Red Cross owned by vampire sects

[hunkahunka]

Re: Gilles de Rais, aka 'Bluebeard' ( many think the fairytale
Bluebeard was based on the real life of Gilles de Rais)


He was a high-level military commander for the French royals,(the equivalent of France's military chief of staff) and the remains of mutilated and tortured children were found in his castle near the channel islands. Some say there were over 200 bodies found, others say it was over 600.
His castle army was 200 knights strong, and he was found in possession of occult books.


http://vampires.monstrous.com/bloody_de_rais.htm

After the years of glory, Gilles seemed to have found life unbearably dull. During the course of the following year, according to his later confession, he committed his first sex murder, that of a boy. His grandfather willed his sword and cuirass to the younger brother René but died in the following year. Gilles was suddenly able to do what he liked.

One day, a young boy dubbed Poitou was brought to the château and raped, after which Gilles prepared to cut his throat. At this point, Gilles de Sille pointed out that Poitou was such a handsome boy that he would make an admirable page. So Poitou was allowed to live, and become one of Gilles' most trusted minions.

Gilles' attacks of sadism seem to have descended on him like an epileptic fit, and turned him into a kind of maniac. A boy would be lured to the castle on some pretext, and once inside Gilles' chamber, was hung from the ceiling on a rope or chain. But before he had lost consciousness, he was taken down and reassured that Gilles meant him no harm. Then he would be stripped and raped, after which Gilles, or one of his cronies would cut this throat or decapitate him (they had a special sword called a braquemard for removing the head).

But Gilles was still not sated; he would continue to sexually abuse the dead body, playing with the head in grotesque manner, sometimes cutting open the stomach, then squatting in the entrails and masturbating. When he reached a climax he would collapse in a faint, and be carried off to his bed, where he would remain unconscious for hours.

His accomplices would meanwhile dismember and burn the body. On some occasions, he later confessed, two children were procured, and each obliged to watch the other being raped and tortured.

Gilles was not merely sexually deranged; he was also a reckless spendthrift. He surrounded himself with a retinue of two hundred knights, for whom he provided. He loved to give banquets and fêtes; in 1435, when the city of Orléans celebrated its deliverance by Joan of Arc, Gilles presented a long mystery play about the siege, with enormous sets and a cast of hundreds, playing, of course, the leading role himself. He also provided food and wine for the spectators. Like a Roman emperor he must have felt that he was virtually a god.

In a mere three years he had spent what would now be the equivalent of millions of dollars. Back at Machécoul, he had to sell some of his most valuable estates. His brother was so alarmed that he persuaded the king to issue an interdict forbidding any further sales of land. For a man of Gilles' unbridled temperament, this was an intolerable position. He went into a gloomy and self-pitying retirement.

Years before, when he first went to court, he had borrowed a book on alchemy from an Angevin knight who had been imprisoned for heresy. Alchemy was prohibited by law, and for a man with Gilles' romantic craving for "the forbidden," this must have been an additional incentive to learn more about it. Now, ten years later, with his coffers empty, he realised that black magic might be the answer to his problems.


what is interesting is that the nearby Channel Islands include Jersey,
where the current Haut de la Gerenne scandal is unfolding,
complete with children's remains, which was home to the Beast
of Jersey , child rapist Edward Paisnel, who is thought to have idolized
Gilles de Rais.
Paisnel is said to have claimed to be part of a larger of group
which met to do black magic rituals while wearing masks, and
there are many who have said that Gilles de Rais himself could not
possibly have been solely responsible for all the murders attributed
to him.

Here is his coat of arms:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Blason-gilles-de-rais.gif/180px-Blason-gilles-de-rais.gif


featuring the fleur de lis, which has been linked to the Priory of Sion.

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/priory-tb.JPG

of which Leonardo DaVinci and Isaac Newton were said to be grand masters.
Interesting too that Benjamin Franklin had illuminati contacts in France
and was an associate of the HellFire Club, a thelemic sect linked to
sex magick/black magic rituals, rumored human sacrifice, and ten bodies were unearthed beneath Benjamin Franklin's home in England. The Hellfire Club is said to have been based on the occult rites of the Venetian Black Nobility.
http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/scoutaus/sofa_logo_1.gif

interesting too that child killers Dennis Rader and John Joubert
were both scout leaders, and that Joubert was stationed at Offut Airforce base, home to satanist colonel Michael Aquino, founder
of the Temple of Set,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/TOS_logo.jpg/200px-TOS_logo.jpg
http://www.texasffafoundation.org/Portals/33/Army-Logo.gif
and linked to military mind control experiments.
Joubert bled the bodies with multiple stab wounds.


http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/images/AG854.jpg

The Priory of Sion is said to have founded the Knights Templar, which later became the Knights of Malta, the Knights of St. John, and the Red Cross.
http://www.kultofathena.com/images/thumbs/t_CN926719.jpg
http://www.anglicanmalta.org/jpgs/MalteseCross.jpg
http://www.gwpda.org/medals/ST-JOHN.JPG

http://achristian.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/red-cross-flag.jpg

Interesting that the Red Cross has unlimited access to the blood and bodies produced by artificially engineered wars, while granted access to go behind both enemy lines in theaters of war.

Is there really so much money to be made on war that could not be made in other, constructive ways? Or is it that war provides not only money, but some things that other industries cannot provide:

- fresh young male blood (rich in testosterone, human growth hormone, adrenaline, and endorphins)
- pineal glands, thalamus glands

Could it be that we have a ruling elite literally addicted to blood?
Consider then that a thoroughly parasitic, cannibalistic, and vampiristic elite may be feeding on humanity.

[hunkahunka]

Interesting that the 'blood of a virgin' is so often referenced in Jewish or satanic human sacrifice rituals, but there are many definitions to the word virgin.
With respect to vampirism, blood drinking, or brain eating, the following
definition would be important:

vir·gin [vur-jin]
11. pure; unsullied; undefiled


In other words, you want meat cattle goyim free of disease, clean blood, and the best way to ensure that is to use healthy children/young men.
Now do we know the true reason for no gays in the military?
The Red Cross wants clean meat.

btw, I bet those clean-living Muslims are delicious.

[mountain]

I have always been suspicious about the Red Cross, so any donating blood daily and for what exactly?! Tons of blood went unused after 911 the NEWS have stated before.... Hmmm did it really though?!

[hunkahunka]

Queens Butler Linked to Vampire Cult:


http://www.redicecreations.com/article.php?id=3137

oddly, there is no mention of vampirism in the corresponding article.

[hunkahunka]

another interesting angle to this is that anemia and hemophilia are both
genetic blood disorders linked to being especially prevalent in royal bloodlines.

Could it be linked somehow to vampirism?

Is this the reason that royals require blood?

Or is habitual blood consumption somehow causing these diseases?

[hunkahunka]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread150197/pg5

posted on 20-7-2006 @ 09:14 PM
PORPHYRIA AND VAMPIRES

HI, EXCUSE THE ALL-CAPS, IT'S EASIER ON MY HANDS.
I FOUND THIS SITE WHEN I WORD-SEARCHED 'PORPHYRIA', WHICH I
HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH.

IT IS ALSO CALLED 'THE VAMPIRE DISEASE'.

IT IS BELIEVED THAT THE MYTH OF VAMPIRES STARTED WITH THE
MISCONCEPTION OF PORPHYCICS: UNABLE TO GO OUT INTO SUNLIGHT
OR ONE BURNS; UNABLE TO EAT OR SMELL THE FUMES OF GARLIC,
BECAUSE THE SULPHITES IN IT CAUSES ONE TO BURN;
PALE; ANEMIC; RECEDING GUMS THAT MAKE THE EYE TEETH LOOK LIKE FANGS;
KINDA 'CRAZY-ACTIN'; VERY ATUNE TO THINGS TO THE POINT OF BEING
ALMOST LIKE SOME KIND OF MIND-READER; MYSTIC IN THEIR STRANGE MYSTERY. AS THE DISEASE PROGRESSES AND THE KIDNEYS AND LIVER SLOWLY START TO SHUT DOWN, ONE'S EYES CAN ACTUALLY LOOK YELLOW AND VERY BLOODSHOT.


MOST PORPHYRICS CAN BE TRACED BACK TO A LINEAGE OF GENES, MOSTLY FROM CERTAIN ROYAL LINEAGE (THUS THE 'COUNT' LINK), USUALLY FROM A DUTCH-MIGRATION TO SOUTH AFRICA, AND ALSO OF SLAVIK (CZECH, ROMANIAN, YUGOSLAVIAN, TRANSYLVANIAN) DESCENT.

VLAD THE IMPALER FROM BUCAREST, ROMANIA (WHERE MY GRANDMOTHER
IS FROM) WAS COUNT DRACULA. MY GRANDMOTHER HAS STORIES
OF HIM FROM HER VILLAGE. 'DRACUL' (SHE PRONOUNCES IT 'DRRRRAK-YOOL')
MEANS 'DEVIL'. 'DUTE DE DRACUL' (PRONOUNCED 'DOOT DEE DRRRAK-YOOL')
MEANS 'GO TO HELL', OR AS GRANDMA USED TO SAY: GO TO THE DEVIL.
(SHE WOULD SAY IT, "GO TOOOO DEEEE DEVIL!")

