is beddie bye time as I have to drive to pick up my son in the morning. When will i have to stop running around for this woman, I can't see a let up anytime soon, I do need a holiday :) thanks for listening Brother, It's been a hectic night for me and im tired now, Goodnight

[father ted]

Bruce lee is a legend. you can learn from him.
No one's ever mentioned that there is a more than likely posibility that he could have been involved with the illuminati, one way or another, mind controll slave or just plain controlled, guided, etc.

[azure]

Okay, I'm just going to have to balance out this thread. Bruce could barely even be called a "martial artist" by any real standard, let alone a "master".

Bruce did not study any real martial arts (battlefield arts used in actual warfare). Bruce studied a mishmash of modern "martial sports", and even at that he was barely above average.

His philosphy was not "deep" or "ahead of its time". What is espoused as "his philosophy" are very common, basic concepts that anyone with a few years of experience in any Koryu could regurgitate for you, and demonstrate in action far better than Bruce ever did. Occasionally his own thoughts are included, where he reveals an obvious lack of understanding of many important points.

Nothing wrong with Bruce, he did good things. But the awe, amazement and idol worship that surround him is absolutely ridiculous and purely the result of media propaganda.

[i am all i am]

Okay, I'm just going to have to balance out this thread. Bruce could barely even be called a "martial artist" by any real standard, let alone a "master".

Bruce did not study any real martial arts (battlefield arts used in actual warfare). Bruce studied a mishmash of modern "martial sports", and even at that he was barely above average.

His philosphy was not "deep" or "ahead of its time". What is espoused as "his philosophy" are very common, basic concepts that anyone with a few years of experience in any Koryu could regurgitate for you, and demonstrate in action far better than Bruce ever did. Occasionally his own thoughts are included, where he reveals an obvious lack of understanding of many important points.

Nothing wrong with Bruce, he did good things. But the awe, amazement and idol worship that surround him is absolutely ridiculous and purely the result of media propaganda.

G'day Azure,

"Bruce did not study any real martial arts...."

Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun Kung Fu, with William Cheung, under Grand Master Yip Man. Grand Master William Cheung is in the guiness book of recoeds for 8.3 punches in a second. This is created from the circular punch of Wing Chun, which creates a revolution of continual punches.

"Absorb what is useful, Discard what is not, Add what is uniquely your own"

Of course a lot of his philosophy comes from other sources, as the above quote by Bruce demonstrates. It is a intelligent to use wisdom from all sources and mould it to your own personal belief system to create a beneficial functioning lifestyle.

"...anyone with a few years of experience in any Koryu could regurgitate for you, and demonstrate in action far better than Bruce ever did."

This would be very interesting to see considering what Bruce achieved.

A few of Bruce's awesome feats:

Bruce's striking speed from 3 feet away was five hundredths of a second.

Bruce did press ups using only 2 fingers.

Bruce was able to explode 100lb bags with a simple sidekick.

Chuck Norris - "Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest".

Chuck Norris - "I remember visiting the Lee household and seeing Bruce bouncing his little boy, Brandon, on his abdomen while simultaneously performing leg raises and dumbell flyes."

Hayward Nishioka - "Bruce had this trademark "One Inch Punch", he could send individuals (Some of whom outweighed him by over 100lbs) flying through the air where they'd crash to the ground 15 feet away. I remember getting knocked up against the wall by that punch. I didn't think it was possible that he could generate so much power in his punch, especially when he was just laying his hand against my chest, he just twitched a bit and Wham!!!, I went flying backward and bounced off a wall. I took him very seriously after that."

James Coburn - "Bruce and I were training out on my patio one day, we were using this giant bag for side kicks, I guess it weighed about 150lbs. Bruce looked at it and just went Bang, it shot up out into the lawn about 15ft in the air, it then busted in the middle. It was filled with little bits and pieces of rag, we were picking up bits of rag for months".

I am wondering if you have any evidence to back up anything that you have stated ???


With LOVE.

[azure]

Bruce Lee studied Wing Chun Kung Fu, with William Cheung, under Grand Master Yip Man. Grand Master William Cheung is in the guiness book of recoeds for 8.3 punches in a second. This is created from the circular punch of Wing Chun, which creates a revolution of continual punches.

I'm well aware of all that. As a student of martial history, I personally have all of Bruce's material and have trained with Dan Inosanto (I'd hope you already know who he is ;)).

Wing Chun originated with monks in temples, not with warriors on the battlefield.

Punching speed is flashy and impressive to the masses and can be helpful in sport fighting, but is absolutely meaningless when it comes to real martial skill (warfare).