I AM LOOKING, ACTUALLY, FOR ANYONE ON THIS BOARD WHO MIGHT KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL HEREDITARY ENZYME DISEASE PORHYRIA. I HAVE VARIEGATE COPROPORPHYRIA. LATELY THE ATTACKS HAVE BEEN BAD (BLISTERING SKIN, EVEN WHEN I MAKE A RUN FOR IT FROM BUILDING TO THE SHADE OF MY CAR). IT HAS NOW REACHED THE POINT WHERE I CANNOT HAVE MY SKIN EXPOSED TO THE U.V. SUNLIGHT AT ALL, WITHOUT CAUSING SEVERE BURNING AND SEIZURE-LIKE PAIN. ALSO, I AM SO ANEMIC, ALL I CRAVE IS NEAR-RAW RED-MEAT (THE BLOODIER THE BETTER), AS IT HAS THE MOST IRON CONTENT. MY DOCTOR HAS ME ON A TRIPLE DOSE OF IRON TO COMBAT THE ANEMIA, BUT 'ONCE A MONTH' (USUALLY WITH THE FULL MOON), I AM SO PALE AND WEAK I CAN HARDLY FUNCTION.

PORPHYRICS LIFE-EXPECTANCY IS ABOUT 43-63 YEARS OLD. GRANDMA DIED AT 51, FROM KIDNEY SHUTDOWN (UREMIA). OTHER SYMPTOMS INCLUDE COLITIS (WHICH MY SISTER HAS); MISCARRIAGES (WHICH WE BOTH HAVE HAD); AND A VERY STRICT AND LIMITED DIET IN ORDER TO PREVENT PAINFUL ATTACKS.

THE PORPHYRICS ORGANS, ONCE THEY DIE, TEND TO PREVERVE WELL, SO CHANCES ARE, IF THEY WERE DUG UP (EXUMED), THEY WOULD LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE THEY WERE STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE...NOT DECOMPOSED. THIS WOULD HAVE PROBABLY ALSO LED PEOPLE TO THINK THEM 'UNDEAD'.

SAINTS WERE SUPPOSEDLY PORPHYRICS, WHICH IS WHY THEY, TOO, NEVER SEEMED TO 'DECOMPOSE'.

BECAUSE OF THIS WARPED AND HORRID LIFESTYLE, I HAVE LIMITED FRIENDSHIPS (NEXT TO NONE), AND WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NETWORK ON HERE WITH SOME SANE INTELLIGENT FOLKS, NOT GOTHIC VAMPIRE-WANNA-BEES.

I HOPE THAT DOESN'T SOUND CRUEL OR HARSH. IT IS REALLY NO FUN BEING A REAL VAMPIRE. I DON'T WEAR BLACK, DON'T WEAR CAPES, DON'T SPEAK WITH A TRANSYLVANIA ACCENT NOR SLEEP IN A COFFIN. I'M JUST A GIRL WHO USED TO LOVE THE SUN WHEN I WAS A KID AND NOW I CAN'T BE IN IT, AND I CRAVE RED MEAT AND AM PALE AND WEAK ALOT. I ALSO FEAR SOMETIMES FOR MY SANITY, AS ONE OF THE SYMPTOMS IS SCHITZOPHRENIA-LIKE SYMPTOMS, MAINLY DUE TO THE SLOW LACK OF OXYGEN DISTRIBUTION TO THE BRAIN, DUE TO THE OVERLOAD OF PORPHYRINS IN THE BLOOD STREAM.

I HOPE IT'S ALRIGHT TO USE MY REAL NAME,
PLEASE EMAIL ME AT MY EMAIL ADDRESS,

DEKALBPOET@YAHOO.COM

SINCERELY,
JULIE ST.JOHN
DEKALB, IL. U.S.A.

[zero1]

All previous posters on this thread have contributed something useful, and the OP is excellent. Thanks, all.

Everytime I hear "Give blood! It's for a good cause", I shudder.

Blood Banks, anyone? Study blood types and you'll see...

We know the ritual sacrifices go on. It's always linked in a big way to France, notice that? "Merovingians" is our code for lot of them, not only that specific royal-blue bloodline, but creatures we call "super-natural" as well.

Vampires are real, but not what you think; the truth about them is supra-mythological.

The secrets of this world...a thousand volumes could not contain even the briefest summary of them.

[hunkahunka]

All previous posters on this thread have contributed something useful, and the OP is excellent. Thanks, all.

Everytime I hear "Give blood! It's for a good cause", I shudder.

Blood Banks, anyone? Study blood types and you'll see...

We know the ritual sacrifices go on. It's always linked in a big way to France, notice that? "Merovingians" is our code for lot of them, not only that specific royal-blue bloodline, but creatures we call "super-natural" as well.

Vampires are real, but not what you think; the truth about them is supra-mythological.

The secrets of this world...a thousand volumes could not contain even the briefest summary of them.

thank you for the encouraging words. What do you mean by supra-mythological, btw? They are not human? Do you subscribe
to the lizard theory?

[2013]

excellent thread good info you tie it all together so well hunkahunka
i wonder if he was possessed and that the same entities continue to do so to this day regarding the jersey connection

[uchiha]

interesting...
the information you have yet to address is the information that is the most valuable... because there is so little. it is the question...WHY

Why is this blood needed?
For alchemy? Ok. What for?

Vlad the impaler belonged to the warrior monks of the Dragon
his name dracula and father Dracul literally translates into Dragon and/or Son of the Dragon.. this secret monk society was much like and connected to many of the ones that exist today.

As for blood in war...
it is generally accepted among ancient atlantic historians that war is necessary for massive blood sacrifice by the beings which feed knowledge into the Elite

[eternal_spirit]

Maybe they want the fresh dead bodies for genetic experiments, stem cell research cloning etc.

[hunkahunka]

interesting...
the information you have yet to address is the information that is the most valuable... because there is so little. it is the question...WHY

Why is this blood needed?
For alchemy? Ok. What for?



I think there are MYRIAD reasons for the carnage. I think that some powerful people in ancient times actually were hemophiliacs who craved human blood, and over time these people found that they also got high on the endorphin natural opiates and adrenaline in the blood of tortured and/or traumatized people. Children are extremely sensitive to pain, and create gigantic amounts of both natural pain killing opiates, and adrenaline, when tortured. Children would also be prized because they are tender, clean, and their blood also contains large amounts of growth hormone. Did the ancients know of all this? The science? I doubt it . I think that all they knew was that they got a bigger high and a bigger health boost from the blood and flesh of children than from any other type of animal or person they had ever consumed. That would be combined with the thrill of their own adrenaline surge from committing the act itself.
Also, young children have incredible learning capacity, therefore their brains would be nutritious to the elite in boosting the elite's own intelligence.
This, btw, reminds me of the two mass shootings of youths at engineering schools. There were the Ecole Polytechnique shootings of engineering students in Montreal, and the recent shootings of engineering students
at Virginia Tech. Strange coincidence, that. So, someone wanted those spatially gifted brains for something, either to eat those pineal glands, those highly specialized pineal glands, or to do something else with them. Maybe some sort of esoteric research project requiring use of the highly advanced brain properties of young engineers ?
I think as science progresses, humans do come into progressively more physical danger of becoming 'product' for the wealthy.
In ancient times, you might have ended up with this class of hemophiliac blood drinkers/brain eaters who were inexplicably gaining strength and youth, developing incredible memories, youthful vigor, and even euphoria from the narcotic properties of their diet, none of it fully understood in a scientific sense. It would be attributed to 'spirits' compelling these people to inflict pain and terror and death. So you would see this 'alternate' spirituality and mythology begin to develop around the whole practise. The more vile and violent and tortuous the tormentor, the greater his reward.
Anyone remember the mythology of dracula having super human strength,
and the films where he is caught drinking some woman's blood, and when her husband tries to pull him off her neck, he picks him up with one hand and flings him into the wall? Adrenaline , baby. Not just his adrenaline, the adrenaline that he is drinking in from his horrified victim.
Or the scene where the woman screams and he says "hah ha hah, your screams are music to my ears." Why so? Because the more scared she is, the more adrenaline she'll secrete for him.
So you have this class of people that seem to be smarter, more vigorous, etc., that can go about their ruthless business with a dual purpose:

Why just kill social and political enemies when you can eat them too?
Or put it another way. Vice versa, so to speak:
If you need to eat people, why not seek out your social and political enemies
and kill two birds with one stone?

And again , you have sects of these people springing up, gathering lore and glory, and convinced that it is all part of some grand dark design, as they watch their own vitality, wealth, intelligence, accomplishments and evil dwarf that of regular people.

[2013]

Anyone who has read the Anne rice vampire Chronicles will find a lot of symbolic references within her work .The origin of vampires according to her stems from the spirit entering the body of the murdered Pharaoh and his queen thru the multiple stab wounds and animating the corpses ! :eek:the first vampires being akasha (akashic record?) and enkil (enki enlil ?) There is a lot going on in those novels even to the fact that her latest work charts the life of the boy Jesus which as she says isn't at odds with her vampire works as the Christian story of Jesus relates to symbolic blood drinking and consuming of flesh .Very well written novels centered around new Orleans in most of them but worth reading between the lines :DIn fact her work probably desrves a thread of it s own

[pennycat]

My father in law has a rare blood type, its considered old blood. They pay him extra to donate. Sick.

[gordonfreeman]

I always though of Vampires being 'real' in this world. I still think they do exist, strange that they always live in secret from public.

The best symbolic means for vampires is White Wolf's Vampire the Masquerade series.

[chestnutlodge]

My father in law has a rare blood type, its considered old blood. They pay him extra to donate. Sick.

In the UK you are not paid to donate blood. If he was a rare blood group AB which can be given to anyone then they would be keen for him to attend. However you can only give 3-4 times a year.

[jacob sladder]

In the UK you are not paid to donate blood. If he was a rare blood group AB which can be given to anyone then they would be keen for him to attend. However you can only give 3-4 times a year.