Of course a lot of his philosophy comes from other sources, as the above quote by Bruce demonstrates. It is a intelligent to use wisdom from all sources and mould it to your own personal belief system to create a beneficial functioning lifestyle.

Right, of course. I'm just busting the myth that he was some kind of revolutionary philosopher. What little he did add of his own was completely off the mark.

Bruce's striking speed from 3 feet away was five hundredths of a second.

Bruce did press ups using only 2 fingers.

Bruce was able to explode 100lb bags with a simple sidekick.

Chuck Norris - "Lee, pound for pound, might well have been one of the strongest men in the world, and certainly one of the quickest".

Nice party tricks, but again, speed and strength is completely unrelated to martial skill. Helpful in sport fighting, which is what he did and was alright at, but not helpful in real "mortal combat".

Hayward Nishioka - "Bruce had this trademark "One Inch Punch", he could send individuals (Some of whom outweighed him by over 100lbs) flying through the air where they'd crash to the ground 15 feet away. I remember getting knocked up against the wall by that punch. I didn't think it was possible that he could generate so much power in his punch, especially when he was just laying his hand against my chest, he just twitched a bit and Wham!!!, I went flying backward and bounced off a wall. I took him very seriously after that."

That's just basic proper body alignment. You start learning that from day one in any real martial art.

James Coburn - "Bruce and I were training out on my patio one day, we were using this giant bag for side kicks, I guess it weighed about 150lbs. Bruce looked at it and just went Bang, it shot up out into the lawn about 15ft in the air, it then busted in the middle. It was filled with little bits and pieces of rag, we were picking up bits of rag for months".

Again, this is the kind of flashy stuff that sounds impressive to someone without real experience or understanding in the martial arts. The ability to kick a bag hard has nothing to do with martial skill.

I am wondering if you have any evidence to back up anything that you have stated ???

You just need to realize the difference between "sport" arts and "martial" arts. As someone who has studied the "martial" arts for most of my life, I'm just saying that Bruce was a pseudo-martial artist who really studied "martial sports" and was only barely above average at that, especially if you compare him to the modern sport fighters of today.

As a martial artist, he was never even in a "real" combat experience. His techniques show this plainly -- pages of techniques in the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, taken from various sport arts, that would get you KILLED in a real confrontation.

The whole concept of Jeet Kune Do is a farce. You can't combine arts, the fundamental movement systems and essential methodologies clash with eachother. But you'd need some experience to understand this point.

This is compared to a plethora of other great martial artists all over the world who were and are masters of real, ancient martial arts -- having been involved with and survived countless, brutal life and death confrontations and reaching the highest levels of subtlety and skill that just seems absolutely magical (no high kicks, sorry!).

These are the real masters that deserve the awe and recognition as martial artists that Bruce has gotten purely through flashy performance and media propaganda that people eat up simply because they haven't the experience to be able to disciminate properly. That's all.

Anyway, just balancing out the thread. ;)

[i am all i am]

Hung Suen Wing Chun History

The Hung Suen Wing Chun Kung Fu system dates back over two hundred years to the Siu Lam Temple. As a result of the political atmosphere of the times, this branch of Hung Suen Wing Chun has never been made public or taught outside its direct lineage. Instead, it was handed down in secrecy from family member to family member.
From 1644 to 1911, the Manchurians ruled China in a period known as the Qing Dynasty. Early in the 1700's, the Manchurians became concerned about the Siu Lam Temples' rebellious activities and their continued development of the fighting arts. Under the decision to eliminate the threat of these rebels and their leaders, the Manchurians attempted to exterminate the Siu Lam monks to prevent them from spreading their martial skills and knowledge. Eventually, both Siu Lam Temples were burnt and destroyed.

According to Hung Suen Wing Chun tradition, prior to the destruction of the temples, a comprehensive advanced martial art system known as Hung Suen Wing Chun was developed. Hung Suen Wing Chun was formulated through generations of Siu Lam knowledge and experience. As with all advanced Siu Lam knowledge, Hung Suen Wing Chun was conducted under a 'silent code'. This meant that in order to prevent abuse, it was passed down to only a few chosen disciples and was never documented.

With such a hidden past, we now rely heavily on the direct teachings of the elders for historical material. As told by teacher to student, two Siu Lam monks escaped the Manchurians' massacres and were able to keep the Hung Suen Wing Chun system alive. One of these monks was the twenty-second generation Siu Lam grandmaster, Yat Chum Dai Si. The other monk was named Cheung Ng. Before his death, grandmaster Yat Chum Dai Si passed on his high level Hung Suen Wing Chun knowledge to Cheung Ng.

In order to keep his identity and Siu Lam background fom the Manchurian government, Cheung Ng joined the Red Boat Opera Troupe. The name was given to this organisation of talented stage performers who travelled in red boats. Accomplished in Kung Fu and gymnastics, they formed their own organisation and stage names: the Red Boat Opera was Cheung Ng's safest refuge.

Cheung Ng became known in the opera troupe as Tan Sao Ng (Spread-Out Arm Ng) from his skilful use of the Hung Suen Wing Chun manoeuvre tan sao to subdue others during challenges. His level of skill allowed him to use one tan sao to represent over one thousand moves. He demonstrated that a basic technique such as tan sao must be fully understood, in concept and application, prior to the next thousand techniques. After learning the next thousand techniques, then they all become one again.

Harsh Manchurian actions created such distrust among the people that they resulted in the formation of underground organisations or secret societies such as the Heaven and Earth Society and the White Lotus Society. Within a secret society, the identity of the leaders, members, and their activities were known only to a few within the society itself.

One of the Red Boat Opera Troupe actors by the name of Hung Gun Biu (Red Bandana Biu), was a secret society leader and brought Tan Sao Ng into the organisation. The safety of the opera troupe combined with the security of the secret society allowed Ng to spread his Hung Suen Wing Chun knowledge in confidence.

As a trusted leader, Hung Gun Biu became one of Ng's closest disciples. However, in order to protect the system's origins and the identities of Yat Chum Dai Si and Tan Sao Ng, a story was created. It was said that a Siu Lam nun named Ng Mui taught the martial arts to a young woman named Yim Wing-Chun. As Yim Wing-Chum taught it to others, the system became known as Wing Chun kung fu. Many versions of the story exist around the world today. However, the name of 'Yim Wing Chun' also has a different and special meaning. 'Yim' can be translated to mean 'protect', 'prohibit' or 'secret'. The term 'Wing Chun' referred to the Siu Lam Wing Chun Tong (Always Spring Hall). Thus, 'Yim Wing Chun' was actually a code, meaning the secret art of the Siu Lam Wing Chun Hall.

Hung Gun Biu became one of the first generation disciples to learn Hung Suen Wing Chun, outside the Siu Lam Temple. The other opera troupe members who learned Hung Suen Wing Chun from 'Tan Sao' Ng also had the obligation to protect the origin of the system. These other first generation disciples included Wong Wah-Bo, Leung Yee-Tai, Dai Fa Min Kam (Painted Face Kam), Lo Man-Gong, Siu-Sang Hung Fook, and Gao Lo Chung (Tall Man Chung). Based on their individual understanding and degree of training in Wing Chun, these disciples, all previously trained in other martial art styles, may have passed along their skills with inherently different emphases.

Hung Gun Biu's lineage became known as Hung Suen Wing Chun (Red Boat) and followed a tradition to pass down the full system only to family members who took the traditional and ceremonial Siu Lam vow of secrecy. The system's lineage shows that Hung Gun Biu taught his relative, Cheung Gung who passed it down to his great nephew, Wang Ting. Wang Ting taught his son, Dr Wang Ming, of Saiquan, China. Dr Wang Ming taught the entire system with its original concepts to only four disciples. (Extract from Complete Wing Chun Robert Chu, Rene Ritchie and Y. Wu 1998).

In 1950, Yip Man started to teach Wing Chun in Hong Kong. One of his first students was chosen to be the sole inheritor of the traditional teachings of Wing Chun, William Cheung Cheuk Hing. In 1982, two of his students won both the Heavyweight and Middleweight divisions of the World Invitation Full Contact Kung Fu Championships in Hong Kong.

The Wing Chun curriculum that you will see taught here will be different to any other Wing Chun curriculum. Our Wing Chun is primarily Hung Suen Wing Chun lineage whereas most other Wing Chun schools can be traced back to Hong Kong, and have varying degrees of purity.

If you would like to do further reading on different Wing Chun lineages taught today, we recommend Complete Wing Chun by R. Chu, R. Ritchie and Y. Wu, Tutle publications. We trust you will enjoy your experience of the true teachings of Wing Chun.


With LOVE.

[i am all i am]

Celebrity Students

Lew Alcindor "Kareem Abdul Jabar"
Steve McQueen
James Coburn
Roman Polanski
Stirling Silliphant
Tom Tannenbaum
Joe Hyams

Private Students

Mike Stone
Chuck Norris
Joe Lewis


With LOVE.

[turquoisefyre]

I also believe that Bruce counted Elvis Presly among his students...or was it just for a few lessons? Can't remember now.

Anyway, one on the strangest saying I came across in Tao of JKD was something like this: "The only way to get rid of the disease is to be one with it...", in that fashion.

I recently realized, at least in my interperetation, that it has to do with not being ignorant I guess, and pay attention.