Sorry to be pedantic (first post an' all!), but Blood Group 'O' is the only universal blood group that can be given...

JS. :cool:

[chestnutlodge]

Sorry to be pedantic (first post an' all!), but Blood Group 'O' is the only universal blood group that can be given...

JS. :cool:

Apologies thank you for correcting me. Got the Antigens mixed up!!

[2013]

Sorry to be pedantic (first post an' all!), but Blood Group 'O' is the only universal blood group that can be given...

JS. :cool:

Welcome to the forum i loved that movie they made about you:D

[kblood]

Anyone who has read the Anne rice vampire Chronicles will find a lot of symbolic references within her work .The origin of vampires according to her stems from the spirit entering the body of the murdered Pharaoh and his queen thru the multiple stab wounds and animating the corpses ! :eek:the first vampires being akasha (akashic record?) and enkil (enki enlil ?) There is a lot going on in those novels even to the fact that her latest work charts the life of the boy Jesus which as she says isn't at odds with her vampire works as the Christian story of Jesus relates to symbolic blood drinking and consuming of flesh .Very well written novels centered around new Orleans in most of them but worth reading between the lines :DIn fact her work probably desrves a thread of it s own

Indeed :) I have enjoyed many of Anne Rices vampire chronicles. She has also written about witches, and they got into the vampire chronicles as well.

The only two movies I know of that are based on her books is Queen of the Damned and Interview with a Vampire. Both great movies, but Interview with a Vampire seems to have less rough edges than the second one. Better actors, better director... still Queen of the Damned is also a good movie, but for those reasons I havent watched it more than 10 times like Interview with a Vampire :)

[2013]

Indeed :) I have enjoyed many of Anne Rices vampire chronicles. She has also written about witches, and they got into the vampire chronicles as well.

The only two movies I know of that are based on her books is Queen of the Damned and Interview with a Vampire. Both great movies, but Interview with a Vampire seems to have less rough edges than the second one. Better actors, better director... still Queen of the Damned is also a good movie, but for those reasons I havent watched it more than 10 times like Interview with a Vampire :)

I always thought she had insider knowledge when she wrote the books or that it was parlty channeled awre or not .The mayfiar witches again a good series of novles she wrote the mummy a far more realistic muumy story and i wouldnt be suprised if thats what inspireed the recent mummy series with brenadan fraser .As for the chronicles i stopped reading around tales of the body thief maybe read vampire armand .Interestingly River Pheonix was filming the interviewer part of daniel fo rthe movie when he died in johhny depps viper rooms club ,and Aaliyah died not long after filming the queen of the damned just before her appearance in the matrix movie :D again another thread in the making .

[hunkahunka]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kevorkian/aboutk/art/still.html

Check out these paintings by famous assisted suicide doctor
Jack Kevorkian:

We see here Kevorkian's interpretation of the Fleur de Lis:

Very Still Life
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kevorkian/aboutk/art/verystilllife.gif
note white flower on blue aura, evocative of
http://z.about.com/d/privateschool/1/0/l/QB.gif


Also his painting 'War'

Kevorkian's depiction of artificially engineered wars
(masonic 'knights' pulling the strings?):

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kevorkian/aboutk/art/war.gif


Here we have Kevorkian's painting entitled 'Brotherhood'
(doubtless another masonic reference) depicting all
races united in a hidden, demonic 'brotherhood'
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/kevorkian/aboutk/art/brotherhood.gif
(interesting in light of the fact that the traditional neck tie dates back to and is derived from the masonic cable-tow noose ceremony,see:
The Meaning of the Necktie
http://www.absalom.com/mormon/contrib/shortridge/necktie.html )

[hunkahunka]

This defies belief. A CBS television series about vampires faces cancellation.


Fans of CBS' "Moonlight" are so passionate about the vampire drama that they're willing to sacrifice their own blood to keep the series on the air.

Teaming with the Red Cross and online protest rally point YouChoose.net, "Moonlight" viewers are organizing a nationwide blood drive to garner network support for a second season. They claim that more than 3,000 fans have pledged to donate a pint.

"Moonlight" star Alex O'Loughlin has been so moved by fans' efforts that sources close to the series said he is becoming a spokesman for the Red Cross. The spokesmanship position will be announced this week.

complete article:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/content_display/television/news/e3i6e3ee63e14562801b8162e3790f9a0e8

[kblood]

I always thought she had insider knowledge when she wrote the books or that it was parlty channeled awre or not .The mayfiar witches again a good series of novles she wrote the mummy a far more realistic muumy story and i wouldnt be suprised if thats what inspireed the recent mummy series with brenadan fraser .As for the chronicles i stopped reading around tales of the body thief maybe read vampire armand .Interestingly River Pheonix was filming the interviewer part of daniel fo rthe movie when he died in johhny depps viper rooms club ,and Aaliyah died not long after filming the queen of the damned just before her appearance in the matrix movie :D again another thread in the making .

Seen the movie, the Skeleton Key? Anne Rice wrote it, and from what I have found out, she might be possessed by a being. If I am not mistaken she had faith in this being as a source of inspiriation for her books. The being might have moved on though.

After her husband died, I think she had a young boy with blond hair visiting her. I dont know what their relationship was, but I think she had he husband possess him, or the being that possessed her husband.

I also believe she has much of her knowledge about witchcraft first hand, from using it herself. She probably even has a coven. The last I read about her, she has written books about Jesus Christ.

As for real vampires, it seems psychic vampires are not that rare. They feast on energy instead of blood though. I have seen a documentary about an ex-illuminati who said he lived as a vampire for a few years, living only on the blood of willing girls who worshipped him. His story was incredible, and hard to believe. I am sorry to say I dont have the video anymore, but would be nice if I could find it.

Seems more real stories have surfaced, or at least stories of people who claim to have been vampires.

[hunkahunka]

I have seen a documentary about an ex-illuminati who said he lived as a vampire for a few years, living only on the blood of willing girls who worshipped him. His story was incredible, and hard to believe. I am sorry to say I dont have the video anymore, but would be nice if I could find it.
.

His name is Bill Schnoebelen:
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=7672003660947890622

anyone notice the similarity in names here?
Tobias Schneebaum
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/25/obituaries/24schneebaum.html
Schneider's wieners.

Michael Reiner

more on kiddie/gay snuff porn, and elite schools:

related video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJW0eqOXoTo

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/2006/09/28/2006-09-28_li_teacher_in_kidporn_bust__fetish_for_s.html
L.I. teacher in kid-porn bust . 'Fetish for slavery, cannibalism'

Thursday, September 28th 2006, 12:00 AM

A TEACHER AT a Long Island school for the gifted who was busted on kiddie porn charges told authorities he has "a fetish for young boys, slavery and cannibalism." "I like kids. They're fun," Michael Reiner, 46, told Canadian border agents, according to a complaint unsealed yesterday. "I say I'm going to eat them, but I'm only joking. The kids always laugh." But authorities don't think there's anything funny about the child pornography allegedly found on Reiner's home computer or the 1,000 images of scantily clad young boys on his laptop. Then there's his Web site, which invites boys to join his "slave" camp and asks how they feel "about the prospect of being eaten," authorities said. The Web site contains a disclaimer that it's fictional, and Reiner said he doesn't practice cannibalism. Reiner, a teacher for 18 years at the private Long Island School for the Gifted in Huntington Station, came to the attention of investigators last month when Canadian officers at the border in Ontario examined his laptop and discovered the photos of boys. He also showed the officers his Web site, which Reiner explained "was intended to be accessed by people who shared his interest in young boys, slavery and cannibalism," according to the complaint unsealed yesterday in Central Islip Federal Court. Reiner was allowed to enter Canada and return to the U.S. because the laptop photos were not illegal, but he was questioned by U.S. Homeland Security Department agents on his way back in. Reiner consented to a search of his East Meadow home, where agents seized dozens of sexually explicit photos and video clips of children, authorities said. Reiner was ordered held without bail by Magistrate Kathleen Tomlinson. The School for the Gifted enrolls nearly 300 children in grades kindergarten through 9. School lawyer Linda Caputo-Friedman said Reiner had been fired. jmarzulli@nydailynews.com

[kblood]

His name is Bill Schnoebelen:

I was about to say that wasnt the one, but I looked at the vid, and it seems to be him, with a beard :) The vid I saw was a few years old. At least from the 90'ies. When I first heard about the ex-vampire stuff, then I thought it was a different person with a similar story, but seems it is the same person.

Thanks for the link :)

[hunkahunka]

I was about to say that wasnt the one, but I looked at the vid, and it seems to be him, with a beard :) The vid I saw was a few years old. At least from the 90'ies. When I first heard about the ex-vampire stuff, then I thought it was a different person with a similar story, but seems it is the same person.

Thanks for the link :)

the older video is on Google Video too. I've seen it. He gives a speech while standing. It is actually better than this line I've posted.
Go to Google Video and type in Schnoebelen, you should find it.

[hunkahunka]

check out this interview of a real vampire:

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-8948641411851610865&q=illuminati+vampire&total=43&start=20&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=9

[exmicrochipmafia]

I find it peculiar, having blood type O+, the universal donor type, when I first gave blood, the follow up phone calls were so relentless trying to get me to continue to donate regularly, that they actually pissed me off.
I ended up getting a tatoo and told them so and the phone calls stopped completely.
weird eh?

[danielson23uk]

I find it peculiar, having blood type O+, the universal donor type, when I first gave blood, the follow up phone calls were so relentless trying to get me to continue to donate regularly, that they actually pissed me off.
I ended up getting a tatoo and told them so and the phone calls stopped completely.
weird eh?
You had a tattoo in order to stop unwanted phone calls?! Lateral thinking, I like it! I might get one done to keep my boss off my back. He seems to want blood too!
What has hunkahunka's post about a disgusting kiddy fiddler got to do with the topic we're in, namely Illuminati / Secret Societies?

[kblood]

Isnt there an artificial kind of blood that can be used for blood transfusions? It should be like a saltwater mix or something, but cant be used in large quantities, probably because it becomes like the blood in the rest of the body over a few runs through the veins.

I know a few people who have believed themselves to be vampires, or maybe they just were. I am still curious about wether they actually extended their lifespan expectancy. That it was I felt, but it seems to me that becomming such a being destroys most people. Look at the wannabee gothic vampires, which is mostly young people who believe in enjoying life, and pain. Sometimes it goes so far they dont even care about others. But getting the body used to live on the blood or life energy of other living beings, its brings both moral and karma out of balance. The concience of such a being is in danger of becomming depressed, maybe enough to leave this world when they find a way to do so. I am not sure that the few I have met are real vampires, but I am quite certain that they are able to get their mortality back. Being able to live a normal life again. But I would have to find those I know of again and ask them questions I dont really dare ask.

One person who seemed immortal showed me a past long ago, but problem is, can I believe it to be true? So many of my memories already makes it hard to live a normal life, so I dont like getting to know too much at once. As some on this forum says people like me have magical views of the world, that they cant believe because they dont feel their life as magical, or the world around them. But knowing about it and believing it just isnt the same, so I am some times researching it, but mostly to be prepared for the next revelations I might get the next time I dare approach others and share psychic experiences. But then it could also be the reason why I have had these experiences. It could all just be imagination, but what is imagination if our life is a dream?

Thanks for sharing the vids, I will have a look at them again.

[kblood]

You had a tattoo in order to stop unwanted phone calls?! Lateral thinking, I like it! I might get one done to keep my boss off my back. He seems to want blood too!
What has hunkahunka's post about a disgusting kiddy fiddler got to do with the topic we're in, namely Illuminati / Secret Societies?

According to some Illuminati researchers, then raping children is believed to be the key to eternal life. I dont remember the name of the guy who claimed it to be so. It was someone rich who said it as if he did it himself. Maybe it was the OTO guy?

Drinking the blood of others is only one kind of vampirism. The other is said to be the more common kind among the illuminati, if Icke and some other researchers are correct.

[danielson23uk]

The other is said to be the more common kind among the illuminati, if Icke and some other researchers are correct.
I think the last clause of the above quote is pivotal. Everyone on here is absolutely adamant about the blood drinking, child abusing antics of a group whose very existence isn't even proven. Then rather like Ian Hislop's use of the term "allegedly" to fling unsubstantiated shit at people, forumites add the phrase "..if Icke and some other researchers are correct..." as some sort of vindication for making these claims.

[danielson23uk]

Isnt there an artificial kind of blood that can be used for blood transfusions? It should be like a saltwater mix or something, but cant be used in large quantities, probably because it becomes like the blood in the rest of the body over a few runs through the veins.
Sadly not. If there were, why would we need blood donors? I've seen every method available used to save life in the event of what medics call a "fluid challenge". Saline or Hartmans solutions can increase blood volume to help perfuse vital organs but ultimately only the biological attributes of REAL blood can save life. Saline, Hartmans and Haemocell as well as Glucose or any other fluid cannot carry oxygen.

[kblood]

I think the last clause of the above quote is pivotal. Everyone on here is absolutely adamant about the blood drinking, child abusing antics of a group whose very existence isn't even proven. Then rather like Ian Hislop's use of the term "allegedly" to fling unsubstantiated shit at people, forumites add the phrase "..if Icke and some other researchers are correct..." as some sort of vindication for making these claims.

Problem is why would evidence of it be allowed to exist, if what is said is true? If it ever became public, how long would it take to remove?

I believe the definition Icke gives of the Illuminati is not that they necessarily are a "group", but rather a kind of people, of whom most of them do not know they are working together. What we do know is that there certainly is alot of child abuse rings, and some people take it upon themselves to get proof of what these people are doing.

If you really want real proof, you would have to go look for it yourself, but most people here want it served on a plate. There have been good evidence on this forum now and then, but mostly just bits here and there. Many like Icke, try to sum it up, to gather the information and publish it.

So you would prefer they didnt? Do you believe Icke and others who research this doesnt believe it themselves, and only try to make money while making people believe fearytales?

Sadly not. If there were, why would we need blood donors? I've seen every method available used to save life in the event of what medics call a "fluid challenge". Saline or Hartmans solutions can increase blood volume to help perfuse vital organs but ultimately only the biological attributes of REAL blood can save life. Saline, Hartmans and Haemocell as well as Glucose or any other fluid cannot carry oxygen.

Those might be what I have heard about then, something that couldnt replace blood, but could help people suffering from blood loss while they didnt have the blood type they needed available.

I do find it surprising that we cant make artificial blood though. It seems with the technology we have today, it ought to be possible to make a machine that produces more of some persons blood, after adding blood to it. Since it isnt something that stands around at every hospital, I guess it either takes too much energy, or blood is still a mystery. Like most of life is to science.

[mike martin]

Re: Gilles de Rais, aka 'Bluebeard' ( many think the fairytale
Bluebeard was based on the real life of Gilles de Rais)

I do find it surprising that we cant make artificial blood though. It seems with the technology we have today, it ought to be possible to make a machine that produces more of some persons blood, after adding blood to it. Since it isnt something that stands around at every hospital, I guess it either takes too much energy, or blood is still a mystery. Like most of life is to science.

This is a perfect example of what keeps me coming back to this Forum. This one topic has sent me off twice in search of information about things that I didn't know about.

I am now aware of the history of Gilles de Rais although I don't believe all the extra stuff and now I know a little about blood substitutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_substitutes

Mike

[kblood]

This is a perfect example of what keeps me coming back to this Forum. This one topic has sent me off twice in search of information about things that I didn't know about.

I am now aware of the history of Gilles de Rais although I don't believe all the extra stuff and now I know a little about blood substitutes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_substitutes

Mike

That is what I have been thinking ever since I joined :) So much nice information pass through this forum. I try to remember all the good links, but there are just too many. I ought to categorise the threads I am subscribed to, but never get around to doing it.

I am not good at bringing factual knowledge though, since I really dont like quoting and searching for something to prove everything I am saying. It probably annoys alot of people, but more often than not people actually find the links for me if I cant find them myself :)

Thanks for the link, it explains very well what I was sure a paramedic told me about once. It doesnt replace blood but substitutes it when in dire need. Seems like using an empty battery + a charged battery to make a device run without having two charged batteries.

[danielson23uk]

Problem is why would evidence of it be allowed to exist, if what is said is true? If it ever became public, how long would it take to remove?
So the lack of evidence in proving Icke's theories is a mere technicality and yet the same lack of evidence is more than enough to completely condemn a section of society. Ok. As long as you're still being objective!!!!
If you really want real proof, you would have to go look for it yourself, but most people here want it served on a plate. There have been good evidence on this forum now and then, but mostly just bits here and there. Many like Icke, try to sum it up, to gather the information and publish it.

So you would prefer they didnt? Do you believe Icke and others who research this doesnt believe it themselves, and only try to make money while making people believe fearytales?
I don't mind what people write as long as it doesn't implicate or cast moral doubt on innocent people. There are just as many masonic writers doing the same as that of Icke et al. The problem kblood is that people only read one side and not the other. All I ask is some compassion and objectivity rather than having articles about paedophilia linked in the same threads about Freemasons without any tangible link. How is that EVER fair? It's persecution Kblood. Bullying. Throwing shit from behind the safety of the masses. Bullying isn't just playground antics over dinner money Kblood. It is any form of unsubstantiated attack on the innocent for pleasure. Tell me Kblood, what have I or my wife and children ever done to you other than raise funds for the sick and pay my way in society? Yet because I'm a Freemason you don't think twice that my good name should be associated with that of Satanists, Child Abusers and Megalomaniacs across the world. Have you got the courage Kblood to turn to your peers and ask them to either prove their claims or shut the fuck up? I doubt you have and that's ok. But please don't join their witch hunt.
Thanks for the link, it explains very well what I was sure a paramedic told me about once. It doesnt replace blood but substitutes it when in dire need. Seems like using an empty battery + a charged battery to make a device run without having two charged batteries.
The substances paramedics use are just bolus increasers. Like adding water to your Gin. On a major fluid challenge they only buy time until either the fluid challenge is resolved, they get real blood or the patient dies. But the original topic was based on people who drink blood specifically. I don't think they'd settle for saline which is a shame because I'd love to shove a few pints of salt water down them!

[kblood]

You certainly seem to feel like getting attacked alot on this forum danielson23uk. What did this thread have to do with freemasonry in the first place?

I am not sure why you are on such a defensive stance, but I was only on about what I have heard about vampirism. Is the Red Cross a masonic organisation? I dont know. I didnt claim them to be connected to real life vampires, although I guess all bloodbanks are likely to have vampires buying from them if they really live of blood.

I am trying to research freemasons as well, and I am suspicous about them, but I dont hate freemasons or think them or you child molestors. I take all freemasons on this forum as individuals with individual oppinions and beliefs, although they might share religion or club.

Just relax, we are not all that anti mason, although I admit I have implied that masonry might be corrupt. I havent seen enough for me not to consider it true. All organisations of any kind always have some corruption in it, and when it comes to masonry, it seems likely that the corruption is at the top like it happens to be in most systems of power. At the top it is the most tempting and easiest to keep secret.