[i am all i am]

I also believe that Bruce counted Elvis Presly among his students...or was it just for a few lessons? Can't remember now.

Anyway, one on the strangest saying I came across in Tao of JKD was something like this: "The only way to get rid of the disease is to be one with it...", in that fashion.

I recently realized, at least in my interperetation, that it has to do with not being ignorant I guess, and pay attention.

G'day Turquoisefyre.

He may have been refering to the adage that what you fight, you become.

I've never heard that he taught Elvis. Not that means that he didn't though.


With LOVE.

[turquoisefyre]

Hi,

I picked up on his Elvis student scenario in Bruce Thomas' Fighting Spirit that I read years back. A really good book I read through in 1 and a 1/2 days.

...wish I had one of those wing chun dummys to practice on...

[whitelightrabbit]

a beautiful man. he was one of the first to share that secret power and knowledge. the old way was to keep that information secret, but it's time to share it with the world. same goes with ancient healing methods, they are being shared now. the ones who are brave enough to share, risk being killed by the people clinging to the old ways.

[turquoisefyre]

the ones who are brave enough to share, risk being killed by the people clinging to the old ways.


Sooooooo true. This is where being a creature of habbit is a curse on the human race.

[i am all i am]

Hi,

I picked up on his Elvis student scenario in Bruce Thomas' Fighting Spirit that I read years back. A really good book I read through in 1 and a 1/2 days.

...wish I had one of those wing chun dummys to practice on...

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G'day Turquoisefyre,

I bought a wooden dummy when I first started training in Wing Chun. I highly recommend getting one. As a trainging tool, it is awesome and worth more than any investment that you make buying it. I really couldn't say enough of how effective a tool it is, and having the benefit of having one at home means that you can train whenever you choose to.

I've put a couple of links for you below, but if you do a search on google, I'm sure that you can find a good wooden dummy for a reasonable price.


This link shows you how to make your own wooden dummy.

http://www.wckfc.com/news/dummy/

This is a link where you can buy a wooden dummy in the U.K.

http://www.woodendummies.co.uk/pagoda.htm


With LOVE.

[i am all i am]

Making of a Wooden Dummy
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/167379

Yip Man lineage, Wooden Dummy
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/883

Yip Man lineage, a student of Lo Man Kam sifu performing Chum Kiu
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/764

Yip Man lineage, a student of Lo Man Kam sifu performing Siu Nim Tau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/762

Yip Man sifu performing the Wooden Dummy set
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/524

Yip Man sifu performing Chum Kiu
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/520

Yip Man sifu performing Siu Nim Tau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/518

Yip Man lineage, Chu Shong Tin sifu performing the Wooden Dummy set
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/513

Yip Man lineage, Chu Shong Tin sifu performing Chum Kiu
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/506

Yip Man lineage, Chu Shong Tin sifu performing Siu Nim Tau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/503

Yip Man sifu peforming the 6.5 point pole - a short clip
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/62876

Yip Chun 8 Slash knives
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/53739

Yip Man lineage (Sunny Tang), Wayne Belonoha performing two arm chi sau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/50175

Yip Man lineage (Sunny Tang), Wayne Belonoha performing single arm chi sau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/45663

Yip Man lineage (Sunny Tang), Wayne Belonoha performing Biu Jee
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/45655

Yip Man lineage (Sunny Tang), Wayne Belonoha performing Chum Kiu
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/45652

Yip Man lineage (Sunny Tang), Wayne Belonoha performing Siu Nim Tau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/45648

Yip Man lineage, Lun Gai sifu performing Chum Kiu
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/43339

Yip Man lineage, Lun Gai sifu performing Siu Nim Tau
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/43333

Jackie Chan (Sing Long) hitting the Wooden Dummy
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/405365

Film Stars performing Wing Chun - Leung Gar Yun, Yuen Biao, Di Lung, Ng Gin Ho
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/93399

WSL student Wu Chun Nam vs. Northern Praying Mantis
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/90645

Wing Chun vs. Kyokushin Karate
http://podcast.blog.webs-tv.net/wingchun/podcast/45022

The Chisao clip
馮強�勞�身詠春拳 ( 02 ) - YouTube


With LOVE.

[espii]

Hi everyone!



These are some of my very basic maybe superficial understanding of bruce lee's way of thinking and martial arts. I did not study martial-arts or bruce lee's teaching in deepth. Just some quick toughts.

When bruce says destroying the ego, what he really means i think is that you need to let go of your "self" and just "be". Know and become your opponent, the air, the environment, just know and feel. It's like Action - Reaction. Then you don't have to think or predict, you just know in the now, because you become "the fight" and everything in it. Your mind is like in an auto-pilot trance. It's probably a higher-counscious state of mind. " Don't Think! Feeeeeeeeel..."

In my view, martial arts are ineffective because one is bound in paramaters and rules. Your mind is too busy trying to plan your next move and find a weakness in your opponent. Why would you try to poke your opponent in 3 different places when you can just give a very fast and very hard, simple and effective kick to the head and knock him out uncounscious ?

“A good martial artist is not tense but ready.
Not thinking nor dreaming.
Ready for whatever may come.
When my enemy expand, I contract.
When my enemy contract, I expand.
And whenever an opportunity expresses itself,
I do not hit. It hits all by itself.”


Truly a giant amongst men. A glimpse to man's infinite potential.

[espii]

I would also like to add ( in my view) that "mixed martial-arts" is not related to bruce's teachings. Maybe a misconception.

Jeet kune do is not a martial arts style. It simply is not a style.

It's about learning fighting moves that work best for you, which should be simple , fast and effective. What might have been "the way" for bruce, might not be your way. You need to find your own "truth" or way.

[i am all i am]

Hi everyone!

These are some of my very basic maybe superficial understanding of bruce lee's way of thinking and martial arts. I did not study martial-arts or bruce lee's teaching in deepth. Just some quick toughts.

When bruce says destroying the ego, what he really means i think is that you need to let go of your "self" and just "be". Know and become your opponent, the air, the environment, just know and feel. It's like Action - Reaction. Then you don't have to think or predict, you just know in the now, because you become "the fight" and everything in it. Your mind is like in an auto-pilot trance. It's probably a higher-counscious state of mind. " Don't Think! Feeeeeeeeel..."

In my view, martial arts are ineffective because one is bound in paramaters and rules. Your mind is too busy trying to plan your next move and find a weakness in your opponent. Why would you try to poke your opponent in 3 different places when you can just give a very fast and very hard, simple and effective kick to the head and knock him out uncounscious ?

“A good martial artist is not tense but ready.
Not thinking nor dreaming.
Ready for whatever may come.
When my enemy expand, I contract.
When my enemy contract, I expand.
And whenever an opportunity expresses itself,
I do not hit. It hits all by itself.”

Truly a giant amongst men. A glimpse to man's infinite potential.

G'day Espii,

For someone that has not studied martial arts, you have a very good grasp of the workings of it. Some of the knowledge that has been taught to many students firstly has to be unlearned, much like us deprogramming from the indoctrination of the system/matrix, for them to progress within another style other than the one that had already been learnt. If you did study a martial art, your current understanding would be a great benefit to your training, allowing you to focus on function instead of merely repeating set moves.

When I read 'The Tao of Jeet Kune Do', the part about destroying the ego really stood out to me as something that Bruce was creating a seperation with. I had already read an article where he described being slowed or blocked by deliberating thought. It was actually Yip Man that brought it to his attention during sparring. So it stood out for me, although it is the only contradiction that I have found within any of his understamdings or philosophy.

Bruce based a lot of Jeet Kune Do from his Wing Chun training. The feeling aspect, in Wing Chun, is called Chi Sao, or touch reflexes. Touch is recognised physically five times faster than sight. So, to 'bridge the gap', as taught in Wing Chun, allows you to be touching your opponent and utilise your Chi Sao training to 'read', or know, what your opponent is doing as they start the movement, and therefore be able to counter, by expanding or contracting, as necessary.

The kick to the head scenario is not that effective. It is more a flashy movie move. To defend against the high kick to the head is actually very easy, and the kick does not necessarily guarentee a knockout. Multiple hits are used to 'set up' your opponent to deliver the knockout blow.

If you are interested, here is the link to Rick Spain's website in the press articles section. The articles are very descriptive and give very good insights to the Wing Chun system and Rick's way of thinking and teaching. Rick Spain was taught by William Cheung, who trained as a full time live-in student with Yip Man, and was Bruce Lee's training partner. Rick Spain also was the '82-'83 Full Contact World Kung Fu Champion, at age 20.

http://combatcentres.com/gallery/press.php


With LOVE.

[turquoisefyre]

Thanks i am all i am,

i appreciate all the links, unfortunately i travel around alot and that stops me from getting into alot of stuff that takes time to cultivate, like martial arts etc.:(

[klinker]

There is much to learn from martial arts if one is prepared to spend the time learning the meaning of the art or as I prefer to say 'getting in touch with it'. That might sound like bollocks to some but unless I am connected during a training session then my Kata, sparring and fitness work is poor.

I practice Okinawan Goju Ryu which in my opinion is pretty well suited to todays potential situations due to its close quarter combat techniques and explosive nature. I don't want to use the word brutal but it is what it is or can be. There's also some half decent ground techniques should you find yourself on the deck.