I am somewhat certain that it was the head of the OTO guy who had said molesting children was the way to gain eternal life. It might have been someone else, I am not sure. South Park even had an episode about it :) Some of those episodes, they actually take something that is real and make it seem like a joke, which makes it all the more funny I think.

[danielson23uk]

You certainly seem to feel like getting attacked alot on this forum danielson23uk. What did this thread have to do with freemasonry in the first place?

I am somewhat certain that it was the head of the OTO guy who had said molesting children was the way to gain eternal life. It might have been someone else, I am not sure. South Park even had an episode about it :) Some of those episodes, they actually take something that is real and make it seem like a joke, which makes it all the more funny I think.

Which was followed by a load of anti masonic artists...... must I really be made to go back and cross reference every vile illustration on this thread showing what masons allegedly get up to?

My gripe isn't with you Kblood and if it came across as such I apologise. Good luck with your researches. But make sure you get the full picture.

[kblood]

Which was followed by a load of anti masonic artists...... must I really be made to go back and cross reference every vile illustration on this thread showing what masons allegedly get up to?

My gripe isn't with you Kblood and if it came across as such I apologise. Good luck with your researches. But make sure you get the full picture.

I didnt remember, although I had read the post. I just didnt guess you were responding to it while replying to what I wrote.

But on that note, Priory de Sion did it exist or not? There is much evidence that it didnt. So I am quite interesting in finding out if it was people who wanted to change the past by adding new "facts" to known history.

[danielson23uk]

I didnt remember, although I had read the post. I just didnt guess you were responding to it while replying to what I wrote.

But on that note, Priory de Sion did it exist or not? There is much evidence that it didnt. So I am quite interesting in finding out if it was people who wanted to change the past by adding new "facts" to known history.
I'm not an expert Kblood but in my opinion, no it was a load of toffee.

[mike martin]

But on that note, Priory de Sion did it exist or not? There is much evidence that it didnt. So I am quite interesting in finding out if it was people who wanted to change the past by adding new "facts" to known history.

Well to be accurate there isn't any evidence that it didn't exist, it's just that the evidence that it did allegedly exist has been proven to be fake, here's some details:

http://www.alpheus.org/html/articles/esoteric_history/richardson1.html
http://priory-of-sion.com/
http://altreligion.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://priory%2Dof%2Dsion.com/posd/posmis.html

Mike

[whatsontv]

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread150197/pg5

posted on 20-7-2006 @ 09:14 PM
PORPHYRIA AND VAMPIRES

HI, EXCUSE THE ALL-CAPS, IT'S EASIER ON MY HANDS.
I FOUND THIS SITE WHEN I WORD-SEARCHED 'PORPHYRIA', WHICH I
HAVE BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH.

IT IS ALSO CALLED 'THE VAMPIRE DISEASE'.

IT IS BELIEVED THAT THE MYTH OF VAMPIRES STARTED WITH THE
MISCONCEPTION OF PORPHYCICS: UNABLE TO GO OUT INTO SUNLIGHT
OR ONE BURNS; UNABLE TO EAT OR SMELL THE FUMES OF GARLIC,
BECAUSE THE SULPHITES IN IT CAUSES ONE TO BURN;
PALE; ANEMIC; RECEDING GUMS THAT MAKE THE EYE TEETH LOOK LIKE FANGS;
KINDA 'CRAZY-ACTIN'; VERY ATUNE TO THINGS TO THE POINT OF BEING
ALMOST LIKE SOME KIND OF MIND-READER; MYSTIC IN THEIR STRANGE MYSTERY. AS THE DISEASE PROGRESSES AND THE KIDNEYS AND LIVER SLOWLY START TO SHUT DOWN, ONE'S EYES CAN ACTUALLY LOOK YELLOW AND VERY BLOODSHOT.


MOST PORPHYRICS CAN BE TRACED BACK TO A LINEAGE OF GENES, MOSTLY FROM CERTAIN ROYAL LINEAGE (THUS THE 'COUNT' LINK), USUALLY FROM A DUTCH-MIGRATION TO SOUTH AFRICA, AND ALSO OF SLAVIK (CZECH, ROMANIAN, YUGOSLAVIAN, TRANSYLVANIAN) DESCENT.

VLAD THE IMPALER FROM BUCAREST, ROMANIA (WHERE MY GRANDMOTHER
IS FROM) WAS COUNT DRACULA. MY GRANDMOTHER HAS STORIES
OF HIM FROM HER VILLAGE. 'DRACUL' (SHE PRONOUNCES IT 'DRRRRAK-YOOL')
MEANS 'DEVIL'. 'DUTE DE DRACUL' (PRONOUNCED 'DOOT DEE DRRRAK-YOOL')
MEANS 'GO TO HELL', OR AS GRANDMA USED TO SAY: GO TO THE DEVIL.
(SHE WOULD SAY IT, "GO TOOOO DEEEE DEVIL!")

I AM LOOKING, ACTUALLY, FOR ANYONE ON THIS BOARD WHO MIGHT KNOW ANYTHING MORE ABOUT THE ACTUAL HEREDITARY ENZYME DISEASE PORHYRIA. I HAVE VARIEGATE COPROPORPHYRIA. LATELY THE ATTACKS HAVE BEEN BAD (BLISTERING SKIN, EVEN WHEN I MAKE A RUN FOR IT FROM BUILDING TO THE SHADE OF MY CAR). IT HAS NOW REACHED THE POINT WHERE I CANNOT HAVE MY SKIN EXPOSED TO THE U.V. SUNLIGHT AT ALL, WITHOUT CAUSING SEVERE BURNING AND SEIZURE-LIKE PAIN. ALSO, I AM SO ANEMIC, ALL I CRAVE IS NEAR-RAW RED-MEAT (THE BLOODIER THE BETTER), AS IT HAS THE MOST IRON CONTENT. MY DOCTOR HAS ME ON A TRIPLE DOSE OF IRON TO COMBAT THE ANEMIA, BUT 'ONCE A MONTH' (USUALLY WITH THE FULL MOON), I AM SO PALE AND WEAK I CAN HARDLY FUNCTION.

PORPHYRICS LIFE-EXPECTANCY IS ABOUT 43-63 YEARS OLD. GRANDMA DIED AT 51, FROM KIDNEY SHUTDOWN (UREMIA). OTHER SYMPTOMS INCLUDE COLITIS (WHICH MY SISTER HAS); MISCARRIAGES (WHICH WE BOTH HAVE HAD); AND A VERY STRICT AND LIMITED DIET IN ORDER TO PREVENT PAINFUL ATTACKS.

THE PORPHYRICS ORGANS, ONCE THEY DIE, TEND TO PREVERVE WELL, SO CHANCES ARE, IF THEY WERE DUG UP (EXUMED), THEY WOULD LOOK VERY MUCH LIKE THEY WERE STILL VERY MUCH ALIVE...NOT DECOMPOSED. THIS WOULD HAVE PROBABLY ALSO LED PEOPLE TO THINK THEM 'UNDEAD'.

SAINTS WERE SUPPOSEDLY PORPHYRICS, WHICH IS WHY THEY, TOO, NEVER SEEMED TO 'DECOMPOSE'.

BECAUSE OF THIS WARPED AND HORRID LIFESTYLE, I HAVE LIMITED FRIENDSHIPS (NEXT TO NONE), AND WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NETWORK ON HERE WITH SOME SANE INTELLIGENT FOLKS, NOT GOTHIC VAMPIRE-WANNA-BEES.

I HOPE THAT DOESN'T SOUND CRUEL OR HARSH. IT IS REALLY NO FUN BEING A REAL VAMPIRE. I DON'T WEAR BLACK, DON'T WEAR CAPES, DON'T SPEAK WITH A TRANSYLVANIA ACCENT NOR SLEEP IN A COFFIN. I'M JUST A GIRL WHO USED TO LOVE THE SUN WHEN I WAS A KID AND NOW I CAN'T BE IN IT, AND I CRAVE RED MEAT AND AM PALE AND WEAK ALOT. I ALSO FEAR SOMETIMES FOR MY SANITY, AS ONE OF THE SYMPTOMS IS SCHITZOPHRENIA-LIKE SYMPTOMS, MAINLY DUE TO THE SLOW LACK OF OXYGEN DISTRIBUTION TO THE BRAIN, DUE TO THE OVERLOAD OF PORPHYRINS IN THE BLOOD STREAM.

I HOPE IT'S ALRIGHT TO USE MY REAL NAME,
PLEASE EMAIL ME AT MY EMAIL ADDRESS,

DEKALBPOET@YAHOO.COM

SINCERELY,
JULIE ST.JOHN
DEKALB, IL. U.S.A.

I'm not sure what to say other than to offer my sympathies for your suffering.
What a terrible affliction.
I hope that you find the respite you need.
Best wishes.

[kblood]

Well to be accurate there isn't any evidence that it didn't exist, it's just that the evidence that it did allegedly exist has been proven to be fake, here's some details:

http://www.alpheus.org/html/articles/esoteric_history/richardson1.html
http://priory-of-sion.com/
http://altreligion.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://priory%2Dof%2Dsion.com/posd/posmis.html

Mike

Yea, I think it was fake as well. I would like it to be true though :) Certainly a great story he made around it, and could not have been easy to put together with the fake evidence he needed to back it up.