Given it's Chinese origins there is also some nice esoteric moves within many of the Kata whose application can be deadly, the total opposite of how these moves are excuted during the Kata.

The hard and the soft.

:)

[i am all i am]

Thanks i am all i am,

i appreciate all the links, unfortunately i travel around alot and that stops me from getting into alot of stuff that takes time to cultivate, like martial arts etc.:(

A lot of your training will be done at home, or away from classes. If you use the martial arts centre as a guide to help you with your personal training, you won't need to go very often, as long as you keep up your effort away from classes. In Wing Chun there are many things that you can practise on your own.

Chi breathing
Sil LumTao
Sil Lum Tao - advanced
Chum kil
Bil Jee
Wooden Dummy
Weapons forms (butterfly swords, pole, sticks)

There would be many similarities with other styles, they would merely have their own forms etc., and you can always do things like, shadow boxing, footwork, iron palm training, etc. There are some great videos that Rick Spain has for sale, and other resources to help your training with as well.

A lot of what I know now has been self-taught. Your martial arts is a journey that you undertake and coincides with your spiritual journey. It's all one journey. It doesn't matter how long it takes, it's the effort that you put into it that determines your journeys length. Anyway, it's a personal choice. If you do decide to do a martial art, please feel free to contact me for any assistance that I could give to you.


With LOVE.

[a fine naked fellow]

Kick ass thread, I’m all gay for bruce lee now.

Does anybody have an knowledge/experience with the internal martial arts?
I wanna learn cool stuff too.

[lemonique]

Bruce Lee, who came from a very wealthy branch of the Li family, was half Chinese and half American by blood. Due to his American thinking he thought radically different from the traditional Chinese martial arts mentality, and there is strong evidence to suggest it cost him his life. He not only exposed to the western world secrets of Chinese Martial Arts, but he mixed various types of moves from the various Oriental Schools of Martial Arts. For doing this, he made many of the Zen Martial Arts Masters furious.
When Bruce Lee died at 32 in 1972, his body was like a teenager's and it was in great shape. Bruce Lee had no equal in the Martial Arts. The Chinese/Hong Kong press felt that he was killed by the Zen Martial Arts Masters of China. In fact, his student Abdul described Bruce Lee as "a renegade Taoist Priest" Whether or not Bruce and his son Brandon were killed by the Triads and/or The Secret Martial Arts Societies of China, doesn't change the fact that Bruce Lee angered them for exposing their Martial Arts to the World.

From; Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeir and Cisco Wheeler. Chapter 8: The Science of Body Manipulation and Programming.
http://whale.to/b/sp/spr8.html


Don't know much about Martial Arts myself. I want to start classes at a local Sing Ong Tai Chi class, as they tell me it's good for the old creaky joints thingy that can set in somewhat as one gets a bit older::( My son is a black belt in Nam Wah Pai (Kung Fu) But that's about the extent of my 'knowing' :D
Cheers ! and in the immortal words of Bruce Lee;
Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man, but sooner or later the man who wins is the one who thinks he can .

[i am all i am]

Bruce Lee, who came from a very wealthy branch of the Li family, was half Chinese and half American by blood. Due to his American thinking he thought radically different from the traditional Chinese martial arts mentality, and there is strong evidence to suggest it cost him his life. He not only exposed to the western world secrets of Chinese Martial Arts, but he mixed various types of moves from the various Oriental Schools of Martial Arts. For doing this, he made many of the Zen Martial Arts Masters furious.
When Bruce Lee died at 32 in 1972, his body was like a teenager's and it was in great shape. Bruce Lee had no equal in the Martial Arts. The Chinese/Hong Kong press felt that he was killed by the Zen Martial Arts Masters of China. In fact, his student Abdul described Bruce Lee as "a renegade Taoist Priest" Whether or not Bruce and his son Brandon were killed by the Triads and/or The Secret Martial Arts Societies of China, doesn't change the fact that Bruce Lee angered them for exposing their Martial Arts to the World.

From; Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeir and Cisco Wheeler. Chapter 8: The Science of Body Manipulation and Programming.
http://whale.to/b/sp/spr8.html


Don't know much about Martial Arts myself. I want to start classes at a local Sing Ong Tai Chi class, as they tell me it's good for the old creaky joints thingy that can set in somewhat as one gets a bit older::( My son is a black belt in Nam Wah Pai (Kung Fu) But that's about the extent of my 'knowing' :D
Cheers ! and in the immortal words of Bruce Lee;
Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man, but sooner or later the man who wins is the one who thinks he can .

Thank you for your reply Lemonique.

I highly recommend both Chi Gong (or Qigong) and Tai Chi. They are actually internal martial arts that help to heal and maintain the physical.

It's great to know that your son has progressed so far within his chosen martial art. He may be interested in reading this thread, and if he does, I hope that it will give him some further resources for his martial art journey.


With LOVE.

[tinmenace]

Bruce Lee, who came from a very wealthy branch of the Li family, was half Chinese and half American by blood. Due to his American thinking he thought radically different from the traditional Chinese martial arts mentality, and there is strong evidence to suggest it cost him his life. He not only exposed to the western world secrets of Chinese Martial Arts, but he mixed various types of moves from the various Oriental Schools of Martial Arts. For doing this, he made many of the Zen Martial Arts Masters furious.
When Bruce Lee died at 32 in 1972, his body was like a teenager's and it was in great shape. Bruce Lee had no equal in the Martial Arts. The Chinese/Hong Kong press felt that he was killed by the Zen Martial Arts Masters of China. In fact, his student Abdul described Bruce Lee as "a renegade Taoist Priest" Whether or not Bruce and his son Brandon were killed by the Triads and/or The Secret Martial Arts Societies of China, doesn't change the fact that Bruce Lee angered them for exposing their Martial Arts to the World.

From; Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula by Fritz Springmeir and Cisco Wheeler. Chapter 8: The Science of Body Manipulation and Programming.
http://whale.to/b/sp/spr8.html


Don't know much about Martial Arts myself. I want to start classes at a local Sing Ong Tai Chi class, as they tell me it's good for the old creaky joints thingy that can set in somewhat as one gets a bit older::( My son is a black belt in Nam Wah Pai (Kung Fu) But that's about the extent of my 'knowing' :D
Cheers ! and in the immortal words of Bruce Lee;
Life's battles don't always go to the stronger or faster man, but sooner or later the man who wins is the one who thinks he can .

Do you think Brandon Lee was murdered to ensure the end of that bloodline? Or, as additional revenge?

[mada88]

Maybe bruce lee could have been a super soldier with all his abilities. I'm not saying that in the sense that he might of been.

[lemonique]

I have no idea why they murdered Brandon Lee. The Li's are a very powerful elite family in China. I'm sure they had their own reasons for the killing.

Thanks iaaia for your advice. I have in my hand 'The complete idiot's guide to T'ai Chi & QiGong'. We haven't much choice in New Zealand as far as Martial Arts go, so I may try and teach myself some of the moves, and especially the philosophy! There is bound to be new T'ai Chi groups starting up soon...it takes us a while but we get there (and often-times excell) in all these things. There's only 4 million of us here :) we may be small but we are very powerful
:D That's ONE thing martial arts teach us...it isn't the size Hmmm??
Cheers

[thoth]

You gentlemen are forgetting the most important thing, he was into Chi! If you are into martial arts without understanding the "philosophical" aspects of it you will stay stuck in 3 dimensional reality. Bruce Lee was deep into transcending meditation. His body was flowing with Chi. I don't see how anyone could try downgrade his character or skills. Anyone who he fought who was not a frequent meditator would not be able to fuck with him. He was able to generate energy from the etheric fields.

[i am all i am]

I have no idea why they murdered Brandon Lee. The Li's are a very powerful elite family in China. I'm sure they had their own reasons for the killing.

Thanks iaaia for your advice. I have in my hand 'The complete idiot's guide to T'ai Chi & QiGong'. We haven't much choice in New Zealand as far as Martial Arts go, so I may try and teach myself some of the moves, and especially the philosophy! There is bound to be new T'ai Chi groups starting up soon...it takes us a while but we get there (and often-times excell) in all these things. There's only 4 million of us here :) we may be small but we are very powerful
:D That's ONE thing martial arts teach us...it isn't the size Hmmm??
Cheers

Your welcome Lemonique.

Qigong for health and vitality - Michael Tse

I have this book and it is very good. Michael Tse was trained in Wing Chun Kung Fu by the same person that trained Bruce Lee, Grand Master Yip Man. The pictures and descriptions of the movements are very well done, and it is a great book as a resource for individual conditions as well.


With LOVE.

[r e m]

Nice thread. :)

I've read the Toa of jeet kun do by Bruce Lee. & practiced wing-chun on & off for 3 years.

Bruce Lee only practiced Wing-chun (under teacher Yip Man) for 5 years, & that's apparently the only formal kung fu training he ever undertook.

Lee was an inspirational philosopher IMO, & a great 'enthusiast' of martial arts, Although his achievements speak of a great command of Chi, I personally wouldn't regard him as a Kung-fu Master.