[auntienana]

Liquid chlorophyll from plants hold a magnesium ion within their porphyrin rings. This is the equivalent to plant blood. When one ingests liquid chlorophyll the magnesium ion is bumped out and replaced by an iron ion. Take as much as your body can handle. The iron containing porphyrin ring is then used to make heme in hemoglobin.
Iron supplements are not all the same. Iron mined from the earth such as ferrous sulfate is noxious to the body. Only approximately 5% of that iron is utilized. Iron derived from plants are not only more bioavailable but are easily processed by the body. Take vitamin C with iron also because this converts the iron from an unusable ferric form to a usable ferrous ion. Listen to the response of your body to determine its maximum level of need. ie. if you feel cramps or have nightmares then back little by little until they abate.

I'm not a physician but I've had to raise my own iron levels from a zero lab reading and this is what my orthomolecular specialist recommended. The results were extraordinary.

[elysiansix]

Re: Gilles de Rais, aka 'Bluebeard' ( many think the fairytale
Bluebeard was based on the real life of Gilles de Rais)


He was a high-level military commander for the French royals,(the equivalent of France's military chief of staff) and the remains of mutilated and tortured children were found in his castle near the channel islands. Some say there were over 200 bodies found, others say it was over 600.
His castle army was 200 knights strong, and he was found in possession of occult books.




what is interesting is that the nearby Channel Islands include Jersey,
where the current Haut de la Gerenne scandal is unfolding,
complete with children's remains, which was home to the Beast
of Jersey , child rapist Edward Paisnel, who is thought to have idolized
Gilles de Rais.
Paisnel is said to have claimed to be part of a larger of group
which met to do black magic rituals while wearing masks, and
there are many who have said that Gilles de Rais himself could not
possibly have been solely responsible for all the murders attributed
to him.

Here is his coat of arms:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2e/Blason-gilles-de-rais.gif/180px-Blason-gilles-de-rais.gif


featuring the fleur de lis, which has been linked to the Priory of Sion.

http://www.fiu.edu/~mizrachs/priory-tb.JPG

of which Leonardo DaVinci and Isaac Newton were said to be grand masters.
Interesting too that Benjamin Franklin had illuminati contacts in France
and was an associate of the HellFire Club, a thelemic sect linked to
sex magick/black magic rituals, rumored human sacrifice, and ten bodies were unearthed beneath Benjamin Franklin's home in England. The Hellfire Club is said to have been based on the occult rites of the Venetian Black Nobility.
http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/scoutaus/sofa_logo_1.gif

interesting too that child killers Dennis Rader and John Joubert
were both scout leaders, and that Joubert was stationed at Offut Airforce base, home to satanist colonel Michael Aquino, founder
of the Temple of Set,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/94/TOS_logo.jpg/200px-TOS_logo.jpg
http://www.texasffafoundation.org/Portals/33/Army-Logo.gif
and linked to military mind control experiments.
Joubert bled the bodies with multiple stab wounds.


http://www.theknightshop.co.uk/catalog/images/AG854.jpg

The Priory of Sion is said to have founded the Knights Templar, which later became the Knights of Malta, the Knights of St. John, and the Red Cross.
http://www.kultofathena.com/images/thumbs/t_CN926719.jpg
http://www.anglicanmalta.org/jpgs/MalteseCross.jpg
http://www.gwpda.org/medals/ST-JOHN.JPG

http://achristian.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/red-cross-flag.jpg

Interesting that the Red Cross has unlimited access to the blood and bodies produced by artificially engineered wars, while granted access to go behind both enemy lines in theaters of war.

Is there really so much money to be made on war that could not be made in other, constructive ways? Or is it that war provides not only money, but some things that other industries cannot provide:

- fresh young male blood (rich in testosterone, human growth hormone, adrenaline, and endorphins)
- pineal glands, thalamus glands

Could it be that we have a ruling elite literally addicted to blood?
Consider then that a thoroughly parasitic, cannibalistic, and vampiristic elite may be feeding on humanity.


+!%$£*YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYES --------1000000000 TIMES YES)(£)(*$&£(^£(%&£&$£(*&$)(*&%(*&£$
Bingo as they say in certain circles.
And all these satanist pretending to be GOD personified.

[2013]

The last book she wrote concenring hte life of the young jesus could be see nin one way to atone for her witchcraft vampire series but also having insider knowledge ,if she does new orleans voodoo etc thne it could just be a further piece of the puzzle .The early christian sects where blooddrinkers i read somewhere as in this is my blood drink it in memory of me .makes you wonder as its all blood cult stuff all linked ? :D
Seen the movie, the Skeleton Key? Anne Rice wrote it, and from what I have found out, she might be possessed by a being. If I am not mistaken she had faith in this being as a source of inspiriation for her books. The being might have moved on though.

After her husband died, I think she had a young boy with blond hair visiting her. I dont know what their relationship was, but I think she had he husband possess him, or the being that possessed her husband.

I also believe she has much of her knowledge about witchcraft first hand, from using it herself. She probably even has a coven. The last I read about her, she has written books about Jesus Christ.As for real vampires, it seems psychic vampires are not that rare. They feast on energy instead of blood though. I have seen a documentary about an ex-illuminati who said he lived as a vampire for a few years, living only on the blood of willing girls who worshipped him. His story was incredible, and hard to believe. I am sorry to say I dont have the video anymore, but would be nice if I could find it.

Seems more real stories have surfaced, or at least stories of people who claim to have been vampires.

[dmessick]

That's why I don't give blood.

[turquoisefyre]

...she has written books about Jesus Christ.



told from Jesus' point of view, none the less.

[darketernal]

So the lack of evidence in proving Icke's theories is a mere technicality and yet the same lack of evidence is more than enough to completely condemn a section of society. Ok. As long as you're still being objective!!!!



Making an objective statement here. I've never seen David Icke condemn anyone. He implies that loving the people and beings doing this weakens their power, and that hatred and anger only feed their energy.

[mike martin]

Yea, I think it was fake as well. I would like it to be true though :) Certainly a great story he made around it, and could not have been easy to put together with the fake evidence he needed to back it up.

sorry I missed this before.

It's not true that he did a lot of work to make the book. When I read it I couldn't help feeling that I'd read it before and when I checked in my Library I found that he had just copied the substance from "The Messianic Legacy"
by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln. That was why Baigent and Leigh took him to Court for infringement of copyright when the film hit the news.

Mike

[north pole resident]

Interesting that the Red Cross has unlimited access to the blood and bodies produced by artificially engineered wars, while granted access to go behind both enemy lines in theaters of war.

Is there really so much money to be made on war that could not be made in other, constructive ways? Or is it that war provides not only money, but some things that other industries cannot provide:

- fresh young male blood (rich in testosterone, human growth hormone, adrenaline, and endorphins)
- pineal glands, thalamus glands

Could it be that we have a ruling elite literally addicted to blood?
Consider then that a thoroughly parasitic, cannibalistic, and vampiristic elite may be feeding on humanity.

hunkahunka, did you try to send this info to the Red Cross - http://www.redcross.org ?

[razed1]

interesting thread,

im not surprised that these elites would set up a organization where they can harvest blood, and keep in stock for their needs

i personally would never give blood to red cross

for the question of WHY??

like they say

"you are what you eat"

[kblood]

Yes, you are what you eat :) Sometimes what you eat just shows what you really are.

If someone drinks blood, it is probably because that person have some idea that it actually brings good to the body. It is of course bad karma though.

Still some people need blood transfusions to live. That is one of the main reasons we have blood banks and the red cross.

We can only try to have faith in what they are doing is good. Sometimes it might not turn out good in the end, but at least that is the real and true purpose of it.

Find it hard to believe? Then ask the people that work there. Havent lives been saved through what they are doing? I would think so. Some of them use the knowledge they gather to experiment and learn new secrets about what life is really about.

Maybe those secrets makes for a better or a worse future. The knowledge will be used in ways we can probably predict though. Scientists are always tempted by the knowledge they get, and have to use a moral compass.

The technology they develop will be used for good in the future and the past, so please respect them and dont question their every decision. Unless you know that the decision will bring about new... diseases and monstrosities.

[razed1]

Yes, you are what you eat :) Sometimes what you eat just shows what you really are.

If someone drinks blood, it is probably because that person have some idea that it actually brings good to the body. It is of course bad karma though.

probably is bad karma, but it seems these ppl do benefit from ingesting the blood energies from victims


Still some people need blood transfusions to live. That is one of the main reasons we have blood banks and the red cross.

probabaly true, but these incidents should be handled on case by case basis, ppl have immediate family who can donate blood if the need arises

but i dont think that these huge blood "farms"/"banks" are needed, more than likely the majority of this blood is either used for dna monitoring, genetics manipulation, and their rituals

i dont think these red cross blood banks are a good idea at all


We can only try to have faith in what they are doing is good. Sometimes it might not turn out good in the end, but at least that is the real and true purpose of it.

i think this "good faith" is probably the main reason that EVIL has been able to take over our intitutions

one of the ways we have been brainwashed is to fight this evil on earth with unaffective ways

we think we are fighting them, while really we dont have an affect on them

we shoudl be just as cunning as these elites,



Find it hard to believe? Then ask the people that work there. Havent lives been saved through what they are doing? I would think so. Some of them use the knowledge they gather to experiment and learn new secrets about what life is really about.

Maybe those secrets makes for a better or a worse future. The knowledge will be used in ways we can probably predict though. Scientists are always tempted by the knowledge they get, and have to use a moral compass.

The technology they develop will be used for good in the future and the past, so please respect them and dont question their every decision. Unless you know that the decision will bring about new... diseases and monstrosities.

you have to understand that all these secrets of life and the world HAVE been figured out along time ago, this evil cancer on earth (these elites) have spent the last few thousand years making sure they eradicate all TRUE gnosis on earth and replace it with THEIR OWN version of things,

so i dont think this blood banks, and their western medicine, technology, genome projects and all those things will lead to any benefit for US, the human stock, they will only serve the elites in finding out more ways to control us, more ways to supress our natural instincts, more chemtrail weapons, more undetectable poisons in our water/food, more genetically modified crops,

just plain hell on earth, is the focus of these ppl and their institutions

[hunkahunka]

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I have been finding out more interesting information on homosexual murderer and author William S. Burroughs, who often wrote of cannibalism and sadism in his journals.

Burroughs was born to a prosperous upper middle class family with connections to the Rockefellers.
At 15 he was sent to a Masonic boarding school:
The school song:
'Far away, and high on the mason's crest, here's the life that all of us love the best.' The compound was later morphed into a nuclear bomb research facility because it was on the masonically significant 33rd parallel. The Los Alamos Ranch School was
integrated with the Boy Scouts. Boys in the school belonged to Los Alamos Troop 22, the first mounted scout troop in the country.
Information of the masonic origins of the Boy Scouts of America:
http://www.timboucher.com/journal/2006/03/21/the-boy-scout-freemason-connection/

short documentary on boyscout William Burrough's CIA activities:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQL3FvWGx2g

http://www.fotw.net/images/s/scout.gif
World Organization of the Scouting Movement
http://www.netpages.free-online.co.uk/scoutaus/sofa_logo_1.gif
Boy Scouts
This reminded me of homosexual vampire John Joubert , who repeatedly stabbed and bit young boys. Teeth marks were found all over the bodies
with extensive loss of blood.
There are some notable similarities between
Joubert and Burroughs. Both were boyscouts, both had childhood identity
crises about homosexuality (Joubert at the age of 12 , and Burroughs at the age of 15. Both have said that they were gay youths, afraid of rejection by peers.) Joubert joined the air force, and was stationed at Offut Air Force Base, which has been linked to Colonel Michael Aquino and the Temple of Set. One of Joubert's victims was found near the base, and was the son of a former airman from the base.

Joubert's parents split up when he was just 6 years old. That means he would have been more vulnerable to some sort of programming experiment at an early age.

Burroughs is known to have once lived and worked at a brothel in Tangiers
that prostituted Moroccan boys to male tourists, and wrote journals about these boys involving cannibalism, homosexuality, and 'extermination' .
His journals were worked into fictional stories by his handlers, and later became the novel 'Naked Lunch', which included child murder and acts of pedophilia as parts of its subject matter, and a central character who was under the control of a 'Dr. Benway', caught up in narcotics trafficking, black market smuggling, drug addiction and cannibalism.

[hunkahunka]

the following very informative site identifies Los Alamos as one of the noted
locations for near-death trauma mind programming:

http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=90100

Prominent Boy Scout official pleads guilty to child porn
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7326932

Alex Jones interviews Jim Rothstein - Elite Prostitution & Pedophile Rings
Jim Rothstein is a retired New York City Detective. He investigated numerous cases of child sex slave rings which in many cases led right up to leading political figures. Paul Joseph Watson 'rides shotgun' to cover the rest of the news.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/180305rothstein.htm

[razed1]

i wonder how many examples there are of pedophilia and homosexual activity in these rituals performed by the elitists

[hunkahunka]

'Scouts' is literally a prep school for future military career, it is a means
of scouting/recruiting/conditioning children for military training from an
early age.

Boy Scouts is a worldwide organization, and is an integral part of the war machine.

http://www.heathenworld.com/swastika/Thumbnails/scouts.gif
Boy Scout Badge of Fellowship (from the 1920s)

http://heathenworld.com/swastika/Images/flag-nazi2.jpg
Maltese cross with Swastika

http://fp1.centurytel.net/kofc9892/images/WWI%20Knights%20of%20Columbus_jpg.jpg
National Catholic War Council Knights of Columbus


Knights of Columbus is a big sponsor of the Boy Scouts of America,
and their logo contains a stylized maltese cross behind a shield.
http://www.boernetroop18.com/img/kofc_logo_color.jpg

as does the logo for St. John Ambulance:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/1843/logo300.gif

As does the Knights of St. John logo

http://www.davidwball.com/images/wignacourt%20Small%20Web%20view.jpg

What a frightening picture emerges:
What you have essentially is a secret society war machine, behind the scenes, that is recruiting and militarizing children, later drafting them into unnecessary wars, and then harvesting the bodies through St. John Ambulance and the Red Cross, and all of the organizations closely affiliated as is apparent even in their symbology.

[hunkahunka]

Oh my god, this is just getting sicker and scarier the more I see this:

Can there be any doubt that SOMEONE NEEDS BLOOD< AND A LOT OF IT?
police are now going to be forcibly extracting blood from people!
& I am not joking when I say that I suspect that they have another use for
all this blood that they are not telling us about!

http://www.infowars.com/?p=3073

Opinion: Austin, It’s Time to Rise Up

P.O.T.U.S | July 3, 2008

It’s time to get mad and put the Austin Police Department in their place.

They are now planning to pull you over, and if they suspect you’ve been drinking, the police will stick a needle in your arm, and take your blood without a warrant. You cannot refuse, and they will do this by force. If you resist, you will be tasered and held down against your will while they remove a “sample”.

“My intent in the future is to make it so there is no such thing as a refusal. You can refuse all you want, but we are going to aggressively seek search warrants,” said Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo, in an interview with KXAN, a local city television station. (See the original article & video report here: http://www.kxan.com/global/story.asp?s=8581029&rnd=552.5117347010923 )

That’s right– the so-called “peace officer”, in charge of serving the public trust and upholding the law and Constitution is going to be pinning you to the ground with his knee, dutifully, while driving a needle into you.

This “No Refusal” DWI policy has already been implemented and field tested in San Antonio (see video below).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2PZ9qDLLv70

PLEASE TAKE five minutes out of your life to voice your disapproval of this coming policy to these Police authorities and our elected city officials. If you’ve never voiced a complaint before about anything, trust me, it is LEGAL, you will not get in any trouble. In fact, it’s rewarding– You will feel better about yourself.

Tell these people what you think, let them know that instead of spending resources and manpower on violating human rights, the police department should get around to more important issues– for example, making sure the Governor’s mansion is not set on fire and nearly burned to the ground.

Contact any and/or all of the following:

Austin Police Chief Acevado’s Office: 512-974-5030

Austin Police Community Liason Office: 512-974-4700

E-mail the Austin Police Department: apd3@ci.austin.tx.us

Contact the Austin City Council:
http://www.ci.austin.tx.us/council/contacts.htm

This policy, which violates basic human rights and the Constitution, is being handed down from the Federal government, not the State of Texas. And it’s just the beginning. Today it’s your blood, tomorrow the rest of your dignity follows, and finally, you realize you basically have the rights of a slave. Which are listed below.

Think about it: The NAZI’s were not even near this level of police invasion. All they asked for were your “papers”. These newly trained police officers, the majority of which will be combat-hardened Iraq war veterans, are going to be demanding your blood.

[amethyst]

Vampire Show

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2045/twioptez4.jpg

[soulja]

http://www.aspeninstitute.org/atf/cf/%7BDEB6F227-659B-4EC8-8F84-8DF23CA704F5%7D/2006Habsburg.Gyorgy.web.jpg

György Habsburg, President, Hungarian Red Cross, Budapest, Hungary. György Habsburg is president of the Hungarian Red Cross, Hungary’s largest organization, in addition to serving as an ambassador at large for the Hungarian Prime Ministers office. He is also Head of the Office of Dr. Otto von Habsburg, building up the Pan European Movement, the most important Hungarian Movement for European Integration, and acts as a Senator of the Technical University of Budapest. From 1993-97 György was the director of MTM Communications, the largest film producer and distributor company of Central Europe. During this time he was co-author of the project paper for private television in Central Europe, which led to the Hungarian Media Law and later MTM won the first license for private television in Hungary. György was previously a producer of religious and political documentaries with Markus Film in Munich and served as a free-lance journalist for several European newspapers. He is the president of the Supervisory Board of the Messer Group of Central Europe, managing director of EUTOP Budapest, and a member of the International Council of the Instituto de Empresa. György has also the diploma from the Sociedad Cervantina in Madrid in 1985 and has studied at the University of Innsbruck, Austria, and Ludwig-Maximilian University, Munich. He and his wife and three children live in Soskut, Hungary.
http://www.aspeninstitute.org/site/c.huLWJeMRKpH/b.1777845/k.76AF/2006_Great_Xpectations_Class.htm

[hunkahunka]

Kiefer Sutherland played in a movie with Corey Feldman and River Phoenix called 'Stand By Me', and then with Corey Feldman in a film called 'The Lost Boys', about teen vampires, by American film director, screenwriter and producer Joel Schumacher (another Jewish German name)

Joel Schumacher Filmography

* The Incredible Shrinking Woman (1981)
* D.C. Cab (a.k.a. Street Fleet) (1983)
* St. Elmo's Fire (1985)
* The Lost Boys (1987)
* Cousins (1989)
* Flatliners (1990)
* Dying Young (1991)
* Falling Down (1993)
* The Client (1994)
* Batman Forever (1995)
* A Time to Kill (1996)
* Batman & Robin (1997)
* 8mm (1999)
* Flawless (1999)
* Tigerland (2000)
* Bad Company (2002)
* Phone Booth (2003)
* Veronica Guerin (2003)
* Andrew Lloyd Webber's The Phantom of the Opera (2004)
* The Number 23 (2007)
* Creek (2008)

notice the number of films he's done referencing masks, secret police (Batman), snuff films, vampirism, teens , etc.
Joel Schumacher also wrote the screenplay for this 1978 film:

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/coverv/43/135643.jpg

Directed by Sidney Lumet
Produced by Rob Cohen
Written by Joel Schumacher
William F. Brown (original 1975 musical)
Starring Diana Ross
Michael Jackson
Nipsey Russell
Ted Ross
Mabel King
Theresa Merritt
Thelma Carpenter
Lena Horne
Richard Pryor

[hunkahunka]

http://www.cremationofcare.com/images/icons/kkk_logo.PNG
KKK logo

http://www.doi.gov.mt/EN/state/symbols/maltflag.jpg
National flag of Malta

http://www.doi.gov.mt/EN/state/symbols/merchant.jpg
Merchant flag of Malta

http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/time-zone/europe/switzerland/images/swiss-flag.jpg
Swiss flag

http://aycu11.webshots.com/image/42010/2001181123243210104_rs.jpg


http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1142/623788189_ef961ac2d1.jpg
KKK Imperial Wizard Gordon Young

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9d/The-wiz-1978.jpg
mirror reflection

Bohemian Grove mirror reflection:
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False%20Religions/Wicca%20&%20Witchcraft/cremation_of_care2.jpg
The Wiz?