His 'free style' Chinese boxing developed in America (with a wing-chun basis) was an ongoing process.. that continues to change to this day. His influence of free flowing fighting & reverse boxing stance has been monumental in breaking the rigidity of common fighting systems. 'Be like water' as it were.. just like the about 70% of our very essence.


Just don't forget the Illusion Holy-wood can weave as they wave their magic staff..

The circumstances surrounding Bruce & Brandon Lee's death are rather bizarre. Both on Hollywood sets I might add..

The coroner ruled that Lee died of a brain edema (accumulation of fluid and swelling) caused by an abnormal reaction to painkillers he had been prescribed for back pain... His son, Brandon Lee, was killed by a bullet accidentally fired from a prop gun while making the movie The Crow in 1993. Source
http://www.infoplease.com/biography/var/brucelee.html

A loaded prop gun?.. please..

More Bruce Lee Bio's
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Track/5996/bio.html

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000045/bio

http://www.biography.com/search/article.do?id=9542095


I always wanted to make a wodden dummy. :)

[i am all i am]

G'day Rem.

I haven't said it yet so, welcome to the forum. Thanks for your post.

Bruce actually got the 'edema' at an actresses place before being rushed to hospital.

Where have you studied Wing Chun ?

Who with ?

I've read thta when Bruce first got to America that he studied a little bit of Praying Mantis. I don't recall who with though.


With LOVE.

[r e m]

Heya i am all i am, thanks. :)

First I've heard of dying at an actresses place.. I thought it was on/near the set of enter the dragon.

I dig the defensive style of Wing-chun, blocking while simultaneously couter-attacking. Shifting your centre of gravity through changing stances, while pulling chi through the body for maximum power. When I joined about 4 or 5 years ago, I enjoyed reading the legend & roots of Wing-chun. I also related easily to the philosophy incorporated into the basic levels.

That's my pot hazed reflections anyway.. ;)

[i am all i am]

Heya i am all i am, thanks. :)

First I've heard of dying at an actresses place.. I thought it was on/near the set of enter the dragon.

I dig the defensive style of Wing-chun, blocking while simultaneously couter-attacking. Shifting your centre of gravity through changing stances, while pulling chi through the body for maximum power. When I joined about 4 or 5 years ago, I enjoyed reading the legend & roots of Wing-chun. I also related easily to the philosophy incorporated into the basic levels.

That's my pot hazed reflections anyway.. ;)

Sweet...have a toke for me.

Who is your Sifu ?

What country ?

Rick Spain was mine, through G-M William Cheung, through G-M Yip Man.


With LOVE.

[synergy777]

a great soul who came to teach, unite us. brandon was cool too.

[r e m]

I'm moving towards the stove soon, I'll have a spot for ya. :D

Yea.. My Sifu was a brilliant man with a back ground of various different martial arts. A great example of a guy in-tune with life.

I'm somewhere on the land of the long white cloud. :p

[i am all i am]

I thought that I would add this link that talks about the "one inch punch" that Bruce made famous. It also has the demonstration of the one inch punch by Bruce, Long Beach, 1967.

One Inch Punch Documentary - YouTube

With LOVE.

[father ted]

I have a similar move, it's like the one inch punch but mine is a variation of that, it's called the 60" punch. For those like me who find the 1" punch a little challenging, the 60" punch might be for you, still effective enough.

[tru3]

a beautiful man. he was one of the first to share that secret power and knowledge. the old way was to keep that information secret, but it's time to share it with the world. same goes with ancient healing methods, they are being shared now. the ones who are brave enough to share, risk being killed by the people clinging to the old ways.


ya know, that's great and all, but when i was about 7 years old, "the green hornet" came out on tv.

cato was about the coolest dude in the universe to me back then...:)

he definitely didn't get enough air time. same with the series "kung fu". david carridine is now doing yellowbook.com commercials. bruce is laughing his ass off at that one, i'll bet!

http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/greenhornet92.jpg

[i am all i am]

ya know, that's great and all, but when i was about 7 years old, "the green hornet" came out on tv.

cato was about the coolest dude in the universe to me back then...:)

he definitely didn't get enough air time. same with the series "kung fu". david carridine is now doing yellowbook.com commercials. bruce is laughing his ass off at that one, i'll bet!

http://www.televisionheaven.co.uk/greenhornet92.jpg

Gday Tru3.

Here are some youtube links for Bruce Lee, a.k.a, Kato !!!

Enjoy brother.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Kato vs Robin - behind the fued.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

With LOVE.

[masonic3]

bruce was on the ball, he knew what was goin' on


Years ago they use to say "Lee" was in hiding, that he faked his death.
Think the film is it? Big Boss is about it??

Not s:) ure

[supertzar]

Tony Jaa would kick his ass...






































J/k! :D

Still the greatest.