[soulja]

interesting link i've come across
http://www.illuminati-news.com/red-cross.htm

[zero1]

Vampire Show

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/2045/twioptez4.jpg

Notice, in the picture, the Apple she is holding - this is of course an allusion to Adam and Eve in the Garden, and the Tree of knowlege; suggesting Adam and Eve as immortals were vampires...

Not true, but in the time of the "Adam" and "Eve" stage of humanity, there were Vampires created by mixing human DNA with alien, animal and demon blood. Eve's son Cain was the first Vampire, and he killed his brother Abel by biting his neck (in the original story) and drinking his blood.

The "Jews" are descendents of Vampires humanized during the experiments of Sumerian times, and their racial identity and religion is vampiric.

Vampire "spirituality", for want of a better word for it, is the essence of Abrahamic religion - it's about Blood, the Grail, and thus by extension life-force and, in modern times, money. It's all wordly, about immortality, defying death and living a sumptuous life in the material existence for-ever.

The Red Cross is in existence today to subsidize the hidden covens and sects of Vampires around the world with human blood in steady supply.

[kblood]

If only these beings werent so shy of the light, they would be easier to find.

Then again, if I started looking, then it would probably increase the chances of finding some.

I wouldnt be surprised if real vampires exists. There more than a few ways to feed of the life of other beings. We could let nature nourish us by drinking its water and eating its fruits or vegetables, we could eat animals or as the vampire legends say, drink blood or drain lifeforce.

It seems impossible for us to get out of the cycle of life. We cannot live on air and water alone. Unless maybe you are a monk or someone fully in sync with our planet and sharing its life essence. I guess that is what the fountain of youth and immortality might do, or the philosophers stone in its true form, although it most likely is spiritual.

Even if vampiric beings exist, that lives of blood or life essence, then I believe that they cant really do so without the "food" allowing it. Otherwise their cover is blown and they are quite weak beings. Their ying and yang not exactly in balance at all.

At least that is what I think :)

[amethyst]

Notice, in the picture, the Apple she is holding - this is of course an allusion to Adam and Eve in the Garden, and the Tree of knowlege; suggesting Adam and Eve as immortals were vampires...

Not true, but in the time of the "Adam" and "Eve" stage of humanity, there were Vampires created by mixing human DNA with alien, animal and demon blood. Eve's son Cain was the first Vampire, and he killed his brother Abel by biting his neck (in the original story) and drinking his blood.

The "Jews" are descendents of Vampires humanized during the experiments of Sumerian times, and their racial identity and religion is vampiric.

Vampire "spirituality", for want of a better word for it, is the essence of Abrahamic religion - it's about Blood, the Grail, and thus by extension life-force and, in modern times, money. It's all wordly, about immortality, defying death and living a sumptuous life in the material existence for-ever.

The Red Cross is in existence today to subsidize the hidden covens and sects of Vampires around the world with human blood in steady supply.

And Satan is Cain's father. That was the "real sin' in the garden of Eden. Not the eating of an "apple", but being seduced and having sexual relations with Satan. To eat: euphemism for sex.

Eve was "beguiled". To beguile: to influence by trickery, flattery, mislead; delude,to charm.

Satan seduced Eve. Eve produced Cain. Cain killed Able, his half brother.

Makes sense he liked blood.

[silver_eyes]

And Satan is Cain's father. That was the "real sin' in the garden of Eden. Not the eating of an "apple", but being seduced and having sexual relations with Satan. To eat: euphemism for sex.

Eve was "beguiled". To beguile: to influence by trickery, flattery, mislead; delude,to charm.

Satan seduced Eve. Eve produced Cain. Cain killed Able, his half brother.

Makes sense he liked blood.

amethyst do you think aliens exist or play any involvement with the illuminatti?

[amethyst]

amethyst do you think aliens exist or play any involvement with the illuminatti?

Yes. Of course. There's a reason why they like "blood" so much in their rituals.

What we know as "aliens" are the "fallen angels' (who mated with human women mentioned in book of Genesis 6:4, Numbers 13:33) they were called the "annunaki". The reptilians are their "offspring"

A lot of them are living in the middle of the earth until they will be released in droves (see book of Revelation chapter 9)

"Goliath" as in the familiar story of "David and Goliath", was an offspring descendant of the nephilim, as he was very large. He probably had a fondness for blood too.

We have "offspring", who as Icke has written about, the reptilians,whom are living among us today.

[soulja]

my theory: they need they occult properties of blood to attract these demonic beings. of course all the symbols, atmosphere, some occult nonsense chanting and so on is part of it aswell but the blood is the main component.

once they attracted those beings they are possessed by them or at least attached to them. that might be the reason why they feel the urge to drink blood regularly, to feed the inner/attached demon.

it's also like a drug, the adrenaline in the blood and good knows whatelse could be addictive. some say Al Gore is addicted to blood.

[amethyst]

my theory: they need they occult properties of blood to attract these demonic beings. of course all the symbols, atmosphere, some occult nonsense chanting and so on is part of it aswell but the blood is the main component.

once they attracted those beings they are possessed by them or at least attached to them. that might be the reason why they feel the urge to drink blood regularly, to feed the inner/attached demon.

it's also like a drug, the adrenaline in the blood and good knows whatelse could be addictive. some say Al Gore is addicted to blood.

That's a good theory Soulja :D

[charles d ward]

A lot of them are living in the middle of the earth until they will be released in droves (see book of Revelation chapter 9)

"Goliath" as in the familiar story of "David and Goliath", was an offspring descendant of the nephilim, as he was very large. He probably had a fondness for blood too.


Arent they interdimensional? Is the middle of the earth (middle earth) another dimension or are they living in our dimension (3d) just beneath our feet? Can we reach the secret network below and the tunnels of the "gods" by astral projection or do we have to buy ourselves a bloody shovel and dig? Enlighten me Amethyst.

Was Goliath an offspring of the nephilim? Source please. Are the so called giants in norse mythology the same beings as the Nephelim? The cyclops in greek mythology? :confused:

[amethyst]

Arent they interdimensional? Is the middle of the earth (middle earth) another dimension or are they living in our dimension (3d) just beneath our feet? Can we reach the secret network below and the tunnels of the "gods" by astral projection or do we have to buy ourselves a bloody shovel and dig? Enlighten me Amethyst.

Was Goliath an offspring of the nephilim? Source please. Are the so called giants in norse mythology the same beings as the Nephelim? The cyclops in greek mythology? :confused:

Yes. They are interdimentional.

Nephilm is translated "giants".

Here's a link:

http://bibleprobe.com/nephilim.htm


The David and Goliath story is mentioned in the Bible of course. 1st Samuel, chapter 17.

Yes. I think the giants in Norse mythology could very well have been pointing to the nephilim.

I think they (extraterrestrial beings, aka; fallen angelic beings) use portals to go back and forth with. But the biggie destroying angelic beings won't be released until a specific time.

edit: also, possibly "worm holes" and such.

I just posted an article in the news section about this.

[decode reality]

Bump....see link for contemporary relevance:

http://www.redcross.org.uk/donatesection.asp?id=95266

[whybeherenow]

The human stomach can't digest human blood - too much iron.

Red Cross - nothing they are involved in would surprise me at all.

Does something feed off fear and blood letting at an etheric level? I don't know.

The whole vampire things seems to have some kind or erotic appeal to many people. Weird.

[decim]

DNA contains ancestral experiential memories.

The Human Genome, 'it' Projects.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVaHG_QMvNk

[enga]

The human stomach can't digest human blood - too much iron.

Red Cross - nothing they are involved in would surprise me at all.

Does something feed off fear and blood letting at an etheric level? I don't know.

The whole vampire things seems to have some kind or erotic appeal to many people. Weird.

I heard reptilians feast on sexual energy. If vampires are akin to reps then maybe it is the the reason that so much sexual imagery is associated with vampirism.

[caz111]

With respect to the queen's butler and his odd connections, the following indicates some other odd connections with respect to the Royal Society of the Arts (RSA).

WHen bodies were found under Benjamin Franklin;s house it was said that those responsible for the bodies buried under the house came from the RSA.

The RSA still has an obssessive interest in children, but this time their influence extends to schools across the UK.

The video 'Ark and the Adam's Family' indicates who some of these corporations and charities are, how they are involved with children, and where they network.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyqsOBkLWh0